For the List-- __________________________ Checked my "Black's Law Dictionary" (5th edition) and found the following: -- Sine prole Without issue. Used in genealogical tables, and often abbreviated into "s.p." -- Die without issue See Dying without issue. -- Dying without issue Dying without a child either before or after the decedent's death. At common law this phrase imports an indefinite failure of issue, and not a dying without issue surviving at the time of the death of the first taker. But this rule has been changed in many decisions, with many states having held the expression "dying without issue," and like expressions, have reference to the time of the death of the party, and not to an indefinite failure of issue. See also Failure of issue. Dying without children imports not a failure of issue at any indefinite future period, but a leaving no children at the death of the legatee. The law favors vesting of estates, and limitation such as "dying without issue," refers to a definite period, fixed in will, rather than to an indefinite failure of issue. Where contest is such as to show clearly that testator intended the phrase "die without issue" to mean that, if first taker die without issue during life of testator, the second taker shall stand in his place and prevent a lapse, the words "die without issue" are taken to mean death during life of testator. Martin v. Raff, 114 Ind.App. 507, 52 N.E.2d 839, 845. _______________________________ I did not find a reference for Orbin Sine Prole. I use DSP as an abbreviation for "died without issue" to narrow my research quests but I only use it when there are no known children. When I find children for an individual, I delete the DSP flag. I use the abbreviation only as a research tool. If I want to narrate that an individual did not marry or did not have children, I do so in a text entry. I think this is a good example of how important it is for us to explain in an introduction to our reports, exactly what our abbreviations mean and how we are using them. A hundred years from now our abbreviations may have entirely different meanings. Rae Jean in Memphis -----Original Message----- From: I am who I have always been. <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [NCWILSON-L] DSP - OSP :I have seen 'DSP' in some really old lineages, and it was used as :abbreviation for 'died single person.' :Bev : :-----Original Message----- :From: Rae Jean Hay <[email protected]> :To: [email protected] <[email protected]> :Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 2:19 PM :Subject: [NCWILSON-L] DSP - OSP : : :>>If you find the notation "OSP", Orbin Sine Prole or "DSP" Decessit Sine :>>Prole, on a death :>>record or tombstone of one of your ancestors, if could be a real problem: :>>It is Latin for "died :>>without issue". :> :>I use "DSP" in my project as a flag for those individuals without issue to :>narrow my research quests. I did not know about the "OSP" notation - :thanks :>for the information. :> :>Rae Jean in sunny Memphis. :> :> : :