Hi everyone on the Wautauga list: I usually don't contribute because I don't have anybody in our line that you talk about. If anyone knows anything about Brice Russell/ Hugh or Jane Thompson/ or any Birdwells, those are my folks. I think. The first thing I learned about genealogy is nothing is written in stone. We just get hints here and there and until DNA there was no real way to prove Great granddad didn't meet some likely wench out behind the woodshed or where ever. And it is definitely a tapestry of thousands, maybe millions of threads. As someone said before, it gets up into the high numbers pretty quickly. The real reason I'm writing is about the Charlemagne line. Grandpa Charley, I call him. My line descends directly from Thomas Wingfield in early Virginia and supposedly the Wingfields were descended from the Plantagenet royalty(one of which was the bad King John we heard so much about in Robin Hood.)and from there to Grandpa charley. There is now some dispute! as to whether any Wingfields imigrated to America so the limb is shaky and speaking for our British cousins nonexistent. That is what I mean about nothing in stone. However, I prefer to believe. And it is a lot of fun to read the list that we might have come from(that is IF everybody was legitamate and always told the truth) Of course we know that's not true. Anyhow, I find genealogy fascinating and fun but not to be taken completely seriously, like my golf game. Happy hunting! Sandy from Alabama -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Jon Smith" <jon.smith.1234@comcast.net> > The key is from Martha Bolling, b 1713 in Henrico County (Richmond), > Virginia. She's the daughter of John Bolling, who is the son of Robert > Bolling and Jane Rolfe, grandson of Pocahontas. Martha Bolling and Thomas > Eldridge had a daughter Mary Eldridge, born 4/4/1743, those facts are pretty > clear. Is she the Mary Aldridge/Eldridge (b abt 1740) that married William > Lambert Miller (b 1735), father of David Miller who marries Elizabeth > Norris? Quite possible, but I want a few more confirmations before I > pronounce her as the 'lucky bingo card'. (or unlucky if you want to list > all of the unsavory folks Joe brought up!) > > To get back to Charlemagne, keep following the Bollings up line for a couple > hundred years and take a right on the female Greene. Go back a few hundred > there and take a right on the female de Arderne. Keep going back and take a > right on the female De Ponthieu and from there I think you have several > avenues. The Capets show up, the De Auvergnes show up, de Saxony (as in > King Otto I de Saxony), the Anjou's. You are into French royalty by then > and the tree starts looking like the Mississippi delta basin! > > The Aujou's lead to the Orleans, who lead to the Franks, etc. > > The line from Peter Pan comes to mind, take a right at the first star and > straight away until morn! > > Here's it in reverse. > > Charlemagne (747) > Hugo > Petronilla de France > Ingelger I Orlean > Fougues I d'Anjou > Foulges le Anjou > Adelaide de Anjou > Wermegarde de Toulouse > Ermengarde de Auvergne > Bertha de Aumale > Enquerrand de Ponthieu > Piers de Valognes > Robert de Valognes > Theobald de Valoines > Bertha de Valoines > Amabel de Glanville > Thomas de Arderne (1170) > . > . > Ralph de Arderne (1312) > Phillipa de Arderne > Catherine de Drayton > Henry De Greene > . > . > . > . > Jane Greene > Robert Bolling (1590) > . > . > . > Martha Bolling > > Joe's right, the combitorial explosion of folks is enormous if you can get > this link set! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark & Sherry Reeter" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:18 AM > Subject: Re: [NCWATAUG] Pocahontas & Charlemagne connection > > > > Jon, Can you provide the connection of Pocahontas to Charlemagne that you > > mentioned in your e-mail previously? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ncwataug-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncwataug-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Jon Smith > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:46 PM > > To: ncwataug@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [NCWATAUG] Zionville School > > > > Have you been able to find any other confirmation for your Source #4 to > > Pocahontas? I've written to Sharon to find out the source of her > > information, but never gotten a confirmation, but would love for it to be > > true (being a Jon Smith - it would be worth a chuckle) as I'm in this line > > as well. > > > > If you can determine the data is true, then you can go back to Charlemagne > > (and earlier) via one of the husbands that married into the family. > > > > r/Jon > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jamie Hald" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:27 AM > > Subject: Re: [NCWATAUG] Zionville School > > > > > > Calling all descendants of William Lanbert Miller and Mary Eldridge. > > I'm a descendant of their son, David who md. Elizabeth Norris. > > From my files I've pasted the sources I have for William and the > > notes I have from some of them. > > > > If you want to have some fun, go to source #4 about the Aldridge > > (Eldridge) line. It goes back to Pocahontas. > > > > Enjoy! > > Jamie > > > > > > > > Sources: 1. World Family Tree, pre-1600 to present, Vol. 2, > > #3874, Broderbund Software Inc. 1995. > > 2. "Our Family History" by Harry and Marsha Williams, on the Internet. > > 3. Correspondence from D.E. Miller at NCWATAUGA-L@@rootsweb.com > > 4. Aldridge Data (Eldridge) http://www.geocities.com/familysnooper/ > > Shar_aldridge.html > > 5. Information based on "A Genealogy of William and mary Aldridge > > Miller" by Danny L. Miller. Additional information from John O. > > Hawkins. This packet was sent to me by Greg Miller, 2006. > > > > Possibly born in England. > > > > > > #3 Mary was the daughter of Thomas II and Martha Bolling born in > > 1740. I am not > > sure about the father of William Miller. I have his father as > > Heinrich Mueller > > Miller born about 1710. I have this also on William and Mary; > > > > >From Margaret DeLong; > > "Wm. and Polly settled in Lewis Fork, Wilkes Co., NC. They were > > charter members > > of the Boone's Ford Church. In 1755 they were members of Jersey > > Baptist Church > > in Rowan. They were also charter members of the Three Forks Baptist > > Church which > > was org. in 1790" > > > > He is the source that provided William's middle name. > > Also states he was a Rev. War Vet. > > > > #4 "William Miller immigrated to Pennsylvania from Germany, by way > > of England about > > 1759. He was the son of Heinrich Mueller of Germany, and it is > > believed his > > name was changed from German (Wilheim Mueller) to English (William > > Miller) while > > he was arranging passage to America from England (immigrants from > > Europe had to > > make their way to England to gain ships passage to America from the > > port of > > South Hampton). It is also believed he immigrated with at least one > > brother. > > > > William served in the Revolutionary war under the command of General > > Anthony > > Wayne. He and Mary were Charter members of the Three Forks Baptist > > Church, > > which is the oldest (1790) constituted Church in Watauga County, NC." > > > > #5 "In America William Miller bound himself out in order to obtain > > money for Mary's passage to America. William and Mary were probably > > married between 1755-60, probably in New Jersey. In the 1760's > > William and Mary moved into the Jersey Settlement in Rowan County, > > and in 1775 William joined the Jersey Baptist Church by transfer of > > letter from Bonne's Ford Baptist Church. Sometime after this the > > family moved into Wilkes County, settling at Holman's Ford on Lewis > > Fork, but in 1783 they crossed into the part of Ashe County, to > > Cook's Gap, which would become Watauga in 1849 and thus became among > > the earliest settlers of Watauga county. There he took up 640 acres > > from what is now the Parkway to the New River near Boone and lived on > > Goshen Creek. > > William and Mary appear on the records as charter memebers of > > the Three Forks Baptist Church which was organized in 1790. They > > were active and faithful members of this church. > > In 1801 they moved back to Lewis Fork where they spent the rest > > of thier lives and are presumed to be buried in this area. They died > > between 1820-30. West of Lewis Fork Baptist Church is Miller > > Mountain which may have been named for William. There is a cemetery > > dating back to the 1800's at the base of the mountain, and Wiliams's > > grandson, John B. Miller, son of Jospeh is buried there." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 19, 2008, at 8:29 PM, Barbara Rich wrote: > > > >> I am interested in information on the Miller family. I am a > >> descendant of > >> David Miller as well. I have the family line back to Willilam > >> Miller and > >> Mary Aldridge. I am not sure, however, if William Miller came from > >> England > >> or Germany. I think his name was Mueller, and he came from Germany, > >> but left > >> Europe for the U.S. from England. > >> Barbara Rich > >> > >> On Jan 19, 2008 5:24 PM, bonnie steelman wrote: > >> > >>> I have quite a bit of info. on the Miller family. > >>> Bonnie Steelman > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Mark & Sherry Reeter" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:58 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [NCWATAUG] Zionville School > >>> > >>> > >>>> Some info. to share with you for your Winebarger & Miller family > >>>> files. > >>>> The > >>>> land for the old Zionville School in Watauga Co. was donated by > >>>> Dalton > >>> Van > >>>> Buren Winebarger & wife Lula Miller Winebarger. Dalton was the > >>>> son of > >>> De > >>>> Marcus "Mark" Winebarger & Martha "Mattie" Carrol and grandson of > >>>> John & > >>>> Nellie Oxford Winebarger. Dalton's wife, Lula, was the daughter of > >>> Edmund > >>>> Blackburn "E. B." Miller & Jane Holman Miller; granddaughter of > >>>> Jonathan > >>>> David Miller & Rebecca Blackburn Miller; great-granddaughter of > >>>> David > >>>> Miller > >>>> & Sarah Elizabeth Norris Miller. > >>>> Zionville School was a rock school built at Mabel near the Mabel > >>> Methodist > >>>> Church which is still standing. The property where the school > >>>> sat was > >>>> sold > >>>> after the county opened Mabel School in 1939. A small house was > >>>> built > >>> on > >>>> that lot after the school was torn down and is still there used as > >>> rental > >>>> property. Mabel School was replaced a few years ago and the new > >>>> one is > >>> not > >>>> far from Old US 421. > >>>> If you have info. on the Miller family, please be in touch! > >>>> > >>>> Sherry Winebarger-Reeter > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> NCWATAUG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >>>> the > >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>>> > >>>> __________ NOD32 2757 (20071230) Information __________ > >>>> > >>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >>>> http://www.eset.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> NCWATAUG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWATAUG- > >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCWATAUG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCWATAUG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCWATAUG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWATAUG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message