When I first started on something like this I was using msn mappoint but when I entered USGS coordinates into the parameters it would take me to weird places mostly out of the county and some ended up invalid. Now I'm thinking that the conversion Joe is talking about below is what mappoint also uses. Joe, could you provide us an example of a USGS converted? I know you provided a formula but I guess it's because of the terminology that I don't follow. Sincerely, Mike Emmons Traill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garnett J.(Joe) Zsedeny" <jzsed@starband.net> To: <NDGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [NDGENWEB-L] (no subject) > Hi Don, > > I don't know if this will help but you can use the township maps from > the Ward County Archives page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eusgenweb/nd/ward/ward.htm to locate the > townships. > > Then, and I really hesitate to get into this because it is > complicated and I haven't used it for several years but here goes. > > If you have the geographical coordinates from the USGS they can be > converted from degrees, minutes, seconds to degrees and tenths and > plugged into the Census Bureau Tiger Map Server Gazatteer. Here is > the general URL for the Tiger Map Browser: > http://tiger.census.gov/cgi-bin/mapbrowse-tbl?. Using the converted > USGS coordinates for any location you can create a map with county, > state and US highway numbers pinpointing cemeteries, towns or > whatever for a drive to. For examples go here: > http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Endpembin/cemdex.htm. > > Conversion from degrees, minutes, seconds is degrees.min/60+sec/3600. > > Joy, if I screwed this up please step in <G>. > > Joe Zsedeny > > > On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:05:35 EDT, DTGARDNER@aol.com wrote: > >Hello > > > >I just updated "Ward County Roots". > > > >I added all the Churches, Cemeteries and Schools from the USGS and > >the XY > >Data site. Their only location data is a section number. It could be > >in the > >middle of main street for all I can tell so if you know of a better > >location > >please let me know > > > >If anyone sees errors please let me know. I know there are many > >missing > >places and am still looking for more lists and Ideas. > > > >I am going try to link Cemetery names to sites that are already on > >line next. > > > >Thanks > >Don Gardner > > > >

Hi Mike -- I ain't Joe, but here is a step by step example: I went to geonames and looked up the Danzig Cemetery in McIntosh County. I got the following: Latitude = 460808N Longitude = 0992815W These are both in the format degrees, minutes, seconds. The last two digits are seconds, the two digits to the left of that are minutes, and the rest is degrees. So latitude = 46 degrees 8 minutes 8 seconds north of the equator; longitude = 99 degrees 28 minutes 15 seconds west of Greenwich, England. Now for the math in order to use any of the mapping web sites: latitude = 46 + 8/60 + 8/3600 = 46 + .13333 + .00222 = 46.1356 degrees longitude = 99 + 28/60 + 15/3600 = 99 + .466667 + .0041667 = 99.4708 degrees Now I go to whatever mapping software I want to use and enter these coordinates. --- Mike Peterson <geanie@cox.net> wrote: > When I first started on something like this I was > using msn mappoint but > when I entered USGS coordinates into the parameters > it would take me to > weird places mostly out of the county and some ended > up invalid. Now I'm > thinking that the conversion Joe is talking about > below is what mappoint > also uses. Joe, could you provide us an example of a > USGS converted? I know > you provided a formula but I guess it's because of > the terminology that I > don't follow. > Sincerely, > Mike > Emmons > Traill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Garnett J.(Joe) Zsedeny" <jzsed@starband.net> > To: <NDGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [NDGENWEB-L] (no subject) > > > > Hi Don, > > > > I don't know if this will help but you can use the > township maps from > > the Ward County Archives page: > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eusgenweb/nd/ward/ward.htm > to locate the > > townships. > > > > Then, and I really hesitate to get into this > because it is > > complicated and I haven't used it for several > years but here goes. > > > > If you have the geographical coordinates from the > USGS they can be > > converted from degrees, minutes, seconds to > degrees and tenths and > > plugged into the Census Bureau Tiger Map Server > Gazatteer. Here is > > the general URL for the Tiger Map Browser: > > http://tiger.census.gov/cgi-bin/mapbrowse-tbl?. > Using the converted > > USGS coordinates for any location you can create a > map with county, > > state and US highway numbers pinpointing > cemeteries, towns or > > whatever for a drive to. For examples go here: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Endpembin/cemdex.htm. > > > > Conversion from degrees, minutes, seconds is > degrees.min/60+sec/3600. > > > > Joy, if I screwed this up please step in <G>. > > > > Joe Zsedeny > > > > > > On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:05:35 EDT, > DTGARDNER@aol.com wrote: > > >Hello > > > > > >I just updated "Ward County Roots". > > > > > >I added all the Churches, Cemeteries and Schools > from the USGS and > > >the XY > > >Data site. Their only location data is a section > number. It could be > > >in the > > >middle of main street for all I can tell so if > you know of a better > > >location > > >please let me know > > > > > >If anyone sees errors please let me know. I know > there are many > > >missing > > >places and am still looking for more lists and > Ideas. > > > > > >I am going try to link Cemetery names to sites > that are already on > > >line next. > > > > > >Thanks > > >Don Gardner > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush

Super ! Thank you Joy ! Mike Emmons Traill > Now for the math in order to use any of the mapping > web sites: > > latitude = 46 + 8/60 + 8/3600 = 46 + .13333 + .00222 = > 46.1356 degrees > > longitude = 99 + 28/60 + 15/3600 = 99 + .466667 + > .0041667 = 99.4708 degrees > > Now I go to whatever mapping software I want to use > and enter these coordinates.

Okay, Mike, lets find the village of Pembina, Pembina County with USGS coordinates of 485759N, 0971436W or 48degrees 57' 59", 097degrees 14' 36". To convert: 48.57/60+59/3600 = 48.9664 and 097.14/60+36/3600 = -97.2433. The minus is needed because we are west of the zero or Greenwich, UK meridian. Anyway put these coordinates into http://tiger.census.gov/cgi-bin/mapbrowse-tbl?. Use the select chart to plot roads, villages, etc. There may be errors in some of the coordinates given by USGS, I don't know. For those who like to explore cemeteries and own a GPS receiver it should be possible to stand in the middle of a cemetery, take a reading, record the coordinates and later use the above method to exactly plot the cemetery for a drive to map. Joe On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:50:32 -0700, Mike Peterson wrote: >When I first started on something like this I was using msn mappoint >but >when I entered USGS coordinates into the parameters it would take me >to >weird places mostly out of the county and some ended up invalid. Now >I'm >thinking that the conversion Joe is talking about below is what >mappoint >also uses. Joe, could you provide us an example of a USGS converted? >I know >you provided a formula but I guess it's because of the terminology >that I >don't follow. >Sincerely, >Mike >Emmons >Traill >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Garnett J.(Joe) Zsedeny" <jzsed@starband.net> >To: <NDGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 8:35 AM >Subject: Re: [NDGENWEB-L] (no subject) > > >>Hi Don, >> >>I don't know if this will help but you can use the township maps >>from >>the Ward County Archives page: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eusgenweb/nd/ward/ward.htm to locate the >>townships. >> >>Then, and I really hesitate to get into this because it is >>complicated and I haven't used it for several years but here goes. >> >>If you have the geographical coordinates from the USGS they can be >>converted from degrees, minutes, seconds to degrees and tenths and >>plugged into the Census Bureau Tiger Map Server Gazatteer. Here is >>the general URL for the Tiger Map Browser: >>http://tiger.census.gov/cgi-bin/mapbrowse-tbl?. Using the converted >>USGS coordinates for any location you can create a map with county, >>state and US highway numbers pinpointing cemeteries, towns or >>whatever for a drive to. For examples go here: >>http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Endpembin/cemdex.htm. >> >>Conversion from degrees, minutes, seconds is >>degrees.min/60+sec/3600. >> >>Joy, if I screwed this up please step in <G>. >> >>Joe Zsedeny >> >> >>On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:05:35 EDT, DTGARDNER@aol.com wrote: >>>Hello >>> >>>I just updated "Ward County Roots". >>> >>>I added all the Churches, Cemeteries and Schools from the USGS and >>>the XY >>>Data site. Their only location data is a section number. It could >>>be >>>in the >>>middle of main street for all I can tell so if you know of a >>>better >>>location >>>please let me know >>> >>>If anyone sees errors please let me know. I know there are many >>>missing >>>places and am still looking for more lists and Ideas. >>> >>>I am going try to link Cemetery names to sites that are already on >>>line next. >>> >>>Thanks >>>Don Gardner >> >> >> >>