Thanks for the information that you sent in regards to David hicks. This is what got me wondering about David and his first wife. No one really knows for sure that he married a miss Presnell this I believe is all speculation. If I remember right there is no record of his first marriage. I spoke wrong in the previous email when I referred to Hiram. according to the Perkins trail that took place in Johnson County Tn. Trying to prove the Perkins family as being black it states that Hiram Hicks was a son of graves. (See below) Now Harmon as you can see from below states that Peggy graves was his brothers wife. And I do believe if I not mistaken that Hiram was a son of David. Please correct me if I am wrong. This is just food for thought and information that you may have to correct this would be appreciated Harmon HICKS p.4.Between 55 and 60 ( Harmon is testifying) Saw Joshua's father once, when small, and was scared at him. The general report they were mixed with Negro. Knew the GRAVES. Peggy GRAVES was my brother's wife. Brother's marriage objected to. Generally supposed to be mixed with Negro. William ROWLAND The General report that the PERKINS and GRAVES were mixed. HICKS said old Jock was a Negro. Objections. Hiram HICKS a son of GRAVES. Goulder HICKS 69 Lewis dark and bushy headed. Jacob PERKINS. Knew Ben and Nancy GRAVES. My opinion is they are mixed blooded. Thanks for your attention to this matter. Subj: RE: [NCWATAUG] David hicks / hix Date: 6/19/2002 4:59:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Here are the "Remarks" I have for David Hicks. Appears his first wife was a Presnell. Audrey He settled in Banner Elk NC. His love of life was hunting. He had the land at Valle Crucis but kept his hideout. (Watauga River Hicks) David Hicks was born about 1782 at Valle Crucis on the Watauga River. Little is known about his youth except that he evidently served in the War of 1812 and participated in the Battle of New Orleans. He married and moved into what is now Avery County, probably at Banner Elk, where he set up housekeeping in 1818. At that time, he is reported to have been bothered by ghosts. He lived under primitive conditions and acquired all the skills that accompany that life style. He sustained himself and his family by hunting and trapping. The best account of him at that time is as follows: "David Hix, who had been with General Andrew Jackson at the Battle of New Orleans, moved near the Big Falls of Elk, in what is now Cranberry Township, about 1818, founding the Hix settlement. It was he, it seems, whom the first ghosts followed into what is now Avery County, for he often complained that they 'pestered him lots'. He used to think "they mought 'av been the ghosts of the bloomin' Henglish' whom he helped slay in that belated battle, for one particular ghost always carried a bale of cotton with bullet holes in it. Hix hunted, fished, killed poisenous snakes and wild animals, brewed homemade medicines when members of his family were ailing. When his beard and hair became too long, he trimmed them with his hunting knife, with which he picked his teeth and trimmed his toenails. He tanned hides, made shoes for his family, and often pounded chestnuts and acorns into a course meal for bread to be eaten with the wild meat which he obtained from the wilderness. At bedtime, his wife shook the 'kivers' pillows and skins for any snakes that might have hidden among them since the previous night. This was called 'snakin' the beds. Scores of women who later followed their men into the mountains or were born here, did the same thing, for it was an easy matter for copperheads and rattlers to slither through the cracks of floors and walls and hide in the semi-darkness of the windowless cabins. A crude sundial on the outside and hacked notches about the doors helped to measure time on sunny days. But David Hix could calculate almost the exact time whenever he looked at sun and stars." The above account of David Hicks appears in the "History of Avery County" by Horton Cooper. It should be noted that the records of the War of 1812, available at the National Archives in Washington, D.C., contain no reference to David Hicks (Hix) but these records are incomplete and he could have taken part in the Battle of New Orleans. David first married a Presnell, according to local tradition, and had thirteen children before his wife's death. While there is no documentary support for this marriage, it is clear that David had two wives and two families. His first family, by ( ) Presnell, probably included four girls, who have not been identified, and two boys, Hiram and John Wesley. In 1821, David married Susannah Asher, most likely a near cousin, and record of that marriage is available in Ashe County. David does not appear in North Carolinas during the Census of 1810 or in 1820 and the possibility exists that he lived elsewhere for a time, perhaps in Virginia or in Tennessee. By 1821, he had joined other members of his family at Watauga Falls and in the Census of 1830 he was listed with three male children born before his marriage to Susannah. David died at Watauga Falls some time between 1870 and 1880, judging from census records, at the age of 79 or older. Local tradition holds that Susannah Asher also bore thirteen children to David but the record does not entirely support that number. In the Census of 1840, nine children were listed in his household and, altogether, ten children have been identified who are traceable to David and his two wives. David and ( ) Presnell had Hiram and John Wesley. David and Susannah Asher had: Adam, David, Sally, Millery, Margarite, Tempa, Daniel, and Luvenia. "The Hicks Families of Western North Carolina" by John Henry and Mattie Hicks and Barnabas B. Hicks. Printed by Minor's Printing, Boone, NC.

Hello! I wanted to express again my many thanks for the generosity of this list in responding to my request for info re: the Bumgarner family of Watauga County (and also Wilkes County). I have learned a lot and everything has filled in many blanks in the family history. Would anyone happen to know what cemeteries there are in the Boone and Cove Creek areas? I have a close friend who teaches at Ohio U in Athens--she has expressed a willingness to drive down to Boone whenever I'm visiting out her way. It would be wonderful to find Orby Lee Bumgarner's grave. His death had a major impact on my grandfather--it's one of the few stories he ever told my mother about his youth. Thank you again! Regards, John ===== "One more shot for the honour of Down!" -Rollicking Rollo (1766-1814) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

Hey all I am interested in exploring the possibility that David hicks / hix first wife was a Peggy Graves or (Margaret Graves) his second wife was Susan Asher married in watatuga or Johnson County. I haven't a clue where he and Peggy where married I just have a hunch from the perkins trail where it is mention that hariams hicks brother married a graves... and help on this would be appreciated ... thanks Dwayne ward

Thank you to everyone for the fast response, and generous attention to my request for info on my grandfather Donald (Donley) Bumgarner, b. 1902. :) I have a sense of who my great-grandparents and great-grandparents were. That's a lot more than I have had on the Bumgarners in a long time! If anyone chances upon other leads, LMK. I'd be interested, of course, in learning more about the Bumgarner activities in Watauga County. Also, the surnames of their wives. Take good care, John ===== "One more shot for the honour of Down!" -Rollicking Rollo (1766-1814) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

Hello: I'm hoping you might be able to assist me in my research on the following surname: Bumgarner (or Baumgarner). I am the grandson of Donald Lafayette Bumgarner, b. ca. 1899 in Boone, North Carolina. He was a carpenter and went north to Pennsylvania to work in the coal mines around the Bradford (McKean County) area. He met my grandmother Shirley Flatt there. They were married and eventually moved to Warren, OH. My mother, Doris June Bumgarner (though her birth certificate has Baumgarner) was born in Warren in 1930. I have had a devil of a time tracking down my grandfather's history. About all I know is that he had a little brother named Orby Lee who died quite young (2 or 3 years old). Hope you can help! Best, John ===== "One more shot for the honour of Down!" -Rollicking Rollo (1766-1814) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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In the 1850 US Census of Watauga county on page 112 taken on the 6 of Aug 1850, line 76 James Davis age 44 farmer real value $100 born NC Nancy age 38 female born NC Catherine age 19 female born NC William age 14 male born NC ELBERT age 16 born NC Calhoun age 15 male born NC Harvy age 12 male born NC Martha Ann age 10 female born NC Ellinor age 6 female born NC Belzora age 6 female born NC (these two must have been twins) Sarah age 3 female born NC Christian 6 months male born NC. AND in the 1850 US Census of Watauga County on page 144 taken on 3 Oct 1850 another family: Thomas Davis age 46 farmer born NC Lurany age 41 female born NC ELBERT age 17 male born NC Emily age 16 female born NC Thomas age 14 male born NC Emeline age 12 female born NC William age 10 male born NC Franky age 8 female born NC Asa age 6 male born NC Aley age 5 female born NC Henry age 4 male born NC John age 2 male born NC Unfortunately, there is no indication on the census as to where in Watauga County these people lived, but a later one might show which one lived in Cove Creek. Of course there would be two of them .........and no matches among children's names, I do wonder, though if Thomas and James could have been brothers. AEC 4:25 PM -0400 6/13/02, [email protected] wrote: >X-Message: #2 >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 16:25:30 EDT >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [NCWATAUG] Elbert Davis of Cove Creek, Watauga County > >I am looking for information on Elbert Davis of Cove Creek, Watauga County. >He was born about 1830 and married Nancy Parker. Their children were Arthur, >Robby, Elizabeth, John, Paton, Alice, Mary. I would appreciate any >information. Thanks.

I am looking for information on Elbert Davis of Cove Creek, Watauga County. He was born about 1830 and married Nancy Parker. Their children were Arthur, Robby, Elizabeth, John, Paton, Alice, Mary. I would appreciate any information. Thanks.

We are trying to find information on Emily Linkes Cordell. She was born in 1883 either in Johnson, Carter or Hawkins county. While she may have just stayed in Carter Co we are exploring other possiblities: Her parents lived in all three places. Later her brothers moved to Knox County, KY, and a sister moved to Abbington Va. One brother lived in Michigan for a time. After the death of her brother, Zack, she disappeared from the census. Zacks wife moved to Missouri and then to Oregon. Emily's grandparents, Hiram Hick and Ginnie Teaster lived in Watuaga NC. Emily was supposed to have married a Cordel but we only have a spoken last name--no real spelling. Any help would be appreciated.

Hi Does anyone know where Allen Beach and his wife Minerva Elizabeth Turnmire Beach are buried.. .Believe they died in the mid 1850s..... He was listed in Watauga County 1850 Census....But not in 1860.... thank you, Earlene

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Searching for the grave site of Benjamin Franklin Harman b. 9/18/1869 Watauga Co. d. 7/11/1946 Watauga Co.? m. (1) Lillie F. Harman 6/13/1893 Watauga Co. m. (2) Martha Rebecca Bouton aft. 1905 possibly Sullivan Co.,TN m. (3) Mary Lucinda Eggers 10/18/1925 Watauga Co. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Tom

If anyone could please send me any information on Richard Greene married to Ellanor Sullivan. I would certainly appreciate it very much. Thank You Phyllis

Going back through the Marriage Register of Watauga Co. and comparing names with those in my files and I came across the marriage date for Clayton A. Ward (son of Robert L. and Eliza R. Harmon Ward) and Hazel Mast on 12/25/1950. What caught my eye was the fact that Hazel is listed in the Marriage Register as Hazel Mast Harmon, which would seem to imply that she had been previously married to a Harmon. I do not have any other Hazel Mast in my files and have no idea as to who her parents might be or which Harmon she had previously married. Can anyone help me with either question? Tom

Have there been any copies made of the original ten or twenty years of the church's records, and if so, are copies available any place? I recall reading excerpts in articles some time ago and for those with Three Forks roots it would be nice to have copies among our family treasures. Tom Brown At 01:11 PM 5/26/02 -0400, [email protected] wrote: >Brett, > I live in Boone and my ancestors were also among the founder of Three >Forks...(Hortons and Greers). The old church ruins are still here and the >graves of the Hortons are there. >The new church is right on 421 as you come into town. >If you'd like to email me directly, I will be happy to give you directions to >the old site. > >Deborah Greer--Gaynor >[email protected] > >In a message dated 05/24/2002 10:20:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > > >> Hello, >> >> I found in Arthur's "History of Watauga Co. NC" that my ancestors were >> among the founding members of Three Forks Baptist Church. I am planning >> a visit to Watauga Co. next month and would like to visit the church. I >> have two questions: >> >> First, is the church still standing >> Second, does anyone know how to get to it? i.e., what road is it on/how >> to get to it from a major road I can find on the map? >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Brett Callaway >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >==== NCWATAUG Mailing List ==== >Watauga County Reference Books and Materials >http://www.geocities.com/familysnooper/Wata_books.html >

Brett, I live in Boone and my ancestors were also among the founder of Three Forks...(Hortons and Greers). The old church ruins are still here and the graves of the Hortons are there. The new church is right on 421 as you come into town. If you'd like to email me directly, I will be happy to give you directions to the old site. Deborah Greer--Gaynor [email protected] In a message dated 05/24/2002 10:20:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Hello, > > I found in Arthur's "History of Watauga Co. NC" that my ancestors were > among the founding members of Three Forks Baptist Church. I am planning > a visit to Watauga Co. next month and would like to visit the church. I > have two questions: > > First, is the church still standing > Second, does anyone know how to get to it? i.e., what road is it on/how > to get to it from a major road I can find on the map? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Brett Callaway > > > > >

Hello, I found in Arthur's "History of Watauga Co. NC" that my ancestors were among the founding members of Three Forks Baptist Church. I am planning a visit to Watauga Co. next month and would like to visit the church. I have two questions: First, is the church still standing Second, does anyone know how to get to it? i.e., what road is it on/how to get to it from a major road I can find on the map? Any help would be appreciated. Brett Callaway

Hi Brett, My ancestors were also among the founding members. A couple of years ago I made the trip across country to Watauga County and visited both the existing Three Forks Baptist Church and the location where the original church once stood. There are photographs on my web site of the site of the original church site. http://www.johnwall.com/nc/ I cannot remember the name of the road it was on off the top of my head, I will look through my notes and see if I can find the exact directions. Otherwise the the church secretary was the one that gave me directions on how to find it. There is a granite marker that marks where the church stood and the cemetary is still there and is maintained. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Callaway" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 6:50 AM Subject: [NCWATAUG] Three Forks Baptist Church > Hello, > > I found in Arthur's "History of Watauga Co. NC" that my ancestors were > among the founding members of Three Forks Baptist Church. I am planning > a visit to Watauga Co. next month and would like to visit the church. I > have two questions: > > First, is the church still standing > Second, does anyone know how to get to it? i.e., what road is it on/how > to get to it from a major road I can find on the map? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Brett Callaway > > > > > ==== NCWATAUG Mailing List ==== > Watauga County NCGenWeb > http://www.geocities.com/familysnooper/Wata_county.html >

My great-uncle Dale Byrd of Washington state passed away April 26, 2002 in Okanogan, WA. Dale was born in Watauga County in 1911 and moved to the state of Washington in 1930. He was the youngest son (he had a younger sister Margie) of George W. Byrd and Mary (Alice) Townsend. He was married to Helen Townsend who preceeded him in death. He is survived by 7 children. Many years ago Uncle Dale told me all he could remember about his ancestors and I have found his information to have been very accurate. Vivian Byrd Elvidge

Does anyone know the ancestry of the George Younce who is a bass singer with the Cathedral Quartet? John O. Graybeal