I just returned from a wonderful trip to Tarnow, Poland. It was complete with finding the location of my great-grandparents' home and meeting second cousins. If anyone wants to see pictures of the area, just ask. We spent time in Tarnow, Bogumitowice, Wierzchoslawice, Komorow, Rudka, and Radlow.

What you say is true, virtually no one writes a letter anymore. However, there are that select few, mainly older people, who prefer to write simply because that's the only form of communication that's been ingrained into them from day one, that and the telephone. The computer is a "Foreign Object", best relegated to the younger generation. Tomasz On Jul 15, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Shirley Martys wrote: > > I am anxious to receive that letter. It can produce some beautiful lettering and usually very readable. > > I remember sitting at the old wooden desk at school with the inkwell and doing the penmanship. Practice, practice, practice the teacher would say. Kids now days hardly doing any writing at all; just a couple of years it seems and then it is all done on the computer. I haven't written a letter to anyone in many many years. All that practice did not do me any good as my writing has gotton less and less readable. Those who come after us and do their research will have it much easier as everything will be very readable. But of course, we know we have done all the hard work already. ..Shirley > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am anxious to receive that letter. It can produce some beautiful lettering and usually very readable. I remember sitting at the old wooden desk at school with the inkwell and doing the penmanship. Practice, practice, practice the teacher would say. Kids now days hardly doing any writing at all; just a couple of years it seems and then it is all done on the computer. I haven't written a letter to anyone in many many years. All that practice did not do me any good as my writing has gotton less and less readable. Those who come after us and do their research will have it much easier as everything will be very readable. But of course, we know we have done all the hard work already. ..Shirley

Shirley - My first feather failed, but I have to say, I "almost" had it. I have to pay more attention to the cut. All is not lost though !!! I found another feather. The reference you provided below I think is the best I have seen so far and with that I think I can get this done to my satisfaction. If I do, I'll send you a letter, written by the quill, in the Latin scribble of old. I'll betcha that my handwriting will be clearer and more readable when compared to the little feller who sat in the corner on his high stool with a candle, conical hat, ink well and pen and scribbled up the page because he'd rather have a cold glass of wine !! Tomasz On Jul 6, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Shirley Martys wrote: > > I will not swear that this works but I have a neighbor that followed the instructions on this web site and is certain it is the only way it is done: > http://flick.com/~liralen/quills/quills.html > > I would imagine that reading all the ideas you find on the internet has been done already, but it does sound like it takes practice and maybe you would want to practice on some cheap feathers first. Good luck and let us know when the task is complete and if you are satisfied....Shirley > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marge I did finally find what I think is Catherine Jaworski on the 1930 census (good tip) in Burrows township Platte County under the spelling Janoski. She is shown as 77 on the 1930 census and, if that is her in the Sherman County Cemetery, she died in 1949 making her somewhere between 90 and 95 years of age at her death. The Sherman County burial is very plausible. I found a death date for her son in law Frank Galus for February 1964 in the SS Index. Maybe I can now search for an obit. Thanks, and I will keep looking for more confirmation. diaNE --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marge Sandlier <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:58:52 -0500 She is mentioned in the Franciscans in Nebraska http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/topic/religion/catholic/Franciscans/pages/ pt2/fine0016.htm JOHN JAWORSKI, 1841-1929 Jan Jaworski was one of the oldest settlers in the Tarnov neighborhood. He was born at Jorvnje, a short ways from Gniesno, December 5, 1841. He came to America about 1873, working near Parkersburg, West Virginia, on the railroad and in stone quarries for two years. Jan's parents, Simon Jaworski and Maryanna Kornatka Jaworski, came about a year later than their son. In July, 1877, John married Miss Anna Szawica (Savage), Fr. Sebastian Cebula performing the ceremony at Columbus. Four children were born to this union: Anthony, Sophia (Mrs. J. Sliwa), Andrew and Mary (Sister Ciotildis, O. S. Fr.). Mrs. Jaworski passed away at the age of 24, whereupon he contracted a second marriage with Miss Juliana Drozd of Tarnov. Fr. Anastase Czech blessed this union, to which were born six children: Joseph, Frank, Victoria, Fr. Stanislaus (now professor at Quincy, Illinois), Monica (Sister Cunegundis, O. S. Fr.), and Maryanna, now a trained nurse. When death again robbed Jan Jaworski of his spouse, he married the widow Mrs. Catherine Plebanek, nee Niemez, who survives her husband. I show that her daughter Catherine who married Frank GOLUS \ GALUS is buried in Sherman County: Sherman County, Nebraska, Cemeteries - St. Josaphat Cemetery http://www.rootsweb.com/~nesherma/Cemetery/stjsphts.html Golus, Catherine F. 1891 - 1964 There is a Katherine Jaworski also buried there... I don't know if this is the one you are looking for, but it might be a clue. I wonder if she might be in Sherman County for the 1930 census? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nesherma/Cemetery/stjsphts.html Jaworski, Katherine 1856 - 1949 Good luck :) -- Marge Galus Sandlier <>< [email protected] We live as long as we are remembered. --Old Russian Proverb Forget Me Not - http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sandlier/ Skype.com free internet telephony - Skype name Omaha-gal -- My Photos http://community.webshots.com/user/msandlier [email protected] wrote: > Query: > > Does anyone have any ideas about Katherine Niemiec Plebanek Jaworski and > where she went after her then husband, John Jaworski, died in 1929? > >From the marriage record, she appears to have been born circa 1860 in > Poland. > ============================================ > > Book 7 Entry #132 > > JAWORSKI, John & PLEBANEK, Katherina > 10 Feb 1903 Duncan Nebraska > > John age 60 Residing Tarnov NE Born Poland F: Simeon Jaworski M: > Marianna Kornatke? > Katherina age 45 Residing Duncan Born Poland No parents listed > ============================================= > She had one daughter I know of -- Kate Plebanek who married Frank Galus > on 19 Oct 1910. > > From: St Michael's records > 19 Oct 1910 Tarnov Nebraska > > GALUS, Frank > F: John Galus M: Lucina Jasicow > > PLEBANEK, Catherine > F: Vincent Plebanek M: Catherine NIEMIEC > ============================================= > > I see that Frank Golus and Catherine Plebanek are shown on your site, > Marge, > > but I would like to find out about her mother, Katherine Niemiec Plebanek > Jaworski.

Diane, She is mentioned in the Franciscans in Nebraska http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/topic/religion/catholic/Franciscans/pages/pt2/fine0016.htm JOHN JAWORSKI, 1841-1929 Jan Jaworski was one of the oldest settlers in the Tarnov neighborhood. He was born at Jorvnje, a short ways from Gniesno, December 5, 1841. He came to America about 1873, working near Parkersburg, West Virginia, on the railroad and in stone quarries for two years. Jan's parents, Simon Jaworski and Maryanna Kornatka Jaworski, came about a year later than their son. In July, 1877, John married Miss Anna Szawica (Savage), Fr. Sebastian Cebula performing the ceremony at Columbus. Four children were born to this union: Anthony, Sophia (Mrs. J. Sliwa), Andrew and Mary (Sister Ciotildis, O. S. Fr.). Mrs. Jaworski passed away at the age of 24, whereupon he contracted a second marriage with Miss Juliana Drozd of Tarnov. Fr. Anastase Czech blessed this union, to which were born six children: Joseph, Frank, Victoria, Fr. Stanislaus (now professor at Quincy, Illinois), Monica (Sister Cunegundis, O. S. Fr.), and Maryanna, now a trained nurse. When death again robbed Jan Jaworski of his spouse, he married the widow Mrs. Catherine Plebanek, nee Niemez, who survives her husband. I show that her daughter Catherine who married Frank GOLUS \ GALUS is buried in Sherman County: Sherman County, Nebraska, Cemeteries - St. Josaphat Cemetery http://www.rootsweb.com/~nesherma/Cemetery/stjsphts.html Golus, Catherine F. 1891 - 1964 There is a Katherine Jaworski also buried there... I don't know if this is the one you are looking for, but it might be a clue. I wonder if she might be in Sherman County for the 1930 census? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nesherma/Cemetery/stjsphts.html Jaworski, Katherine 1856 - 1949 Good luck :) -- Marge Galus Sandlier <>< [email protected] We live as long as we are remembered. --Old Russian Proverb Forget Me Not - http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sandlier/ Skype.com free internet telephony - Skype name Omaha-gal -- My Photos http://community.webshots.com/user/msandlier [email protected] wrote: > Query: > > Does anyone have any ideas about Katherine Niemiec Plebanek Jaworski and > where she went after her then husband, John Jaworski, died in 1929? > >From the marriage record, she appears to have been born circa 1860 in > Poland. > ============================================ > > Book 7 Entry #132 > > JAWORSKI, John & PLEBANEK, Katherina > 10 Feb 1903 Duncan Nebraska > > John age 60 Residing Tarnov NE Born Poland F: Simeon Jaworski M: > Marianna Kornatke? > Katherina age 45 Residing Duncan Born Poland No parents listed > ============================================= > She had one daughter I know of -- Kate Plebanek who married Frank Galus > on 19 Oct 1910. > > From: St Michael's records > 19 Oct 1910 Tarnov Nebraska > > GALUS, Frank > F: John Galus M: Lucina Jasicow > > PLEBANEK, Catherine > F: Vincent Plebanek M: Catherine NIEMIEC > ============================================= > > I see that Frank Golus and Catherine Plebanek are shown on your site, > Marge, > > but I would like to find out about her mother, Katherine Niemiec Plebanek > Jaworski. > >

Tom, Time period you wondered about -- Jarecki applied for Homestead grant in spring of 1868. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas E. Lassek" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Galacia and Prussia > > Margie May - > > A comment to your comment concerning my comment based on a comment by > Karen - (smile) > > Professor Ivor Norman Richard Davies FBA, FRHistS > http://www.normandavies.com/ makes for good reading. I see he has several > publications available and any one of them would be a treasure to own. I'm > sure he's quite correct in his analysis of the Austrian Hungarian > partition. > > In the end though, and to answer Karens question, we need a > statistical analysis of Polish immigrants, by partitioned areas, that > settled in and around Columbus Nebraska, but even then, the results may > not tell us what we need to know since she didn't mention a general time > period which could possibly have a bearing on the end result. The > immigration of Poles into the US, by general area, was not simultaneous. > Emigration from Prussia began in the 1870's and peaked around 1890, > Austrian controlled Poland began in the 1880's and from the Russian > partition in the 1890's (Bukowczyk "And my Children did not Know Me"). > > Polish emigration continues to this day - only the numbered amount, by > comparison, changes - so does the legality. > > Tomasz > > > > > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Marge Sandlier wrote: > >> Tom, >> >> A comment on your comment: >> >> I agree that the Austrian Hungarian Empire seemed to be much more >> relaxed in their treatment of the Poles in the Austrian partition, from >> what I've read. But...I've also read that Galicia was by far the >> poorest of the Partitioned Poland. The area was mostly agricultural, >> there was very little industrialization. My cousin Roman in Poland has >> also mentioned this from time to time in our chats. >> >> Some time back Roman highly recommended to me the book "God's >> Playground: A History of Poland" by Norman Davies. It is a two volume >> set...which I have not read all the way through. It is a great >> reference though. Davies writes about the Austrian Partition: >> >> Economic, social, national, cultural and political factors combined >> to aggravate the poverty in which most of the people lived. The ... >> "Galician Misery" was proverbial. A well-informed analyst, writing in >> 1887, contrived to demonstrate that rural overpopulation in Galicia had >> outstripped that in all other parts of Europe, and was approaching >> levels prevalent in China and India. According to his study, the >> cumulative effects of inefficient agricultural techniques were >> compounded by rigid, conservative attitudes, by crippling taxation, and >> by the inordinate number of unproductive petty officials; some 50,000 >> people were dying each year as a result of near-starvation conditions; >> and one-quarter of the total inhabitants could safely emigrate before >> any improvement might be expected. Of all the three Partitions, Galicia >> had the highest birth-rate and the highest death-rate, together with the >> lowest rate of demographic growth and the lowest level of >> life-expectancy. Galicia was in a worse predicament than Ireland at the >> start of the potato famine. As compared with the standard of living in >> England at that time, the average Galician produced only one-quarter of >> the quantity of basic foodstuffs, ate less than one-half of the standard >> English diet, possessed only one-ninth of the Englishman's propertied >> wealth, and received barely one-eleventh of the English farmer's return >> on his land; yet he paid twice as high a proportion of his income in >> taxes. One need not necessarily take Szczepanski's figures as gospel to >> accept the obvious conclusions. All available statistics point in the >> same direction. Galicia could fairly claim to be the poorest province >> of Europe. (Volume II, page 145) >> >> Davies goes on to write: >> >> For many peasant families, emigration offered the sole chance of >> survival. In the twenty-five years before the First World War, more >> than two million people left Galicia for good. No less than 400,000, or >> almost 5 per cent of the population, departed in 1913 alone. Some went >> to the industrial areas in Silesia, and in particular to the Duchy of >> Teschen where the Polish element in the expanding mining community at >> Karwina grew quickly into a strong majority. Others went to France or >> Germany. But most took the ship from Hamburg for America, joining the >> ceaseless tide of Europe's weary and oppressed who passed through Ellis >> Island on their way to the mines of Pennsylvania or to the frontier land >> of the mid-West. (Volume II, page 147) >> >> I imagine Davies made his comparison between the Galician population and >> those in England, because Davies is English. He is married to a Polish >> woman. One of the reasons Roman recommends this particular history, is >> because Davies is English. Therefore, Davies sees the Polish history >> from an outsider's perspective and writes with less bias than someone >> from Poland. >> >> Marge >> >> Thomas E. Lassek wrote: >>> Comment : >>> >>> >>> Another thought - I think the odd's would favor more Polish immigrants >>> firstly from Prussia than Galacia, from Russia than Glacia, from Prussia >>> than Russia. Everything that I have read over the years seems to support >>> this. Prussia always seems the worst, followed by Russia, and then >>> Galacia. Galacia was administered by the Austrian Hungarian Empire, >>> which in my opinion, are always credited with humane (more or less) >>> treatment which was carried over to occupied Polish lands. >>> >>> Tomasz >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wow! Mike, you really took my question seriously. Thank you for all your effort. I thought maybe Galacia was mostly represented in the area, but I wasn't sure. My family was Jarecki (Prussia) and Maslonka (Galacia). Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas E. Lassek" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Galacia and Prussia > Mike - > > I think you did a real good job on this. Your breakdown seems > conclusive. Again, statistics don't lie, all said and done. Any > misclassification has no bearing on the ultimate result of somewhere > around 87% of Poles being of Galician extraction in Platte County as of > 1900. > > Again, I have to say, I would not have thought that the end results > are as indicated. I would have expected most from the Prussian sector. > However, it is as it is. > > Tomasz > > > On Jul 8, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Mike Korgie wrote: > >> Probably more than you ever wanted to know ... and I'm not sure it >> answers >> Karen's question! Mike >> >> I looked at the Platte County 1900 census available by enumeration >> district >> available from the Platte County Genealogy website at: >> >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/census.html I believe the >> census transcript was completed by Ted and Carole Miller and their work >> remains very faithful to whatever the census taker wrote. I placed the >> enumeration districts together in an excel spreadsheet and standardized >> many >> of the abbreviations the census takers. There are lots of >> inconsistencies >> subject to the accuracy of the person providing the census information, >> the >> census taker, the transcription process, and now my "standardization." >> So >> please take it for what it's worth! >> >> Counting foreign-born individuals in the Platte County 1900 census . I >> see >> 629 "Polish-born" individuals with 552/87% from the Austrian (Galicia) >> partition. >> >> Poland (Austria) - 552 . 30% of which lived in Butler/Loup (Duncan), 30% >> in >> Columbus and 25% in Burrows(Tarnov) >> >> Poland (Germany) - 54 . 70% lived in Butler (Duncan) . including Martha >> and >> Rosa Lasek >> >> Poland (Prussia) - 4 . John & Barbara Krzycki, Minnie Schachtschneider >> (Columbus), John Kontor (Monroe) . Karen, was one of these families your >> relative? >> >> Poland (Russia) - 10 . W. Schachtschneider (Minnie's husband from above), >> John & Mary Montfield, John Brezynski, Mathew Allison, Joseph and Lizzie >> Metzory (all in Columbus), Frank Molak and John Jaworski (Burrows / >> Tarnov), >> Minnie Baumgart (Grandville) >> >> Poland (No Partition Given) - 9 . Joseph, John and Mike Wilcinski, John >> and >> Mary Hamater (all Columbus), Charles and Annie Brundy, James Shamak >> (Grand >> Prairie), Joseph Kros (Burrows / Tarnov) >> >> There may have been other Polish families that listed just "Austria" >> without >> specifying the Polish partition. 229 individuals listed Austria >> (without >> Poland) with big groups (91) in Columbus and Humphrey (52) >> >> The highest concentrations of Polish-born individuals (compared to other >> foreign-born nationalities) were in: Loup - 59%, Butler - 46%, >> Burrows/Tarnov - 49%, Columbus Ward 3 - 28%. So if you wanted to visit >> "Little Poland" you'd go to Duncan, Tarnov or the Southside of Columbus! >> >> By comparison the highest concentrations of German-born individuals: >> Sherman - 79%, Grandville - 76%, Bismarck - 71%, Shell Creek - 71%, >> Creston >> - 68% . Germans had much larger and more concentrated immigrant >> communities >> in 1900 Platte County. Although the foreign-born in Walker Township >> were >> 86% Scandinavian! (62% Swedish and 24% Norwegian). >> >> There were very few Prussian and Russian families: Russia - 51 with a >> big >> group (18) in Monroe, and Prussia - 22 with half (10) in St. Bernard. >> >> I only see four families where the father is Poland(Austria) and the >> Mother >> is Poland (Germany) . Bogas in Butler (Duncan), Nicholaskie and Tworek in >> Columbus, and Les in Burrows (Tarnov). Going the other direction . I see >> three families where the father is Poland (Germany) and the Mother is >> Poland >> (Austria) . Teresinski and Tworek in Columbus, Nowitzki in Butler >> (Duncan). >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Query: Does anyone have any ideas about Katherine Niemiec Plebanek Jaworski and where she went after her then husband, John Jaworski, died in 1929? >From the marriage record, she appears to have been born circa 1860 in Poland. ============================================ Book 7 Entry #132 JAWORSKI, John & PLEBANEK, Katherina 10 Feb 1903 Duncan Nebraska John age 60 Residing Tarnov NE Born Poland F: Simeon Jaworski M: Marianna Kornatke? Katherina age 45 Residing Duncan Born Poland No parents listed ============================================= She had one daughter I know of -- Kate Plebanek who married Frank Galus on 19 Oct 1910. From: St Michael's records 19 Oct 1910 Tarnov Nebraska GALUS, Frank F: John Galus M: Lucina Jasicow PLEBANEK, Catherine F: Vincent Plebanek M: Catherine NIEMIEC ============================================= I see that Frank Golus and Catherine Plebanek are shown on your site, Marge, but I would like to find out about her mother, Katherine Niemiec Plebanek Jaworski.

Hello - By chance, does anyone have any information concerning the surname FENIMORE that at one time lived in the Platte County area ??Tomasz

Mike - I think you did a real good job on this. Your breakdown seems conclusive. Again, statistics don't lie, all said and done. Any misclassification has no bearing on the ultimate result of somewhere around 87% of Poles being of Galician extraction in Platte County as of 1900. Again, I have to say, I would not have thought that the end results are as indicated. I would have expected most from the Prussian sector. However, it is as it is. Tomasz On Jul 8, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Mike Korgie wrote: > Probably more than you ever wanted to know ... and I'm not sure it answers > Karen's question! Mike > > I looked at the Platte County 1900 census available by enumeration district > available from the Platte County Genealogy website at: > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/census.html I believe the > census transcript was completed by Ted and Carole Miller and their work > remains very faithful to whatever the census taker wrote. I placed the > enumeration districts together in an excel spreadsheet and standardized many > of the abbreviations the census takers. There are lots of inconsistencies > subject to the accuracy of the person providing the census information, the > census taker, the transcription process, and now my "standardization." So > please take it for what it's worth! > > Counting foreign-born individuals in the Platte County 1900 census . I see > 629 "Polish-born" individuals with 552/87% from the Austrian (Galicia) > partition. > > Poland (Austria) - 552 . 30% of which lived in Butler/Loup (Duncan), 30% in > Columbus and 25% in Burrows(Tarnov) > > Poland (Germany) - 54 . 70% lived in Butler (Duncan) . including Martha and > Rosa Lasek > > Poland (Prussia) - 4 . John & Barbara Krzycki, Minnie Schachtschneider > (Columbus), John Kontor (Monroe) . Karen, was one of these families your > relative? > > Poland (Russia) - 10 . W. Schachtschneider (Minnie's husband from above), > John & Mary Montfield, John Brezynski, Mathew Allison, Joseph and Lizzie > Metzory (all in Columbus), Frank Molak and John Jaworski (Burrows / Tarnov), > Minnie Baumgart (Grandville) > > Poland (No Partition Given) - 9 . Joseph, John and Mike Wilcinski, John and > Mary Hamater (all Columbus), Charles and Annie Brundy, James Shamak (Grand > Prairie), Joseph Kros (Burrows / Tarnov) > > There may have been other Polish families that listed just "Austria" without > specifying the Polish partition. 229 individuals listed Austria (without > Poland) with big groups (91) in Columbus and Humphrey (52) > > The highest concentrations of Polish-born individuals (compared to other > foreign-born nationalities) were in: Loup - 59%, Butler - 46%, > Burrows/Tarnov - 49%, Columbus Ward 3 - 28%. So if you wanted to visit > "Little Poland" you'd go to Duncan, Tarnov or the Southside of Columbus! > > By comparison the highest concentrations of German-born individuals: > Sherman - 79%, Grandville - 76%, Bismarck - 71%, Shell Creek - 71%, Creston > - 68% . Germans had much larger and more concentrated immigrant communities > in 1900 Platte County. Although the foreign-born in Walker Township were > 86% Scandinavian! (62% Swedish and 24% Norwegian). > > There were very few Prussian and Russian families: Russia - 51 with a big > group (18) in Monroe, and Prussia - 22 with half (10) in St. Bernard. > > I only see four families where the father is Poland(Austria) and the Mother > is Poland (Germany) . Bogas in Butler (Duncan), Nicholaskie and Tworek in > Columbus, and Les in Burrows (Tarnov). Going the other direction . I see > three families where the father is Poland (Germany) and the Mother is Poland > (Austria) . Teresinski and Tworek in Columbus, Nowitzki in Butler (Duncan). > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thought this may be of interest to some. Tomasz Begin forwarded message: > From: Ruth Susmarski <[email protected]> > Date: July 8, 2011 9:03:08 AM CDT > To: Polish Chicago <[email protected]>, Cook County <[email protected]>, Van Buren County <[email protected]>, Will County <[email protected]>, Milwaukee County <[email protected]>, NY Erie County <[email protected]> > Subject: [CHICAGO-POLISH] New Poznan Research Database > > For those of you researching the Poznan region of Poland, here is a new (at least new to me!) database. This is not the Poznan Marriage Project. > > http://www.basia.famula.pl/en/ > > Type in the surname you are researching and hit ENTER. If you get a map with colored "pins" on it, click them for results. > > Results with a green background are births (urodzenia); with a blue/lavender background are deaths (zgonu); and with a pink background are marriages (malzenstaw). The box with the green bar by each entry indicates the likeliness of a match. > > Good luck, > Ruth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey Mike - Yes, very surprising I would say, especially at the 85 percentile level. That's almost total. A documented 85%, for all practical purposes, rules out virtually any and all errors in calculation. In the end, the majority of Poles then were from Galacia. I would have bet otherwise, so then I must be incorrect. My LASEK Family, an apparent "outsider", has it's roots in Prussia. I think "Prussia" and "Germany" below should probably be combined into "Prussia". There may well be Families that indeed were from Germany proper, but at the 85% level, it doesn't make any difference I would think. From the occupied Polish lands then, I think that "Prussia" would be the correct term, moreso than "German". If you find more statistics I'd appreciate a post Mike. Tomasz On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:47 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Birds of a feather flock together…. the 1900 Platte County Census enumerated Poland with Austria, Germany, Prussia and Russia distinctions … same with Canada (English, French, Irish, Scot). > > I’ll have to dig into it to get more specific numbers … but at first look the native-Polish population in 1900 Platte County was 85% from the Austrian partition (Galicia). Does anyone here have any Polish ancestors from the Prussian or Russian partitions? The German partition may also be called Prussia. > > Also, there may be less than 10-20 families in 1900 where the Father and Mother were from different partitions. > > Surprising? Mike >

Probably more than you ever wanted to know ... and I'm not sure it answers Karen's question! Mike I looked at the Platte County 1900 census available by enumeration district available from the Platte County Genealogy website at: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/census.html I believe the census transcript was completed by Ted and Carole Miller and their work remains very faithful to whatever the census taker wrote. I placed the enumeration districts together in an excel spreadsheet and standardized many of the abbreviations the census takers. There are lots of inconsistencies subject to the accuracy of the person providing the census information, the census taker, the transcription process, and now my "standardization." So please take it for what it's worth! Counting foreign-born individuals in the Platte County 1900 census . I see 629 "Polish-born" individuals with 552/87% from the Austrian (Galicia) partition. Poland (Austria) - 552 . 30% of which lived in Butler/Loup (Duncan), 30% in Columbus and 25% in Burrows(Tarnov) Poland (Germany) - 54 . 70% lived in Butler (Duncan) . including Martha and Rosa Lasek Poland (Prussia) - 4 . John & Barbara Krzycki, Minnie Schachtschneider (Columbus), John Kontor (Monroe) . Karen, was one of these families your relative? Poland (Russia) - 10 . W. Schachtschneider (Minnie's husband from above), John & Mary Montfield, John Brezynski, Mathew Allison, Joseph and Lizzie Metzory (all in Columbus), Frank Molak and John Jaworski (Burrows / Tarnov), Minnie Baumgart (Grandville) Poland (No Partition Given) - 9 . Joseph, John and Mike Wilcinski, John and Mary Hamater (all Columbus), Charles and Annie Brundy, James Shamak (Grand Prairie), Joseph Kros (Burrows / Tarnov) There may have been other Polish families that listed just "Austria" without specifying the Polish partition. 229 individuals listed Austria (without Poland) with big groups (91) in Columbus and Humphrey (52) The highest concentrations of Polish-born individuals (compared to other foreign-born nationalities) were in: Loup - 59%, Butler - 46%, Burrows/Tarnov - 49%, Columbus Ward 3 - 28%. So if you wanted to visit "Little Poland" you'd go to Duncan, Tarnov or the Southside of Columbus! By comparison the highest concentrations of German-born individuals: Sherman - 79%, Grandville - 76%, Bismarck - 71%, Shell Creek - 71%, Creston - 68% . Germans had much larger and more concentrated immigrant communities in 1900 Platte County. Although the foreign-born in Walker Township were 86% Scandinavian! (62% Swedish and 24% Norwegian). There were very few Prussian and Russian families: Russia - 51 with a big group (18) in Monroe, and Prussia - 22 with half (10) in St. Bernard. I only see four families where the father is Poland(Austria) and the Mother is Poland (Germany) . Bogas in Butler (Duncan), Nicholaskie and Tworek in Columbus, and Les in Burrows (Tarnov). Going the other direction . I see three families where the father is Poland (Germany) and the Mother is Poland (Austria) . Teresinski and Tworek in Columbus, Nowitzki in Butler (Duncan).

Wow, thanks, Marge The family that Josie Gusik's son, Charley, was living with on the 1930 census would be Anthony and Constance (Siemek) Koziol. Constance would be the sister to Josie Siemek Gusik Koziol. Just as a reminder here: they are daughters of George Siemek and Constancia Czarnik Siemek. ? How many variations does that make for --Gusic -- Gusik -- Gusek -- Gussick diaNE ================================================= On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:59:37 -0500 Marge Sandlier <[email protected]> writes: [email protected] wrote: Query: Does anyone know what happened to Josephine Siemek Gusic Koziol after 1930?. ==================================================== > > > Diane, I haven't found Josephine, but here are some bits and pieces I found while looking for her. In the 1910 census Joe and Josie GUSIK were in Nance County: 1910 U.S. Census, Nebraska, Nance County, Prairie Creek Township, ED 162, sheet 6A, 7-10 May 1910 Dwelling 103, family 103 Gusik, Joe, head, age 25, married once, married 6 years, born Aust Poland, parents born Aust Poland, immigrated 1895, naturalized, farmer, home farm Gusik, Josie, wife, age 19, married once, married 6 years, mother of 0 children, born Nebraska, parents born Aust Poland Joseph's World War I registration has them living in Cedar Rapids in Boone County: World War I draft registration, 12 Sep 1918 Joseph Michael Gusek Rt 3, Cedar Rapids, Boone County (sic), Nebraska Age 35, born Sept 8, 1883 Naturalized citizen Farming, Greeley, Nebraska Nearest relative: Mrs. Josie Gusik, Rt3, Cedar Rapids, Greeley, Nebraska (Cedar Rapids is in Boone County, Nebraska) In 1920 they were in Greeley County, NE: 1920 U.S. Census, Nebraska, Greeley County, Logan Precinct, ED 138, sheet 1B, 22 & 23, January 1920 Farm, dwelling 24, family 25 Gusek, Joe M., head, age 37 (abt 1883), married, immigrated 1899, naturalized 1916 (1906?), born Poland, parents born Poland, farmer, general farm Gusek, Josie, wife, age 27 (abt 1893), married, born Nebraska, parents born Poland > Gusek, Charlie, son, age 7, single, born Nebraska, father born Poland, mother born Nebraska Gusek, Alfred, son, age 5, single, born Nebraska, father born Poland, mother born Nebraska Gusek, Leo, son age 2 1/12, single, born Nebraska, father born Poland, mother born Nebraska In 1930 Josie was enumerated with 2nd husband Joe Koziol and his children...none of her children were with them. They were in Nance County, Beaver Township. Son Charlie (Stanley) in the 1930 census, living with a KOZAL family in Boone County, NE: 1930 U.S. census, Boone County, Roselma Precinct, ED 17, sheet 2B, 13 May 1930 Dwelling 36, family 36 Kozal, Anton, head, age 39, married, age 21 when first married, born Nebraska, parents born Poland, farmer, general farm Kozal, Stavey, wife, age 35, married, age 17 when first married, born Nebraska, parenst born Poland Kozal, Rosa, daughter, age 14, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Kozal, Elizabeth, daughter, age 12, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Kozal, Carl, son, age 10, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Kozal, Barbara, daughter, age 8, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Kozal, Leo, son, age 6, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Kozal, Irine, daughter, age 4, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Kozal, Regina, daughter, age 2, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Gusik, Charles, lodger, age 17, single, born Nebraska, father born Poland, mother born Nebraska, laborer, general farm These appear to be the 3 GUSIC sons in the Soc. Sec. Death Index http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi : GUSSICK, STANLEY, born 21 Mar 1912, died Jan 1981, age 68, last residence on record 66090 (Wathena, Doniphan, KS), last benefit (none specified), issued Nebraska, SSN 508-03-0545 GUSSICK, ALFONC, born 26 May 1914, died Dec 1977, age 63, last residence on record 95718 (California), last benefit 95718, issued Nebraska, SSN 506-09-7595 GUSSICK, LEO, born 20 Apr 1917, died Apr 1973, age 55-56, last residence on record 97459 (North Bend, Coos, OR), last benefit (none specified), issued Nebraska, SSN 508-01-2717 Here's the Oregon death index entry for Leo Oregon Death Index, 1903-98, Ancestry.com Name: Gussick, Leo The County: Coos Death Date: 25 Apr 1973 Certificate: 73-05669 Age: 56 Birth Date: Apr 1917 Spouse: Mary Here's the California death index entry for Alfred / Alfonc http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ca/death/search.cgi : California Death Records GUSSICK, ALFONC P., born 05/26/1914, Male, birthplace NEBRASKA, death place NEVADA County, California, date of death 12/05/1977, SSN 506-09-7595, age 63 yrs -- Marge Galus Sandlier <>< [email protected] We live as long as we are remembered. --Old Russian Proverb Forget Me Not - http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sandlier/ Skype.com free internet telephony - Skype name Omaha-gal -- My Photos http://community.webshots.com/user/msandlier

Good going, Mike Korgie! Remember you saying that your great grand went back to Poland to recruit others for the railroad. That WAS you, wasn't it? Yes, birds of a feather do flock together, at least initially. The other day I watched a CNN special on people getting their citizenship and when the reporter asked one group from Iraq how they got to one state, the new citizen said: "I don't know. These guys were here already." (pointing to his fellow Iraqis) The railroad and mines were a big draw, but the RR had a twofer. Excess land for $1 an acre!!!!!!! KathyB ____________________________________________________________ 57 Year Old Mom Looks 27! Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e15f7fa725132a0aafst04duc

[email protected] wrote: > Query: Does anyone know what happened to Josephine Siemek Gusic Koziol > after 1930?. > ==================================================== > Diane, I haven't found Josephine, but here are some bits and pieces I found while looking for her. In the 1910 census Joe and Josie GUSIK were in Nance County: 1910 U.S. Census, Nebraska, Nance County, Prairie Creek Township, ED 162, sheet 6A, 7-10 May 1910 Dwelling 103, family 103 Gusik, Joe, head, age 25, married once, married 6 years, born Aust Poland, parents born Aust Poland, immigrated 1895, naturalized, farmer, home farm Gusik, Josie, wife, age 19, married once, married 6 years, mother of 0 children, born Nebraska, parents born Aust Poland Joseph's World War I registration has them living in Cedar Rapids in Boone County: World War I draft registration, 12 Sep 1918 Joseph Michael Gusek Rt 3, Cedar Rapids, Boone County (sic), Nebraska Age 35, born Sept 8, 1883 Naturalized citizen Farming, Greeley, Nebraska Nearest relative: Mrs. Josie Gusik, Rt3, Cedar Rapids, Greeley, Nebraska (Cedar Rapids is in Boone County, Nebraska) In 1920 they were in Greeley County, NE: 1920 U.S. Census, Nebraska, Greeley County, Logan Precinct, ED 138, sheet 1B, 22 & 23, January 1920 Farm, dwelling 24, family 25 Gusek, Joe M., head, age 37 (abt 1883), married, immigrated 1899, naturalized 1916 (1906?), born Poland, parents born Poland, farmer, general farm Gusek, Josie, wife, age 27 (abt 1893), married, born Nebraska, parents born Poland Gusek, Charlie, son, age 7, single, born Nebraska, father born Poland, mother born Nebraska Gusek, Alfred, son, age 5, single, born Nebraska, father born Poland, mother born Nebraska Gusek, Leo, son age 2 1/12, single, born Nebraska, father born Poland, mother born Nebraska In 1930 Josie was enumerated with 2nd husband Joe Koziol and his children...none of her children were with them. They were in Nance County, Beaver Township. Son Charlie (Stanley) in the 1930 census, living with a KOZAL family in Boone County, NE: 1930 U.S. census, Boone County, Roselma Precinct, ED 17, sheet 2B, 13 May 1930 Dwelling 36, family 36 Kozal, Anton, head, age 39, married, age 21 when first married, born Nebraska, parents born Poland, farmer, general farm Kozal, Stavey, wife, age 35, married, age 17 when first married, born Nebraska, parenst born Poland Kozal, Rosa, daughter, age 14, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Kozal, Elizabeth, daughter, age 12, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Kozal, Carl, son, age 10, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Kozal, Barbara, daughter, age 8, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Kozal, Leo, son, age 6, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Kozal, Irine, daughter, age 4, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Kozal, Regina, daughter, age 2, single, born Nebraska, parents born Nebraska Gusik, Charles, lodger, age 17, single, born Nebraska, father born Poland, mother born Nebraska, laborer, general farm These appear to be the 3 GUSIC sons in the Soc. Sec. Death Index http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi : GUSSICK, STANLEY, born 21 Mar 1912, died Jan 1981, age 68, last residence on record 66090 (Wathena, Doniphan, KS), last benefit (none specified), issued Nebraska, SSN 508-03-0545 GUSSICK, ALFONC, born 26 May 1914, died Dec 1977, age 63, last residence on record 95718 (California), last benefit 95718, issued Nebraska, SSN 506-09-7595 GUSSICK, LEO, born 20 Apr 1917, died Apr 1973, age 55-56, last residence on record 97459 (North Bend, Coos, OR), last benefit (none specified), issued Nebraska, SSN 508-01-2717 Here's the Oregon death index entry for Leo Oregon Death Index, 1903-98, Ancestry.com Name: Gussick, Leo The County: Coos Death Date: 25 Apr 1973 Certificate: 73-05669 Age: 56 Birth Date: Apr 1917 Spouse: Mary Here's the California death index entry for Alfred / Alfonc http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ca/death/search.cgi : California Death Records GUSSICK, ALFONC P., born 05/26/1914, Male, birthplace NEBRASKA, death place NEVADA County, California, date of death 12/05/1977, SSN 506-09-7595, age 63 yrs -- Marge Galus Sandlier <>< [email protected] We live as long as we are remembered. --Old Russian Proverb Forget Me Not - http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sandlier/ Skype.com free internet telephony - Skype name Omaha-gal -- My Photos http://community.webshots.com/user/msandlier

Hi Mike, In answer to your question "Does anyone here have any Polish ancestors from the Prussian or Russian partitions? The German partition may also be called Prussia." I don't...my Prussian born Platte County ancestors (THOMAS / SCHNECK families) were from Pommern, not too far east of Stettin / Szczecin and they considered themselves German. I haven't been able to trace the family back to Germany, but it does appear that the early folks in this village were colonists and migrated from west of Stettin, and prior to that from somewhere in Germany. It looks like the Prussian Poles were farther to the east and southeast of Stettin. Some of my distant cousins in Chicago had Polish Prussian relatives from the Posen area. -- Marge Galus Sandlier <>< [email protected] We live as long as we are remembered. --Old Russian Proverb Forget Me Not - http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sandlier/ Skype.com free internet telephony - Skype name Omaha-gal -- My Photos http://community.webshots.com/user/msandlier [email protected] wrote: > Birds of a feather flock together.... the 1900 Platte County Census enumerated Poland with Austria, Germany, Prussia and Russia distinctions ... same with Canada (English, French, Irish, Scot). > > I'll have to dig into it to get more specific numbers ... but at first look the native-Polish population in 1900 Platte County was 85% from the Austrian partition (Galicia). Does anyone here have any Polish ancestors from the Prussian or Russian partitions? The German partition may also be called Prussia. > > Also, there may be less than 10-20 families in 1900 where the Father and Mother were from different partitions. > > Surprising? Mike >

Birds of a feather flock together…. the 1900 Platte County Census enumerated Poland with Austria, Germany, Prussia and Russia distinctions … same with Canada (English, French, Irish, Scot). I’ll have to dig into it to get more specific numbers … but at first look the native-Polish population in 1900 Platte County was 85% from the Austrian partition (Galicia). Does anyone here have any Polish ancestors from the Prussian or Russian partitions? The German partition may also be called Prussia. Also, there may be less than 10-20 families in 1900 where the Father and Mother were from different partitions. Surprising? Mike -----Original Message----- >From: "Thomas E. Lassek" <[email protected]> >Sent: Jul 6, 2011 9:47 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Galacia and Prussia > > >Margie May - > > A comment to your comment concerning my comment based on a comment by Karen - (smile) > > Professor Ivor Norman Richard Davies FBA, FRHistS http://www.normandavies.com/ makes for good reading. I see he has several publications available and any one of them would be a treasure to own. I'm sure he's quite correct in his analysis of the Austrian Hungarian partition. > > In the end though, and to answer Karens question, we need a statistical analysis of Polish immigrants, by partitioned areas, that settled in and around Columbus Nebraska, but even then, the results may not tell us what we need to know since she didn't mention a general time period which could possibly have a bearing on the end result. The immigration of Poles into the US, by general area, was not simultaneous. Emigration from Prussia began in the 1870's and peaked around 1890, Austrian controlled Poland began in the 1880's and from the Russian partition in the 1890's (Bukowczyk "And my Children did not Know Me"). > > Polish emigration continues to this day - only the numbered amount, by comparison, changes - so does the legality. > >Tomasz > > > > > >On Jul 5, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Marge Sandlier wrote: > >> Tom, >> >> A comment on your comment: >> >> I agree that the Austrian Hungarian Empire seemed to be much more >> relaxed in their treatment of the Poles in the Austrian partition, from >> what I've read. But...I've also read that Galicia was by far the >> poorest of the Partitioned Poland. The area was mostly agricultural, >> there was very little industrialization. My cousin Roman in Poland has >> also mentioned this from time to time in our chats. >> >> Some time back Roman highly recommended to me the book "God's >> Playground: A History of Poland" by Norman Davies. It is a two volume >> set...which I have not read all the way through. It is a great >> reference though. Davies writes about the Austrian Partition: >> >> Economic, social, national, cultural and political factors combined >> to aggravate the poverty in which most of the people lived. The ... >> "Galician Misery" was proverbial. A well-informed analyst, writing in >> 1887, contrived to demonstrate that rural overpopulation in Galicia had >> outstripped that in all other parts of Europe, and was approaching >> levels prevalent in China and India. According to his study, the >> cumulative effects of inefficient agricultural techniques were >> compounded by rigid, conservative attitudes, by crippling taxation, and >> by the inordinate number of unproductive petty officials; some 50,000 >> people were dying each year as a result of near-starvation conditions; >> and one-quarter of the total inhabitants could safely emigrate before >> any improvement might be expected. Of all the three Partitions, Galicia >> had the highest birth-rate and the highest death-rate, together with the >> lowest rate of demographic growth and the lowest level of >> life-expectancy. Galicia was in a worse predicament than Ireland at the >> start of the potato famine. As compared with the standard of living in >> England at that time, the average Galician produced only one-quarter of >> the quantity of basic foodstuffs, ate less than one-half of the standard >> English diet, possessed only one-ninth of the Englishman's propertied >> wealth, and received barely one-eleventh of the English farmer's return >> on his land; yet he paid twice as high a proportion of his income in >> taxes. One need not necessarily take Szczepanski's figures as gospel to >> accept the obvious conclusions. All available statistics point in the >> same direction. Galicia could fairly claim to be the poorest province >> of Europe. (Volume II, page 145) >> >> Davies goes on to write: >> >> For many peasant families, emigration offered the sole chance of >> survival. In the twenty-five years before the First World War, more >> than two million people left Galicia for good. No less than 400,000, or >> almost 5 per cent of the population, departed in 1913 alone. Some went >> to the industrial areas in Silesia, and in particular to the Duchy of >> Teschen where the Polish element in the expanding mining community at >> Karwina grew quickly into a strong majority. Others went to France or >> Germany. But most took the ship from Hamburg for America, joining the >> ceaseless tide of Europe's weary and oppressed who passed through Ellis >> Island on their way to the mines of Pennsylvania or to the frontier land >> of the mid-West. (Volume II, page 147) >> >> I imagine Davies made his comparison between the Galician population and >> those in England, because Davies is English. He is married to a Polish >> woman. One of the reasons Roman recommends this particular history, is >> because Davies is English. Therefore, Davies sees the Polish history >> from an outsider's perspective and writes with less bias than someone >> from Poland. >> >> Marge >> >> Thomas E. Lassek wrote: >>> Comment : >>> >>> >>> Another thought - I think the odd's would favor more Polish immigrants firstly from Prussia than Galacia, from Russia than Glacia, from Prussia than Russia. Everything that I have read over the years seems to support this. Prussia always seems the worst, followed by Russia, and then Galacia. Galacia was administered by the Austrian Hungarian Empire, which in my opinion, are always credited with humane (more or less) treatment which was carried over to occupied Polish lands. >>> >>> Tomasz >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Query: Does anyone know what happened to Josephine Siemek Gusic Koziol after 1930?. ==================================================== P. 399 Nance county marriages. 22 Feb 1909 GUSIK, Joseph 23 born Austria residence Nance County Parents: Mike Gusik and Katie Hansel SHIMEK, Josephine age 17 born Nebraska residence Nance County Parents: George Shimek and Cora Czarnik (Constance Czarnik) I have never found the burial of Joe Gusik. He was supposed to have died 'in an elevator' when he was about 42 about the year 1928. The children I have listed are Stanley Gusic born circa 1913, Al Gusic born circa 1914, Leo Gusic born circa 1917 and Irene Gusic. ==================================================== Marriage Record Book 5 Page 603 Nance County marriages KOZIOL, Joseph age 40 born ? Polk County Nebraska ? residing Nance County Nebraska occupation farmer Parents: John Koziol and Anna Breck (Bryg/Brygg) GUSIEK, Josephine age 37 born Nance County Nebraska residing Nance County Nebraska Parents: George Schemek and Catherine (Constance) Czarnik Both widowed, second marriage both Witnesses: D. W. Gainey of Schuyler, Nebr. and Mary E. Gainey of Schuyler (Joe's sister and bro in law) ===================================================== [email protected] wrote: Query: Does anyone know what happened to Josephine Siemek Gusic Koziol after 1930?. Josephine, the daughter of George Siemek and Constance Czarnik, was born 7 June 1891. She first married Joe Gusic on 22 Feb 1909 in Nance County, Nebraska. They had four children: Stanley Gusic born circa 1913, Al Gusic borncirca 1914, Leo Gusic born circa 1917 and Irene Gusic born after 1920. On 23 April 1930, she married Joseph Koziol born 16 April 1889. He was the son of John Koziol and Anna Bryg. Joseph Koziol had been previously been married on 4 Nov 1908 to Josie Torczon and they had about nine children together. After seven weeks of marriage to Josephine Siemek Gusic, Joseph Koziol died 23 April 1930 at St. Edward, Nebraska and is buried with his first wife at Tarnov. diaNE