Am thinking that since this is April 1st, that maybe someone is pulling our leg????? Shirley

Mike, I did some investigating and think we have found where the store was. However, it appears that they were not owners or perhaps owned but not in their name. In the 1915 City Directory it lists E Henry Ott and wife Dora C. It says clerk at the "Held & Clark". Held and Clark is listed under the stores as Hardware and is located 501 W 13th. That address is now located at 13th street and 25th avenue which is a one story building and there is a small one story building on the west side of that building. In the 1923 city directory it does not list where he works but says he is a clerk. In the 1930 city directory it only shows his wife Dora C. I found a very short one or two senctence obit for Dora that states she died in December 1945 in Walnut, Iowa. Shirley

If you have problems contacting him, you can call Stanley Tworek Junior (Stash) who owns and farms the adjacent property. He'll know how to contact Walter and I know that Stash' is in the phone book. Tom On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Megan Mueller <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Tom! > > Megan > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hawdi - >> >> It just hit me. There is a Walter Spies (pronounced as "speeece", who >> owned the land on which sits the remainder of my gggrandfathers sod house. >> He recently sold it and 3 guys bought it for hunting. >> >> I believe Walter is still up and kicking and he would probably be a >> good point of contact for some of these genealogy questions. >> >> I don't have his phone number but it should be in the wide area >> directory there. He seemed very sharp and knowledgeable when my cousin Dean >> and I talked to him several years ago. >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 31, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Marge Galus Sandlier <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I have a Valentine SPES \ SPIECE in my family file at WorldConnect. His >> son Joseph SPES married my grandaunt Catharine KUDRON. >>> >>> >> http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=msandlier2&id=I5982 >>> >>> -- >>> Marge Galus Sandlier >>> Forget Me Not >>> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sandlier/ >>> >>> ---- Megan Mueller <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> ============= >>> Does anyone know of the Spies family? Walenty Spies was godfather to one >> of >>> my ancestors, but I know nothing of him. What would Walenty translate >> to? >>> >>> Thank you! >>> Megan >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Tom! Megan On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected]>wrote: > Hawdi - > > It just hit me. There is a Walter Spies (pronounced as "speeece", who > owned the land on which sits the remainder of my gggrandfathers sod house. > He recently sold it and 3 guys bought it for hunting. > > I believe Walter is still up and kicking and he would probably be a > good point of contact for some of these genealogy questions. > > I don't have his phone number but it should be in the wide area > directory there. He seemed very sharp and knowledgeable when my cousin Dean > and I talked to him several years ago. > > Tom > > > > > > On Mar 31, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Marge Galus Sandlier <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I have a Valentine SPES \ SPIECE in my family file at WorldConnect. His > son Joseph SPES married my grandaunt Catharine KUDRON. > > > > > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=msandlier2&id=I5982 > > > > -- > > Marge Galus Sandlier > > Forget Me Not > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sandlier/ > > > > ---- Megan Mueller <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > ============= > > Does anyone know of the Spies family? Walenty Spies was godfather to one > of > > my ancestors, but I know nothing of him. What would Walenty translate > to? > > > > Thank you! > > Megan > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mike, forward a copy of the picture to [email protected] and I will take it to our Kin Seekers work group this afternoon. We have a couple of ladies who are walking encyclopedias and might be able to help. Shirley For Platte County, Nebraska Genealogy Visit www.megavision.net/pvks/index.html Also visit www.findagrave.com Thanks for deleting my name & email address & any other names and email addresses from this message if you plan to forward it. Please use Bcc; for any and ALL emails INSTEAD of Cc: or To:. If you keep our information private, we might be able to cut down on computer identity theft. Have a great day.. :)

Can anyone help Alice locate the building where “E.H. Ott & Co. – Dealer in Hardware, Stoves, Tinware” was located? (around 1915-1925). Unfortunately, I think it must have been after the 1915 Columbus directory and before the 1930 Columbus directory. Alice has a nice picture of the building if that would help anyone recognize the façade (looks like maybe early 11th street location?). Would the Platte County Historical society have anything? This would be the family of Ernst Henry Ott and Dora C. Ott. Mike From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Can you help Mike: My Dad, no deceased, lived for years in Columbus. A sister & I are coming to IA & NE to see what background info we can find. Our grandfather had a hardware store there, Ott's Hardware and Tin. We have a picture of the building, brick 1 story and the building next to it also looks as tho it says Ott on it. We have no clue where it might be, altho we have grandmas home address and found out it recently sold. We would really like to know if the Hardware Store building still exists, and hoping you might know, or could guide us to someone who does. My grandparents were E.H. Ott and Dora C Ott. Grandpa died in 1927 at St Mary's Hosp & Gma in 1946. Dad was Wallace Ott born in 1909 (in Iowa) moved to NE early and graduated from HS in Columbus and worked as a "soda jerk", I think Tooleys and later for Nash Dietz & Nash Finch. Thanks Alice Pollock Willard, MO 417/742-4420

True enough - Alcohol used in excess has always been a problem and it affects anyone. I've come to that conclusion long ago. Its a personal choice, a sickness, a disease when used to excess, and generally the problem is supressed by Family and friends. During my youth (several decades ago), it was more a social stigma to some, normality in the life of others. Its always the excessive use that causes problems. Its legal and will always be due to the fiasco with prohibition so the politicians won't touch the issue. I don't know if there is an answer to this problem, but today, the issue has to be more serious when one considers rampant drug use along with the alcohol. Tom On Mar 31, 2011, at 10:49 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tom...........I agree with alot of your post, but can't say that I have ever romanticized genealogy. Of course there were some members of the families who kind of kept us from romanticizing anything. My mom wishes I would have left well enough alone, , but I must say it explained alot to me. And our troubles mainly seemed to stem from a bottle. heh! I can say that, because having lived in Columbus........ours were not the only ones. KathyB > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! > http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good for you Shirley, just hurry !! Tom On Mar 31, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Shirley Martys <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It has happened again. The interent has brought some of my family together again. I have not done very much research on my Grandfather's Mother's side of the family but have a few names on my family tree on Ancestry. Someone who was interested in a couple of names contacted me with questions. Lo and behold, she lives right here in Columbus and I have worked side by side with family members and did not even know they were family. Her grandmother is still alive and will be able to answer some questions that I have to fill in the tree and maybe even be able to tell me what in the world happened to gg grandpa Stuch. You never know when a new lead can rejuvenate the research and really get you going again. Just had to share with everyone and remind them that we should never give up. The answers are out there, you just have to turn the right page, open the new document, or venture to a new procedure for it to happen.... Shirley > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Cris, and yes, it's a special day for me because I can still watch the grass grow from this side. Tom On Mar 31, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Cris Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > Happy Birthday Tom. I hope it's extra special > Cris > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Judy G. Martin <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Happy Birthday, Tom Lassek. Many happy returns of the day. >> >> -- >> Judy Martin, Jax, FL >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Life may not be the party we hoped for.. > But while we're here we might as well dance ! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, I'll be durn, can't hide anything anymore. Thank you for the "attaboy" - very kind of you to remember us "old people". I'm 63 now. There was a time when I couldn't even count that high. Tom On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:30 AM, "Judy G. Martin" <[email protected]> wrote: > Happy Birthday, Tom Lassek. Many happy returns of the day. > > -- > Judy Martin, Jax, FL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hawdi - It just hit me. There is a Walter Spies (pronounced as "speeece", who owned the land on which sits the remainder of my gggrandfathers sod house. He recently sold it and 3 guys bought it for hunting. I believe Walter is still up and kicking and he would probably be a good point of contact for some of these genealogy questions. I don't have his phone number but it should be in the wide area directory there. He seemed very sharp and knowledgeable when my cousin Dean and I talked to him several years ago. Tom On Mar 31, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Marge Galus Sandlier <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a Valentine SPES \ SPIECE in my family file at WorldConnect. His son Joseph SPES married my grandaunt Catharine KUDRON. > > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=msandlier2&id=I5982 > > -- > Marge Galus Sandlier > Forget Me Not > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sandlier/ > > ---- Megan Mueller <[email protected]> wrote: > > ============= > Does anyone know of the Spies family? Walenty Spies was godfather to one of > my ancestors, but I know nothing of him. What would Walenty translate to? > > Thank you! > Megan > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tom...........I agree with alot of your post, but can't say that I have ever romanticized genealogy. Of course there were some members of the families who kind of kept us from romanticizing anything. My mom wishes I would have left well enough alone, , but I must say it explained alot to me. And our troubles mainly seemed to stem from a bottle. heh! I can say that, because having lived in Columbus........ours were not the only ones. KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210

DIANNE.............enjoyed your post, though I think Tom had his tongue firmly imbedded in his cheek when he made his! lol I expect there were lots of married men who frequented the brothels everywhere. They usually just didn't tell on each other.......just like nowadays. Interesting story about your gggrandmother. When you read the old newspapers you see that things happened back then like always, including lots of murder, incest,abuse etc. I expect that alot of the women and men in Columbus for instance were deemed insane when actually they were alcoholics or going through menopause! KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d94b2ca398ab51c107st01duc

Good for you, Shirley! It's a small world after all! Yes, Sherri, there is hope for you finding the Engels. lol The internet surely has done wonders tho for family research. No doubt. It sure helped me with my hubbys side. Recently, my daughter, who lives in Tucson now, became acquainted with a distant cousin none of us had ever met! He lives in Lincoln, Ne but winters in Tucson. He, wife and daughter have become good friends, and he told her that he had just met a Bomberger from Maryland in Tucson. The Maryland Bombergers are the original family! I suddenly feel the tree sprouting more branches. Oh yes..............and Happy Birthday to the big guy, Tom!!!! KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210

Yes - Moral depravity - sighhh, well, the truth be known, I suppose the "End Results" are more widespread than one would ordinarily think - kept so by the stoic adherence to the social and religious norms + values of the times. Then again, the subject has always been "hiding" right out in the open for all to see, if they wished to see - kinda like missing the tree because they were looking at the forest. Personally, I have read from many sources over the years, that for one reason or the other, many females gravitated towards providing such services - a matter of supply and demand I would guess, and from this pool of femininity then, pioneer wives would be "found". I suppose that if I were a female during this time period, I would have done the same - of course I wouldn't have made much since I would undoubtedly have carried the title of "ugliest female in Columbus" [smile] and the tighty whities would have baffled them. I think that probably, today, in our ardor associated with genealogy, we tend to romanticize the pioneer times, when in reality, most lived right on the edge, where the difference of a penny may well determine whether one eats that day or not. I suppose at times like this, the immigrant Family would have questioned their sanity in leaving the old country, but then again, their pioneer lives in Nebraska may still have been preferable. What a strange world we live in. Tom On Mar 31, 2011, at 3:35 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Tom, I think these places were geared more to the single man than married > men, but am sure none were turned away - or very few were turned away - > > The reason behind my thoughts are due to stories that have been told to me > by great aunts - My gg grandmother happened to earn her living in this > profession in Iowa - I wondered why my great grandfather changed his last name > - but after finding some letters from my great aunt Myrtle to my > grandfather and being told stories by my great aunt Helen - I kind of gathered that > he didn't want anyone to know who his mother was. > > Side story on the same subject: i was helping a lady in the library on > Monday hunt for an obituary from the 1800's. While I was paging through 1897 > microfilm i found an article about a 26 year old man who was charged and > convicted of moral depravity. it seems he convinced a young woman from a > local brothel to come home and live with him and he was sentenced to a year in > jail. It did not say if she was charged with anything but indicated that > she was of questionable moral background. > > Dianne > > > In a message dated 3/30/2011 11:55:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > Hello - > > Its doubtful that any Polish men would know anything about such a subject. > A 14 hour workday on the farm leaves little time indeed for anything else. > What with daily Mass in the AM and Bible Study in the PM, there's barely > enough time to spend an hour or two with the wife over dinner. > > Private prayer has to be allotted time of course along with their visiting > the hospital sick. Daily rosaries are said when they can squeeze a few > minutes here and there. It was a tough life. > > Tom > > > On Mar 29, 2011, at 3:48 PM, "Sherri Brakenhoff" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Very interesting! No, I'd never heard of "Old Hats". I'll be on the > lookout >> for it now, though ;>) >> >> Sherri Brakenhoff - [email protected] >> NEGenWeb, Platte Co Coordinator - >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/ >> NEGenWeb, Colfax Co Coordinator - >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/colfax/ >> Sherri's Family Findings - >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sherri/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:21 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Columbus Journal link >> >> Sherri - Am wondering if you have run across a business named "Old > Hat's" >> in your quest to find business names and locations. This business was >> operating in Columbus in the 1880's - I am sure it was not advertised in > any >> >> paper, nor would it have appeared in any business listing for the time, > nor >> was it probably discussed in polite society. It was established to > take >> care of men's immediate physical needs while searching for a >> wife/homemaker. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great news, Shirley! Thanks for sharing. P.S. Does that mean there's still hope for me finding my great-grandpa Johan Georg Engel's family? <sigh> Sherri Brakenhoff - [email protected] NEGenWeb, Platte Co Coordinator - http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/ NEGenWeb, Colfax Co Coordinator - http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/colfax/ Sherri's Family Findings - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sherri/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shirley Martys Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:58 AM To: Nebraska - Platte Subject: [NEPLATTE] Wonders of Internet and Family It has happened again. The interent has brought some of my family together again. I have not done very much research on my Grandfather's Mother's side of the family but have a few names on my family tree on Ancestry. Someone who was interested in a couple of names contacted me with questions. Lo and behold, she lives right here in Columbus and I have worked side by side with family members and did not even know they were family. Her grandmother is still alive and will be able to answer some questions that I have to fill in the tree and maybe even be able to tell me what in the world happened to gg grandpa Stuch. You never know when a new lead can rejuvenate the research and really get you going again. Just had to share with everyone and remind them that we should never give up. The answers are out there, you just have to turn the right page, open the new document, or venture to a new procedure for it to happen.... Shirley

Happy Birthday Tom. I hope it's extra special Cris On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Judy G. Martin <[email protected]>wrote: > Happy Birthday, Tom Lassek. Many happy returns of the day. > > -- > Judy Martin, Jax, FL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !

It has happened again. The interent has brought some of my family together again. I have not done very much research on my Grandfather's Mother's side of the family but have a few names on my family tree on Ancestry. Someone who was interested in a couple of names contacted me with questions. Lo and behold, she lives right here in Columbus and I have worked side by side with family members and did not even know they were family. Her grandmother is still alive and will be able to answer some questions that I have to fill in the tree and maybe even be able to tell me what in the world happened to gg grandpa Stuch. You never know when a new lead can rejuvenate the research and really get you going again. Just had to share with everyone and remind them that we should never give up. The answers are out there, you just have to turn the right page, open the new document, or venture to a new procedure for it to happen.... Shirley

Happy Birthday, Tom Lassek. Many happy returns of the day. -- Judy Martin, Jax, FL

I have a Valentine SPES \ SPIECE in my family file at WorldConnect. His son Joseph SPES married my grandaunt Catharine KUDRON. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=msandlier2&id=I5982 -- Marge Galus Sandlier Forget Me Not http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sandlier/ ---- Megan Mueller <[email protected]> wrote: ============= Does anyone know of the Spies family? Walenty Spies was godfather to one of my ancestors, but I know nothing of him. What would Walenty translate to? Thank you! Megan