I find DAVID GILL mentioned on once in Mrs. Kerr's deed book. on '22 Aug 1777, Wm DAVIS of Bute Co., to DAVID GILL of HALIFAX CO 173 pds:6:sh8d. procl money for 200 A in Bute Co. where he now lives on NS Ready Creek, adj. Roberson & Bobbitt........." Only two NEALS are listed in the index---Jeremiah and William, jr. I hope this helps some, Becky ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Is there someone out there who could tell me how to find out if there > was a deed of land made by David Gill to his daughter Elizabeth "Betsey" > Gill after she married Moses Neal in January 1785 in Warren Co? The > deed may have been for land in Warren Co, but possibly in Wake Co (see > below). I live in Texas, so can't do personal research in the NC > archives and will really appreciate any help.>>> >

Is there someone out there who could tell me how to find out if there was a deed of land made by David Gill to his daughter Elizabeth "Betsey" Gill after she married Moses Neal in January 1785 in Warren Co? The deed may have been for land in Warren Co, but possibly in Wake Co (see below). I live in Texas, so can't do personal research in the NC archives and will really appreciate any help. David Gill of Warren Co. purchased land in <Wake Co> in 1784, the year before Elizabeth "Betsey" married in <Warren Co>. Apparently he didn't move the family to Wake Co at the time he purchased the land, since Elizabeth married in Warren. David must have moved to Wake Co. at some time though, because when he died between January and July in 1788, four years after purchasing the land, his will had been recorded and was probated in Wake Co. In his will, he gave land to his other children, but only a money gift to Elizabeth, leading to the conclusion that she had received her legacy when she married. So, I would assume that a deed to Betsey had been filed in either Warren or Wake Co sometime between 1785 and 1788, but most likely closer to 1785, and it may have been made to Elizabeth Neal or to her husband Moses Neal. Will appreciate comments. Dolores Kinsey

Now available, Warren County Wills Books: Vol. 1 - 1764-1777 Vol. 2 - 1777-1779 Vol. 3 - 1779-1784 Vol. 4 - 1784-1787 Also 1830 Warren County Census The will books are complete wills, not abstracts, and contain full name index in the back of each book. Will Books are $12.00 each, and census is $3.00. There is a $3.00 shipping charge per order, not per book. If you are interested in purchasing any of the books, just e-mail me at my e-mail address, not through the list. Thanks. Laura Willis _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

No, my lines from Warren County are: Williams (Fork Township) Davis (Fishing Creek Twsp) Sneed (Fork Twsp) Rodgers (mostly Fishing Creek) Green (Fork Twsp) Copeland (Warrenton, Fishing Creek) Evans (mostly Shocco, Warrenton) There are also side families of Richardson and Hodges, which I've done very little on. Most of mine were either African American or Mulatto. Deloris

Has anyone else noticed that part of the 1870 Warren County census pages are missing online? In what is listed as Township No.8 and 9 on some pages, Littleton P.O. there are pages that seem to miss an entire neighborhood. I believe the area is what was later known as Fork. It's not just a matter of a family not being there, but it can easily be seen that the pages were skipped for some reason. On Ancestry it is listed as Image 305 Missing, while on Genealogy.com it just ends after Image 40 in Littleton. And of course, the families that I want are on these pages because I know they didn't move from their locations, and were there before 1870 and well into the 1900's and are still there, but with different names, naturally. It is plain to see that the census was recopied because of the repeated pages with neater writing later, but I was just wondering if anyone knows if these missing pages actually exist somewhere? Deloris

Hi, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that most of the answers didn't post through the Mailing List. Here is what I sent out to another member who didn't see a reply: Here's what they basically all say: The general rule is that if the infant is under fourteen, the court has full authority to name his guardian but if he is fourteen or older, he can nominate his own guardian subject to court approval. This guardian is usually required until the "child" reaches 21 or 18 depending on the state law at the time...or the instructions given in the will. Intestate proceedings usually follow the "becomes of age" which might be 21 in North Carolina...depending on the year. So basically an infant is any child under 14, and under 21 who required a guardian. It was also pointed out that the old laws only recognized two types of circumstances: INFANT and ADULT And again, thanks to all for the interest. Deloris ----- Original Message ----- From: <carol_simpson@springmail.com> To: "Deloris Williams" <vze3zfbd@verizon.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: Re: [NCWARREN-L] The word "Infant" in Documents > Please post the most common answer in NCWarren email mailing list so the rest of us will understand the term. I only saw one response to the general mailing list. Would appreciate it. Keep up the good work! > Thanks > Carol Simpson > -------Original Message------- > From: Deloris Williams <deloris.williams2@verizon.net> > Sent: 03/18/03 04:29 PM > To: NCWARREN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCWARREN-L] The word "Infant" in Documents > > > > > Thanks to all replies in response to my questions regarding Infants. I > really appreciate the prompt replies. > > > > Deloris > > > > ==== NCWARREN Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the Warren County Mailing list. Visit the Warren County > Website at <a target=_blank > href="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncwarren/">http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncwarren/ </a> > > > >

Thanks to all replies in response to my questions regarding Infants. I really appreciate the prompt replies. Deloris

In a message dated 3/18/03 10:54:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, deloris.williams2@verizon.net writes: > I'm hoping someone can answer my question. Does anyone know exactly what > age range is meant when old documents mention "the infant of"? The reason > for the question is that many old court and deed records I've come across > say something about leaving property, etc. to the infants of someone, yet > from other records of the same time those children weren't necessarily > babies, and indeed some may have been teenagers. So I get the idea that > the > meaning is much broader than is used now. If someone more familiar with > the > terms could reply, I'd greatly appreciate it. > > Delores: "the general rule is that if the infant is under fourteen, the court has full authority to name his guardian but if he is fourteen or older, he can nominate his own guardian subject to court approval." This guardian is ususally required until the "child" reaches 21 or 18 depending on the state law at the time...or the instructions given in the will. Intestate proceedings usually follow the "becomes of age" which might be 21 in North Carolina...depending on the year. So I would say the answer for infant is any child under fourteen and any child above 14 to age 21 would still require a guardian as well. Hope this helps. MJZ

Hi everyone. I'm hoping someone can answer my question. Does anyone know exactly what age range is meant when old documents mention "the infant of"? The reason for the question is that many old court and deed records I've come across say something about leaving property, etc. to the infants of someone, yet from other records of the same time those children weren't necessarily babies, and indeed some may have been teenagers. So I get the idea that the meaning is much broader than is used now. If someone more familiar with the terms could reply, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks. Deloris

I don't know if people are aware of this but there is a site online with the Warren County Bible Queries, of North Carolina. It is on the USGENWEB Project website and it has extracted pages from the Bibles listed on the Warren County site, with a complete name index for every one of the bibles listed at the Warren County Courthouse. There's plenty of birth, death and marriage info as well as names of slaves listed in those bibles for many of the families from Warren County and is a good resource to search. Here is the link: http://www.lofthouse.com/warren/bibles/query001.htm#49 Deloris Williams

I fxed the page. -- Ginger L. Christmas-Beattie Author-Publisher Helping you track your ancestors. Ancestral Track http//:www.ancestraltracks.com <http://www.ancestraltracks.com> Rootsweb Web CC of: Bath County NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbath/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encbath/> Orange County NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encorange/> Warren County NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncwarren/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encwarren/> Franklin County NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncfrankl/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encfrankl/>

It must be the server. The files are there but we cannot get to them. Clayton Taylor wrote: > I am trying to read the Warren Co Bible records and can not get the > Warren Co page. > I could not get the queries yesterday. > I do not look at the Warren Co site often, so I may have missed the > latest news about the website. > > Mary Lib -- Ginger L. Christmas-Beattie Author-Publisher Helping you track your ancestors. Ancestral Track http//:www.ancestraltracks.com <http://www.ancestraltracks.com> Rootsweb Web CC of: Bath County NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbath/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encbath/> Orange County NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncorange/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encorange/> Warren County NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncwarren/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encwarren/> Franklin County NC http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncfrankl/ <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encfrankl/>

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This is what I got from McAfee. Hoax Characteristics This email message is a hoax. jdbgmgr.exe is not a virus. Although, the jdbgmgr.exe file may become infected by a number of valid viruses (most commonly W32/Magistr@MM), the details of this hoax message are not based on actual events. We're advising users who receive the email to delete the message and not pass it on as this is how an email hoax propagates. It uses this icon: Joe McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: <SANNIESAN@aol.com> To: <NCWARREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:14 PM Subject: [NCWARREN-L] PLEASE READ!!!!!VIRUS ALERT DON'T DELETE > This email message came to me from someone in my email address book and must > pass it along, sorry. Please follow directions and check your systems. I > did and sure enough I found it. I don't know how long ago it occurred. > > It really is easy to delete, but it must be done soon. The virus has been > passed on to me by a contact. My address book in turn has been affected. > Since you are in my address book, there is a chance that you will find it in > your computer too. > > I followed the instructions below and eradicated the virus easily. The virus > (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by Norton or MacAfee anti-virus > programs. This virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It > is sent automatically by messenger and the address book, whether or not you > send emails to your contacts. > > Here's how to check for the virus and get rid of it: > 1. Go to start, Find or Search option. > 2. In the file/folders option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe > 3. Be sure you search your c-drive and all the sub-folders and any other > drives you may have. > 4. Click: "Find now". > 5. The virus has a grey teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe - DO NOT > OPEN IT. > 6. Go to edit (on the menu bar) and choose SELECT ALL to highlight the file > without opening it. > 7. Now go to the file (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go > to the recycle bin. > 8. Go to the recycle bin and delete it there as well. > IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS, you must contact all the people in your address book, > so they can eradicate it in their own address books. To do this: > 1. Open a new e-mail message. > 2. Click the icon of the address book next to the "To". > 3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC". > 4. Copy this message, enter subject and paste to e-mail. Then "Send". > Remember, you have to do this very quickly. > Sorry - I had to do this because I was in someone else's address > bookCharles L. Revelle, III > Revelle & Lee, L.L.P. > > 201 E. Main Street > > P. O. Box 448 > > Murfreesboro, NC 27855 > > Tel. 252-398-4171 > > Fax 252-398-4051 > > > > > > > > > > ==== NCWARREN Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the Warren County mailing list. Remember, flames are NOT allowed. If you have ANY problems with this list, contact nduffy@patch.net

<A HREF="http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html">Symantec Security Response - Jdbgmgr.exe file hoax</A> THIS IS A HOAX,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,GO TO THIS SITE,,HOAX HOAX This email message came to me from someone in my email address book and must pass it along, sorry. Please follow directions and check your systems. I did and sure enough I found it. I don't know how long ago it occurred. It really is easy to delete, but it must be done soon. The virus has been passed on to me by a contact. My address book in turn has been affected. Since you are in my address book, there is a chance that you will find it in your computer too. I followed the instructions below and eradicated the virus easily. The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by Norton or MacAfee anti-virus programs. This virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by messenger and the address book, whether or not you send emails to your contacts. Here's how to check for the virus and get rid of it: 1. Go to start, Find or Search option. 2. In the file/folders option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe 3. Be sure you search your c-drive and all the sub-folders and any other drives you may have. 4. Click: "Find now". 5. The virus has a grey teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe - DO NOT OPEN IT. 6. Go to edit (on the menu bar) and choose SELECT ALL to highlight the file without opening it. 7. Now go to the file (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go to the recycle bin. 8. Go to the recycle bin and delete it there as well. IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS, you must contact all the people in your address book, so they can eradicate it in their own address books. To do this: 1. Open a new e-mail message. 2. Click the icon of the address book next to the "To". 3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC". 4. Copy this message, enter subject and paste to e-mail. Then "Send". Remember, you have to do this very quickly. Sorry - I had to do this because I was in someone else's address bookCharles L. Revelle, III Revelle & Lee, L.L.P. 201 E. Main Street P. O. Box 448 Murfreesboro, NC 27855 Tel. 252-398-4171 Fax 252-398-4051

Folks, this is a HOAX. DO NOT DO ANY OF THESE THINGS. This kind of Message comes along every couple of months and it is a HOAX. I've seen this type of thing on a lot of Message Boards and it should be ignored. Stop forwarding this type of stuff to others since it is nothing but another persons idea of a joke and should be stopped right now. Deloris Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: <SANNIESAN@aol.com> To: <NCWARREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:14 PM Subject: [NCWARREN-L] PLEASE READ!!!!!VIRUS ALERT DON'T DELETE > This email message came to me from someone in my email address book and must > pass it along, sorry. Please follow directions and check your systems. I > did and sure enough I found it. I don't know how long ago it occurred. > > It really is easy to delete, but it must be done soon. The virus has been > passed on to me by a contact. My address book in turn has been affected. > Since you are in my address book, there is a chance that you will find it in > your computer too. > > I followed the instructions below and eradicated the virus easily. The virus > (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by Norton or MacAfee anti-virus > programs. This virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It > is sent automatically by messenger and the address book, whether or not you > send emails to your contacts. > > Here's how to check for the virus and get rid of it: > 1. Go to start, Find or Search option. > 2. In the file/folders option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe > 3. Be sure you search your c-drive and all the sub-folders and any other > drives you may have. > 4. Click: "Find now". > 5. The virus has a grey teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe - DO NOT > OPEN IT. > 6. Go to edit (on the menu bar) and choose SELECT ALL to highlight the file > without opening it. > 7. Now go to the file (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go > to the recycle bin. > 8. Go to the recycle bin and delete it there as well. > IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS, you must contact all the people in your address book, > so they can eradicate it in their own address books. To do this: > 1. Open a new e-mail message. > 2. Click the icon of the address book next to the "To". > 3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC". > 4. Copy this message, enter subject and paste to e-mail. Then "Send". > Remember, you have to do this very quickly. > Sorry - I had to do this because I was in someone else's address > bookCharles L. Revelle, III > Revelle & Lee, L.L.P. > > 201 E. Main Street > > P. O. Box 448 > > Murfreesboro, NC 27855 > > Tel. 252-398-4171 > > Fax 252-398-4051 > > > > > > > > > > ==== NCWARREN Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the Warren County mailing list. Remember, flames are NOT allowed. If you have ANY problems with this list, contact nduffy@patch.net > >

Again - this is a HOAX!!!!!!!!! DO NOT delete jdbgmgr.exe There's a rule of thumb with everything - if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is... If a virus sounds this easy to get rid of - DON'T buy it... Viruses are NEVER as simple to get rid of as just going in and deleting a file - ask someone who has really had one. Rule of thumb #2 - if your virus definitions are up to date - you are probably safe from most viruses and the likelihood that you have a "new" one, well it isn't very likely... This hoax has been circling for awhile now - PLEASE take the time to check things like this out before automatically assuming that your computer has a virus. If your system is running fine and you're not having a bunch of difficulties, if you can get online just fine and someone isn't telling you that you are sending out virus attachments, then don't be so quick to delete ANYTHING on your machine... ALWAYS check to make sure that things like this aren't a hoax. For what it's worth...

This email message came to me from someone in my email address book and must pass it along, sorry.  Please follow directions and check your systems.  I did and sure enough I found it.  I don't know how long ago it occurred. It really is easy to delete, but it must be done soon. The virus has been passed on to me by a contact. My address book in turn has been affected. Since you are in my address book, there is a chance that you will find it in your computer too. I followed the instructions below and eradicated the virus easily. The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by Norton or MacAfee anti-virus programs. This virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by messenger and the address book, whether or not you send emails to your contacts. Here's how to check for the virus and get rid of it: 1. Go to start, Find or Search option. 2. In the file/folders option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe 3. Be sure you search your c-drive and all the sub-folders and any other drives you may have. 4. Click: "Find now". 5. The virus has a grey teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe - DO NOT OPEN IT. 6. Go to edit (on the menu bar) and choose SELECT ALL to highlight the file without opening it. 7. Now go to the file (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go to the recycle bin. 8. Go to the recycle bin and delete it there as well. IF YOU FIND THE VIRUS, you must contact all the people in your address book, so they can eradicate it in their own address books. To do this: 1. Open a new e-mail message. 2. Click the icon of the address book next to the "To". 3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC". 4. Copy this message, enter subject and paste to e-mail. Then "Send". Remember, you have to do this very quickly. Sorry - I had to do this because I was in someone else's address bookCharles L. Revelle, III Revelle & Lee, L.L.P. 201 E. Main Street P. O. Box 448 Murfreesboro, NC 27855 Tel.      252-398-4171 Fax      252-398-4051

I agree. This is childish. Let's get back to the purpose of this board. Not arguing over "spilt milk." Deloris ----- Original Message ----- From: <PALEE55@aol.com> To: <NCWARREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:55 PM Subject: [NCWARREN-L] Ref. Heritage Book > > > When are both of you going to give it up ,,stop the madness !!!!!!! > Ann > > > Give it up Celeste! > > You are irritated because of your poor communication with your > Apartment Manager, who failed to tell you about the Dec. 18th delivery of > your book. So now you wish to shift blame elsewhere (anywhere). Get a grip, > please! NCWARREN List members can clearly see that you are embarrassed at > your own ineptness. Further you are blissfully unaware of the preparation > and publication process for County Heritage books It is regrettable that > you could not contact committee members. Here's a wild guess. Perhaps they > have other things on their agenda? These folk are Volunteers, who lovingly > prepared the manuscript, the photos, collected and deposited ALL FUNDS in > Warren County, and then prepared the shipping labels! Just like you (not > communicating with your Apartment > Manager) could it be they also are human and made mistakes? > > Can you spell "L-I-B-E-L" Celeste? You may want to brush up on that word > and its meaning before you continue your negative campaign. > > Most of us LOVE County Heritage books. Sorry you've had such a tough time. > > C. Heath > > > By the way, we have the book and absolutely love it! It arrived on > 12-18-02 just as yours did. We'd be happy to do any look-ups for folk who > did not get a copy! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Heritage2@aol.com> > To: <NCWARREN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:17 PM > Subject: Re: [NCWARREN-L] Warren County Heritage Book > > > > Thank you for informing the group Becky! The book is proving to be an > > interesting and good resource of information. Kudos to the Warren County > > Committee and to everyone who submitted articles and pictures!!!!!! > > > > It remains unfortunate that County Heritage fails to acknowledge their > lack > > of responsibility in this issue. (1) Unresponsive to emails for 3 months; > > until of course I made my concern public on the listserv; (2) financial > > records that were ill kept <at least on County Heritage's part>; I was > asked > > to show payment via a cancelled check; (3) then the miraculous discovery > of > > documentation and confirmation indicating I had paid and a package > tracking > > number to boot! (4) their need to 'save face' while not accepting their > share > > of the responsibility by informing the members of this listserv <instead > of > > my informing the listserv the issue had been resolved>. > > > > Well done County Heritage. You have demonstrated all of the textbook > > 'don'ts' for good customer service. > > > > > > Celeste > > > > ==== NCWARREN Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the Warren County NC Mailing list. Let's hear what you have to say! Send information regarding YOUR surnames of interest. Have a question about Warren County History? This is the place! Need information regarding a city in Warren County, THIS is where you need to be. Make your subject lines as clear as you possibly can. This will help you get the information you need. Questions? Contact nduffy@patch.net > >

When are both of you going to give it up ,,stop the madness !!!!!!! Ann Give it up Celeste! You are irritated because of your poor communication with your Apartment Manager, who failed to tell you about the Dec. 18th delivery of your book. So now you wish to shift blame elsewhere (anywhere). Get a grip, please!   NCWARREN List members can clearly see that you are embarrassed at your own ineptness.  Further you are blissfully unaware of the preparation and publication process for County Heritage books  It is regrettable that you could not contact committee members.  Here's a wild guess.  Perhaps they have other things on their agenda?  These folk are Volunteers, who lovingly prepared the manuscript, the photos, collected and deposited ALL FUNDS in Warren County, and then prepared the shipping labels!  Just like you (not communicating with your Apartment Manager) could it be they also are human and made mistakes? Can you spell "L-I-B-E-L" Celeste?  You may want to brush up on that word and its meaning before you continue your negative campaign. Most of us LOVE County Heritage books.  Sorry you've had such a tough time. C. Heath By the way, we have the book and absolutely love it!  It arrived on 12-18-02 just as yours did.  We'd be happy to do any look-ups for folk who did not get a copy! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Heritage2@aol.com> To: <NCWARREN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [NCWARREN-L] Warren County Heritage Book > Thank you for informing the group Becky!  The book is proving to be an >  interesting and good resource of information.  Kudos to the Warren County > Committee and to everyone who submitted articles and pictures!!!!!! > > It remains unfortunate that County Heritage fails to acknowledge their lack > of responsibility in this issue.  (1) Unresponsive to emails for 3 months; > until of course I made my concern public on the listserv; (2) financial > records that were ill kept <at least on County Heritage's part>; I was asked > to show payment via a cancelled check; (3) then the miraculous discovery of > documentation and confirmation indicating I had paid and a package tracking > number to boot! (4) their need to 'save face' while not accepting their share > of the responsibility by informing the members of this listserv <instead of > my informing the listserv the issue had been resolved>. > > Well done County Heritage.  You have demonstrated all of the textbook > 'don'ts' for good customer service. > > > Celeste