Thanks Sharon. It's always helpful to get a new perspective and angle to chase. I haven't chased the disposition of the land so stay tuned. I avoided the whole Jesse son of Jeremiah, son of James, thing in my original email quite on purpose. As I continue to delve deeper into the Wilkes Caudill's, I continue to be amazed at the small "coincidences" that continue to surface. The Stephen Caudelle = Jeremiah's property is a prime example. Really keeps me going ... full of suprises. I can tell you that our one YDNA sample from the Jesse-line matched our one Jeremiah-sample extremely closely. Measuring 37 markers, we mismatched at two markers ~ both fast moving. Measuring those two results against a Stephen A. sample, we both mismatched four times at fast moving markers. Our two Stephen A. samples are a bit more distant yet clearly genetically related. I'm dying to get a James Jr. participant: to the extent that I'll pay the expense for a participant with a documented lineage back to James Jr. If you know anyone, let me know. Thanks as always and Happy hunting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Goetz" <sgoetz2@comcast.net> To: <ncwilkes@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] Joines + Caudill ~~~ Now that's Cool > Lenny, > Jesse P. Caudill purchased the property at public sale from Sheriff > Vannoy because property taxes etc where due at the time of Jeremiah > Caudill's death. I believe that Jeremiah Caudill died intestate (without > will). This is why Clayton Cox always believed that Jesse P. Caudill was > the son of Jeremiah rather than James Caudill, Jr. But, truthfully, > Clayton Cox also states that all the old-timers that he talked to stated > that Jesse P. Caudill was the son of James Caudill, Jr. Clayton Cox never > gives information whom he actually talked to or where he received his > information. > > Just because Jesse P. Caudill purchased the property at public sale does > not mean that he was the son of Jeremiah. I wonder if Jesse P. Caudill > could have had the property re-surveyed? If he did the re-survey might > mention something to the fact that it was purchased from his "father". If > something like this is mentioned in a re-survey that would prove that his > father was Jeremiah. I do not know if a re-survey was done. It is just an > idea. > > Sharon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lenny F. Caudill II" <lcaudill@triad.rr.com> > To: <NCWILKES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 12:57 AM > Subject: [NCWILKES] Joines + Caudill ~~~ Now that's Cool > > >>I was in the Register of Deeds Office today Wilkes County. I pulled a deed >>whereby Jesse Caudill (forget the numerous spellings) was granted land at >>auction May 4th, 1829. The land being sold was Jeremiah Caudill's. There >>are two tracts auctioned actually - two deeds. Book M p. 358 and Book M >>p.360. Jeremiah died at about this time and I'm wondering if maybe his >>estate wasn't being liquidated to satisfy his debts. >> >> As I was transcribing the deed tonight, the metes and bounds sounded >> incredibly familiar. The 100 acre tract described in 1829 adjoins land >> owned by Ezekial Joines, runs along Morgan's line, and is situated on the >> Roaring River. I started looking at other deeds I have and discovered >> that the description of this land is nearly VERBATIM from a grant to >> Stephen Caudelle from May 13, 1789 Book D p.48. (The distances and types >> of trees at the corners are exactly the same). That's a forty year time >> span! Instead of Ezekial Joines, the 1789 deed says Joines' line (Thomas >> Joines perhaps?). Ezekial Joines wasn't born until 1800 unless maybe it's >> his grandfather Ezekial in the 1789 deed. >> >> On the seventh day of January in 1801, William Caudill buys 100 acres of >> land from Israel Walters Book C-1, page 275-276 and it too shares a >> property line with Morgan's line. >> >> My hunch is that all this land is somewhere near Absher. >> >> If you know absolutely where any of this property is. Please write. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCWILKES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWILKES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lenny, I will check with DAR and see if anyone recent has joined under James Jr. although they will be female and I believe that you actually need a male descendant for DNA testing. Is that correct? If so I wonder if their are any SAR applicants for James Jr. that are recent. Just a thought! Thanks so much, Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lenny F. Caudill II" <lcaudill@triad.rr.com> To: <ncwilkes@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] Joines + Caudill ~~~ Now that's Cool > Thanks Sharon. It's always helpful to get a new perspective and angle to > chase. I haven't chased the disposition of the land so stay tuned. I > avoided the whole Jesse son of Jeremiah, son of James, thing in my > original email quite on purpose. > > As I continue to delve deeper into the Wilkes Caudill's, I continue to be > amazed at the small "coincidences" that continue to surface. The Stephen > Caudelle = Jeremiah's property is a prime example. Really keeps me going > ... full of suprises. > > I can tell you that our one YDNA sample from the Jesse-line matched our > one Jeremiah-sample extremely closely. Measuring 37 markers, we > mismatched at two markers ~ both fast moving. Measuring those two results > against a Stephen A. sample, we both mismatched four times at fast moving > markers. Our two Stephen A. samples are a bit more distant yet clearly > genetically related. I'm dying to get a James Jr. participant: to the > extent that I'll pay the expense for a participant with a documented > lineage back to James Jr. If you know anyone, let me know. > > Thanks as always and Happy hunting. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Goetz" <sgoetz2@comcast.net> > To: <ncwilkes@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] Joines + Caudill ~~~ Now that's Cool > > >> Lenny, >> Jesse P. Caudill purchased the property at public sale from Sheriff >> Vannoy because property taxes etc where due at the time of Jeremiah >> Caudill's death. I believe that Jeremiah Caudill died intestate (without >> will). This is why Clayton Cox always believed that Jesse P. Caudill was >> the son of Jeremiah rather than James Caudill, Jr. But, truthfully, >> Clayton Cox also states that all the old-timers that he talked to stated >> that Jesse P. Caudill was the son of James Caudill, Jr. Clayton Cox >> never >> gives information whom he actually talked to or where he received his >> information. >> >> Just because Jesse P. Caudill purchased the property at public sale >> does >> not mean that he was the son of Jeremiah. I wonder if Jesse P. Caudill >> could have had the property re-surveyed? If he did the re-survey might >> mention something to the fact that it was purchased from his "father". >> If >> something like this is mentioned in a re-survey that would prove that his >> father was Jeremiah. I do not know if a re-survey was done. It is just >> an >> idea. >> >> Sharon >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lenny F. Caudill II" <lcaudill@triad.rr.com> >> To: <NCWILKES-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 12:57 AM >> Subject: [NCWILKES] Joines + Caudill ~~~ Now that's Cool >> >> >>>I was in the Register of Deeds Office today Wilkes County. I pulled a >>>deed >>>whereby Jesse Caudill (forget the numerous spellings) was granted land at >>>auction May 4th, 1829. The land being sold was Jeremiah Caudill's. >>>There >>>are two tracts auctioned actually - two deeds. Book M p. 358 and Book M >>>p.360. Jeremiah died at about this time and I'm wondering if maybe his >>>estate wasn't being liquidated to satisfy his debts. >>> >>> As I was transcribing the deed tonight, the metes and bounds sounded >>> incredibly familiar. The 100 acre tract described in 1829 adjoins land >>> owned by Ezekial Joines, runs along Morgan's line, and is situated on >>> the >>> Roaring River. I started looking at other deeds I have and discovered >>> that the description of this land is nearly VERBATIM from a grant to >>> Stephen Caudelle from May 13, 1789 Book D p.48. (The distances and >>> types >>> of trees at the corners are exactly the same). That's a forty year time >>> span! Instead of Ezekial Joines, the 1789 deed says Joines' line >>> (Thomas >>> Joines perhaps?). Ezekial Joines wasn't born until 1800 unless maybe >>> it's >>> his grandfather Ezekial in the 1789 deed. >>> >>> On the seventh day of January in 1801, William Caudill buys 100 acres of >>> land from Israel Walters Book C-1, page 275-276 and it too shares a >>> property line with Morgan's line. >>> >>> My hunch is that all this land is somewhere near Absher. >>> >>> If you know absolutely where any of this property is. Please write. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCWILKES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCWILKES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWILKES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >