one good way of proving american indian bloodlines is going to FTDNA and testing your Y-DNA and/or mtDNA....best option if you can't prove it on paper.... Steven -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Beam, Cindy L" <[email protected]> > Jo Ann, > > I've been reading the posts, and I have to say you were doing a good job > of trying to defuse the tension. I, too, am supposed to be descended > from the Cherokee, according to family stories, and I have no proof of > that being a fact. Thank you for trying to "keep the peace". > > Cindy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jo Ann Whitworth > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] From a descendent of the Native people to > JoAnn > > Jodi, my grandmother was said to be a full-blooded Cherokee, so if that > ever gets proven then I guess that would make me a a descendent of the > Native people, too. But I still say, let the guy alone. If he thinks > there was a Robert Arms, or a Chief RunningBear, more power to him. I > did not say I found him amusing, I said I was amused by his (and your) > messages, and all this fuss about who is and who is not a member of the > Cherokee Nation. I thought we were doing genealogy on this site, not > fighting the Indian Wars all over again. > Actually, I was trying to make peace between the two of you, by throwing > in a bit of humor. > Jo Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jodi Friedman" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:46 PM > Subject: [SPAM][NCWILKES] From a descendent of the Native people to Jo > Ann > > > > Jo Ann, > > > > I am a true and proven descendant of the Native people > > of the Rio Grande and we do find it offensive when > > someone claims to be a descendant of a Fake Chief. His > > ancestor was no Chief of the Cherokee Nation. There > > was no Robert Arms or Chief RunningBear or > > StandingBear in any Cherokee Nation per the tribes > > themselves. There are many people who are out there > > that pretend to be Indian. Why?????????????????? I am > > glad you find him amusing but the true native people > > do not! > > > > Jodi > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Steven, I would love to be able to prove descendent, but I am from the female line, and my understanding is that only males in the line can take the DNA, is that correct or am I mistaken? Thanks for your sweet note, Cindy. I think we should all just be "Indians" and let the "Chiefs" fight it out themselves, regardless of what race or nation they come from. I am a proven descendent of a pure-dee Moonshiner, but if someone emails the board claiming to be Al C.(the Chicago gangster), I am not going to get uptight about it. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: [SPAM]Re: [NCWILKES] From a descendent of the Native people to JoAnn > one good way of proving american indian bloodlines is going to FTDNA and > testing your Y-DNA and/or mtDNA....best option if you can't prove it on > paper.... > Steven > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Beam, Cindy L" <[email protected]> > >> Jo Ann, >> >> I've been reading the posts, and I have to say you were doing a good job >> of trying to defuse the tension. I, too, am supposed to be descended >> from the Cherokee, according to family stories, and I have no proof of >> that being a fact. Thank you for trying to "keep the peace". >> >> Cindy >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jo Ann Whitworth >> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:46 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] From a descendent of the Native people to >> JoAnn >> >> Jodi, my grandmother was said to be a full-blooded Cherokee, so if that >> ever gets proven then I guess that would make me a a descendent of the >> Native people, too. But I still say, let the guy alone. If he thinks >> there was a Robert Arms, or a Chief RunningBear, more power to him. I >> did not say I found him amusing, I said I was amused by his (and your) >> messages, and all this fuss about who is and who is not a member of the >> Cherokee Nation. I thought we were doing genealogy on this site, not >> fighting the Indian Wars all over again. >> Actually, I was trying to make peace between the two of you, by throwing >> in a bit of humor. >> Jo Ann >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jodi Friedman" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:46 PM >> Subject: [SPAM][NCWILKES] From a descendent of the Native people to Jo >> Ann >> >> >> > Jo Ann, >> > >> > I am a true and proven descendant of the Native people >> > of the Rio Grande and we do find it offensive when >> > someone claims to be a descendant of a Fake Chief. His >> > ancestor was no Chief of the Cherokee Nation. There >> > was no Robert Arms or Chief RunningBear or >> > StandingBear in any Cherokee Nation per the tribes >> > themselves. There are many people who are out there >> > that pretend to be Indian. Why?????????????????? I am >> > glad you find him amusing but the true native people >> > do not! >> > >> > Jodi >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> ____________ >> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. >> > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hey, me, too! Actually, I have no documented proof of moonshiners, either, but I'm sure they were there! Cindy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jo Ann Whitworth Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM]Re: From a descendent of the Native people toJoAnn Thanks, Steven, I would love to be able to prove descendent, but I am from the female line, and my understanding is that only males in the line can take the DNA, is that correct or am I mistaken? Thanks for your sweet note, Cindy. I think we should all just be "Indians" and let the "Chiefs" fight it out themselves, regardless of what race or nation they come from. I am a proven descendent of a pure-dee Moonshiner, but if someone emails the board claiming to be Al C.(the Chicago gangster), I am not going to get uptight about it. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: [SPAM]Re: [NCWILKES] From a descendent of the Native people to JoAnn > one good way of proving american indian bloodlines is going to FTDNA > and testing your Y-DNA and/or mtDNA....best option if you can't prove > it on paper.... > Steven > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Beam, Cindy L" <[email protected]> > >> Jo Ann, >> >> I've been reading the posts, and I have to say you were doing a good >> job of trying to defuse the tension. I, too, am supposed to be >> descended from the Cherokee, according to family stories, and I have >> no proof of that being a fact. Thank you for trying to "keep the peace". >> >> Cindy >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jo Ann Whitworth >> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:46 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] From a descendent of the Native people >> to JoAnn >> >> Jodi, my grandmother was said to be a full-blooded Cherokee, so if >> that ever gets proven then I guess that would make me a a descendent >> of the Native people, too. But I still say, let the guy alone. If he >> thinks there was a Robert Arms, or a Chief RunningBear, more power to >> him. I did not say I found him amusing, I said I was amused by his >> (and your) messages, and all this fuss about who is and who is not a >> member of the Cherokee Nation. I thought we were doing genealogy on >> this site, not fighting the Indian Wars all over again. >> Actually, I was trying to make peace between the two of you, by >> throwing in a bit of humor. >> Jo Ann >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jodi Friedman" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:46 PM >> Subject: [SPAM][NCWILKES] From a descendent of the Native people to >> Jo Ann >> >> >> > Jo Ann, >> > >> > I am a true and proven descendant of the Native people of the Rio >> > Grande and we do find it offensive when someone claims to be a >> > descendant of a Fake Chief. His ancestor was no Chief of the >> > Cherokee Nation. There was no Robert Arms or Chief RunningBear or >> > StandingBear in any Cherokee Nation per the tribes themselves. >> > There are many people who are out there that pretend to be Indian. >> > Why?????????????????? I am glad you find him amusing but the true >> > native people do not! >> > >> > Jodi >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> ___ >> ____________ >> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. >> > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message