I descend from Thomas Irwin (1770-1853) mentioned in your post. I have him listed with a brother Francis Jr (c1780) and a sister Mary. They were children of Francis Irwin Sr (c1740s-1790s) and his wife Ann. The Irwin family came to Wilkes Co from Spotsylvania Co, VA, in the early 1780s. As you said, I also have Francis Irwin Jr marrying Ann Mullins on 7/10/1803 in Wilkes Co. The next record of him is in the 1850 Pettis Co, Missouri, census in District 68, household #134/134: Francis Ervin, 70, farmer, $1200, born VA Ann, 66, born NC Granville, 34, farmer, born KY Florinday (female), 25, born MO Emily F., 6, born MO Ann E., 4, born MO Sarah E., 2, born MO Also, living next door to them was apparently another son Larkin Ervin (age 42, born KY) who was living with 11 other Ervins ranging in age from 31 years to 10 months. The five people age 16 and over were born in KY. The seven people age 14 and younger were born in MO. It looks like Francis and Ann were married in 1803, and were living in KY by 1808 (when son Larkin was born). They may have lived there until about 1835 when they moved on into Missouri. Here is the 1860 Pettis Co, MO, census, Bowling Green Twp, p12, #75/75: Granville Erwin (44, farmer); $3460/$1500, born KY Florinda (36, MO) Emily F. (16, MO) Ann Eliza (14, MO) Sarah E. (13, MO) Margaret Jane (9, MO) Robert (7, MO) Rachel (5, MO) Thomas (2, MO) infant (1/12 MO) Francis (79, superanuated, VA) Elizabeth Steele (70, superanuated, VA) Lotte Ann (60, black, born SC) I had to look up "superanuated", but it looks like it means retired. Apparently his wife Ann Mullins had died during the 1850s. Also, in checking the 1870 census, I didn't find Francis so he may have died during the 1860s. The names in these censuses are very similar to those of the Irwins who stayed in Wilkes and Ashe Co, NC. Searching the censuses on ancestry.com there are a few Francis Ervin (etc) names that appear between 1810 and 1840, but it's hard to tell if they refer to the same person. Hope this helps! Jason Duncan http://www.webjmd.com -----Original Message----- From: jhpizarro@comcast.net [mailto:jhpizarro@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:19 PM Message Board Post: on 10 July 1803, Francis Ervin married Ann Mullins in Wilkes County NC. The Bondsman was Thomas Ervin. I believe these two men were really Francis ERWIN and Thomas ERWIN. Does anyone have any information on them and their parents or siblings? I am trying to prove or disprove that Francis ERWIN is my ancestor who is later found in Roane County Tennessee. --- [Pre-scanned for viruses by Internet America.]

I have some information on Conrad Eller, of Rowan and Wilkes. Would love to hear from others researching Conrad Eller of Wilkes Co. Some reseachers have him confused with the Conrad Eller, who resided in Rowan Co. all of his life. The Conrad that came to Wilkes was older than the one who remained in Rowan. Conrad Eller, of Wilkes, is on the 1810, Rowan Co. NC census, he is age 26-45, 2 females under 10, and 1 female 26-45. 1820 census Rowan Co. NC He has 1 male under 10, 1 male 26-45, 1 male 45 up. 3 females under 10, 1female 16-26, 1 female 26-45. The female 16-26 is Susan Sophie Eller, she married Charles Bullen (Bolin, Boldin), in Rowan Co. NC, in 1826. They and Conrad moved to Grayson Co. VA, and can be found there on 1828 tax list. By 1830 they were in Wilkes Co. NC. 1830 Wilkes Co. Census, Conrod has 2 males under 5, 1 male 5-10, and he is age 50-60. 1 female under 5, 1 female 5-10, 2 females 10-15 and 1 female 40-50. 1840 census Wilkes Co. NC Conrad has 1 male 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 15-20 and he is 60-70. 2 females under 5, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 15-20 and 1 female 20-30. The other Conrad Eller that remained in Rowan Co. Shows up on the 1830 census with 1 male under 5, 1 male 5-10, and he is 30-40. 2 females under 5, and 1 female 30-40. 1840 Rowan Co.Conrad Eller is age 40-50, 1 male under 5, 1 male 5-10. 1 male 10-15. 2 females 10-15, 2 females 15-20, and 1 female 40-50. This shows ther are 2 Conrad Ellers. The Jacob Eller Book, has them as one person. This is wrong. Ther were two. Jean Reynolds

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Arms/Armes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xUB.2ACE/4245.1.1 Message Board Post: Leslie, Would you happen to know the children of Robert Arms & Frankie Virginia Fugett? Thanks elohnah

I got it from another Church

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Arms Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xUB.2ACE/4245.1 Message Board Post: My great, great grandmother was Martha Adeline Sizemore (b. 1835 Ashe Co. NC). She was Robert Arms' grandaughter. Her mother was Frankie Virginia "Jennie" Arms (m. to Rev. John Sizemore.) Jennie's parents were Robert Arms & Martha Fugett.) From what I know...Adeline escaped the Trail of Tears by going up into W VA mountains with her grandfather. I'm not sure which grandfather- Robert Arms or Edward B. Sizemore. FYI- Adeline and husband Numa Walker (b.1829) lived mostly around the Beckley and Egeria W. Va. areas. Adeline is buried in the Keaton Mills Cemetary (for sure) in or near Beckley, West Virginia. I hope this helps. I'm new to this family research stuff but I hope this helps. Maybe Robert ended up in West Virginia as well.

Linda: Do you have this information: The value of the lands of Amos Sr. at his death between $1000.00 to $2000.00. Amos Jr paid Rebecca $40.00 for her widow's share of the 150 acre homeplace, and he paid $60.00 for Amy's share in 1858 and again $75.00 to the widow. It was also stated that another son of Amos Sr., Elijah and his wife Ann Blanton, lived on a portion of the property on the north side of the Yadkin River above Fish Dam Creek. A deed of 5 Mar 1834 indicates that Amos Sr. had purchased an additional 100 acre tract from Conrad Eller. This land was on the south side of the Yadkin. Since Amos Jr. had also died by the time of the 1881 suit, two of his sons, Thomas J. and Joel L., were subpoened to testify in Amy's behalf.

Thanks for the data. I did not read that deed. I wonder were that deed is listed? I did not find in in Grantors book for Wilkes CO Marriage bond July 17 1821 Amos ELLER- Betsy ELLER bondsman Coonrad ELLER Jeanie RaeSunshin@aol.com wrote: Linda: Do you have this information: The value of the lands of Amos Sr. at his death between $1000.00 to $2000.00. Amos Jr paid Rebecca $40.00 for her widow's share of the 150 acre homeplace, and he paid $60.00 for Amy's share in 1858 and again $75.00 to the widow. It was also stated that another son of Amos Sr., Elijah and his wife Ann Blanton, lived on a portion of the property on the north side of the Yadkin River above Fish Dam Creek. A deed of 5 Mar 1834 indicates that Amos Sr. had purchased an additional 100 acre tract from Conrad Eller. This land was on the south side of the Yadkin. Since Amos Jr. had also died by the time of the 1881 suit, two of his sons, Thomas J. and Joel L., were subpoened to testify in Amy's behalf. --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Church,Miller,Adams,Cannon,Love Lunceford Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xUB.2ACE/4225.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Do you have any more information on the land that was sold to Amos Church?Where is was or anything else.I am descended from Amos Church Sr,Amos Church JR,Calvin A Church,James Henry Church and Frank David Church.........Thank you for any info you might have Linda Flanary BLEFLA@CHARTERTN.NET

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Eller/Minton/Pennington/Dick Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xUB.2ACE/4225.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the reference on Conrad Eller. I also found - In a sherif sale in in 1835 it appears that much ofl Conrads estate was sold off. same year Conrad Eller land was deeded to an Amos Church Sr. Agust 8 1820 a Conrad Eller married Mary Eller -Paul Eller bonds man August 26 1844 a Conrad Eller married Eliza Laws Sept 4 1850 census Montgomery Eller age 20 not with a wife. different house Alexander Eller age 26 marriage bond August 15 1850 Hugh H Eller + N. Bunker ,bonds man Henry Eller marriage bond Jan 2 1860 Levi Eller and Elizabeth Davis several marriage bonds for an Alexander Eller

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xUB.2ACE/4257 Message Board Post: Need names and birth, marriage, death dates and burial places for the Odorn (Odom) Spears family. I want my records to be correct, and I'm not sure some of them are. Any help is appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xUB.2ACE/4250.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the information. I would like to buy one. I know that there is one in the library but would like to have one of my own.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Eller Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xUB.2ACE/4225.1 Message Board Post: You may be looking for Coonrod Eller, son of John Melchoir Eller. An article that I found in the Eller Chronicles at the Wilkes Library, states Coonrod Eller, son of John Melchoir/Melker Eller (son of Casper Eller), may have been born abt. 1775. Pension application suggests he was born ca 1790. He died ca1845, in Wilkes Co., NC. He is said to be buried on his farm, located in Moravian Falls, Wilkes Co., NC. According to this researcher, he was married at least two or three times and had several sons. Among them were, Alexander "Alec/Alex", Levi and Hugh Montgomery "Mont". This article compiled by Andy Johnson, isn't found on the Eller Chronicles website, you will have to go to the Wilkes Library and look in the books if you want to read it in full. It is located in Vol XI November 1997 issue. Also, another article in the Eller Chronicles about this line of Eller's is located in Vol XII-1 February 1998. It is compiled by Marjorie Godfrey, another descendant. Good Luck!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Conley Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xUB.2ACE/4241.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hazel, I checked the index for a John Conley and didn't find one. Sorry. Dee

Hello, Dee, Would you mind checking for Elisha Reynolds, or any Reynolds for that matter. They were in Wilkes (Surry) from the early 1700s. Thanks so much for your time. Margaret Reynolds Oliver Original Message: ----------------- From: deller78@msn.com Date: 21 Jul 2006 06:55:34 -0600 To: NCWILKES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCWILKES] Re: Books This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xUB.2ACE/4250.1 Message Board Post: If you check ebay, sometimes you will find it there. It usually goes for at least 75 to 100 dollars. The western counties of NC(Ashe, Wilkes, Watauga) will usually have a copy in their genealogy room. I have my own copy, and if you have a specific article or family you would like info on, I wouldn't mind looking for you. Dee -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

I just got a wonderful idea from the previous post. If there is anyone with Staley/Segraves family pictures willing to share. Please let me know. A copy or scan would be great. Thanks, Jimmie Staley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xUB.2ACE/4250.1 Message Board Post: If you check ebay, sometimes you will find it there. It usually goes for at least 75 to 100 dollars. The western counties of NC(Ashe, Wilkes, Watauga) will usually have a copy in their genealogy room. I have my own copy, and if you have a specific article or family you would like info on, I wouldn't mind looking for you. Dee

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xUB.2ACE/4256 Message Board Post: Anyone have photos they are willing to scan and share of the John Martin Powell, Charley Edgar Wyatt and other Thomas Spears/ Elizabeth Malissa Griffith (Griffey) families? Individuals or groups?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xUB.2ACE/4255 Message Board Post: Need information on Martha M. Griffith, dau of Barnett Griffith and Elizabeth Cardwell. Martha b. May 1849, Wilkes Co. I don't have information on her first husband (I was told he was a Tedder?) Children: 1. Rebecca J. - b @ 1872 2. Rosa E. - b. @ 1879 3. unknown - died Rosa m. Green Griffith (Griffey). Martha m. 2nd James C. Benge.

Could this be who you are looking for? Descendants of Francis Irwin, Sr. Generation No. 1 1. FRANCIS2 IRWIN, SR. (JAMES1) was born Abt. 1740 in Spotsylvania County, Virginia, and died Abt. 1800 in Maybe Wilkes County, North CVarolina. He married ANNE ANN UNKNOWN Abt. 1768 in Virginia. She died Aft. 1802. Notes for FRANCIS IRWIN, SR.: Living in Spotsylvania County, Va. 1763. 1786 in Wilkes County, North Carolina Francis Irwin, Sr. Born: About 1740 possibly in Spotsylvania, VA Died: Before 1800 in Wilkes County, NC Married: Ann __?__ about 1768 in Virginia Three Known Children: 1. Thomas Irwin, born abt. 1770. 2. Francis Irwin, Jr., born abt. 1780. 3. Mary Irwin Children of FRANCIS IRWIN and ANNE UNKNOWN are: i. THOMAS3 IRWIN, b. Abt. 1770, St. George Parish, Spotsylvania County, Virginia/Wilkes County, North Carolina; d. 25 Nov 1853, North Carolina/Fonthill, Russell County, Kentucky; m. AGNESS JANE SHEPPHERD SHEPHERD, Bet. 1792 - 1795, North Carolina; b. 08 Feb 1775, Spotsylvania County, Virginia/Ashe County, North Carolina; d. 18 Mar 1856, North Carolina. Notes for THOMAS IRWIN: All the children except Elijah and Alley went to Ky. with their parents. They stayed in N. C, They lived in Wilkes County, North Carolina on the North fork of Reddis River. Thomas and Agnes settled on Goose Creek in Russell County, Ky. where they died. Roots web WorldConnect only lists 12 children. Thomas Irwin Born: About 1770 Died: November 25, 1853 in Russell County, KY Married: Agnes Shepherd (Daughter of Robert & Sarah Rash Shepherd) in Wilkes County, NC Thirteen Known Children (All Born in Wilkes County, NC): 1. Elijah Irwin, born 1792/93. 2. Thomas P. Irwin 3. Alley Irwin, born Mar. 6, 1797. 4. Squire Irwin 5. Nancy Irwin Thomas, born ca. 1798. 6. Andrew Irwin, born ca. 1799. 7. William Irwin, born ca. 1800. 8. Sally Irwin Shepherd, born ca. 1803. 9. Robert Irwin, born ca. 1810. 10. Larkin Irwin, born ca. 1812. 11. Franklin Irwin 12. Elizabeth Irwin Spencer More About THOMAS IRWIN: Burial: Squire Irwin Cemetery, Prathers Creek Rd., Stratford, North Carolina Rd# 1162 John Petty home, down stream 100 yds. up ridge 1/. ii. FRANCIS IRWIN, JR., b. Abt. 1780, Virginia; m. ANN MULLINS, 10 Jul 1803, Wilkes County, North Carolina. iii. NANCY IRWIN, b. Abt. 1780, Wilkes County, North Carolina. iv. MARY IRWIN, b. Abt. 1782, Wilkes County, North Carolina. v. PHEBEY IRWIN, b. Abt. 1785, Wilkes County, North Carolina. vi. AGNESS IRWIN, b. Abt. 1790, Wilkes County, North Carolina. > > on 10 July 1803, Francis Ervin married Ann Mullins in Wilkes County NC. > The Bondsman was Thomas Ervin. > > I believe these two men were really Francis ERWIN and Thomas ERWIN. Does > anyone have any information on them and their parents or siblings? I am > trying to prove or disprove that Francis ERWIN is my ancestor who is later > found in Roane County Tennessee.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Land, Knight , & related families Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xUB.2ACE/4254 Message Board Post: These are my paternal gr,gr, grandparents. While my Land ancestors have been traced to England in the 1600's, no one to my knowledge has been able to verify the parents of Rebecca Knight born abt 1825. Died after 1870. Can anyone please help ???? Glenn