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    1. Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] From a descendent of the Native people to JoAnn
    2. Celia Becker
    3. Dear Jo Ann; I descend from the Sizemores out of Clay County, Kentucky. Do you have the contact info of the lady who has done all the research? I saw the "Wall Street Journal" article and some links from that discussed part of the family being Cherokee and part being something else. Part of the discussion centers around Red Bird Sizemore, if I recall correctly off the top of my head without digging through three rather thick files on my Collins which had intermarried with the Sizemores. Now getting back to Wilkes County North Carolina genealogy, if there's anyone in Wilkes' county working on Walkers, particularly on the descendants of Daly Walker who was in Burke County in 1778 and then Wilkes by 1796, I'd like to know that also. I'm going more than a little bonkers trying to identify the James Walker who was the FATHER of my William Dale/Daly (has been written both ways) Walker b. 1821-22 North Carolina. I figured with the middle name of Dale/Daly he probably was connected to the Walkers of Wilkes Co., or at least that was a good place to start looking. Sincerely, Cecilia L. Fabos-Becker -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jodi Friedman Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 6:37 PM To: Jo Ann Whitworth; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] From a descendent of the Native people to JoAnn Jo Ann, It's not that. He can play a wanna-be all he wants. He makes himself look foolish. The woman he posted to and insulted is a descendant of the native people of VA. She has worked realy hard on Sizemore research. She has put dignity back in the Sizemore name from all the Cherokee claims. They were not Cherokee but of a VA tribe and he had no right to speak to her or anyone else that way on this or any board. Yes this is about genealogy but he didn't post genealogy only rude comments and attacked someone for no reason. Comments like his don't belong in the forum. Jodi --- Jo Ann Whitworth <[email protected]> wrote: > Jodi, my grandmother was said to be a full-blooded > Cherokee, so if that ever > gets proven then I guess that would make me a a > descendent of the Native > people, too. But I still say, let the guy alone. > If he thinks there was a > Robert Arms, or a Chief RunningBear, more power to > him. I did not say I > found him amusing, I said I was amused by his (and > your) messages, and all > this fuss about who is and who is not a member of > the Cherokee Nation. I > thought we were doing genealogy on this site, not > fighting the Indian Wars > all over again. > Actually, I was trying to make peace between the two > of you, by throwing in > a bit of humor. > Jo Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jodi Friedman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:46 PM > Subject: [SPAM][NCWILKES] From a descendent of the > Native people to Jo Ann > > > > Jo Ann, > > > > I am a true and proven descendant of the Native > people > > of the Rio Grande and we do find it offensive when > > someone claims to be a descendant of a Fake Chief. > His > > ancestor was no Chief of the Cherokee Nation. > There > > was no Robert Arms or Chief RunningBear or > > StandingBear in any Cherokee Nation per the tribes themselves. There > > are many people who are out > there > > that pretend to be Indian. Why?????????????????? I > am > > glad you find him amusing but the true native > people > > do not! > > > > Jodi > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 2/16/2008 2:16 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.7/1283 - Release Date: 2/16/2008 2:16 PM

    02/16/2008 02:07:44
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM]Re: From a descendent of the Native people to JoAnn
    2. Jo Ann Whitworth
    3. Thanks, Steven, I would love to be able to prove descendent, but I am from the female line, and my understanding is that only males in the line can take the DNA, is that correct or am I mistaken? Thanks for your sweet note, Cindy. I think we should all just be "Indians" and let the "Chiefs" fight it out themselves, regardless of what race or nation they come from. I am a proven descendent of a pure-dee Moonshiner, but if someone emails the board claiming to be Al C.(the Chicago gangster), I am not going to get uptight about it. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: [SPAM]Re: [NCWILKES] From a descendent of the Native people to JoAnn > one good way of proving american indian bloodlines is going to FTDNA and > testing your Y-DNA and/or mtDNA....best option if you can't prove it on > paper.... > Steven > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Beam, Cindy L" <[email protected]> > >> Jo Ann, >> >> I've been reading the posts, and I have to say you were doing a good job >> of trying to defuse the tension. I, too, am supposed to be descended >> from the Cherokee, according to family stories, and I have no proof of >> that being a fact. Thank you for trying to "keep the peace". >> >> Cindy >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jo Ann Whitworth >> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:46 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] From a descendent of the Native people to >> JoAnn >> >> Jodi, my grandmother was said to be a full-blooded Cherokee, so if that >> ever gets proven then I guess that would make me a a descendent of the >> Native people, too. But I still say, let the guy alone. If he thinks >> there was a Robert Arms, or a Chief RunningBear, more power to him. I >> did not say I found him amusing, I said I was amused by his (and your) >> messages, and all this fuss about who is and who is not a member of the >> Cherokee Nation. I thought we were doing genealogy on this site, not >> fighting the Indian Wars all over again. >> Actually, I was trying to make peace between the two of you, by throwing >> in a bit of humor. >> Jo Ann >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jodi Friedman" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:46 PM >> Subject: [SPAM][NCWILKES] From a descendent of the Native people to Jo >> Ann >> >> >> > Jo Ann, >> > >> > I am a true and proven descendant of the Native people >> > of the Rio Grande and we do find it offensive when >> > someone claims to be a descendant of a Fake Chief. His >> > ancestor was no Chief of the Cherokee Nation. There >> > was no Robert Arms or Chief RunningBear or >> > StandingBear in any Cherokee Nation per the tribes >> > themselves. There are many people who are out there >> > that pretend to be Indian. Why?????????????????? I am >> > glad you find him amusing but the true native people >> > do not! >> > >> > Jodi >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> ____________ >> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. >> > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/16/2008 01:57:42
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] Jo Ann - PS
    2. Jodi Friedman
    3. Jo Ann This is not the first time he did this. He has attacked the same person in previous posts on this board and they were pulled off too. This was a few moths back. He just decided to come on the board yesterday and do it again for no resason. Jodi --- Jo Ann Whitworth <[email protected]> wrote: > Jodi, my grandmother was said to be a full-blooded > Cherokee, so if that ever > gets proven then I guess that would make me a a > descendent of the Native > people, too. But I still say, let the guy alone. > If he thinks there was a > Robert Arms, or a Chief RunningBear, more power to > him. I did not say I > found him amusing, I said I was amused by his (and > your) messages, and all > this fuss about who is and who is not a member of > the Cherokee Nation. I > thought we were doing genealogy on this site, not > fighting the Indian Wars > all over again. > Actually, I was trying to make peace between the two > of you, by throwing in > a bit of humor. > Jo Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jodi Friedman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:46 PM > Subject: [SPAM][NCWILKES] From a descendent of the > Native people to Jo Ann > > > > Jo Ann, > > > > I am a true and proven descendant of the Native > people > > of the Rio Grande and we do find it offensive when > > someone claims to be a descendant of a Fake Chief. > His > > ancestor was no Chief of the Cherokee Nation. > There > > was no Robert Arms or Chief RunningBear or > > StandingBear in any Cherokee Nation per the tribes > > themselves. There are many people who are out > there > > that pretend to be Indian. Why?????????????????? I > am > > glad you find him amusing but the true native > people > > do not! > > > > Jodi > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

    02/16/2008 11:44:35
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] From a descendent of the Native people to Jo Ann
    2. Jodi Friedman
    3. Jo Ann, It's not that. He can play a wanna-be all he wants. He makes himself look foolish. The woman he posted to and insulted is a descendant of the native people of VA. She has worked realy hard on Sizemore research. She has put dignity back in the Sizemore name from all the Cherokee claims. They were not Cherokee but of a VA tribe and he had no right to speak to her or anyone else that way on this or any board. Yes this is about genealogy but he didn't post genealogy only rude comments and attacked someone for no reason. Comments like his don't belong in the forum. Jodi --- Jo Ann Whitworth <[email protected]> wrote: > Jodi, my grandmother was said to be a full-blooded > Cherokee, so if that ever > gets proven then I guess that would make me a a > descendent of the Native > people, too. But I still say, let the guy alone. > If he thinks there was a > Robert Arms, or a Chief RunningBear, more power to > him. I did not say I > found him amusing, I said I was amused by his (and > your) messages, and all > this fuss about who is and who is not a member of > the Cherokee Nation. I > thought we were doing genealogy on this site, not > fighting the Indian Wars > all over again. > Actually, I was trying to make peace between the two > of you, by throwing in > a bit of humor. > Jo Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jodi Friedman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:46 PM > Subject: [SPAM][NCWILKES] From a descendent of the > Native people to Jo Ann > > > > Jo Ann, > > > > I am a true and proven descendant of the Native > people > > of the Rio Grande and we do find it offensive when > > someone claims to be a descendant of a Fake Chief. > His > > ancestor was no Chief of the Cherokee Nation. > There > > was no Robert Arms or Chief RunningBear or > > StandingBear in any Cherokee Nation per the tribes > > themselves. There are many people who are out > there > > that pretend to be Indian. Why?????????????????? I > am > > glad you find him amusing but the true native > people > > do not! > > > > Jodi > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

    02/16/2008 11:37:29
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] From a descendent of the Native people to Jo Ann
    2. Jo Ann Whitworth
    3. Jodi, my grandmother was said to be a full-blooded Cherokee, so if that ever gets proven then I guess that would make me a a descendent of the Native people, too. But I still say, let the guy alone. If he thinks there was a Robert Arms, or a Chief RunningBear, more power to him. I did not say I found him amusing, I said I was amused by his (and your) messages, and all this fuss about who is and who is not a member of the Cherokee Nation. I thought we were doing genealogy on this site, not fighting the Indian Wars all over again. Actually, I was trying to make peace between the two of you, by throwing in a bit of humor. Jo Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jodi Friedman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:46 PM Subject: [SPAM][NCWILKES] From a descendent of the Native people to Jo Ann > Jo Ann, > > I am a true and proven descendant of the Native people > of the Rio Grande and we do find it offensive when > someone claims to be a descendant of a Fake Chief. His > ancestor was no Chief of the Cherokee Nation. There > was no Robert Arms or Chief RunningBear or > StandingBear in any Cherokee Nation per the tribes > themselves. There are many people who are out there > that pretend to be Indian. Why?????????????????? I am > glad you find him amusing but the true native people > do not! > > Jodi > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/16/2008 10:45:53
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] wikapedia definition: JOSH
    2. jim price
    3. I also have Cherokee ancestors and this guy "Josh" is telling you up front that he is a fake. Just checkout wikapedia for yourself. Meanings "Josh" is also a verb meaning "to joke with or kid."good hunting--------------jim---------------- > Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 11:46:01 -0800> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: [NCWILKES] From a descendent of the Native people to Jo Ann> > Jo Ann,> > I am a true and proven descendant of the Native people> of the Rio Grande and we do find it offensive when> someone claims to be a descendant of a Fake Chief. His> ancestor was no Chief of the Cherokee Nation. There> was no Robert Arms or Chief RunningBear or> StandingBear in any Cherokee Nation per the tribes> themselves. There are many people who are out there> that pretend to be Indian. Why?????????????????? I am> glad you find him amusing but the true native people> do not!> > Jodi> > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/

    02/16/2008 06:31:34
    1. [NCWILKES] From a descendent of the Native people to Jo Ann
    2. Jodi Friedman
    3. Jo Ann, I am a true and proven descendant of the Native people of the Rio Grande and we do find it offensive when someone claims to be a descendant of a Fake Chief. His ancestor was no Chief of the Cherokee Nation. There was no Robert Arms or Chief RunningBear or StandingBear in any Cherokee Nation per the tribes themselves. There are many people who are out there that pretend to be Indian. Why?????????????????? I am glad you find him amusing but the true native people do not! Jodi ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

    02/16/2008 04:46:01
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] Heads up to all on this board
    2. Jodi Friedman
    3. Jo Ann, I am a true and proven descendant of the Native people of the Rio Grande and we do find it offensive when someone claims to be a descendant of a Fake Chief. His ancestor was no Chief of the Cherokee Nation. There was no Robert Arms or Chief RunningBear or StandingBear in any Cherokee Nation per the tribes themselves. There are many people who are out there that pretend to be Indian. Why?????????????????? Jodi --- Jo Ann Whitworth <[email protected]> wrote: > Runningbear has been leaving Chicken messages??????? > No wonder I am amused > when I read his posted messages. > > Sorry, Jodi, couldn't resist the "very fowl" in your > message. :) He's not > doing any harm. Let him vent, I would want to vent, > too, if I was Native > American, due to the way Whites have treated the > Indian. Although I do > admit that this board is not the right vehicle for > venting. Hopefully once > he gets rid of all that anger, he will become a good > Genealogist and a > credit to his race. And Standing Bear, the > Cherokees were a great > Race/Tribe and when the Lord restores them to their > rightful place, I'll be > standing on the sidelines cheering them one and all. > Jo Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jodi Friedman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:23 AM > Subject: [SPAM][NCWILKES] Heads up to all on this > board > > > > It seems there is a certain poster by the name of > Josh > > Standing Bear that has been leaving very fowl > > messages. > > Per the Cherokee Nations there is no Chief Running > > Bear in their tribes. He also posts under Talks to > > Animals. Report him if he continues to make > > problems.Keep our boards safe This appears to be > his > > web http://the-bears-den.net/default.aspx > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

    02/16/2008 04:33:16
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] [SPAM] Heads up to all on this board
    2. Jo Ann Whitworth
    3. Runningbear has been leaving Chicken messages??????? No wonder I am amused when I read his posted messages. Sorry, Jodi, couldn't resist the "very fowl" in your message. :) He's not doing any harm. Let him vent, I would want to vent, too, if I was Native American, due to the way Whites have treated the Indian. Although I do admit that this board is not the right vehicle for venting. Hopefully once he gets rid of all that anger, he will become a good Genealogist and a credit to his race. And Standing Bear, the Cherokees were a great Race/Tribe and when the Lord restores them to their rightful place, I'll be standing on the sidelines cheering them one and all. Jo Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jodi Friedman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:23 AM Subject: [SPAM][NCWILKES] Heads up to all on this board > It seems there is a certain poster by the name of Josh > Standing Bear that has been leaving very fowl > messages. > Per the Cherokee Nations there is no Chief Running > Bear in their tribes. He also posts under Talks to > Animals. Report him if he continues to make > problems.Keep our boards safe This appears to be his > web http://the-bears-den.net/default.aspx > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/16/2008 02:05:23
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] Heads up to all on this board
    2. Debby Smith
    3. I was planning to unsubscribe if he continued, thanks for the heads up ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jodi Friedman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:23 AM Subject: [NCWILKES] Heads up to all on this board > It seems there is a certain poster by the name of Josh > Standing Bear that has been leaving very fowl > messages. > Per the Cherokee Nations there is no Chief Running > Bear in their tribes. He also posts under Talks to > Animals. Report him if he continues to make > problems.Keep our boards safe This appears to be his > web http://the-bears-den.net/default.aspx > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/16/2008 01:05:31
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] Francis Pierce
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lilybee2 Surnames: Pierce Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/1341.1672.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Huge! I would like a copy too please email me! He is suppose to be my ggggrandfather! looking forward to hearing from you! Barb! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    02/15/2008 11:57:56
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] Johnson Family, Wilkes County, NC
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stevenshumate1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/2714.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Beth & Sheila, I am descended from that line also. Would love to exchange info. Steve [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    02/15/2008 09:50:44
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] Johnson Family, Wilkes County, NC
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stevenshumate1 Surnames: Shumate, Johnson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/2714.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I would love to hear more of that line. I am also descended from John & Barbara Shumate. Steve Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    02/15/2008 09:48:29
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] JY KING / Runningbear Arms
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Joshstandingbear Surnames: Robert Runningbear Arms / Seaberry Osbornes Father Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/4245.2.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: JY King, you are a real fruit cake and I am Carded are you?, if not keep your trap shut about my family, Runningbear and he was a chief get a life and get your nose out of things that have nothing to do with you, whom do you think you are? You are not in my family and stay out of my families business, you don't know squat, your a WANNABE get a life in your world not ours. Standingbear Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    02/15/2008 09:22:53
    1. [NCWILKES] Heads up to all on this board
    2. Jodi Friedman
    3. It seems there is a certain poster by the name of Josh Standing Bear that has been leaving very fowl messages. Per the Cherokee Nations there is no Chief Running Bear in their tribes. He also posts under Talks to Animals. Report him if he continues to make problems.Keep our boards safe This appears to be his web http://the-bears-den.net/default.aspx ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

    02/15/2008 06:23:40
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] Hall Family Wilkes Co, NC
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: karmacoma3d Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.wilkes/3974.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: http://www.fmoran.com/wilkes/hall.html I am not sure if you still need any of this information since this is an older query, But I hope that it is helpful anyways... I have lots of other info and links if you need anything else. Dixie Hall is one of my cousins on my father's side through William Hall and Grover Cleveland Hall. I haven't had much luck on finding details about Allie Hall though. Good luck Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    02/14/2008 07:32:50
    1. [NCWILKES] Walker Family late 1700's early 1800's, especially descendants of Daly Walker Sr. with names James and William in line.
    2. Celia Becker
    3. Dear group; I'm trying to finish my late mother's family history. I've been working on it over 40 years now and I'm not getting younger, wealthier or more energetic, I find. Her paternal grandmother was Mariam Adaline Walker b. April, 1850 in Buchanan Co., MO, married James F. Wallace April, 1866, in Nodaway County. James' father and her father had been partners in a couple of general stores together. James was wounded in the Civil War (union) and never really recovered. He was left with a permanent septic infection that slowly killed him. He died in 1899 in Texas Co., MO where he had gone in hope of either a cure or at least longer life. Mariam had only two brothers. Her parents only had three children--ever. Both were born in North Carolina. They were James Lindolph Walker b. 1841 and William M. Walker b. 1844--d. 1923 (Nodaway County). James Lindolph Walker was in the CSA and killed in the siege of Vicksburg. He was fatally wounded about July 1, and died July 3, 1863 and is buried at Vicksburg. William was also in the CSA but made it home intact. Their father was William Dale/Daly Walker b. 1821/22 in North Carolina. He often went by the name of "Dale" or "Daly" Walker. He was captured by the Union army while trying to bring clothing and food to his sons and sent to a Union army prison at Alton, Illinois "for providing aid and comfort to the enemy." He died of pneumonia, there in December, 1864 and is buried there. William Dale/Daly Walker appears to have had at least three brothers: George M. Walker b. 1820/21; Barry Walker b. 1812/13 and James Walker b. 1818/19 who married Mary Hester. All of the four had first born sons named "James" which means the father of William, George, Barry and James was probably another James Walker. Three of them also named an older or oldest daughter "Adaline." I believe this family is descended from Daly Walker Sr. who took land in Burke County in 1778. He was apparently a brother of Renelder Walker who with his widowed mother, Elizabeth, sold lands and left Frederick County, Maryland and "moved to North Carolina" (according to one of the land sale records). On November 27, 1778, Renelder Walker married Mary Wilcoxson and his bondsmen were Charles and Daly Walker. This Daly Walker married Hannah Smith of Burke County, also the same day as Renelder's marriage. On the 1790 census, Daly Walker Sr. was listed as Dailey Walker and living in the 8th company roster area next to Nicholas Jones. In his household at that time were 1 son under 16, and two males (himself included) over 16 and 5 females (wife and four daughters?) In 1796, however, Daly Walker, Johanna Walker and Martha Walker witnessed the will of William Careley Sr. in Wilkes County. Who were the children of Daly Walker and Hannah (aka Johanna) Wilcoxson, and what were their birthdates or birth years? We know that Daly Walker Sr. and his wife Hannah had a son Daly Walker Jr. who lived in Wilkes County, North Carolina in the early 1800's. Who were the children of Daly Walker Jr.? What were their birthdates or birth years and who did they marry? Who was the wife of Daly Walker Jr? I don't believe my Walkers were sons of Daly Walker Jr. because on the 1820 census he had moved to Wythe County, VA and had NO sons only two daughters under age 10. Actually they were 3 years old or less. He married Drusilla Epps 23 August, 1817 in Knox County, KY. Sons of Renelder Walker had moved to Knox Co., Kentucky according to some of that family's records. However, knowing more about Daly Walker and others of this family may lead me to his brothers and eventually to my William Daly Walker. It looks like Daly Walker Jr. was just about 26-27 on the 1820 census suggesting a birth year in the range of 1792-93. From other transcribed and published records it looks like Daly Walker Jr. eventually had one son, Isaac and his oldest daughter was Mary "Polly" Walker b. 1818 who married George Clapp. Is there a connection of either Daly Walker (Sr. or Jr. or both) to the James Walker who married Audree Maxwill (Maxwell) on January 19, 1793 in Wilkes County? Is this the same James Walker who four years later married Nancy Bradley in Wilkes County on February 11, 1797. My William M. Walker had relatives--uncles, cousins or brothers--who lived in Kentucky in Warren or Butler County. He met his wife, Nancy Ann Porter Fortner b. June, 1820, KY, there and apparently married her there. Her brother, James Porter Fortner was described in the Kentucky biographies written about 120 years ago. The Fortners were originally from North Carolina also. However, AFTER THE MARRIAGE MY WILLIAM WALKER RETURNED TO NORTH CAROLINA WITH HIS WIFE. He was apparently living with his father in the 1840's. Both of William's sons were born in North Carolina. I believe his father then died in 1848 or 1849, which allowed him to pack up and move to northwestern Missouri, where he apparently already had brothers. Does this seem familiar to anyone? Does anyone have additional records of the Wilkes County, NC Walkers that might lead me to my William Daly Walker? Sincerely, Mrs. Cecilia L. Fabos-Becker San Jose, CA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1273 - Release Date: 2/12/2008 9:31 AM

    02/12/2008 02:00:05
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] Reed - Reid
    2. Jodi, No, I don't know about Martha Johnson but the Wilkes County courthouse still had a ledger of the old handwritten wills (I got a copy of my g-g- grandfather's will made in 1863)as recently as Thanksgiving 20006. > Does anyone know who Martha Johnson was connected to > Irvin Reed/Reid ? Martha is mentioned in an abstract > of his will 1888 and probated in 1890. I am waiting on > the Archives to send me the actual will. > > Thanks > Jodi > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ _____ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWILKES- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/08/2008 07:49:16
    1. Re: [NCWILKES] Duncan-Estep cemetery near Brushy Mountain
    2. Thank you! I heard from Elsie, and I appreciate the information and the prompt response. Katherine **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

    02/08/2008 09:55:02
    1. [NCWILKES] Duncan-Estep cemetery near Brushy Mountain
    2. I am doing some research for my sister-in-law, whose father's ancestor was Melvin/Melver Marlow (son of Phineas Marlow), born c.1842 in Wilkes County, and died 1922 in Iredell County. Some ancestors were buried in Duncan-Estep Cemetery. Can anyone provide me with directions to that location? Thank you. Katherine Benbow **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

    02/08/2008 09:03:57