Celia, Try to reach Joanne at [email protected] If you can not get her she posts under just Joanne or sometimes Joanne Pezzullo on the Melungeon Board. Jodi --- Celia Becker <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Jo Ann and group; > > I have Andrew Collins b. 1811 Clay County, KY > married to Elizabeth Ann > Sizemore b. 1815 in Clay County, KY. Just before > 1840 they went to > Missouri. > > Andrew was the oldest son of Bradley Collins of > Orange Co., NC and elsewhere > in North Carolina b. 1787 and who married as his 2ND > wife, Jane Ray in > Orange Co., NC in 1817. Bradley was first married > in 1807/8 and had as his > oldest daughter, Keziah Collins, b. 1809. He had > some half brothers and > sisters who were mulatto but he himself was always > listed as white, though > there is some indication he may have been part (like > only about a quarter) > Native American. Andrew Collins (son of Bradley) > and his sons were mostly > blonde and blue-eyed. > > NOTE: My Bradley Collins is NOT the same Bradley > Collins that Brenda Dillon > has been chasing around in the records. Brenda > Dillon Collins' has a > different Bradley Collins who WAS listed as mixed > race--half black and > Native American or so in combination with white. > The Collins of Floyd > County--and then later some in Clay were not the > Collins who were in North > Carolina. The Floyd County Collins are mostly > connected to Montgomery > County, Virginia and elsewhere. The connections to > Virginia are pretty well > documented. > > There is also no evidence that the Bradley Collins > who married Jane Ray in > 1817 and from his first marriage had Keziah, Andrew > and ???(at least two > other children) was the son of Meredith Collins. > > Since I don't know who the parents of Elizabeth Ann > ("Betsy") Sizemore were, > I don't know if she connects with the infamous Mr. > Riddle. I wouldn't be > surprised either way. I have one other infamous > Tory line among dozens of > patriots also, so it's hard to be greatly surprised > at this point. ;-) > > I also am chasing down a Lemar family--half of > which, along with half of my > Landrums/Lendrums went to Oklahoma on the "Trail of > Tears." I suspect my > Lemar ancestor was a full brother of the one who > went to Oklahoma and made a > devil's bargain to keep his property in Tennessee by > renouncing tribal > affiliation. The Lemars have a problem in proving > identity since they were > also French Huguenot in addition to allegedly being > part Native American. > The dark hair and eyes could have come from either. > ;-) > > Then there is the Arnold family... > > I'm down to finding the last three or four > generations max on all my > mother's lines after 40 years of research. I'm > trying to finish writing a > family history at least back to the point of > European immigration (for those > who came from Europe in the past 400 years) before > the end of my own life. > I don't want to become another Lyman Draper, driving > my nieces and nephews > nuts with boxes of files, etc. that have never been > completely arranged and > put into a finished history. > > > I'll look up the lady you mentioned. > > Sincerely, > > Cecilia L. Fabos-Becker > San Jose, CA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Jodi Friedman > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 2:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] Collins - Sizemore - > Contact for you > > > Celia, > > If you have connections that early on in > Wilkes/Burke > with the Sizemore and Collins.The Sizemore-Collins > lines have connections to William " The Tory ' > Riddle > who was hung in Wilkes by Benjamin Cleveland. They > are reserching these > lines on the Melungeon board. Find Joanne/Joanne > Pezzullo on the board and > post to her. She should be able to help you > > Jodi > --- Celia Becker <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Dear Jo Ann; > > > > I descend from the Sizemores out of Clay County, > > Kentucky. Do you have the > > contact info of the lady who has done all the > > research? I saw the "Wall > > Street Journal" article and some links from that > > discussed part of the > > family being Cherokee and part being something > else. > > Part of the discussion > > centers around Red Bird Sizemore, if I recall > > correctly off the top of my > > head without digging through three rather thick > > files on my Collins which > > had intermarried with the Sizemores. > > > > Now getting back to Wilkes County North Carolina > > genealogy, if there's > > anyone in Wilkes' county working on Walkers, > > particularly on the descendants > > of Daly Walker who was in Burke County in 1778 and > > then Wilkes by 1796, I'd > > like to know that also. I'm going more than a > > little bonkers trying to > > identify the James Walker who was the FATHER of my > > William Dale/Daly (has > > been written both ways) Walker b. 1821-22 North > > Carolina. I figured with > > the middle name of Dale/Daly he probably was > > connected to the Walkers of > > Wilkes Co., or at least that was a good place to > > start looking. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Cecilia L. Fabos-Becker > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of Jodi Friedman > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:37 PM > > To: Jo Ann Whitworth; [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] From a descendent > of > > the Native people to > > JoAnn > > > > > > Jo Ann, > > > > It's not that. He can play a wanna-be all he > wants. > > He > > makes himself look foolish. The woman he posted to > > and > > insulted is a descendant of the native people of > VA. > > She has worked realy hard on Sizemore research. > She > > has put dignity back in the Sizemore name from all > > the > > Cherokee claims. They were not Cherokee but of a > VA > > tribe and he had no right to speak to her or > anyone > > else that way on this or any board. Yes this is > > about > > genealogy but he didn't post genealogy only rude > > comments and attacked someone for no reason. > > Comments > > like his don't belong in the forum. > > > > Jodi > > --- Jo Ann Whitworth <[email protected]> > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ