This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: immisty038 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/7268/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I saw these names and wondered if it was possible to be a deviation of the names HAND & HINCKLE/HINCKLY/HENCKLY/HENCKLY. I know HAND has been seen as HADLEY/HANDY and other variations. I know both families had been in VA in mid 1700's, with one family for sure in HARDY CO. VA in 1790's. Hinckle/Hinckleys were there also. And I believe this name, or another variation has been seen in the N.E. with HAND. As I haven't followed Hinckles, other then noticed those connected by area or marriage to my CARR line, let me give you info on HANDS. They came to Lynn MA ca 1636, and lived in MA till 1642, when they moved to Southampton, LongIsland.(now it is SUFFOLK CO. NY). ca 1660's, some of the sons of John & Alice HAND, the original immigrants, moved to CT, near Guilford and other areas there. One married a WRIGHT, I don't remember the others sposes names. The boys names were John, Joseph and ?. In ca 1695-1700, 3 of the Long ISland boys, Benjamen, Thomas and Shamgar, brothers of the CT boys, moved to CAPE MAY NJ. In later generations, sons of both the NY & NJ boys moved to VA. I know HINCKLE or variation along in eithe NY or NJ with HANDS. Other names were BARNES/BARNEY, SMITH, WRIGHT, STITES, SYKES, JONES, FOSTER, OSBORNE, TALMADGE, TOWNSEND, STUBBS, WHITTIER, and more I can't remember. Others that left NJ and ended up in VA were VALENTINE, BAUERS/BOWERS/POWERS/ TEETER, PARSONS, BADGELY, and more. They were said to have gone by CT, RI, DE, & MD before VA. BADGELY was a Baptist preacher. I know some of the HANDs moved to NC. Another original HAND in 1636 was Richard. He is said to have gone to CT, and on to VA at an early time. I saw some kind of record for him, but had no way of copying it. John & Richard were from KENT ENGLAND. The family had lived a few hundred years in WALES, and were originally from Germany. HAND was originally something else before England, and sometimes here. Sorry I don't remember what. Maybe this can give you some help. GINNY 2 p.s. HAND & HINCKLE went to New Design, MONROE IL in 1798 with Rev. David BADGELY Party. Many lived afterwards in ST.CLAIR CO. IL. Some of the HANDs remained in NC during the late 1700's. Perhaps this could be a connection to you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.