---------- > From: vincent-paez <marie-francoise.vincent-paez@wanadoo.fr> > To: VTCALEDO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [VTCALEDO-L] I search for my father Richard GRAY. Could you help me ? > Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 2:26 PM > > > I am french. > I have recently learned that I am Franco-American. > My name is Claude Richard and I live in the southern part of France. > > The circumstances surrounding my birth were concealed from me until > recently. > > My father is Richard Gray and this is what I know about him: > >        1. He was in Oran, Algeria, during few months until end November, > 1943 . >        2. He may well have been in the US Army. His provisional camp > was not near the harbor or the airport. >        3. He was almost 6 feet, with light brown hair, and blue eyes. >        4. His military base was situated southeast of Oran, between the > Choupot area and the Cuvelier area (near Cite Petit). A road > separated the base from a big Algerian market hall. >        5. His dress uniform was a khaki jacket made of silky cloth. He had > a cap and wore high shoes and gaiters. > 6. My father was an "MP" (military police). >        7. His friends called him Dick and he had a friend called Mike. >        8. He apparently came back to the States, it seems before the end > of the war. > 9. He was in Oran until around 15 November - beginning December > 1943. > He came back in Oran : he had a few days'leave at the end of > December 1943. > > > Last day I saw my uncle (my mother's brother) and he has remembered that, > in Oran at that time, rolling stock (jeep, truck, motor-driven, etc..except > tank or plane) were unloaded in Oran (Oran harbor or Mers El Kebir harbor) > then conveyed to the camp where was my father in Oran. This rolling stock > were conveyed (by boat) from US in separate pieces. In this camp, there was > a very large shed (named Les Halles) where american soldiers and french > men re-assembled rolling stock. > In my uncle's opinion, they were around 4.000 - 5.000 soldiers in this > camp. My father was MP in this camp. > > I have tried to find my father without success. > The results of my research are condensed below. > In the fall of 1943, an American soldier named Richard Gray, between 19 > and 23, was based at Oran in Algeria. > > There he met a young woman, my mother Lucienne Martin, 17 years old. > They became very fond of each other and planned to be married. Richard > received wedding dress photos from his sister who lived in the U.S. > At the end of 1943 (end november or beginning december) Richard Gray was > transfered to another, unknown to me, place to continue the war. > He should have been informed by mail of my birth, probably in September, > 1944. This story might be common place, but some troubling, complicating > events intervened in this love story. > Richard wrote often to my mother during the war and after he returned to > the US. > He said that he wanted to marry her; he expressed it in his letters. > > Unfortunately, my grandmother intercepted and destroyed all of his > letters. > She did not want this marriage to take place - > it would mean that her daughter and grandson would move to the USA. > > I recently learned in March, 1998, from my mother the circumstances > surrounding my birth. During this 54 year period, my mother thought she > had been deserted, in a cowardly manner, by her fiance . > To be deserted pregnant at a tender age was very difficult. > > I made several inquiries in my family in 1998 and I began to learn several > things from an aunt. > Before her death in 1977, my grandmother confided to my aunt that she had > destroyed all correspondence between them as well as a few papers > belonging to my mother. > While she never knew Richard Gray, the account of my aunt was a good one > and all of her explanations were later verified. > In September, 1998 I finally learned the truth to my mother (the > destroying of letters). > > The burdening facts that she was a deserted woman and an unmarried mother > were out and, at that time, she told me my father's name. The passing > years and the efforts to forget have resulted in fading memories. > > I have created this site, attempting to look for my father. Here I have > placed a photo of my mother at that time. > > I have written lot of emails to Gray Families who have adress email on the > web. > > I continue to use all the opportunities of the internet in my search. > The surname Gray is a very common one in the US. > If Richard Gray can be located, if he wishes, he will be able to contact > me. I only want to know if he is alive, any details of my American family, > and if he has been informed of my search. > > It's VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW the name of his Army. > Is there a veteran who was in Oran during the WWW II and would answer me ? > > Please excuse me for any improprieties. > I would like very much to find him still living > If you have no knowledge of my father, if you could forward this > request to veterans , and ask them to do the same, > > Thank you very much for all your help. > > Yours sincerely, > > Mr. Claude Richard PAEZ > Allee du Vent d'Est - Les Vautes N° 7 > 83320 - Carqueiranne - FRANCE > phone : +33 4 94 58 75 09 > My Story site : http://aa-ienet.com/RICHARD.htm > e-mail : marie-francoise.vincent-paez@wanadoo.fr > > ******************************************************* > Thank you your help. > > > WHAT I HAVE MADE > > I subscribe to lot of veterans web site, missing persons, forums, > genealogics sites, all sites Army, news, shows, etc .. > I or lot of people have inserted my letter to all sites. > Without my father birth date, it's difficult to write from the all > families who have an Richard Gray dead. > I don't have more informations about my father. > > > COULD YOU HELP ME ? > > > Only : I ask you to forward my letter to people you know, and ask them to > do the same, it is possible that this message will eventually reach some > one with knowledge of my father > > I have tried all the solutions, it is the last attempt to find my father > or my Gray family > > ***************************************************************

BAKER Johnson Co., IA --> Furnas Co., NE ZIKE/ZEUCH Hesse-Kassel, Germany (Hessian soldier) --> Jessamine Co., Ky --> McLean Co., IL --> Johnson Co., IA --> Furnas Co., NE

Linda, What year was this application filed? I have an application for a woman in her late 60's. She was living with her daughter & son-in-law when he applied for a job at the ordnance plant. She had to get a SocSec number so he could clear security to work at the plant. LaWanda

OK, good idea, and I left off the surnames the first time around, too: DURYEE: Long Island, NY-->Dawson Co. NE (married in Cheyenne Co. NE) CONLIN: Co. Kildare, IRL-->CAN-->Otoe Co. NE-->Dawson Co., NE MALLOY: Same SMITH: IRL-->OH-->IA-->Cass Co., NE-->Dawson Co., NE DUNWELL: MA/NY-->OH-->IA-->Cass Co., NE-->Dawson Co., NE SHOAF: VA-->Cass Co., NE (remarried as Taggert) WILEY: VA-->MO-->IA-->Cass Co., NE-->Dawson Co., NE CRAIG: KY-->OH-->IL-->Cass Co., NE-->Dawson Co., NE COUSINS: OH/KY-->IL-->Cass Co., NE-->Dawson Co., NE BAILEY: IN-->IL-->Cass Co., NE-->Dawson Co., NE Hope to link up with someone! Judy

Hi, Does anyone on this list live in Hartington, Nebraska? I am researching the LUBELEY family of the mid 1800's. They may be mentioned in a history book for that city. Thanks Brian Van Avermaete

I find this site entertaining and helpful pertaining to genealogy research. I'm new at all of this (genealogy and computers). I just joined the ARMSTRONG and BAILEY rootsweb sites yesterday. I've seen more "junk" in my mail box in 24 hours than I every could have expected. Comparison shopping definitely gives one perspective. I haven't contributed much yet, but certainly am encouraged by the quality of focus on research methods that I observe within this group. There is much to be learned here....mostly, that genealogy research is a vehicle for expanding my knowledge in paths that I never expected. I have a professional genealogist friend, who has a website and "all that stuff." One of her lectures at the NE State Genealogical Society a few years ago was entitled Migration Patterns. Knowing these patterns is one of the essentials of the task we are engaged in. For sundry reasons, our ancestors often migrated with relatives, friends, religious groups, etc. These movements are sometimes the only clue for finding an elusive line. I appreciate the work you all do in making this site pertinent. Jane Tierney

My family immigration WAGNER: Born: Altlietzegoricke, county Koingsberg, province Brandenberg, Kingdom Prussia Germany 2 July 1844 Left Hamburg, Germany for America 26 September 1844 Arrived in New York 16 October 1844 Arrived at Dodge/Jefferson County Wisconsin 23 May 1866 Left Wisconsin for Nebraska 12 July 1866 Arrived at Madison County Nebraska and homesteaded Not all WAGNERS left Wisconsin - most of them stayed in Dodge/Jefferson Countys and lived around Lebanon, Ixonia, and Watertown area. Diane Dietl dfdietl@eta.k12.mn.us

PLAMBECK - Schleswig-Holstein Germany>Will Co, ILL>Saunders Co., NE>Adams Co., NE WUTHRICH - Switzerland>Saunders Co., NE JACOBITZ- West Prussia Germany>Adams Co., NE KARNATZ-Pommern Germany>Jewell Co., KS>Clay Co., NE ERICKSON- Östergotland Sweden>Henry Co., ILL>Clay Co., NE BENGTSDOTTER-Skåne Sweden>Clay Co., NE (NILSSON) PETERSON-Önnestad Sweden>Clay Co., NE

My grt grt uncle Edgar Beghtel was born in WABASH COUNTY INDIANA When his parents decided to go to IOWA cir. 1883, he was single and went with them. ( I was so glad when I discovered they had a young'un to go along.) He must have first gone to GUTHRIE COUNTY IOWA with them but then he married Hettie Stewart in WARREN COUNTY IOWA. It appears they settled in FURNAS COUNTY NEBRASKA and finally in RED WILLOW COUNTY where there appears to have been a lot of Stewarts. Hettie died cir. 1899 and he had a second wife. Two of his three sons left NEBRASKA and went to CALIFORNIA. Thanks to the Nebraska Web for helping me find this history of Edgar, the last of that generation of our family who was still an 'orphan'. Now we know what happened to them all! Our NEBRASKA connection took a while but was probably the most exciting as it was the last child to locate. We wonder if his third son, CHANNIE BEGHTEL might still have descendants in NEBRASKA. EDGAR BEGHTEL lived in the southwestern corner of the state long enough that it seems there should be something more about his life written in a history of the area. Jane

Barbara Archer wrote: > Judy's post raises an interesting question. Should we include the > migration for the family, or just for the individuals who actually > reached Nebraska? I have been including more than one generation, going > back to the immigrant ancestors who were long gone by the time their > descendants arrived in NE. Do you just want the birthplace for the > individuals who ended up in NE? > > Thanks, > Barbara I think it's appropriate to include the total pattern for their route across the US and the generations. Each place they stayed for awhile gives us a better chance to find some evidence that they've left behind. A hundred or two hundred years ago, it wasn't unknown for several families or whole villages to pack up and move west together. That's why knowing some history of each area can be valuable in our research. If we know that a disaster caused many people to move on, and they moved together, then we might have a better chance of knowing where they ended up together. Many communities in Nebraska were settled by ethnic or religious groups that traveled together. If all we have as a clue, is that our ancestor came from a specific location, before Nebraska, and we know they were a member of a specific group, then perhaps knowing where some of those people settled in Nebraska would help to narrow our research. I've discovered that my Wilson line moved several times, along with at least two other unrelated families. We're trying to trace all the families in the time period between the time they landed in the US, to their arrival in Illinois, hoping to find more information on them. Connie

In a message dated 2/5/99 5:11:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, jtierney@nponline.net writes: << For sundry reasons, our ancestors often migrated with relatives, friends, religious groups, etc. >> Hi Jane and welcome to the List. Yes this List is made up of a special group of people. Your comment about ancestors travelling in groups is quite valid. Once I learned this and started making note of neighbors of my ancestors it certainly moved my research along. Whether I was looking line by line at a census record, deed indexes or whatever, once I started finding the neighbors I knew I was close to finding my ancestors too. So many of my female ancestors married the neighbor's sons. Keeping this thought in the back of my mind has never led me wrong. In the future I hope to use it to determine where exactly in Ireland some of them hailed from. Regards, Catherine

-----Original Message----- From: Jim Ray <jray@neonramp.com> To: nebrroots-l@rootswen.com <nebrroots-l@rootswen.com> Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 2:27 PM Subject: RE: Migration Routes >Marsh: PA>KY>OH>WI>MO>NE > >Ray: TN>IL>IA>NE > >Calvert: PA>OH>NE > >Sheehan: IRL>ONT>NE > >Casey: IRL>ONT>IA>NE > >Jim Ray >jray@neonramp.com > >

Forgot the NE. county. Try again, BOBIER--- Ireland, New York, Ontario Canada, Anderson Co. Kansas, Dixon Co. Nebraska

Willmott: Monmouthshire Wales 1841-1871 Will county ILL 1873-1875 Phelps county NEB. 1880 - 1901. Weld county Colo. 1895-1963. Ormond: Pembrokeshire Wales-1821-1861 Will county ILL. 1869-1880 Phelps county Neb. 1880-1925. Pierce: Flintshire Wales 1843-1873 Will county ILL.1873-1874 Phelps county Neb. 1874-1919 See my web site below. Sorry no Pierce yet still searching. KEN Keneth Willmott 3625 Yosemite Dr. Greeley Co.80634 USA ormand@webtv.net http://www.geocities.com/heartland/woods/5676

BOBIER---Ireland, New York, Ontario Canada, Anderson Co. Kansas, Nebraska.

My JONES Family: North Wales(Betws yn Rhos)> Wisconsin> Streator, Illinois> Iowa> Columbus, Platte Co, Nebraska> Los Angeles, California. My SHEFFORD Family (WAKES, MARMOY, THOMPSON): London, England> New Orleans>Alton, Illinois> Genoa, Nebraska> Omaha, Nebraska> Centerville, Utah> Columbus, Nebraska and THOMPSON only back to >> Utah. My BERINGER family: Germany>Rome, NY>Ohio>NY> PA>Maryland>Washington DC>Elgin, Illinois>St. Louis>Ratton, New Mexico>Nebraska City, Otoe Co.& Platte Co. My HUDSON Family: Sheffield, England>London, England> Alton, Illinois>Genoa, Nebraska> Columbus, Platte Co. Nebraska. My DAVIES/DAVIS Family: Llandyfriog, Cardiganshire, Wales>Dowlias, Glamorganshire, Wales > PA > Streator, Illinois > Columbus, Nebraska. Earl Brunner Las Vegas, Nevada

Here are two migration patterns that are relatively complete: HERSHEY Switzerland>Lancaster Co.,PA>York County,PA> Monmouth, Warren Col, IL>Beatrice, NE. BOWHAY Lincolnshire, Eng.>Fulton Co., PA>Mission Creek, Pawnee Co., NE Barbara Archer

ELLIS: Yorkshire, England 1794 > Onondaga Co, NY 1830 > Racine Co, WI 1844 > Lake Co, IL 1846 > Dubuque Co, IA 1860 > Buffalo Co, NE 1865 HARPER: PA > Delaware Co, OH 1822 > Lee Co, IA 1862 > Crawford Co, KS 1868 > Hall Co., NE 1897 HARPER: PA > Delaware Co, OH 1842 > DeWitt Co, IL 1865 > Hall Co, NE 1893 SCHRITT: Johannesburg 1870 > NY 1908 > MN 1910 > Lancaster Co, NE 1920 > Hall Co, NE 1925 STODDARD/STOTTERN: England 1840 > PA 1868 > KY 1872 > Douglas Co, NE 1910 > Buffalo Co, NE 1931 LOVELAND: England 1639 > CT > OH 1870's > MN 1908 ? > Emmet Co, IA 1929 > SD 1942 > Hall Co, NE 1961 LOOMIS: England 1580's > MA 1638 > Windsor, CT 1640 > Ripley, NY 1799 > OH 1842 > Dubuque Co, IA 1854 > Buffalo Co, NE 1865 If they would have kept better records, I could too!! Kaylynn

In a message dated 2/4/99 6:36:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, gonfishin@att.net writes: << > I have lots of elderly relatives who got SS#'s late in life. I'm not sure > but perhaps for some small benefits or for the death benefit? > >> Every child that receives any welfare or other government aid must have a SS Number now. In the past adults beyond working age were required to obtain SS # to qualify for Medicare or Medicaid. A lot of the adults without numbers were women. Obvious reasons. Grant

I submitted yesterday with out sir names, thought I would add the sir names if any one is interested. Also include my fathers family migration. SCHAD Mainz, Germany> Manitowoc Co. WI> Colfax Co. NE> Platte Co. NE> BECK Bohimia> Austria> Manitowoc Co. WI> Colfax Co. NE> Platte Co. NE> CONNELLY Ireland> Scotland> Lindsay, Ontario, Canada> Platte Co. NE> HYDE England> Hartford CT, 1633> Rockford, IL 1865> Dunlap, Harrison Co. IA > Norfolk, Madison Co. NE> Fremont, Dodge Co. NE CHAPMAN Wyoming Co NY> Kane & Will Co.'s IL> Dunlap, Harrison Co. IA> Fremont, Dodge Co. NE Thanks to everyone, I really enjoy reading all of the migration routes Mary Clausen in Idaho