Address and phone number: Wayne County Clerk Register Of Deeds Walnut & William P. O. Box 267 Goldsboro NC 27533-0267 919-731-1449 Also, see a list of other resources at the Wayne County, NCGenWeb page at http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/sources.htm Best wishes, Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [NCWAYNE] Need a look-up, please! > IT IS MY UDERSTANDING THAT WAYNE COUNTY STARTED RECORDING BIRTHS IN 1913. > TRY THE COUNTY OFFICE . GOOD LUCK JOHN > > > ==== NCWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Wayne County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/ > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 > >

I need some help in obtaining a birth record for my father who was born at Fields' Station, NC, near La Grange, in 1911. Could someone please tell me if I am likely to find a public record of his birth, and if so, where would it now be stored? Thank you! Kathryn [email protected] "A family tree can wither if nobody tends its roots." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Researching these families in the Southeast: COX, CROUT, HENRY, HILL, KELLY/KHELE, LAWRENCE, LITCHFIELD, MAULDIN, NELSON, OVERTON, TAYLOR, UZZELL, WEST. Also, AMBROSE, BALCH, FOUSHEE, GRIFFIN, HARRISS, HOUGH, KIMBALL, STARKEY, PRINCE, TERRELL, and WILSON. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Final resting place not final By Clay Cansler, Wilson Daily Times Staff Writer After lying undisturbed for nearly 120 years, a few Wilsonians will receive a new resting place soon. Road expansion for a new subdivision prompted the removal of a family graveyard near Dewfield development across from the Seventh-day Adventist church being built on Lake Wilson Road. Large cedars covered the three to six graves, which are now in the way of a deceleration lane for the 52-house subdivision being built by Kingsmill Homes. Crews are still digging to determine how many graves are at the site. Ward Sutton, owner of R. Ward Sutton Cemetery Services, said it appears to be the Perry family graveyard. A headstone atop the ground marked the grave of Jane Ellen Perry, who died Jan. 28, 1886. Among remains found Tuesday were handles, screws and glass from a coffin, a glass button and reddish brown skull fragments from a corpse. Unfortunately, nothing was found that could identify the corpse, although Sutton said it appeared to be a man from the size of the grave. Remains from the graves will be transferred to Maplewood Cemetery, where they will be individually casketed and entombed. A marker will announce the graves' original location and a notation will be made in the county courthouse. Mike Webb, engineering assistant with Green Engineering, said an advertisement was run in The Wilson Daily Times for four weeks announcing the removal of the graves, giving relatives an opportunity to voice opposition. No one voiced any objection. Joan Howell, who has published three books on genealogy and old graves in Wilson County, said she has not been able to find a lot of information on the Perrys. She said it appears John Perry, husband of Jane, remarried after her death. His remains and those of his second wife may be there. There had been rumors the cedars hid 20 or 30 slave graves, but Webb said residents might have confused the Perry lot with a bigger graveyard down the road. To be sure no graves are missed, crews are unearthing a 50-foot by 50-foot area around the graves. Workers used finding rods, like those employed to determine the location of septic tanks, to locate the graves. Sutton said soil disturbed by digging remains soft. About 2 feet below ground, an observer also can tell where a grave is through discoloration of the soil. The rich brown of decomposed coffin wood and of the corpse are easy to spot against North Carolina red clay. Sutton said a person can tell a lot about people by their graves. Since the first grave dug up was probably that of a man judging by its size, it is likely that the remains of his wife will be to his right facing the east, which is customary in burial. Personal effects and ornaments remaining often give an idea of the gender and wealth of the entombed. After 30 years of digging up graves, Sutton said he's found all sorts of things under the ground, including glass eyes. "You have it, I've dug it up," he chuckled. "It's like the good book says, 'Earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.'" G. Hunter Ferrell [email protected]

And while we are on the subject of what they have done to Diana and NCWayne, I would like to know if they will also do the same to the personal pages we put up and pay money for in order to keep the banners of our sites. If I find my data is being backed up by Rootsweb or if I remove it and it returns, there will be a lawsuit for sure. And as for Diana's problem, what Rootsweb does not understand is that some folks will donate merely for Diana and not for Rootsweb. If Diana leaves they will want the data to go with Diana and not stay on Rootsweb. If Rootsweb intends to practice like this, they should have a main page stating that all donations or pages made under Rootsweb remains Rootsweb's material and not the submitters. They will soon find that nobody submits. Sincerely, Cathy Cranford-Ailstock [email protected] http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cranford/

Diana, The CROCKER gedcom file was removed from Rootsweb as soon as they announced merger with MyFamily or whomever the top organization is. We had always had reservation about anything on Ancestry.com. It seems to be a collection of names with no sources. Most of the data was filed with sources. Questions were added when there were questions. The plan was to replace it when rootsweb showed their "true colors." <G> I guess our worse fears have been realized. Mike seems to have taken even his own personal data from rootsweb also. I'll see what he did to "keep" it off. He's been a little "hot under the collar" concerning rootsweb. If he answers I'll let you know. Rootsweb may be in for a lawsuit. Shelby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 10:23 PM Subject: [NCWAYNE] abandoned pages on RootWeb > I am sorry to say I have a serious problem with RootsWeb and I am looking > for some help in resolving it. If anybody here can help with a contact name > or suggestion, I would appreciate it very much. >

I am sorry to say I have a serious problem with RootsWeb and I am looking for some help in resolving it. If anybody here can help with a contact name or suggestion, I would appreciate it very much. I formerly had my Wayne County page on RW's server. I moved my site to another server, not because of any problem I had with RW but because I wanted to make my life easier by using Microsoft FrontPage as my editor, and RW, being strictly a Linux operation, does not support FrontPage. So I moved to another server, notified and thanked RW, and removed all my files from RW except for a jump page. I found out sometime later -- a month or more -- that all my Wayne County pages had been put back on RW. I generously gave them the benefit of the doubt and decided that they may have thought they had lost my files when they noticed the size of my site went from large to very small (only one jump page) and so restored all my files for me from backup. So I removed them again, leaving just a jump page there and forgot about it until Elizabeth received a question from a user about the apparently abandoned Wayne County site. She contacted me about it and I reminded her that I had moved to another server months ago, perhaps six months ago at the point. This time I decided I would delete my files off of RW one or two at a time so as not to create a noticeable change in size of my site as a whole. I randomly deleted files this way, one or two at a time over a period of weeks and months, letting them do their backups with fewer and fewer files. At some point in this process, RW changed my password so I can no longer do a darn thing about what they have there. This weekend I heard from one of my best contributors to Wayne County that some Barnes family data that she had once contributed was back on RootsWeb at my old url. She had requested OVER TWO YEARS ago that I remove her data and I did. She is quiet distressed to find it back online. And I'm distressed to find my old Wayne County pages back in their old location, looking abandoned, with my name on them. I have contacted RootsWeb about it (again) but only through their help desk. Does anybody here know of a more direct way for me to deal with this? A name would be good. Sharon, maybe you could intervene. It definitely looks bad for old, abandoned pages to be there -- the innocent user has no idea they are at an illegitimate site. The abandoned site is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncwayne/ You only see a directory there because my index page, which WAS a jump page, is gone. But click on any .htm page and you will see the abandoned pages. Some people have apparently saved bookmarks to some of these pages or they found them in a search engine. Thanks, Diana

Yes, that was in the book. What I should have said was that I haven't found these people in my database. G. Hunter Ferrell [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [NCWAYNE] Wayne County Lambs/Lamms > The reference you cited in the marriage book said > (parents: Abram and Missouri LAMB), didn't it? Or did you add that later? > Diana > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "G. Hunter Ferrell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:04 PM > Subject: Re: [NCWAYNE] Wayne County Lambs/Lamms > > > > Diana, > > > > The reference is: > > > > "Wayne County, North Carolina Marriage Abstracts: Marriage Bonds, 1850 - > > 1861; Surviving Marriage Register & Marriage Applications, 1867 - 1903", > > Frances G. Howell, 1998. Archives call #GR929.3N8wayH859w. The referenced > > entry was on page 107. Don't know what the license number is. > > > > I haven't found the parents of Roxie Lamb/Lamm yet. I'm working on the > > descendants of Jacob Lamb from Wayne County and was thinking she might be > > connected. I have a Roxie, Abram and Missouri in my database but I don't > > think they're the same as this Roxie and her parents. > > > > > > > > G. Hunter Ferrell > > [email protected] > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Diana" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:53 PM > > Subject: Re: [NCWAYNE] Wayne County Lambs/Lamms > > > > > > > Hunter, > > > > > > I have information on Willie Holland's family. See my page at > > > http://www.betterthanmost.com/holland/warren.htm#Willie%20Holland > > > > > > Thanks for the date! Do you have the book number and license no., etc > for > > > that reference? And do you have Roxie's mother's maiden name? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Diana > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "G. Hunter Ferrell" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 7:30 AM > > > Subject: [NCWAYNE] Wayne County Lambs/Lamms > > > > > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > I've just returned from a trip to North Carolina where I spent a > couple > > of > > > > days at the Archives in Raleigh. I found the following information on > > some > > > > Lambs/Lamms but I can't place them. Does anyone have any information > on > > > > them? > > > > > > > > Jacob SCREWS, 30 (mother Nancy Screws), married Mary LAMB, 30, July > 19, > > > > 1881, at Benton's Mill, Saulston, Wayne County. > > > > > > > > Willie HOLLAND, 19 (parents: Jo. and Polly HOLLAND) married Roxie > LAMB, > > 16 > > > > (parents: Abram and Missouri LAMB), February 12, 1895, at Charley > > > Howard's, > > > > Great Swamp, Wayne County. > > > > > > > > Amos LAMM married Mary THARINGTON (parents: Joseph and Sarah > > THARINGTON), > > > > November 26 (no year given). > > > > > > > > Levi TAYLOR married Elizabeth LAMM, July 18, 1853 at Wright TAYLOR's. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Hunter Ferrell > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NCWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > > > Wayne County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > > > > http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/ > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > > > > No. 1 Source for Family History Online. Search over 600 MILLION NAMES > > > > and trace your family tree today. Go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NCWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > > Wayne County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > > > http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > ==== NCWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > Wayne County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > > http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/ > > > > ============================== > > Search more than 150 million free record at RootsWeb > > http://search.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > ==== NCWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Wayne County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/ > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 >

Diana, The reference is: "Wayne County, North Carolina Marriage Abstracts: Marriage Bonds, 1850 - 1861; Surviving Marriage Register & Marriage Applications, 1867 - 1903", Frances G. Howell, 1998. Archives call #GR929.3N8wayH859w. The referenced entry was on page 107. Don't know what the license number is. I haven't found the parents of Roxie Lamb/Lamm yet. I'm working on the descendants of Jacob Lamb from Wayne County and was thinking she might be connected. I have a Roxie, Abram and Missouri in my database but I don't think they're the same as this Roxie and her parents. G. Hunter Ferrell [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [NCWAYNE] Wayne County Lambs/Lamms > Hunter, > > I have information on Willie Holland's family. See my page at > http://www.betterthanmost.com/holland/warren.htm#Willie%20Holland > > Thanks for the date! Do you have the book number and license no., etc for > that reference? And do you have Roxie's mother's maiden name? > > Thanks, > Diana > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "G. Hunter Ferrell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 7:30 AM > Subject: [NCWAYNE] Wayne County Lambs/Lamms > > > > Hello! > > > > I've just returned from a trip to North Carolina where I spent a couple of > > days at the Archives in Raleigh. I found the following information on some > > Lambs/Lamms but I can't place them. Does anyone have any information on > > them? > > > > Jacob SCREWS, 30 (mother Nancy Screws), married Mary LAMB, 30, July 19, > > 1881, at Benton's Mill, Saulston, Wayne County. > > > > Willie HOLLAND, 19 (parents: Jo. and Polly HOLLAND) married Roxie LAMB, 16 > > (parents: Abram and Missouri LAMB), February 12, 1895, at Charley > Howard's, > > Great Swamp, Wayne County. > > > > Amos LAMM married Mary THARINGTON (parents: Joseph and Sarah THARINGTON), > > November 26 (no year given). > > > > Levi TAYLOR married Elizabeth LAMM, July 18, 1853 at Wright TAYLOR's. > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any information. > > > > > > > > G. Hunter Ferrell > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > ==== NCWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > Wayne County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > > http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/ > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > > No. 1 Source for Family History Online. Search over 600 MILLION NAMES > > and trace your family tree today. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > > ==== NCWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Wayne County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/ > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

The reference you cited in the marriage book said (parents: Abram and Missouri LAMB), didn't it? Or did you add that later? Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Hunter Ferrell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [NCWAYNE] Wayne County Lambs/Lamms > Diana, > > The reference is: > > "Wayne County, North Carolina Marriage Abstracts: Marriage Bonds, 1850 - > 1861; Surviving Marriage Register & Marriage Applications, 1867 - 1903", > Frances G. Howell, 1998. Archives call #GR929.3N8wayH859w. The referenced > entry was on page 107. Don't know what the license number is. > > I haven't found the parents of Roxie Lamb/Lamm yet. I'm working on the > descendants of Jacob Lamb from Wayne County and was thinking she might be > connected. I have a Roxie, Abram and Missouri in my database but I don't > think they're the same as this Roxie and her parents. > > > > G. Hunter Ferrell > [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diana" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:53 PM > Subject: Re: [NCWAYNE] Wayne County Lambs/Lamms > > > > Hunter, > > > > I have information on Willie Holland's family. See my page at > > http://www.betterthanmost.com/holland/warren.htm#Willie%20Holland > > > > Thanks for the date! Do you have the book number and license no., etc for > > that reference? And do you have Roxie's mother's maiden name? > > > > Thanks, > > Diana > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "G. Hunter Ferrell" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 7:30 AM > > Subject: [NCWAYNE] Wayne County Lambs/Lamms > > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > I've just returned from a trip to North Carolina where I spent a couple > of > > > days at the Archives in Raleigh. I found the following information on > some > > > Lambs/Lamms but I can't place them. Does anyone have any information on > > > them? > > > > > > Jacob SCREWS, 30 (mother Nancy Screws), married Mary LAMB, 30, July 19, > > > 1881, at Benton's Mill, Saulston, Wayne County. > > > > > > Willie HOLLAND, 19 (parents: Jo. and Polly HOLLAND) married Roxie LAMB, > 16 > > > (parents: Abram and Missouri LAMB), February 12, 1895, at Charley > > Howard's, > > > Great Swamp, Wayne County. > > > > > > Amos LAMM married Mary THARINGTON (parents: Joseph and Sarah > THARINGTON), > > > November 26 (no year given). > > > > > > Levi TAYLOR married Elizabeth LAMM, July 18, 1853 at Wright TAYLOR's. > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any information. > > > > > > > > > > > > G. Hunter Ferrell > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NCWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > > Wayne County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > > > http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > > > No. 1 Source for Family History Online. Search over 600 MILLION NAMES > > > and trace your family tree today. Go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NCWAYNE Mailing List ==== > > Wayne County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > > http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/ > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== NCWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Wayne County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/ > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free record at RootsWeb > http://search.rootsweb.com/ > >

Hunter, I have information on Willie Holland's family. See my page at http://www.betterthanmost.com/holland/warren.htm#Willie%20Holland Thanks for the date! Do you have the book number and license no., etc for that reference? And do you have Roxie's mother's maiden name? Thanks, Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Hunter Ferrell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 7:30 AM Subject: [NCWAYNE] Wayne County Lambs/Lamms > Hello! > > I've just returned from a trip to North Carolina where I spent a couple of > days at the Archives in Raleigh. I found the following information on some > Lambs/Lamms but I can't place them. Does anyone have any information on > them? > > Jacob SCREWS, 30 (mother Nancy Screws), married Mary LAMB, 30, July 19, > 1881, at Benton's Mill, Saulston, Wayne County. > > Willie HOLLAND, 19 (parents: Jo. and Polly HOLLAND) married Roxie LAMB, 16 > (parents: Abram and Missouri LAMB), February 12, 1895, at Charley Howard's, > Great Swamp, Wayne County. > > Amos LAMM married Mary THARINGTON (parents: Joseph and Sarah THARINGTON), > November 26 (no year given). > > Levi TAYLOR married Elizabeth LAMM, July 18, 1853 at Wright TAYLOR's. > > > Thanks in advance for any information. > > > > G. Hunter Ferrell > [email protected] > > > > > ==== NCWAYNE Mailing List ==== > Wayne County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > No. 1 Source for Family History Online. Search over 600 MILLION NAMES > and trace your family tree today. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Hello! I've just returned from a trip to North Carolina where I spent a couple of days at the Archives in Raleigh. I found the following information on some Lambs/Lamms but I can't place them. Does anyone have any information on them? Jacob SCREWS, 30 (mother Nancy Screws), married Mary LAMB, 30, July 19, 1881, at Benton's Mill, Saulston, Wayne County. Willie HOLLAND, 19 (parents: Jo. and Polly HOLLAND) married Roxie LAMB, 16 (parents: Abram and Missouri LAMB), February 12, 1895, at Charley Howard's, Great Swamp, Wayne County. Amos LAMM married Mary THARINGTON (parents: Joseph and Sarah THARINGTON), November 26 (no year given). Levi TAYLOR married Elizabeth LAMM, July 18, 1853 at Wright TAYLOR's. Thanks in advance for any information. G. Hunter Ferrell [email protected]

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: {not a subscriber} death certificate Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:31:13 -0700 From: "Angela Rhodes" <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Angela Rhodes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Can anyone tell me what year Wayne Co. started recording deaths?

Can anyone recommend a genealogist for hire that is very knowledgable in Wayne and Greene County records? Please contact me at [email protected] Thanks, Chris

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: {not a subscriber} RE: "[NCWayne] Need someone to make copies" message Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:51:30 -0700 From: WCPL <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] To: Ted Gurley, Nancy Smith, and Wayne-L Subscribers: I am writing in concern to an incident that occurred at the Wayne County Public Library on Saturday, 9/23/00, while I was on duty at the Reference Desk. I understand that a message was circulated via your listserve network, and a response, in kind, was offered. I am referring to the message: "I need some help, last weekend I spent over seven hours in the Wanye(sic) Co. library trying to get some time on the microfilm copier to make copies of obits and marriages from the "Headlight". It was real frustrating. One fellow was at the lone microfilm copy-machine both Friday and Saturday using it to read page by page the census films. I asked several times for 15 or 20 minutes of time, explaining that I was from Dallas..." I must apologize for this event happening. As librarian on duty at the Reference Desk I am responsible for assisting all patrons, in whatever manner possible. On that particular day we had 3 reference librarians available, including the Director, Jane Rustin. I do remember a patron using the microfilm machine for an extended period, and was unaware of an additional patrons needing microfilm machine assistance. We have 2 machines. Both work fine and will copy. Both were not in use on that day. I can only suggest that any time that a person is unsatisfied with their pursuit of a book, film, information that they ask a librarian, and make their interest known. Please note our email address below, and feel free to ask us for assistance anytime. Again, I am sorry that this happened. Cliff Rhodes WCPL/Reference [email protected]

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [NCWAYNE] Wayne Co. Grave Destroyed Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:37:24 -0700 From: "Rose Parks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> These cemeteries were destroyed in more recent years but some of the persons on the Lenoir County list were working to get 2 cemeteries checked where Richard Caswell was supposed to be buried and they wrote enough letters to Governor, and Senators or Rep. and newspapers and believe they got something started. I can find out the persons responsible for getting this accomplished and you can contact them to find out how they went about it. There are laws in Texas to punish those who destroy cemeteries, but the person still has to be caught, which may be hard in some cases, and sometimes a seldom used cemetery may go awhile before the deed is discovered. It is vandalism at it's worst! I believe it was mentioned on the Lenoir list that the Sheriff was responsible for starting the investigation. Rose

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: {not a subscriber} Saving Graves Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 07:53:28 -0700 From: "I am who I have always been." <[email protected]> Reply-To: "I am who I have always been." <[email protected]> To: "WayneCoMailingList" <[email protected]> go here to see the NC statutes concerning graveyards: http://www.savinggraves.com/usa/nc/ [email protected] ICQ 84892128 AIM BevWmson I am planning to live forever......... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PITTMAN DATA BANK: Now 2,210 depositors, and growing! http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bevwmson/pittmandatabank.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Life is a one-way trip .. take the detours." CyberBev, Jan 2000

Does anyone know of a researcher for hire that is good in Wayne and Greene County research and what there contact information would be. If so please contact me at [email protected] Thanks Chris

I will sign it. Just a few weeks ago I was told of a cemetery in the middle of a field. I found it among a field of soy beans. Only about 3 tombs were seen in this grown up plot but the farmer had plowed and planted and several tombstoness were broken and half hidden by soil. I heard he was very well off, but didn't care about other people love ones. Our ancesters should not be lost for greed of the land. Annette >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NCWAYNE] Wayne Co. Grave Destroyed >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:22:04 EDT > >AMEN! Maybe we could get a petition started on this over the net. I do not >know how that works, really. Maybe someone on the list does? >Pam > > >==== NCWAYNE Mailing List ==== >Wayne County, North Carolina NCGenWeb >http://www.betterthanmost.com/wayne/ > >============================== >Search over 64,000,000 records in the Social Security Death Index: >http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/ > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

AMEN! Maybe we could get a petition started on this over the net. I do not know how that works, really. Maybe someone on the list does? Pam

This couldn't be a more timely conversation for me. My children and I started a project a few months ago of collecting digital photos of pre-1930 tombstones in the eastern part of the state. Since we live in Wayne County, this is where the majority of our photos are from. We've seen cemeteries in the county that are just torn up from lack of maintenance or vandalism. Not just the rural ones either. This isn't a widespread problem here. Some cemeteries are in great shape. However, it seems that those that are having problems don't seem to be an issue to anyone. I'm sure some of this destruction was caused by the flood waters of a year ago. If this is the case, it seems that the owners should have filed for funds to make things right. Maybe this is already in the works and I'm just not aware of it. I noted one 190 year-old stone of a military general and possible founder of the original county seat (Waynesboro - which is now a state park), broken off at the base and laying on the ground. It was half covered with grass creeping in from all sides and most of it was buried in a thick layer of mud. His wife's stone was in the same shape. We managed to expose enough of the stones' faces to get good photos of them, but it won't be long before they're completely covered up again. These were only two of the stones in that cemetery that were well on their way to being lost forever. I sincerely hope these people aren't one of our list member's ancestors. I recently wrote letters to two organizations in the area to see if something could be done and have not had a satisfactory response yet. I haven't covered all of the local historical associations yet and I'll keep trying until I find someone that can/will do something to repair these stones. I believe that the Secretary of State's office has funds set aside for preservation and restoration of items with historical and cultural significance. I would think that since burial records weren't generally recorded here until after 1913, tombstones would qualify for this program. And yes, there is a state statute on destruction of grave stones including those on private property. I just have to wonder who's supposed to be enforcing this. Also, isn't there a perpetual care provision in NC? I'm assuming not... I don't have any ancestors buried within 500 miles of here, but as a family history enthusiast I feel for the descendants of those that are. Sincerely, Todd Anderson NC ImageStones Project