This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MLSopp Surnames: Holbrook, Sprinkle, Bauguess Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/7265.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tracy posted to the Wilkes Co. Message Board looking for information on Fannie Sprinkle Holbrook. Fannie was the d/o Robert Sprinkle & Sarah Bauguess. Fannie was the informant on Tracy's great grandmother's death certificate when her great grandmother died in Oliver Springs, Morgan Co., TN in 1930. I think that Fannie Sprinkle Holbrook is the Fannie Holbrook on the 1930 census in Edwards Twp., Wilkes Co., NC. The Wilkes Co. Fannie was 43 at the time the census was taken, suggesting a birth of about 1887, which meshes with the year of birth Tracy has for Fannie. The 1900 census shows that Fannie was born Apr 1887 (of course the month and/or year on the 1900 census could be wrong, but the year is undoubtedly pretty close). The Wilkes Co. Fannie's husband was Oliver Holbrook. The World War I draft registration cards show that Oliver Holbrook was born 21 Aug 1890, Traphill, Wilkes Co., NC. He & Fannie are on the 1920 census, living in Edwards Twp., as in 1930. Fannie was 32 on the 1920 census, meshing ok with the birth year Tracy suggests. The SSDI shows that Oliver Holbrook died Sept 1965. I cannot find him in the NC Death Index. Did he die out of state? Or am I stupidly missing him in the index? The SSDI & the NC Death Index include a Fannie Holbrook who died 14 Mar 1986 in Wilkes Co.(SSDI showing a last residence of Traphill). But! Those records give a birth of 25 Oct 1897, making her a good 10 years younger than Fannie Sprinkle and of the Fannie on the 1920 & 1930 censuses. Could the SSDI & Death Index date of birth be incorrect? Or were there two Fannie Holbrook's living in Wilkes Co.? Curious, eh? Margaret (Note: If you are reading this message on the Wilkes Co. List and wish to reply, remember, this is a Wilkes Message Board query, not a Wilkes Co. List post. To reply you will need to click on the blue link and type your reply at the Wilkes Co. Message Board or I will not see it.) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Tracyjones37659 Surnames: Sprinkle, Bauguess, Halbrook/ Holbrook Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/7265/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm trying to find out information on Fannie Sprinkle Halbrook/Holbrook. Fannie was born abt. 1887 in Elkins, Surry Co. N.C. her parents were Robert Sprinkle and Sarah Anne Bauguess. I know she married A Halbrook/ Holbrook. She was in Oliver Springs, Morgan Co. Tn in 1930. She's listed on My Great Grandmothers Death Certificate. I don't know if she stayed in Oliver Springs or went back home to North Carolina. Thanks For any help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yaffa2267 Surnames: Tedder, Fuentes, De La Cruz, Hubbard, Riddle Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/7264/mb.ashx Message Board Post: MT-DNA results for Martha FLorence Fuentes is Haplogroup B. Martha has been confirmed as being Native American not Spainsh. Her parents were Geronimo Fuentes and Eulogia De La Cruz from the Rio Grande. Martha was the wife of Sam Gentle ( 1st husband- died in the Spanish-American War ) Her 2nd husband was Willaim Green Tedder, son of William Hubbard Tedder and Mary Elizabeth Riddle. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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I am trying to locate information on John Fortner and his wife Elizabeth (Highfill) Fortner, or any family descendants of John.They were married in Wilkes County, NC 26 Oct 1816.

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This happened when my 5th great grandparents farm was sold out of the family. No provisions were made to build a fence around the plot that set in the middle of the field. The new owners took up the stones, plowed over it and planted their crops. I have seen numerous family plots fenced sitting in the middle of fields. However, I have been told by people that watched and witnessed lakes being built on top of old graves also. There does not seem to be enough time allowed for people to find out about these cemeteries. At least you can be thankful that they were handled with consideration. They were dug up, put in coffins, and buried at a regular cemetery where they will not be bothered again. I watched all of this on tv. ----- Original Message ----- From: <jlynndagenhart@netzero.net> To: <ncwilkes@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] NC Law re: Removal of Graves > The even sadder part is that Ray Starnes sold the land knowing possibly > that his Family was buried there/unless His father had plowed it under > before he was born. > Something seems very strange. there is no mention of field stones. > Everyone of those graves would have been at one tine marked at the head > and foot with native field stones at the very least some of which may > have had names or dates scratched on them.I just got off the phone with > the Mayer of Granite falls who has promised to secure and send me a copy > of the report done as each grave was removed. > I confirmed each set of remains was in a separate box and that at least > ten boxes were buried per grave or plot at Sunset Cemetery. > The Mayor indicates Ray Starnes claimed not to know about the cemetery but > his Older Cousin Now 100 knew about it. I am inclined to believe that the > Stones were removed and the cemetery plowed over by a member of the > Starnes Family sometime in the last 20-40 years so as to make the area > safer for cattle to graze.. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWILKES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: collcons Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/1257.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry. I do not know. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: leevis11 Surnames: Collins, Posting Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/7263/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Collins Cousins Reunion 2007 Saturday, June 23rd, at Noblett Lake Pavilion in Douglas Co. MO Meet at 10 Eat at 12. Bring Lawn Chairs, and a Covered dish for GOOD FOOD and Lots of Visiting, and Stories with Relatives, and old Friends. Email with questions: leevis11@verizon.net or ringtail3@verizon.net Hope to see you there all relatives descended from David Collins 1750 your name doesn't have to be Collins just a descendant of David Collins 1750 and Thompsey Posting by any surname. We would love to see you there. David Collins 1750 and Thompsey Posting came from North Carolina which is the earliest I have them in Rowan, Bertie Countys, also Rowan County for North Carolina, and also in Grayson County, Virginia. Later on in Indiana, Kentucky and Missouri. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yaffa2267 Surnames: Riddle Reid Reed Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/1257.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would you happen to know if Irvin Reid/Ervin Reed is related to Stephen? My 2nd Great Grandfather William Green Tedder is not quite white. He is believed to be part Indian.His wife was. He is very dark.His mother was Mary Riddle daughter of Debby Riddle.Debby Riddle is the Daughter of John T. Riddle. William Green's father was William Hubbard Tedder Irvin Reid married Elizabeth Riddle. Debby was Elizabeth Riddle's sister. Irvin Reid ( per a deceased Tedder genealogist ) was said to have fathered both Elizabeth and Debby's 2 children Mary and Leander. Any of this story ring a bell? Thanks Jodi Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yaffa2267 Surnames: Byrd Bird Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/7232.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a Byrd/Bird line from Wilkes. Some moved on to Caldwell County check your research there too. Caldwell County Register of Deeds has a lot of records online. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Are you related to Patrick Sloan and Mollie Walker?

The location shown on this map isn't far at all from Mackie Funeral Home. Unless WM bought up all those old brick buildings that are along old 321, I don't recall there being enough vacant land or other place for them to build on "jlynndagenhart@netzero.net" <jlynndagenhart@netzero.net> wrote: the proposed Walmart is not far from current Grace Chapel Church. near 321 and riverbend road. http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=&city=granite%20falls&state=nc&zipcode=&country=US&geodiff=1#east A Title search would give enough information to have a place to start. There are also old county maps that can be studied as well as the census once a point of reference is established. 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Thank you. If I am correct, that is the present day cemetery. There was one prior to that someplace close by this one. Thanks again, Selena ----- Original Message ----- From: Tina Hess Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:59 PM To: ncwilkes@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] Old Damacus Church Cemetery There is a Damascus Baptist Church listed in Harmony, off SR 1158 and SR 1582. I found this listed in the National Register of Historical Places. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Selena Goodin" <Gracie11288@msn.com> To: <ncwilkes@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: [NCWILKES] Old Damacus Church Cemetery > Does anyone know where to find records from the Old Damacus Baptist Church > Cemetery in northern Iredell County? We are looking for burial sites that > may be there for the Goodin family, Sloan family and/or Brotherton > families. > Thank you, > Selena GoodinGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWILKES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWILKES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the messageGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

There is a Damascus Baptist Church listed in Harmony, off SR 1158 and SR 1582. I found this listed in the National Register of Historical Places. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Selena Goodin" <Gracie11288@msn.com> To: <ncwilkes@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: [NCWILKES] Old Damacus Church Cemetery > Does anyone know where to find records from the Old Damacus Baptist Church > Cemetery in northern Iredell County? We are looking for burial sites that > may be there for the Goodin family, Sloan family and/or Brotherton > families. > Thank you, > Selena GoodinGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWILKES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The plot thickens Local rumor has it that Ray Starnes removed the fieldstones years ago and plowed the land under and then played dumb when he sold the land. Rumors were even falsely reported that it was an old slave graveyard. Only problem only One Starnes and No Bisner ever owned slaves in the area. The Final proof lies in the sale of the land between 1880 and 1900 will get that info soon

The Bisnar records would precede the on line link

The even sadder part is that Ray Starnes sold the land knowing possibly that his Family was buried there/unless His father had plowed it under before he was born. Something seems very strange. there is no mention of field stones. Everyone of those graves would have been at one tine marked at the head and foot with native field stones at the very least some of which may have had names or dates scratched on them.I just got off the phone with the Mayer of Granite falls who has promised to secure and send me a copy of the report done as each grave was removed. I confirmed each set of remains was in a separate box and that at least ten boxes were buried per grave or plot at Sunset Cemetery. The Mayor indicates Ray Starnes claimed not to know about the cemetery but his Older Cousin Now 100 knew about it. I am inclined to believe that the Stones were removed and the cemetery plowed over by a member of the Starnes Family sometime in the last 20-40 years so as to make the area safer for cattle to graze..

Great! I don't know of anyone in Lenoir that I can send to the courthouse. I now live in Colorado, so any research I do is on the internet. All of my family still in Lenoir either work or would have no idea how to do the research. But, it sounds as though you've gotten a lot done, already. Does this mean that the remains were placed, one body per box? That would certainly be a lot better! Cindy -----Original Message----- From: ncwilkes-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncwilkes-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jlynndagenhart@netzero.net Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 9:45 AM To: ncwilkes@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] NC Law re: Removal of Graves Cindy Just spoke with the reporter.Linda Story's offcie also advised me that they ran notcies in The Lenoir News Topic. One source says the remains were put in wooden boxes and placed ten boxes to a common grave or plot. I have to research the deeds from 1880 when Sarah Salina Starnes was living with her Cousin Simon Pinkney Bisnar and 1900 when she and Husband William E Tolbert are on the land that was sold by their grandson Ray to Walmart. The Bisnars are no longer in Caldwell in 1900 so their should be a land sale. Several sources have led me to believe this is The Old Bisnar burial Ground yet Simona and Rachel Starnes Bisnar(parents of Simon P and Aunt and Uncle of Sarah Satrenes) are allegedly buried at Pine crest in Granite Falls. If someone can go to the registrars and look for the sale of the land by Simon P Bisnar after 1880 we might have our missing link. Sarah Starnes had two sons Edgar V and Oliver P after 1886 both went by Satrens but may have been Bisnars. I interviewed 100 year old Maureen Starens Moore who remembered the Cemetery and thinks it was the Bisnar cemetery ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWILKES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message