Yeah, Mike, I need to work on rewording this. That's why I give this stuff to all of you -- I'm not always good at expressing myself well. New CCs are automatically added, and if I notice one bounces off, I try to contact them to find out what's going on. But if they notice they have bounced off, know their ISP is messing up, are changing addys, or whatever it might be, they should contact me. It goes back to the communication thing. ~Lee On Tuesday, August 17, 2004 1:05 PM [GMT+5=ET], Mike Peterson <geanie@cox.net> wrote: > I suggest the SC or ASC automatically add CC's to the NDGENWEB > Mailing List and unsubscribing is turned off. Many CC's are too busy > to be involved in a lot of discussion items but it's pretty important > that they at least belong to the list even though they can't > participate. This is the tool to get info to the CC's. > Sincerely, Mike > -------------------------------------- > **CCs should maintain communication with the SC and ASC. Also, all > North Dakota county coordinators must belong to the NDGenWeb email > list. Email the state coordinator to be added or to change your email > address. (Following up on this one -- communication goes both ways. > Right now I'm having major health problems and am relying on Michelle > to help keep me on track. So a heads-up -- if you write me offlist, > cc it to Michelle as well.)

There are actually two main considerations here, one is what is suggested or recommended for a CC to do which varies a bit by the amount of activity for a county but 'should be' relatively frequent, weekly or nearly so or probably more accurately within a few days of receiving something be it a query or notice of a bad link or whatever. The other is the outer limit of what is acceptable... the point at which a CC is subject to possible removal. 2 months... 6 months... a year? At what point is neglect acceptable grounds for removal? Holly At 10:12 AM 8/17/2004 -0700, Mike Peterson wrote: >I'll throw out the suggestion of every-other month. >Sincerely, >Mike Peterson >Emmons >Traill >--------------------------- > > My biggest concern is about updating the websites. I think we all agree > > that our sites should be checked for broken links, and submissions added >in > > a timely manner. I want your opinions about what is 'timely.' > > How often should we require that a site be checked for bad links and > > updated? Real Life can be a stinker and thwart us in our attempts to keep > > sites updated, but yet, letting a site go for six months or a year isn't > > good for researchers. Here's what I have written for the > > keeping-the-sites-updated requirement: > > > > "County pages must be kept updated. This includes adding submissions in a > > timely manner and checking for broken and outdated links -- no less than > > ????. " > > > > What should we fill in that question mark with? Without some sort of time > > period established, 'timely' is too ambiguous to mean anything. Please >give > > me some discussion!

I'd like to disagree with 'making' CC's put a query link on the main page. I like to organize my sites by having a list of main categories on the main page, one of these being what I call "Interactive Resources" or a label to that effect which includes links to queries (on and off site) and mailing lists --- that sort of thing. Others like to have a more detailed listing all on the main page and some like to have a welcoming page which then links to a page with the site contents, either in categories or detailed. Holly At 10:08 AM 8/17/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Suggest adding that the LINK to the Query System be on the main page at >least. >Sincerely, Mike Peterson >----------------------- >**A query system must be in place. This may be a manual system, where >submissions are emailed to the county coordinator and added manually to the >query page, an automated submission system, such as the Mailmerge Query >System, (see Shari Handley's page for a great tutorial that can be used on >Rootsweb accounts: http://www.mdgenweb.org/querytutorial.htm), or by using a >message board, such as the Rootsweb Message Boards. >(basic reiteration of national guidelines)

I'll throw out the suggestion of every-other month. Sincerely, Mike Peterson Emmons Traill --------------------------- > My biggest concern is about updating the websites. I think we all agree > that our sites should be checked for broken links, and submissions added in > a timely manner. I want your opinions about what is 'timely.' > How often should we require that a site be checked for bad links and > updated? Real Life can be a stinker and thwart us in our attempts to keep > sites updated, but yet, letting a site go for six months or a year isn't > good for researchers. Here's what I have written for the > keeping-the-sites-updated requirement: > > "County pages must be kept updated. This includes adding submissions in a > timely manner and checking for broken and outdated links -- no less than > ????. " > > What should we fill in that question mark with? Without some sort of time > period established, 'timely' is too ambiguous to mean anything. Please give > me some discussion!

Suggest adding that the LINK to the Query System be on the main page at least. Sincerely, Mike Peterson ----------------------- **A query system must be in place. This may be a manual system, where submissions are emailed to the county coordinator and added manually to the query page, an automated submission system, such as the Mailmerge Query System, (see Shari Handley's page for a great tutorial that can be used on Rootsweb accounts: http://www.mdgenweb.org/querytutorial.htm), or by using a message board, such as the Rootsweb Message Boards. (basic reiteration of national guidelines)

I suggest the SC or ASC automatically add CC's to the NDGENWEB Mailing List and unsubscribing is turned off. Many CC's are too busy to be involved in a lot of discussion items but it's pretty important that they at least belong to the list even though they can't participate. This is the tool to get info to the CC's. Sincerely, Mike -------------------------------------- **CCs should maintain communication with the SC and ASC. Also, all North Dakota county coordinators must belong to the NDGenWeb email list. Email the state coordinator to be added or to change your email address. (Following up on this one -- communication goes both ways. Right now I'm having major health problems and am relying on Michelle to help keep me on track. So a heads-up -- if you write me offlist, cc it to Michelle as well.)

Hello folks! With counties up for adoption and some new CCs coming in, I've been trying to put thought into the guidelines so they know what is expected but need some opinions. In glancing over the national guidelines, they cover the bases fairly well, I think: http://www.usgenweb.org/volunteers/CCguidelines.shtml I have reiterated a few points from the national page, and added our own. My biggest concern is about updating the websites. I think we all agree that our sites should be checked for broken links, and submissions added in a timely manner. I want your opinions about what is 'timely.' How often should we require that a site be checked for bad links and updated? Real Life can be a stinker and thwart us in our attempts to keep sites updated, but yet, letting a site go for six months or a year isn't good for researchers. Here's what I have written for the keeping-the-sites-updated requirement: "County pages must be kept updated. This includes adding submissions in a timely manner and checking for broken and outdated links -- no less than ????. " What should we fill in that question mark with? Without some sort of time period established, 'timely' is too ambiguous to mean anything. Please give me some discussion! Okay -- now on to the rest: **A query system must be in place. This may be a manual system, where submissions are emailed to the county coordinator and added manually to the query page, an automated submission system, such as the Mailmerge Query System, (see Shari Handley's page for a great tutorial that can be used on Rootsweb accounts: http://www.mdgenweb.org/querytutorial.htm), or by using a message board, such as the Rootsweb Message Boards. (basic reiteration of national guidelines) **A USGenWeb Logo must be displayed prominently on the main page of the site as well as a NDGenWeb Logo and a link to the NDGenWeb Project state site. A link to our About the NDGenWeb Project page is also necessary. (reiteration of national guidelines with addition of state links and logo) **A list of local resources, such as county clerk, newspapers, etc. should be a part of each site as well as a link to your county's ND Archives page. A link to the State Resource page would be beneficial, or you may create your own state/general resource page for your site in addition to listing local research help. (reiteration of national guidelines) **The county coordinator's name and current email address must be displayed on at least the main page of the website. **The county must have a search engine. **CCs should maintain communication with the SC and ASC. Also, all North Dakota county coordinators must belong to the NDGenWeb email list. Email the state coordinator to be added or to change your email address. (Following up on this one -- communication goes both ways. Right now I'm having major health problems and am relying on Michelle to help keep me on track. So a heads-up -- if you write me offlist, cc it to Michelle as well.) Share with the list what you think of all these requirements. They are what have always been required, just not written down. I *really* want feedback from all of you. ~Lee S. King SC NDGenWeb Project

Does anyone know of a North Dakota organization involved in cemetery restoration or preservation? Sincerely, Mike Emmons Traill

Please forward to all USGenWeb Project members and lists The USGenWeb Election Committee is pleased to announce the results of the National Election 2004. National Coordinator One Year Term Ending 8/31/05 Charles Barnum 29 06.042% Shari Handley 245 51.042% Don Kelly 84 17.500% Karen Mitchell 72 15.000% Richard White 50 10.416% Total Votes: 480 The EC declares Shari Handley winner -- Tombstone Project Representative Two Year Term Ending 8/31/06 Kathi Jones-Hudson 13 Unopposed The EC declares Kathi Jones-Hudson winner -- Northeast/North Central (NENC) County Coordinator Representative Two Year Term Ending 8/31/06 Scott Burow 48 35.037% Jan Cortez 51 37.226% Sandra Newman Sanchez 38 27.737% Total votes: 137 The EC declares a Run-Off Election between candidates Scott Burrow and Jan Cortez. -- Northwest Plains (NWPL) County Coordinator Representative Two Year Term Ending 8/31/06 Allen 38 44.706% Darilee Bednar 47 55.294% Total votes: 85 The EC declares Darilee Bednar winner -- Southeast/Mid-Atlantic (SEMA) State Coordinator Representative One year Replacement Term Ending 8/31/05 Sherri Hall 7 46.667% Angie Rayfield 8 53.333% Total votes: 15 The EC declares Angie Rayfield winner -- Southeast/Mid-Atlantic (SEMA) County Coordinator Representative Two Year Term Ending 8/31/06 Linda Blum-Barton 65 33.679% Kati Hestand 24 12.435% Elva Morgan 13 06.736% Fred Smoot 62 32.124% Sharon Tabor 29 15.026% Total votes: 193 The EC declares a Run-Off Election between candidates Linda Blum-Barton and Fred Smoot -- Southwest/South Central (SWSC) State Coordinator Representative Two Year Term Ending 8/31/06 Larry Flesher 10 Unopposed. The EC declares Larry Flesher winner. -- Southwest/South Central (SWSC) County Coordinator Representative Two Year Term Ending 8/31/06 David Morgan 53 38.686% Phyllis Rippee 45 32.847% Mike St. Clair 39 28.467% Total votes: 137 The EC declares a Run-Off Election between candidates David Morgan and Phyllis Rippee. -- The results will be posted on the EC National Election website within 24 hours. Please visit the website for further updates: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/national-2004/index.html The Election Committee would like to thank all candidates and voters for participating. More information on the Run-Off Elections will be announced as soon as possible. USGenWeb Election Committee For questions please contact EC Chair, Ellen Pack <e.j.pack@natchezbelle.org>

July was another busy month for our web site. We're still updating the cemetery inventory, we added many obituaries from the private libraries of two of our contributors, we've updated and added town histories including articles, we've added photos of families and places, we've added more obituaries and photographs and much more. We are very grateful to those contributing to our web site. Their time and their contributions are greatly appreciated. Our recent volunteers and contributors were Judy Fried, Lee King, Heather Landmesser, Cynthia Maier, Darin Neugebauer, and John Sahli. We thank all of them for their generous and tremendous support. Visit our "What's New" Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ndemmons/whatsnewindex.htm to see what we've been doing lately. We invite those of you who have genealogy documents, photos, records, maps, obituaries, biographies, and so on which pertain to Emmons County to please contribute them to our site so that your data may be shared with others. Sincerely, Mike Peterson NDGenWeb Emmons County Coordinator geanie@cox.net http://www.rootsweb.com/~ndemmons/

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Hi Don, I began with the listing from USGS using their location names as a starting point and then on the page requested additional information from my readers. If Dunn County is any example, some cemeteries will go locally by different names, some will not be on the list et cetera. One just needs to annotate or add to the USGS list. I did drop the latitude and longitude data but kept the links to USGS map info. In Dunn County I was very fortunate to have assistance and transcripts from Terri Godlevsky to both update the listing and who provided transcripts. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nddunn2/cems/index.html Holly who figures we have to start somewhere At 12:48 PM 8/2/2004 -0400, DTGARDNER@aol.com wrote: >I am working on a site named "Ward County Roots." >I found a township map which was incomplete as far as what is in which >township. This map shows the Coordinates such as "T151N R87W". >I also got a print out of Cemeteries in Ward County(Wayhoo). It shows the >everything by Latitude and Longitude. There is another (USGS) shows the same >thing but all the numbers are different. > >Does anyone know if there is someplace where I can get a list of cemeteries >in Ward County, ND listed by Township/Town? > >Thanks >Don Gardner >

I am working on a site named "Ward County Roots." I found a township map which was incomplete as far as what is in which township. This map shows the Coordinates such as "T151N R87W". I also got a print out of Cemeteries in Ward County(Wayhoo). It shows the everything by Latitude and Longitude. There is another (USGS) shows the same thing but all the numbers are different. Does anyone know if there is someplace where I can get a list of cemeteries in Ward County, ND listed by Township/Town? Thanks Don Gardner

To all USGenWeb Members - *Please forward to all USGenWeb Members and Lists* Important reminder: The last day to vote in the USGenWeb National Election is this Saturday, July 31, 2004. After that, the voting form will be turned off, and no more votes will be accepted. If you are a Registered USGenWeb Member and have not received a voting password, please contact your local EC Representative immediately. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/current.html Please state your full name, the areas of the project for which you are a volunteer, and any E-mail addresses you may use. Please be sure your spam filter settings are not preventing receipt. The EC will make every attempt to see that members needing a password will receive one, but can not make any guarantees to those who wait until the last few days. No passwords will be sent out after early Friday. Follow the instructions carefully in the password note, and on the voting form. Voters may have to designate the election in which they wish to participate. Cookies must be enabled in order to vote. No information is retained permanently. Members may only vote once. It will not be possible to go back later and change your vote. For more information about the Election and the candidates, go to the Election Committee National Election 2004 web page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwelections/national-2004/index.html The EC would like to encourage everyone to vote! The USGenWeb Election Committee

On Wednesday, July 21, 2004 2:53 PM [GMT+5=ET], Roger Swafford <sagitta56@mchsi.com> wrote: (*Please forward to all appropriate project lists*) The Bylaws Revision Committee (BRC) has resumed consideration of changes to the Bylaws Revision. (see http://home.mchsi.com/~sagitta56/revisions.htm ). The BRC has approved the following change to the Revision Article V Section 8. -- Change from -- Section 8. In the event a board member is unable to complete his/her term, the Advisory Board shall request the Election Committee to conduct a special election in the affected region. The newly elected representative shall be seated within 21 days of the vacancy, and shall serve until the next scheduled election. Change to -- Section 8. In the event that a board member is unable to complete his or her term. The Advisory Board will appoint a replacement within 21 days to serve until the next scheduled election. ____________________________________________________________ The BRC has openings for three members, anyone interested in assisting to refine the revision should contact the National Coordinator or the BRC Chair. Roger - BRC website > http://home.mchsi.com/~sagitta56/ \

You had, Mary, but thanks for making sure! :-) ~Lee On Tuesday, July 20, 2004 1:43 PM [GMT+5=ET], Mary Lindbo <mjlindbo@msn.com> wrote: > am pretty sure I replied to the first one but just in case I didn't -- > > Mary Lindbo > Rolette County > Towner County > Nelson County > > > >> From: "L. S. King" <GenealogyFreak@comcast.net> >> Reply-To: NDGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com >> To: NDGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NDGENWEB-L] July 04 Roll Call >> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:41:11 -0400 >> >> >> Folks -- many of you have not replied to the roll call. >> Please -- I need to know who is out there and who is MIA, since most >> of you are very quiet. >> Just a quick reply to this or email to me is fine. >> >> ~Lee S. King >> SC NDGenWeb Project

Had glitch so am forwarding Char's email to the list... ~Lee ===forwarded message=== On Tuesday, July 20, 2004 8:10 AM [GMT+5=ET], Char Kibbie <csnkibbie@comcast.net> wrote: Hi Mike, I am the CC for Dickey County and am in the process of transcribing the 1925 ND State Census for that county. I created a table that included a Notes column. I am so glad I did. The column provided a space for me to add notes as the transcriber to help researchers and also a place for researchers to ask me to include notes for other researchers. Lorraine twp. is a good example - scroll down and take a look at household 28 http://www.rootsweb.com/~nddickey/1925tlor.htm Hamburg and Hudson twps. are good examples showing how my notes in the heading offers help interpreting how the census taker counted the households. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nddickey/1925tham.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~nddickey/1925thud.htm The archives are wonderful. However, these examples show why more personalized and interactive census info is helpful to researchers, especially the newbies. Char Kibbie CC for Dickey and Sargent Counties -----Original Message----- From: Mike Peterson [mailto:geanie@cox.net] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 4:53 PM To: NDGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NDGENWEB-L] Census Changes I could use some advice. I received an email from someone who browses the web site in family research. He found an ancestor (success) but he wanted to let me know that in both the 1900 and 1910 census, the surname is not spelled correctly and asked to get them corrected. Both of these files are in USGenWeb Archives - I link to them. I sent an email to the transcriber asking him if he could change it. The email bounced. I've run across this problem before and once tried to have one corrected with no success. It seems the census records that are out there, some in various places, from my experience, never get updated. Am I assuming correctly. Would anyone wish to suggest something here. The last thing I really want to do is to go back to this fella and say tough luck; no change possible. I do intend to respond to him; he deserves a response. But I am really struggling with what to say. Sincerely, Mike Emmons CC

Folks -- many of you have not replied to the roll call. Please -- I need to know who is out there and who is MIA, since most of you are very quiet. Just a quick reply to this or email to me is fine. ~Lee S. King SC NDGenWeb Project

am pretty sure I replied to the first one but just in case I didn't -- Mary Lindbo Rolette County Towner County Nelson County >From: "L. S. King" <GenealogyFreak@comcast.net> >Reply-To: NDGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com >To: NDGENWEB-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NDGENWEB-L] July 04 Roll Call >Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:41:11 -0400 > > >Folks -- many of you have not replied to the roll call. >Please -- I need to know who is out there and who is MIA, since most of you >are very quiet. >Just a quick reply to this or email to me is fine. > >~Lee S. King >SC NDGenWeb Project >

Don, if we had a person willing to create, and folks who would diligently help admin, a data system such as the Iowa boards, we could. It might be a possibility for the future... But we do have the ND Archives. :-) ~Lee S. King SC NDGenWeb Project On Monday, July 12, 2004 6:04 PM [GMT+5=ET], DTGARDNER@aol.com <DTGARDNER@aol.com> wrote: > Over the years I have been using the following site for Fayette > County, Iowa. Would it be possible for ND to develop 4 pages like > these so we have a standard entry method? > Fayette County and I believe all of Iowa. > _http://www.rootsweb.com/~iafayett/_ > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~iafayett/)