This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: smartys1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.nebraska.counties.platte/297.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could Erhard have gone by "Ed"? Ed Kahny is noted in a 1905 and a 1906 Tarnov newspaper. I find nothing on his wife Louise. May have been buried at any one of many rural cemeteries with no stone....Shirley Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: arkaney1 Surnames: KAHNY Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.nebraska.counties.platte/297/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Erhard KAHNY and his wife Louise came to the USA in 1888 and settled in Platte county. At some point shortly after this Louise died and Erhard moved to Pierce county in 1893 and remarried. I am seeking a death or burial record for Louise in Platte county. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: arkaney1 Surnames: BRUGGER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.nebraska.counties.platte/296/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Seeking any further information on the family of Leonhard and Louise Brugger and children Emma, Amelia and unnamed infant, listed in the 1880 census in the town of Davis, They came to this country from Germany in 1879 and after the deaths of Leonhard and at least one of the children, Louise returned to Germany in 1882. I would like to find the death and/or burial records of the deceased family members. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
greetings, after my great grandfather died, my great-grandmother remarried and moved to Ewing, Holt Co. Her name, Eva Rodak Marfica (Marchwica) Ciechon. Her husband, Charles Ciechon (or Chiochon). They lived near a Tomjack (Tomczak) family in Holt Co., and my grandfather (John Marfica) spent much time living with the neighbors, the Tomjack's, because the story was that the new step-father did not care for his step children... anyway, wonder if there's any connection between this Tomjack family and the one my grandpa lived with... On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:19 AM, William Thoendel wrote: > > John Rosno Jr [Parents] was born in Apr 1868 in Columbus, Platte Co, NE. He died in 1926 in of Ewing, Holt Co, NE. He was buried in St Peter's Cem, Ewing, Holt Co, NE. He married Dora Tomjack in Jan 1892 in St John's Church, Holt Co, NE.Dora Tomjack [Parents] was born in Dec 1875 in Du Bois, Washington Co, IL. She died in 1960 in of Ewing, Holt Co, NE. She was buried in St Peter's Cem, Ewing, Holt Co, NE. She married John Rosno Jr in Jan 1892 in St John's Church, Holt Co, NE.They had the following children: FiAnna Rosno MiiJoseph L Rosno FiiiMary Rosno FivLiving FvJosephine Rosno was born in of Ewing, Holt Co, NE. MviJohn F Rosno > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > 再见。 > > MrBill > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I cannot stand the newer version of ancestry. Unfortunately, the FHC's version does not allow for the option of reverting to the old search. Thanks for the suggestion to email them and let them know! I may even post that suggestion at the FHC so others will do it too! Maybe if enough people do that they will, at the very least, let us keep the option to use the old version. > From: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 05:13:26 +0000 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Ancestry Old and New Version > > > Dianne.......I can relate to everything you said. Even at our FHL now, which is the 2nd largest in the U.S., they have not only totally ruined the setup by their remodel, but the volunteers know so little about finding records. When I started going there......probably 15 years now, the people were more knowledgable because they had to do things the old fashioned way. Now, they train them to Ancestry and let it go at that. Phooey! > > Shirley.....thanks for that info about the default. Maybe it disappeared off my browser because not enough people were using it. > > Not all immigrants were just dropped off to fend for themselves. The people coming to Baltimore were put on a train immediately to their destination. Most had to be sponsored by a church or relative, so were tagged and sent on their way. The church sponsored them in Baltimore if they had no family. I suppose there might have been some who decided to stay in NY or whatever tho. Or maybe it differed with groups. Or maybe things changed as the number expanded year after year. There are some interesting tales about experiences of early immigrants all over the net. > > We have a relative who supposedly died on board ship, but when I finally found the family on the ship, there was no notation that he had died. There was also a family story that he had black fever because he would not be inoculated. If he did arrive sick, he would have been quarantined and possibly died, but I have no idea where he is buried. > > KathyB > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon.com Official Site > 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4def0539c441e319b5ast05duc > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am just going to give the link, as it is a pretty long article, but it not only gives some hints about burial at sea, but other things such as what happened to passengers who were sick upon docking, and single people or those without funds. Interesting. KathyB http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=7116 ____________________________________________________________ Banks Forced to Forgive Credit Card Debt See how much of your debt could be settled! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4def0983dc0af31a250st06duc
Dianne.......I can relate to everything you said. Even at our FHL now, which is the 2nd largest in the U.S., they have not only totally ruined the setup by their remodel, but the volunteers know so little about finding records. When I started going there......probably 15 years now, the people were more knowledgable because they had to do things the old fashioned way. Now, they train them to Ancestry and let it go at that. Phooey! Shirley.....thanks for that info about the default. Maybe it disappeared off my browser because not enough people were using it. Not all immigrants were just dropped off to fend for themselves. The people coming to Baltimore were put on a train immediately to their destination. Most had to be sponsored by a church or relative, so were tagged and sent on their way. The church sponsored them in Baltimore if they had no family. I suppose there might have been some who decided to stay in NY or whatever tho. Or maybe it differed with groups. Or maybe things changed as the number expanded year after year. There are some interesting tales about experiences of early immigrants all over the net. We have a relative who supposedly died on board ship, but when I finally found the family on the ship, there was no notation that he had died. There was also a family story that he had black fever because he would not be inoculated. If he did arrive sick, he would have been quarantined and possibly died, but I have no idea where he is buried. KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4def0539c441e319b5ast05duc
More about this subject. I found my Mosteks, on the Bremen to Baltimore lists. Don't even remember why I went there, but found that alot of Poles came this way. There was a church organization that sponsored them and they either stayed there on the east coast or went midwest. DIANNEH.......I agree about the new Ancestry format. I hate it. Up until last week, I had a default link up, (the old format).......but it is gone now. KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4deedf6b433493c5839st02duc
Shirley - I send an email every time I use ancestry telling them how much I dislike the new search results - lol - wondering if they have the idea by now that I really do hate it - but we are not allowed to use the old version or show anyhow how to get to it at the library - they dont want people changing stuff - (heck - we dont even have access to more than a couple hundred sheets of paper or ink cartridges for the printers or copier- have to call the computer people which is really redundant) and if I have to take another "lesson" on how to use Ancestry from a certain person at the library who knows nothing about Genealogy - I may jump out the window in protest! Dianne In a message dated 6/7/2011 8:13:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I work nearly every day with Ancestry and have to agree the old version is more user friendly. You can still use the old version. When you first sign in, click on the SEARCH link and when the next page comes up look on the far right. There is a link in small print for the Old Version. If enough of us continue to do this, they may get the idea that we are not liking the newer version.....Shirley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Valene - Well, as with everything else in this genealogy business, everyone has their own way to do their research. All are good, but the BEST is the one that gives you the answer you need in an expeditious manner without relieving you of the money you received when you turned in Pop bottles. If I were you, I would call ahead to the LDS FHC where you go, or the libraries in your area to see if they have the publication "Germans to America". They have an online version at http://www.germanroots.com/gtoa.html but I don't know how good it is as I've never used it. This publication is known for its inaccuracies, which is by far with respect to the proper spelling of surnames more than anything. The people who transcribed the original ships manifests simply did not know what to make of the phonetic rendition of the proper spelling as given to the original recorder by the Polish immigrant, so the recorder documented the surname phonetically. THEN, it was rendered phonetically AGAIN in "Germans to America", a multi volume publication. There's really not much the recorder can do, I wouldn't think, to screw up the surname ROSNO, but it's possible, so you'll have to watch the spelling fairly close with emphasis on the ROS portion of the surname, the root, which has a tendency to remain intact, more or less. You know about the year they immigrated so you don't have to look through all the volumes since they are labeled by years. In this way, you will find out the dates, the ships name, and a lot of tangent information. Here, you need to get a copy of the written manifest. FOR SURE, you can get a copy at the City Admin Office, City of New York, State of New York, but there are other places available as well. You'll want a copy of the ENTIRE ships manifest which contains lots of stuff that you may not think valuable at this time. Perhaps later it will be. Anyway, you'll see the Deaths on board and the disposition of the remains plus a whole lots of other stuff. All this tangent information is important because it's all additive and paints a more complete picture which produces leads of it's own. Prior to any regulation, ships simply dropped immigrants off where ever was convenient and the people were left to their own talents in making a life for themselves, but here, New York residents and others did everything possible to relieve the immigrant of his money until finally, the immigrant and his Family became destitute, wards of the city of New York. Finally, there were just too many and it was costing the city big money to take care of these people, so the city instituted regulation demands on everything, the shipping, the processing, and the charges. In this way, the immigrant went on his way West (most went West) with a goodly portion of their money still in their pocket. As such, New York City because the repository for all the shipping manifests starting when Castle Garden until such a time as they ran out of places to store all these old manifests. Sooooooo - along came technology which produced micro film. New York City then microfilmed all the old manifests then threw them in the dumpster. Along came a feller named Ira Glazier (Later Doctor Ira Glazier) and went dumpster diving, picked out all the old original manifest books and carted them to where he worked, the Balsh Institute in Philadelphia. Then he paid a bunch of people to transcribe the information and put it all in his new, multi-volume publication, "Germans to America". If you rely on immigrant records "stored" at Castle Garden, the Barge Office, and Ellis Island, you may well have problems as periodic fires destroyed some of these records so the years you need may no longer be available. However, this is not true with the City Shipping Manifests - they're complete, and the truth be realized, that may be the only place you can confirm their presence with at lease some information available by way of research. The End Tomasz On Jun 7, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Valene Contor wrote: > Where is the best place to find the ship records? I've looked on > www.castlegardens.org and I've looked at the institutional version of > ancestry.com without any success either place. Someone told me that they > thought the private version of ancestry.com is better than the instituional > version, Is that where I need to go, or do you know a better way to access > those records? >
Have you tried ISTG? International ships transcribers guild. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Valene Contor <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:39:26 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Progress ?? Where is the best place to find the ship records? I've looked on www.castlegardens.org and I've looked at the institutional version of ancestry.com without any success either place. Someone told me that they thought the private version of ancestry.com is better than the instituional version, Is that where I need to go, or do you know a better way to access those records? On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Valene Contor <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thank you and yes, Maura and I were able to share information on > Catherine > > Kujawa, and I'm excited about that, and MrBill gave me some information > that > > I didn't have about John Rosno Jr. > > You are in good hands, both Maura and Mr. Bill are top notch. > > > > I'm hoping to find birth records for John's three youngest children who > were > > born in Poland. . (His youngest son, John Jr. is recorded on the St. > > John's Catholic Church records that you transcribed. (That road led to > > Tomasz!) Two daughters, Francis and Josephine are recorded on census > > records, but they are not in the Smogulec records. In addition, I have a > > personal family history source that indicates that John had a baby son, > > Casimiris, who died at sea. I would like to document him as well. > > Well, usually 3 days or so after the birth, Baptism takes place. Of course > this isn't written in rock and it's subject to various conditions. If > CASIMIR were born at sea, chances are that he wasn't formally baptized, > rather, it was common to most for the Father, and or a notable, such as the > ships Captain to baptize the baby conditionally. > > For sure, there will be an entry in the ships log manifest somewhere > concerning the baby's death. Such is quite common, the company must have > good documentation as to the people they transport. They are accountable. > > If the baby was baptized at the port of debarkation, the entry will be in > their sacramental records. If by some chance there was a priest aboard ship, > the priest would carry the sacramental informational specifics with him and > he would have recorded Baptism and Death information eventually at the > church in the port of debarkation, or more logically, at the point of > arrival. If the ship stopped somewhere else enroute, the records may be > there. > > If the baby died say 3 days or less prior to their arrival, the baby's > remains may well have been kept onboard so Baptism after the fact could be > performed by a priest and he could be buried in hallow church ground. Burial > at sea was accepted due to the necessity of the moment, however, it was > always the second choice. > > > > I'm also interested to know if they had any family events--births or > > deaths--while they were in Chatsworth. You said the church gave you a > copy > > of those early records? > > Yes. The church that services Chattsworth is located in an adjacent town, > FAIRBURY and of course, they only started keeping records around the time > our ancestors passed through, especially death records. When I researched, > there was no web page or email contact so I had to write a letter. If I had > to do it again, I would have called first, then followed it up with a letter > for specifics. It'll give the priest or today maybe a secretary more time to > look thru their books. > > You'll probably benefit if you make a "donation", I would think $15 or $20. > I just include the bills in the letter. So far, no problems after almost 40 > years. > > One thing, recommend you read about the history of the times. Tangent > information sometimes solves problems in your research. If I recall > correctly, their earliest newspaper was the "Plains Dealer" and they've got > all the early stuff on microfilm at the Chattsworth library, or post office. > I forgot. Its possible that the LDS has filmed it, but more likely they > haven't maybe they filmed the church records. Its worth checking. > > For sure, you need go to your local library and see if you can view the > film through their interlibrary loan program for reference material. Lastly, > my ancestors travelled to Chattsworth from Chicago chasing long-term work in > the mines they were supposed to dig. Unfortunatelythis never happened. Too > expensive I understand. > > In Duncan church records and other reference material, there are a few > words alluding to some pioneer ancestors may have stopped there prior to > arriving in Nebraska. > > Tomasz > > > > Valene > > > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Valene - > >> > >> Are you making any progress ?? Persistence !! > >> > >> Tomasz > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The institutional version of Ancestry is what the libraries and historical societies that post records to Ancestry use - I use it at the Library and it is not really any different that the regular version - I have the regular version at home - same records - I can tell you it takes Ancestry 6 months or more to put the records out there for use when an institution uploads a lot of records - Oregon records that we know are uploaded are still not displayed - and by using the main page and searching a person's name - you dont always get every record either - use that search but before you give up - also use the card catalog on ancestry as a lot of databases dont appear on a regular search - the persons name may not appear when you use the card catalog either - but on the card catalog search - you can enter locations = like a county name such as Marion County, Oregon or a type or record such as immigration records in Oregon - etc - and find stuff that does not appear on regular searches - I personally hate the new display that Ancestry now uses as I find I have to scroll through 100 timems more records to find what I want, and am planning on giving up my personal version of it - - Dianne In a message dated 6/7/2011 2:28:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Valene, honestly, the very best place to look at records were on the old films. It was time consuming and tedious, but I doubt I would have found the people in my families without it. Our FHL has packed all of them away and relies on Ancestry totally now, and it is annoying, because besides name being spelled various ways, even when I have put in names spelled a different way on the Castle Gardens site, they have not come up. And if you don't know the name of the ship......which most of us don't.......you can't be sure. Ellis Island on the other hand has excellent records, but they are later. Not sure what you mean by institutional Ancestry? Do you mean that FHL and other genealogy sites might have more records? I doubt that, but I gave up my personal subscription on Ancestry after 3-4 years, and of course they add things almost daily. I will have to ask the people at FHL about that. A friend of mine had a very nice experience yesterday and reminds one about paying it forward in genealogy. She has been searching for the first wife of a relative for a long time, her aunt was the second. She found an obit on Ancestry and called the funeral home to see what info she could get. The guy she spoke to was MORE than helpful. He found all kinds of info for her and solved the mystery of the first wife more than she ever imagined. I had the same experience once on an obit from a small town in Nevada. The gal sent me info on everyone in the family I was researching.......and a living relative. Had the opposite happen one time where they didn't want to let any info out, but once in awhile you get very lucky. Good luck as you continue your search. The more you get the more you want, right? KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4dee96214d2d7304aa1st05duc ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I work nearly every day with Ancestry and have to agree the old version is more user friendly. You can still use the old version. When you first sign in, click on the SEARCH link and when the next page comes up look on the far right. There is a link in small print for the Old Version. If enough of us continue to do this, they may get the idea that we are not liking the newer version.....Shirley
Valene, honestly, the very best place to look at records were on the old films. It was time consuming and tedious, but I doubt I would have found the people in my families without it. Our FHL has packed all of them away and relies on Ancestry totally now, and it is annoying, because besides name being spelled various ways, even when I have put in names spelled a different way on the Castle Gardens site, they have not come up. And if you don't know the name of the ship......which most of us don't.......you can't be sure. Ellis Island on the other hand has excellent records, but they are later. Not sure what you mean by institutional Ancestry? Do you mean that FHL and other genealogy sites might have more records? I doubt that, but I gave up my personal subscription on Ancestry after 3-4 years, and of course they add things almost daily. I will have to ask the people at FHL about that. A friend of mine had a very nice experience yesterday and reminds one about paying it forward in genealogy. She has been searching for the first wife of a relative for a long time, her aunt was the second. She found an obit on Ancestry and called the funeral home to see what info she could get. The guy she spoke to was MORE than helpful. He found all kinds of info for her and solved the mystery of the first wife more than she ever imagined. I had the same experience once on an obit from a small town in Nevada. The gal sent me info on everyone in the family I was researching.......and a living relative. Had the opposite happen one time where they didn't want to let any info out, but once in awhile you get very lucky. Good luck as you continue your search. The more you get the more you want, right? KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4dee96214d2d7304aa1st05duc
Our local newspaper this morning has a nice article about genealogy and family history plus some links to a few sites: _http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20110607/LIFE/106070303/Mapping-out -family-lineage?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Home|p_ (http://www.statesmanjournal.com/article/20110607/LIFE/106070303/Mapping-out-family-lineage?odyssey=mo d|newswell|text|Home|p) if this link doesn't work - go to _www.statesmanjournal.com_ (http://www.statesmanjournal.com) and scroll abut halfway down the page - on the left you will see an article called mapping out family lineage - it will usually bring up a little box that you need to put in zip code, year of birth and gender before it allows you to read most of the articles - Dianne H
Where is the best place to find the ship records? I've looked on www.castlegardens.org and I've looked at the institutional version of ancestry.com without any success either place. Someone told me that they thought the private version of ancestry.com is better than the instituional version, Is that where I need to go, or do you know a better way to access those records? On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Valene Contor <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thank you and yes, Maura and I were able to share information on > Catherine > > Kujawa, and I'm excited about that, and MrBill gave me some information > that > > I didn't have about John Rosno Jr. > > You are in good hands, both Maura and Mr. Bill are top notch. > > > > I'm hoping to find birth records for John's three youngest children who > were > > born in Poland. . (His youngest son, John Jr. is recorded on the St. > > John's Catholic Church records that you transcribed. (That road led to > > Tomasz!) Two daughters, Francis and Josephine are recorded on census > > records, but they are not in the Smogulec records. In addition, I have a > > personal family history source that indicates that John had a baby son, > > Casimiris, who died at sea. I would like to document him as well. > > Well, usually 3 days or so after the birth, Baptism takes place. Of course > this isn't written in rock and it's subject to various conditions. If > CASIMIR were born at sea, chances are that he wasn't formally baptized, > rather, it was common to most for the Father, and or a notable, such as the > ships Captain to baptize the baby conditionally. > > For sure, there will be an entry in the ships log manifest somewhere > concerning the baby's death. Such is quite common, the company must have > good documentation as to the people they transport. They are accountable. > > If the baby was baptized at the port of debarkation, the entry will be in > their sacramental records. If by some chance there was a priest aboard ship, > the priest would carry the sacramental informational specifics with him and > he would have recorded Baptism and Death information eventually at the > church in the port of debarkation, or more logically, at the point of > arrival. If the ship stopped somewhere else enroute, the records may be > there. > > If the baby died say 3 days or less prior to their arrival, the baby's > remains may well have been kept onboard so Baptism after the fact could be > performed by a priest and he could be buried in hallow church ground. Burial > at sea was accepted due to the necessity of the moment, however, it was > always the second choice. > > > > I'm also interested to know if they had any family events--births or > > deaths--while they were in Chatsworth. You said the church gave you a > copy > > of those early records? > > Yes. The church that services Chattsworth is located in an adjacent town, > FAIRBURY and of course, they only started keeping records around the time > our ancestors passed through, especially death records. When I researched, > there was no web page or email contact so I had to write a letter. If I had > to do it again, I would have called first, then followed it up with a letter > for specifics. It'll give the priest or today maybe a secretary more time to > look thru their books. > > You'll probably benefit if you make a "donation", I would think $15 or $20. > I just include the bills in the letter. So far, no problems after almost 40 > years. > > One thing, recommend you read about the history of the times. Tangent > information sometimes solves problems in your research. If I recall > correctly, their earliest newspaper was the "Plains Dealer" and they've got > all the early stuff on microfilm at the Chattsworth library, or post office. > I forgot. Its possible that the LDS has filmed it, but more likely they > haven't maybe they filmed the church records. Its worth checking. > > For sure, you need go to your local library and see if you can view the > film through their interlibrary loan program for reference material. Lastly, > my ancestors travelled to Chattsworth from Chicago chasing long-term work in > the mines they were supposed to dig. Unfortunatelythis never happened. Too > expensive I understand. > > In Duncan church records and other reference material, there are a few > words alluding to some pioneer ancestors may have stopped there prior to > arriving in Nebraska. > > Tomasz > > > > Valene > > > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Valene - > >> > >> Are you making any progress ?? Persistence !! > >> > >> Tomasz > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
On Jun 6, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Valene Contor <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you and yes, Maura and I were able to share information on Catherine > Kujawa, and I'm excited about that, and MrBill gave me some information that > I didn't have about John Rosno Jr. You are in good hands, both Maura and Mr. Bill are top notch. > > I'm hoping to find birth records for John's three youngest children who were > born in Poland. . (His youngest son, John Jr. is recorded on the St. > John's Catholic Church records that you transcribed. (That road led to > Tomasz!) Two daughters, Francis and Josephine are recorded on census > records, but they are not in the Smogulec records. In addition, I have a > personal family history source that indicates that John had a baby son, > Casimiris, who died at sea. I would like to document him as well. Well, usually 3 days or so after the birth, Baptism takes place. Of course this isn't written in rock and it's subject to various conditions. If CASIMIR were born at sea, chances are that he wasn't formally baptized, rather, it was common to most for the Father, and or a notable, such as the ships Captain to baptize the baby conditionally. For sure, there will be an entry in the ships log manifest somewhere concerning the baby's death. Such is quite common, the company must have good documentation as to the people they transport. They are accountable. If the baby was baptized at the port of debarkation, the entry will be in their sacramental records. If by some chance there was a priest aboard ship, the priest would carry the sacramental informational specifics with him and he would have recorded Baptism and Death information eventually at the church in the port of debarkation, or more logically, at the point of arrival. If the ship stopped somewhere else enroute, the records may be there. If the baby died say 3 days or less prior to their arrival, the baby's remains may well have been kept onboard so Baptism after the fact could be performed by a priest and he could be buried in hallow church ground. Burial at sea was accepted due to the necessity of the moment, however, it was always the second choice. > > I'm also interested to know if they had any family events--births or > deaths--while they were in Chatsworth. You said the church gave you a copy > of those early records? Yes. The church that services Chattsworth is located in an adjacent town, FAIRBURY and of course, they only started keeping records around the time our ancestors passed through, especially death records. When I researched, there was no web page or email contact so I had to write a letter. If I had to do it again, I would have called first, then followed it up with a letter for specifics. It'll give the priest or today maybe a secretary more time to look thru their books. You'll probably benefit if you make a "donation", I would think $15 or $20. I just include the bills in the letter. So far, no problems after almost 40 years. One thing, recommend you read about the history of the times. Tangent information sometimes solves problems in your research. If I recall correctly, their earliest newspaper was the "Plains Dealer" and they've got all the early stuff on microfilm at the Chattsworth library, or post office. I forgot. Its possible that the LDS has filmed it, but more likely they haven't maybe they filmed the church records. Its worth checking. For sure, you need go to your local library and see if you can view the film through their interlibrary loan program for reference material. Lastly, my ancestors travelled to Chattsworth from Chicago chasing long-term work in the mines they were supposed to dig. Unfortunatelythis never happened. Too expensive I understand. In Duncan church records and other reference material, there are a few words alluding to some pioneer ancestors may have stopped there prior to arriving in Nebraska. Tomasz > > Valene > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> >> Valene - >> >> Are you making any progress ?? Persistence !! >> >> Tomasz >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Rosalie lived across the street from us when I was a kid. Lots of memories of the Burzynski family. Mom and I reminisced about the neighbors yesterday. Fr. John, her brother, was called Boy. He was the only one in with all those girls!!!!! ========================================================================= Rosalie (Burzynski) Begley, 75, died Saturday, May 28, 2011. Rosalie was born Feb. 12, 1936, in Columbus. She was preceded in death by husband, Donald J. Begley; parents, Walter and Sophie Burzynski; brother, Rev. John Kent Burzynski, O.F.M.; sisters, Gloria Daugherty and Rita Ballantine. She is survived by her sons, David D. Begley, Stephen P. Begley and wife, Lisa Worthington; daughters and sons-in-law, Barbara E. and Howard Gilman, Christine J. and Kevin Shouse, Rebecca A. and Jonathan Hirsch; nine grandchildren, John P., Mary D. and Grace A. Begley, David, Byron and Aaron Gilman, Erik and Alex Shouse, Rachel Rosalie Hirsch; sisters, Lorraine B. Phillips and Jane Langan (Bernard); and numerous nieces and nephews. The family will receive friends today from 2-4 p.m. with a Catholic Daughters rosary at 3:30 p.m. at the West Center Chapel. Visitation resumes after 5:30 p.m. today at Mary Our Queen Catholic Church, in Omaha, with vigil service at 6:30 p.m. at the church. Mass of Christian Burial will be held Wednesday at 10 a.m. at Mary Our Queen Catholic Church. Interment will be in the Calvary Cemetery in Omaha. In lieu of flowers, the family suggests Masses or memorials to Mary Our Queen Educational Trust, Creighton Prep, or Marian High School. Arrangements by Heafey-Heafey-Hoffmann-Dworak-Cutler West Center Chape, 7805 West Center Road, Omaha, NE 68124. www.heafeyheafey.com Copyright 2011 The Columbus Telegram. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Posted in Obituaries on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:30 am ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ded097f823772bbe2est06duc
Thank you and yes, Maura and I were able to share information on Catherine Kujawa, and I'm excited about that, and MrBill gave me some information that I didn't have about John Rosno Jr. I'm hoping to find birth records for John's three youngest children who were born in Poland. . (His youngest son, John Jr. is recorded on the St. John's Catholic Church records that you transcribed. (That road led to Tomasz!) Two daughters, Francis and Josephine are recorded on census records, but they are not in the Smogulec records. In addition, I have a personal family history source that indicates that John had a baby son, Casimiris, who died at sea. I would like to document him as well. I'm also interested to know if they had any family events--births or deaths--while they were in Chatsworth. You said the church gave you a copy of those early records? Valene On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Valene - > > Are you making any progress ?? Persistence !! > > Tomasz > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Thanks MrBill! I had a record of John Jr.'s birth, but I didn't have any other information on him. On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:19 AM, William Thoendel <[email protected]> wrote: > > John Rosno Jr [Parents] was born in Apr 1868 in Columbus, Platte Co, NE. He > died in 1926 in of Ewing, Holt Co, NE. He was buried in St Peter's Cem, > Ewing, Holt Co, NE. He married Dora Tomjack in Jan 1892 in St John's Church, > Holt Co, NE.Dora Tomjack [Parents] was born in Dec 1875 in Du Bois, > Washington Co, IL. She died in 1960 in of Ewing, Holt Co, NE. She was buried > in St Peter's Cem, Ewing, Holt Co, NE. She married John Rosno Jr in Jan 1892 > in St John's Church, Holt Co, NE.They had the following children: FiAnna > Rosno MiiJoseph L Rosno FiiiMary Rosno FivLiving FvJosephine Rosno was born > in of Ewing, Holt Co, NE. MviJohn F Rosno > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > 再见。 > > MrBill > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message