Tom, I think these places were geared more to the single man than married men, but am sure none were turned away - or very few were turned away - The reason behind my thoughts are due to stories that have been told to me by great aunts - My gg grandmother happened to earn her living in this profession in Iowa - I wondered why my great grandfather changed his last name - but after finding some letters from my great aunt Myrtle to my grandfather and being told stories by my great aunt Helen - I kind of gathered that he didn't want anyone to know who his mother was. Side story on the same subject: i was helping a lady in the library on Monday hunt for an obituary from the 1800's. While I was paging through 1897 microfilm i found an article about a 26 year old man who was charged and convicted of moral depravity. it seems he convinced a young woman from a local brothel to come home and live with him and he was sentenced to a year in jail. It did not say if she was charged with anything but indicated that she was of questionable moral background. Dianne In a message dated 3/30/2011 11:55:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hello - Its doubtful that any Polish men would know anything about such a subject. A 14 hour workday on the farm leaves little time indeed for anything else. What with daily Mass in the AM and Bible Study in the PM, there's barely enough time to spend an hour or two with the wife over dinner. Private prayer has to be allotted time of course along with their visiting the hospital sick. Daily rosaries are said when they can squeeze a few minutes here and there. It was a tough life. Tom On Mar 29, 2011, at 3:48 PM, "Sherri Brakenhoff" <[email protected]> wrote: > Very interesting! No, I'd never heard of "Old Hats". I'll be on the lookout > for it now, though ;>) > > Sherri Brakenhoff - [email protected] > NEGenWeb, Platte Co Coordinator - > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/ > NEGenWeb, Colfax Co Coordinator - > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/colfax/ > Sherri's Family Findings - > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sherri/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Columbus Journal link > > Sherri - Am wondering if you have run across a business named "Old Hat's" > in your quest to find business names and locations. This business was > operating in Columbus in the 1880's - I am sure it was not advertised in any > > paper, nor would it have appeared in any business listing for the time, nor > was it probably discussed in polite society. It was established to take > care of men's immediate physical needs while searching for a > wife/homemaker. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello - Its doubtful that any Polish men would know anything about such a subject. A 14 hour workday on the farm leaves little time indeed for anything else. What with daily Mass in the AM and Bible Study in the PM, there's barely enough time to spend an hour or two with the wife over dinner. Private prayer has to be allotted time of course along with their visiting the hospital sick. Daily rosaries are said when they can squeeze a few minutes here and there. It was a tough life. Tom On Mar 29, 2011, at 3:48 PM, "Sherri Brakenhoff" <[email protected]> wrote: > Very interesting! No, I'd never heard of "Old Hats". I'll be on the lookout > for it now, though ;>) > > Sherri Brakenhoff - [email protected] > NEGenWeb, Platte Co Coordinator - > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/ > NEGenWeb, Colfax Co Coordinator - > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/colfax/ > Sherri's Family Findings - > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sherri/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Columbus Journal link > > Sherri - Am wondering if you have run across a business named "Old Hat's" > in your quest to find business names and locations. This business was > operating in Columbus in the 1880's - I am sure it was not advertised in any > > paper, nor would it have appeared in any business listing for the time, nor > was it probably discussed in polite society. It was established to take > care of men's immediate physical needs while searching for a > wife/homemaker.

Megan, Walenty translates as Valentine I am pretty sure. I remember a Spies family in my younger days, so some must have been around in Columbus. Check out this photo from our Platte site. The line that says Third Ward School. (I remember Kippy Soulliere too who is on it) http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/photo.html Just a quick check of Ancestry didn't show any Walenty, but plenty about Valentine Spies........not in Nebraska tho. What time period are you talking about anyway? KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 3000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d93d8946965b442463st04duc

Happy upcoming LENT to everyone - The Polish first name WALENTY, sometimes WALENTYNE, WALENTIN, [female WALENTYNA] actually does not have a direct English counterpart, rather, the Polish versions were formed FROM the Latin name VALENTINUS. English speaking countries adopted the Latin version to arrive at VALENTINE, so then by circular association, we accept VALENTINE as the English version of the Polish WALENTY. The root word is the Latin "valens" which means "mighty, potent, healthy" OR from "Valens" which means an "inhabitant of the ancient province of Valentia". Tom On Mar 31, 2011, at 1:26 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Megan, Walenty translates as Valentine I am pretty sure. I remember a Spies family in my younger days, so some must have been around in Columbus. > > Check out this photo from our Platte site. The line that says Third Ward School. (I remember Kippy Soulliere too who is on it) > " > " http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/photo.html > > Just a quick check of Ancestry didn't show any Walenty, but plenty about Valentine Spies........not in Nebraska tho. > > Rmed FROMWhat time period are you talking about anyway? Kathy

Hi Everybody! Ive finally made some headway today. I find my greatgrandfather Maurice Langan was born 1836 in Shanagolden Ireland. and his father, my great great grandfather's name was John! Still don't know his mother's name and it was just a fluke that I found him, but Im so excited! AND, Ive been looking for record of Catherine Langan's death and found it! But now that Ive found it I don't know how to proceed. What I have is "Ireland Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958" It says she was born about 1859, but she was christened June 10, 1858 so that's close. She died 1864 and it says Rathkeale. . I know this isn't Nebraska related and Im sorry but Im hoping someone has experience with familysearch.org and can tell me how to view this. Im trying to find the actual town they had lived in and the cemetery. It would appear at least at the time of Catherines death they lived in Rathkeale. from familysearch.org Catherine Langan film # 101582 Volume 5 Page 449 Digital Folder # 4200214 Image # 00147 Thanks for any suggestions on this. Cris --

Does anyone know of the Spies family? Walenty Spies was godfather to one of my ancestors, but I know nothing of him. What would Walenty translate to? Thank you! Megan

DIANNE.............after reading Sherri's post, I re-read yours about the Old Hat topic and thought that it might have accounted for some of the arrests which are posted on the Platte site in the Law and Order section.lol Some of the ladies may have qualified? KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon&#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d92776ab697b4cd93fst01duc

I am sure a lot of them were probably arrested and charged and returned to their trade as soon as they were released - lol - Dianne In a message dated 3/29/2011 5:21:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: DIANNE.............after reading Sherri's post, I re-read yours about the Old Hat topic and thought that it might have accounted for some of the arrests which are posted on the Platte site in the Law and Order section.lol Some of the ladies may have qualified? KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon&#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d92776ab697b4cd93fst01duc ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Very interesting! No, I'd never heard of "Old Hats". I'll be on the lookout for it now, though ;>) Sherri Brakenhoff - [email protected] NEGenWeb, Platte Co Coordinator - http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/ NEGenWeb, Colfax Co Coordinator - http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/colfax/ Sherri's Family Findings - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sherri/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Columbus Journal link Sherri - Am wondering if you have run across a business named "Old Hat's" in your quest to find business names and locations. This business was operating in Columbus in the 1880's - I am sure it was not advertised in any paper, nor would it have appeared in any business listing for the time, nor was it probably discussed in polite society. It was established to take care of men's immediate physical needs while searching for a wife/homemaker. Reference: Around 1980 Miller & Paine Dept stores commissioned Dorothy Weyer Creigh, author and historian, to write a series of articles about life in the late 1800's - early 1900's to celebrate their 100 years of business - The articles appeared in the Lincoln and Grand Island Papers - there were 51 weekly articles published - later they were bound into a book called "Nebraska - Where Dreams Grow". I found reference to the above business in the article about mail order brides which I think was the 15th in the series of articles - Very interesting and well researched articles covering a variety of topics - mostly from the Lincoln area but in general there were articles about on the Germans from Russia, The Irish, the Czechs, the Scandinavians, The Mormons, and The immigration society as well as stories about blizzards of 1873 and the Schoolchildrens blizzard - book burnings and the flu epidemic of 1918 among other topics - I bought the book after finding reference to the flu epidemic of 1918 as my grandmother lost some siblings during that epidemic and I was interested in learning more about it - has turned out to be quite an interesting book - DianneH ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found this really interesting. My husbands paternal ancestors were from the Palatinate.(they arrived in 1739) I knew that some of them went to the Netherlands, Switzerland and on to America.......but I had never read about some going to Ireland! I wonder if they Irished their names (is that a word?lol) "The scene was set for a mass migration. At the invitation of Queen Anne in the spring of 1709, about 7 000 harassed Palatines sailed down the Rhine to Rotterdam. From there, about 3000 were dispatched to America, either directly or via England, under the auspices of William Penn. The remaining 4 000 were sent via England to Ireland to strengthen the protestant interest. Although the Palatines were scattered as agricultural settlers over much of Ireland, major accumulations were found in Counties Limerick and Tipperary. As the years progressed and dissatisfactions increased, many of these folk seized opportunities to join their compatriots in Pennsylvania, or to go to newly-opened settlements in Canada. " ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d8ed8c8dc56339bc04st06duc

Cris...........I hadn't been on the Olive Tree genealogy site in a long time. I looked through some of the ships before I had to leave. They have tons of Canadian stuff there. KathyB My mail keeps being sent back when I write a new e-mail to the platte site. Anyone else having this problem? ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d8ed3c7d52003914fcst05duc

Tom............those are great sites, and I must admit there are some fine looking people and very cute babies and toddlers on the pics. I hope someday they are able to identify all of them. KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon&#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d8e228a580e03801e2st04duc

Judy.......and other listers..............Andreas'History of Nebraska is online and has the story. KathyB http://www.kancoll.org/books/andreas_ne/history/erlyhst-p1.html#cibola ____________________________________________________________ Groupon&#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d8d7aef9d7f537300cst03duc

Another day in "paradise" - or so we are led to believe. 1. www.butlercountygallery.com/drupal/flagunk has about a million old photo's displayed looking for names. Excellent site, worth your time to look. Sure looks like a female Schmek on page 1. 2. While looking, I recommend you try my super-secret "Immigrant Dip" to give you energy to cope with all the excitement if you find something !! -- 1 tube container of Jimmy Deans frozen sausage, normal or spiced, fried to rare then pour out grease. -- 1 container RO-TEL (normal or spiced) and 1 container cream cheese, mixed with sausage in frying pan over heat till it melts. Stir it to blend. Put in bowl, let set few minutes, then eat with chips. You'll not regret the experience. 3. www.fordnagle.com is a site that collects identified old photo's and gives them to Family members when and if found. Search alphabetically and use the "find" option on the computer by typing "Neb" in. All "Neb" entries are then highlighted. Have a gud un !!

Thanks for sharing this, Kathy. I found it absolutely fascinating and if I did know about it, I'd long forgotten. Judy Martin, Jax, FL On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:44 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > To the list: Most of us know about this bit of history, but the Columbus paper covered it this morning because of new research being done by some UofN students. Always interesting. KathyB > > http://columbustelegram.com/news/local/article_c2991e5c-56e6-11e0-8285-001cc4c03286.html > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon&#8482 Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d8cc6c3a71554130d7st01duc > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To the list: Most of us know about this bit of history, but the Columbus paper covered it this morning because of new research being done by some UofN students. Always interesting. KathyB http://columbustelegram.com/news/local/article_c2991e5c-56e6-11e0-8285-001cc4c03286.html ____________________________________________________________ Groupon&#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d8cc6c3a71554130d7st01duc

Cris........do you have a subscription to Ancestry? There are at least 13 people who are researching Maurice Sr. and Jr. One lists as many as 10 sources for info. All of them have the same birth date, and Kerry, Limerick Ireland as birthplace, then settled Platte Co. You should check it out or have someone else do it. You might get really lucky with someone elses research like I have. I am not saying the finds are definite.....but can't hurt to try. This is in the Family Tree link. If you already have done so......well I guess it didn't yield anything helpful KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210

Cris- Hopefully this link works...it is the 1901 census for Maurice. Perhaps the narrowed location and religion stated here will help narrow your search. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1901&surname=langan&firstname=maurice&county=Limerick&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving= Megan On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Cris Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > Im so glad to see the activity on the list :) > Here I come again with some of my same old question but since we have had > some new people join us I'm hoping just maybe..... > Iam getting married at the end of May and my future step-daughter is > sending > us to Ireland. OMG Im so excited! Here's the problem. I want to be able to > visit the church/cemetery my LANGAN's attended and are buried. > I've spent the last 4 hours researching and writing to just about everyone > I > came across on various websites.Unfortunately many emails were returned > because the addresses are no longer valid. > What I do know are the dates of baptisims but not what church. Im leaning > towards St. Mary's as it is the oldest church I have found in the Askeaton > area. I have posted the following before but again hoping someone may have > some new leads for me. It's taken my about 7 years just to get to where I > am > now in my research and thats not very far.The trip to Ireland is my dream > come true and I want so bad to make the most of it. > Thanks so much for putting up with me and my endless questions. > Cris > Atwater CA > > > *MAURICE SYLVESTER LANGAN SR. WAS BORN IN IRELAND POSSIBLY ASKEATON OR > RATHKEALE IN ABOUT 1836. (I haven't been able to find this) > > MAURICE MARRIED MARGARET KENNELLY AUGUST 22, 1857 IN ASKEATON, LIMERICK, > IRELAND. > THEY HAD SEVERAL CHILDREN, > and may have had possibly one ot two more children than records have been > found for > > CATHERINE (KATE) > BORN ASKEATON, > CHRISTENED (need church name and cemetery) > 10,JUNE,1858 > (CATHERINE DIED AS A CHILD IN > IRELAND) > > JOHN FRANCES > BORN ASKEATON, > CHRISTENED > 7,JULY,1860 > > MICHAEL > BORN ASKEATON, > CHRISTENED > 5,SEPT,1862 > > MARY > BORN ASKEATON > CHRISTENED > 3,APRIL,1870 > > JERRY(JEREMIAH) > BORN ASKEATON > CHRISTENED > 30,SEPT,1871 > > ELLEN (HELEN-NELL-NELLIE-HELENAM) > BORN ASKEATON > CHRISTENED > 7,MARCH,1873 > > ELIZABETH (SISTER SYLVIA) > BORN ASKEATON > CHRISTENED 17,MAY,1874 > > MAURICE S.(JR) > BORN ASKEATON > CHRISTENED 7,JULY,1875 > > PATRICK BORN > 17,MARCH 1880 > (PATRICK WAS THE ONLY ONE TO BE BORN IN THE UNITED STATES) > > > * > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm so excited, I have an online copy of the marriage cert of James Carrig and Ellen Langan. Married St. Paul's Toronto County of York on 11/24/1856! So The entries I have found in (I think Margaret Curry and another source) are incorrect. I had a feeling they were but without proof... Sadly nothing is filled in on the cert except the 2 witnesses names and neither are a LANGAN or CARRIG. James name is spelled CARRAGE on the cert. -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !

Has anyone ever done any research in Canada? I have been trying to navigate through the websites and naturally am lost. I am trying to find out where I can obtain a copy of the marriage cert for James CARRIG and Ellen LANGAN. Thanks so much Cris Marriage of James CARRIG and Ellen LANGAN Given Name: JAMES Surname:CARRAGE Year of Record: 1856 Comments: York County - marriage Event Description/Source Reference: Roman Catholic Marriage Registers; Office of the Registrar General (RG 80-27); Archives of Ontario, Toronto: microfilm group MS 248, reel 21, volume 2 Page #: page 639 Given Name: ELLEN Surname: LANGAN Year of Record: 1856 Comments: York County - marriage Event Description/Source Reference: Roman Catholic Marriage Registers; Office of the Registrar General (RG 80-27); Archives of Ontario, Toronto: microfilm group MS 248, reel 21, volume 2 Page #: page 639 They don't appear indexed together, but nonetheless are on the same page. -