Al, In your Pope line do you have a Mourning Pope from Edgecombe county who married a Thomas and then when he died, she married William Pridgen in 1761. Later when he died, she married a Hilliard.... I have tried to get a list of her children, but I gather there are several Mourning Popes.... Also, have you and Lea corresponded on your Bass line? Thanks, Carol

Richard HOCOTT (Hoket) owned property in Edgecombe/Wilson from 1811 until his death in 1855. I have posted various deeds and wills in the USGenWeb archives. Only daughter Lydia married James Eason and remained in Wilson County. Five sons: Benjamin died with no issue. The other four all moved to Arkansas. Lorene Rambo [email protected]

It has been 13 months since our last roll call and I think perhaps it is time to do this again. Just put your name, your email address and the names you are researching in Wilson County. Perhaps we can get more dialogue going if we try this. Ex. Carol Pridgen Martoccia [email protected] PRIDGEN, BROWN,BATTEN,PITTMAN,HOLLAND .. Carol P. Martoccia .. 903 East Fifth Street .. Greenville, NC 27858 .. Pridgen Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/6297 Rootsweb Archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl LISTMANAGER FOR PRIDGEN ROOTSWEB LIST AND FOR NCWILSON ROOTSWEB LIST

Hello gang, I'm new to the list and I am researching my Rose line. As far back as I've been able to go is my ggrandmother and they were all in Johnston Co. I've not had any luck finding any Roses there but found alot of them in Wilson. I'm hoping to exchange any information with anyone who is researching Roses also. Hopefully, I can get around this HUGE brick wall. Here is what I have so far: Delphie Rose (supposedly she wasn't married until yrs later and her first 4 children were illigitimate, so she would be a Rose by birth) Children: Clyde, Frank (my grandfather), Stella and Irene Frank married a Eula Batten from Johnston Co. They had my father J.D. Rose who married Gloria Walker of Halifax Co. They are my parents. If anyone thinks that they may be able to help me, I will LOVE them forever. Thanx Crystal

MURPHY (Murphree, Murphrey) Beth [email protected]

I have an interest in the Popes, as two of my gggrandmothers were Popes. One Elizabeth and one Edith. They were, I think, sisters, the daughters of Millie Hayes who's father was Reuben Hayes. I regret that I do not know what Mr. Pope's first name was. According to my information, Edith was born in 1810 and Elizabeth was born in 1816. They lived in the northern part of Wayne County or eastern Johnston Co.. Maybe more or less between Lucama and Kenly. Reuben Hayes was the son of Peter Hayes and Martha Sledge. They would have been born about 1730. Any additional information would be appreciated. Al Bass

J. Albert Bass, Jr. 6425 Chapman Court Raleigh 27612 email [email protected] Primarily, BASS, but also Renfrow, Watson, Crumpler, Howell, Pope, Hayes, Deans, Best & Newsome. Al Bass

Great URLs for some history links: Thanks Shelby. > >What happened to the signers: >http://www.annapolis.gov/~city/signers.htm > >Struggle for NC Independence: >http://www.cbiinternet.com/shallowford/ncrevweb.htm > >American Revolutionary War History Links: >http://www.americanrevolution.org/histlinks.html .. Carol P. Martoccia .. 903 East Fifth Street .. Greenville, NC 27858 .. Pridgen Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/6297 Rootsweb Archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl LISTMANAGER FOR PRIDGEN ROOTSWEB LIST AND FOR NCWILSON ROOTSWEB LIST

To get some perspective as to how our ancestors lived and believed and fought for our freedoms, visit these three URLs: What happened to the signers: http://www.annapolis.gov/~city/signers.htm Struggle for NC Independence: http://www.cbiinternet.com/shallowford/ncrevweb.htm American Revolutionary War History Links: http://www.americanrevolution.org/histlinks.html (There are many others.) Shelby* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Choir/3843/ CROCKER/QUALLS/ROSE/PRIVETTE WINSTEAD/BRIGHT/WILLIAMSON/FISHER/JOINER/CREDLE/FLOWERS/BENSON NC Counties: Edgecombe/Nash/Franklin/Johnston/Beaufort/Hyde/ Shelby Jean CROCKER-Smith * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

>From: <[email protected]> Al, You seem to have a good head for History. Thanks for sharing that info with us. Carol .. Carol P. Martoccia .. 903 East Fifth Street .. Greenville, NC 27858 .. Pridgen Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/6297 Rootsweb Archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl LISTMANAGER FOR PRIDGEN ROOTSWEB LIST AND FOR NCWILSON ROOTSWEB LIST

Thank you, Al. Does anyone have any information on Mr. Penn? Hunter Ferrell Louisville, KY [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 31, 1999 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [NCWILSON-L] Fw: [GRIMES-List] "The rest of the story" > The signatories from NC were William Hooper, Joseph Hewes and a third > gentlemen named Penn, whose first name escapes me at the present. > > William Hooper was a lawyer, the son of an Anglican priest from Boston. > Hooper died in 1790 and was buried in Hillsborough NC, but his remains (what > they could find) were removed to the Guilford Courthouse Military Park in > 1894. > > Joseph Hewes was from New Jersey, a merchant. He died in 1779 while > attending the Contentental Congress in Philadelphia. He is buried at Christ > Church, Philadelphia. > > I regret that at the moment, I can give you no information on Mr. Penn. > > Al Bass >

This came to me from the Dobbs Co. list via the Grimes surname list. I thought it was interesting and wanted to share with the other list members. Were any of these men from NC? Hunter Ferrell Louisville, KY [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 31, 1999 6:52 PM Subject: Fwd: [GRIMES-List] "The rest of the story" > > --part1_21fdd694.24846cc5_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In a message dated 5/30/99 2:41:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > << War between the States.... not between the Colonies and England. > The perspective is quite different depending on which side of the > 'pond' one calls home. > > Enjoy, > > Lisa Grimes > For more on the American Revolution on the Internet.... > americanrevolution.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >The Fate of the Signatories > > by Gary Hildreth, courtesy of Paul Harvey > > > >Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed > >the Declaration of Independence? > > > >Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured > >before they died. > > >Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. > > >Two lost their sons in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons > >captured. > > >Nine of the 56 fought, and died, from wounds or hardships of the > >Revolutionary War.. > > > >They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their > >sacred honor... What kind of men were they? > > >Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine > >were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well > >educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence > >knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were > >captured. > > >Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his >ships > swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home > >and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags... > > >Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced > >to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress > >without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were > >taken from him, and poverty was his reward... > > >Vandals, or soldiers, looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, > >Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton... > > >At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British > >General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his > >headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to > >open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt... > > >Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy > >jailed his wife, and she died within a few months... > > >John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. > >Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were > >laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, > >returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few > >weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. > > >Norris, and Livingston, suffered similar fates... > > >Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. > >These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft- > >spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they > >valued liberty more... Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they > >pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the > >protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each > >other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor." > > >They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history > >books never told you a lot of what happened in the Revolutionary > >War. We didn't just fight the British. We were British subjects at that > >time and we fought our own government! Perhaps you can now see > >why our founding fathers had a hatred for standing armies, and > >allowed through the Second Amendment for everyone to be armed.. >> > > Thought everyone might like to see this.

I must have missed something. Could someone explain what the Gilmer Map is? It sounds like something I'd like to have as a reference. Hunter Ferrell Louisville, KY [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Crilley <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 31, 1999 2:51 PM Subject: [NCWILSON-L] Gilmer Map > What counties does the Gilmer Map actually cover? > > I am aware of the one which is on Bertie and parts of Hertford and > Northampton. We have this section on our Bertie County Page. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbertie/index.htm > > What other counties in NC do they cover? > Virginia >

The Gilmer map covers eastern NC during the War Between the States. The western- most boundary of the map covers the railroad tracks that go from North to South from the Goldsboro area to above Rocky Mount...Then above Rocky Mount it seems to go a little more west, but my poor eyesight will not pick out towns there. If your family lived east of the Railroad track then the map might be helpful. I promise that the next time I go to the Archives I will get copies of the other maps that I mentioned previously. As for the counties covered in the map, you have all the ones which lie between the Chowan River and the Railroad Tracks east of Raleigh (the Goldsboro/Wilson/Rocky Mount line) and the Northern border is Virginia while the Southern border is just south of Kinston in an east to west direction... In other words it doesn't cover the extreme eastern most part of NC, nor does it go all the way to S.C. but kind of block of land in the Coastal Plain.. Now, if anyone has a different approach or a way to make this clearer, please jump in and correct me!! Carol At 12:51 PM 5/31/1999 CST, you wrote: >What counties does the Gilmer Map actually cover? > >I am aware of the one which is on Bertie and parts of Hertford and >Northampton. We have this section on our Bertie County Page. >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbertie/index.htm > >What other counties in NC do they cover? >Virginia > > .. Carol P. Martoccia .. 903 East Fifth Street .. Greenville, NC 27858 .. Pridgen Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/6297 Rootsweb Archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl LISTMANAGER FOR PRIDGEN ROOTSWEB LIST AND FOR NCWILSON ROOTSWEB LIST

Carol, Thanks. I'll see if I can get it from Amazon. Hunter Ferrell Louisville, KY [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: psmartoc <[email protected]> To: G. Hunter Ferrell <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 31, 1999 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [NCWILSON-L] Hooks and Ruffin families > > Hunter, > I hope to get back to Raleigh in the next couple of weeks, I can get it for > you. Or, you might try Amazon.com or BarnesandNobles.com > in the meantime. > Carol

The Gilmer map is fantastic. I got the copy from the archives in Raleigh (in 6 parts) then came home and visited Kinkos and had 3 of the parts (the ones where my family lived) blown up poster size in order to read the plantation names more easily. I know you can order this map from the NC Archives in Raleigh. I don't know what they charge for mailing and copying. I do know that if you are in the Archives, the cost is 25 cents a page. Does anyone else know the cost if you have them mail the Map to you? Carol At 10:40 AM 5/31/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Jeremy Francis Gilmer, 1818-1883, was a native of Guilford Co. and was a West >Point graduate and Chief of the Confederate Engineer Bureau. The purpose of >the map, showing details east of the W&W Railroad was for the Army's use in >defending said RR against the depredations of the Federals coming from the >coastal areas which were under the control of the invading army. > >Al Bass > > .. Carol P. Martoccia .. 903 East Fifth Street .. Greenville, NC 27858 .. Pridgen Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/6297 Rootsweb Archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl LISTMANAGER FOR PRIDGEN ROOTSWEB LIST AND FOR NCWILSON ROOTSWEB LIST

At 10:31 AM 5/31/1999 EDT, [email protected] wrote: >There is a book, published by the NC Dept. of Archives and History entitled >The Formation of the North Carolina Counties 1663-1943 by David Leroy >Corbett. Good post Al. I have a 1st edition of the book and I truly recommend it for anyone doing research in NC.IT is good to know that it is available at the History Museum in Raleigh. Information like this is great to share. Thanks. Carol MY LlNES:PRIDGEN,LOFTIN,BRIGHT,GRAY,GRAVES,RUFFIN,BROWN,BATTEN, PITTMAN,HOLLAND,HARPER,BRUTON,WILLIAMS,OATES,LEWIS .. Carol P. Martoccia .. 903 East Fifth Street .. Greenville, NC 27858 .. Pridgen Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/6297 Rootsweb Archives: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl LISTMANAGER FOR PRIDGEN ROOTSWEB LIST AND FOR NCWILSON ROOTSWEB LIST

Al, Hello. Thank you for posting this. I have been looking for this book for a while. Do you know where I could find a copy? Would the Archives in Raleigh have it? Thank you. Hunter Ferrell Louisville, KY [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 31, 1999 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [NCWILSON-L] Hooks and Ruffin families > There is a book, published by the NC Dept. of Archives and History entitled > The Formation of the North Carolina Counties 1663-1943 by David Leroy > Corbett. The copy I have, a third printing of 1975 cost $9.00 from the shop > in the Museum of History in Raleigh when I bought it several years ago. You > might be interested in it. > > The purpose of the revision in the Wilson-Wayne County line in 1859 was to > "leave the dwelling house of said (Jacob) Hooks in the county of Wayne". > > While I am not researching the Hooks family, there were several of them who > married into the Bass family and if you are pursuing same, I would be glad to > share informatiom. Probably the oldest Hooks name I have is Cullen Hooks, > who was born about 1800. > > Al Bass > Raleigh >

What counties does the Gilmer Map actually cover? I am aware of the one which is on Bertie and parts of Hertford and Northampton. We have this section on our Bertie County Page. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbertie/index.htm What other counties in NC do they cover? Virginia

I think you do a great job and I appreciate it. Al Bass