That sounds right Joanne; have seen it just "CB" or other times written out "Chain Bearers". It usually took younger men to do this. Have been told by someone with experience, that rods and chains were very heavy to carry around all day. Phillip Furr ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Gaudio" <jgaudio@charter.net> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Abbreviation > As an addendum to my query about the "ChB" and the "fee $150" - after > looking with a magnifying glass, the $150 is really $1.50 - quite a > difference! With that in mind, I wonder if the ChB stands for > chainbearers, > which I think surveyors would have used back then also. The two names > seem > to be boys in the 10-12 year old range and might be employed in that > fashion. Does that sound right? Joanne Gaudio > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/717 - Release Date: 3/10/2007 > 2:25 PM > >

As an addendum to my query about the "ChB" and the "fee $150" - after looking with a magnifying glass, the $150 is really $1.50 - quite a difference! With that in mind, I wonder if the ChB stands for chainbearers, which I think surveyors would have used back then also. The two names seem to be boys in the 10-12 year old range and might be employed in that fashion. Does that sound right? Joanne Gaudio

On a surveyor's map drawn in Wake Co. in 1856 for the parties to a lawsuit over land, the abbreviation ChB. was given next to two names - C. M. Williams and J. M. Mooneyham - at the bottom of the page, and the words "fee $150" was indicated after each name. Does anyone know what the "ChB" stands for? The document is from the County certifying that the above map represents the lands in dispute (signed, interestingly, for the county by F. Bevers - has to be Fendol Bevers of later Wake Co. map fame!), and a Surveyors fee of $9 is noted. But we can't figure out the "ChB" beside the names. Any ideas??? Joanne Pearce Gaudio I should add that the lawsuit was between Richard B. Seawell and Henry Bunch over lands previously left by John Nutt, Sr. to various family members in 1819. If anyone knows anything about the lawsuit, I'd sure like to know!

There is a Neal's Creek that runs from the Angier area suth totheCape Fear River .. into the river just se of Lillington. RMButler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Hamilton" <nbhamil@msn.com> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:22 PM Subject: [NCWAKE] Neals Creek > Could someone help me identify where Neals Creek is (or was)? I have a > ggg > grandfather, Alsey Hamilton, who bought land on Neals Creek in 1819. I > would like to have a general idea of where that would be in Wake county. > > Thanks, Nancy nbhamil@msn.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Nancy, Here are a couple of possibilities from Dr. William Powell's North Carolina Gazetteer: Neal Branch: rises in southern Wake County and flows east into Swift Creek; Neills Creek: rises in southern Wake County and flows sw in north Harnett County into Cape Fear River. Named for Red Neill McNeill who settled along its banks in 1740. There's also a Neill Creek Township in Harnett County. And while I'm sure the following has nothing to do with your search, I thought this one was sort of funny and is in Franklin County: Neal Gut, a narrow water-filled defile in central Franklin County which empties into the Tar River. ;-) For what it's worth, Swift Creek seems to be south of Cary/ north of Angier - and seems to flow into Lake Wheeler. I cannot seem to spot Neal Branch as being labeled in my particular Atlas - but there are numerous healthy-sized branches in that area that flow into Swift Creek, so any one of them might be Neal Branch. I do see Neills Creek which is mostly in Harnett County - but you can see the faint lines of its origin just over the Wake line, south of Fuquay-Varina. It my atlas, it looks like Kenneth Creek flows into this Neills Creek. In any case, while both seem to be associated with southern Wake, it does seem that Neal Branch and Neills Creek are two different water courses. Hope this helps, Sandy On Mar 8, 2007, at 10:22 PM, Nancy Hamilton wrote: > Could someone help me identify where Neals Creek is (or was)? I > have a ggg > grandfather, Alsey Hamilton, who bought land on Neals Creek in > 1819. I > would like to have a general idea of where that would be in Wake > county. > > Thanks, Nancy nbhamil@msn.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Could someone help me identify where Neals Creek is (or was)? I have a ggg grandfather, Alsey Hamilton, who bought land on Neals Creek in 1819. I would like to have a general idea of where that would be in Wake county. Thanks, Nancy nbhamil@msn.com

Looking for any Intel on Migrations from-JOCO/ WAKE/ RALIEH, NC areas- (POST-REV.WAR-1800)!!----NC>>SC>>GA>>AL! *HINTON*--*MONTGOMERY*--*BROWN*--*ALSTON*--*MITCHELL*--*MOORE*, and Extended families!! Thanks BA in North GA!! -----Original Message----- From: ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ayers, B. J. Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 4:07 AM To: ncwake@rootsweb.com Cc: NCJOHNST-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Crabtree Creek in Wake Co.---RE RALIEGH,NC AREAS -*MAP*- WHERE EXACTLY-would have the several - *HINTON ESTATES*- have been in the *KNIGHTSDALE/ JOCO Area* we now see Nothing on the MAP??? Probably about a couple Thousand ACRES back Then On/ around the- *NEUSE RIVER*??? Thanks & GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA- In North GA!! Looking for Surnames; *HINTON*, *MONTGOMERY*,*ALSTON*,*HARDY*, KIMBROUGH, MILLER & THOMPSON and Inter-Related Families!! -----Original Message----- From: ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kemp Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:53 AM To: ncwake@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Crabtree Creek in Wake Co. Before or after a heavy rain? :-) It is a very long creek and covers a great distance in Raleigh. It is responsible for nearly all of the major flooding that Raleigh ever incurs. It has on of NC's largest shopping malls, many shopping centers, several major car lots, etc. on it's banks in some of it's most vulnerable areas. You will now see numerous places where businesses have been torn down after giving up on the flooding and new businesses have been built only after hauling in gravel and dirt and building a foundation 12-20 feet above the surrounding area. It looks like buildings built on minature flat topped pyramids. Funny looking, but it works. See the map at http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=mozclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=glenw ood%20ave.%2C%20raleigh%2C%20nc&sa=N&tab=wl Rootsweb will undoubtably break the link above into two lines, so you will have to reconstruct it. Crabtree Creek is in the very center of this map and you will be able to click and drag the map following it through most of Raleigh. As it crosses I-440 and Glenwood Avenue to the northwest of this location it becomes too small to show on the map, yet no less prone to flooding and damages. This is where the large shopping mall Crabtree Valley Mall, which shows on the map, has been flooded numerous times over the past 30 years. Tim Kemp Joanne Gaudio wrote: >Can anyone give me an idea where Crabtree Creek is (or was) located? >

Do you have a George Alston who would have been alive in 1816 in Wake Co., NC? Trying to find out what his connections might be to the Warmoth family there. Sue Hall -----Original Message----- From: ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ayers, B. J. Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:07 AM To: ncwake@rootsweb.com Cc: NCJOHNST-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Crabtree Creek in Wake Co.---RE RALIEGH,NC AREAS -*MAP*- WHERE EXACTLY-would have the several - *HINTON ESTATES*- have been in the *KNIGHTSDALE/ JOCO Area* we now see Nothing on the MAP??? Probably about a couple Thousand ACRES back Then On/ around the- *NEUSE RIVER*??? Thanks and GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA- In North GA!! Looking for Surnames; *HINTON*, *MONTGOMERY*,*ALSTON*,*HARDY*, KIMBROUGH, MILLER & THOMPSON and Inter-Related Families!! -----Original Message----- From: ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kemp Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:53 AM To: ncwake@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Crabtree Creek in Wake Co. Before or after a heavy rain? :-) It is a very long creek and covers a great distance in Raleigh. It is responsible for nearly all of the major flooding that Raleigh ever incurs. It has on of NC's largest shopping malls, many shopping centers, several major car lots, etc. on it's banks in some of it's most vulnerable areas. You will now see numerous places where businesses have been torn down after giving up on the flooding and new businesses have been built only after hauling in gravel and dirt and building a foundation 12-20 feet above the surrounding area. It looks like buildings built on minature flat topped pyramids. Funny looking, but it works. See the map at http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=mozclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=glenw ood%20ave.%2C%20raleigh%2C%20nc&sa=N&tab=wl Rootsweb will undoubtably break the link above into two lines, so you will have to reconstruct it. Crabtree Creek is in the very center of this map and you will be able to click and drag the map following it through most of Raleigh. As it crosses I-440 and Glenwood Avenue to the northwest of this location it becomes too small to show on the map, yet no less prone to flooding and damages. This is where the large shopping mall Crabtree Valley Mall, which shows on the map, has been flooded numerous times over the past 30 years. Tim Kemp Joanne Gaudio wrote: >Can anyone give me an idea where Crabtree Creek is (or was) located? > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

B.J., The Neuse River is just west of Knightdale, NC which is in Wake County just east of Raleigh. It flows towards Johnston County (JoCo area) which is just south of there. For a history of the Hinton Plantation and the Hinton family of that area, including a map, see: http://www.mindspring.com/~baumbach/hinton/history.htm A history of Col. John Hinton (and his ancestory), including his Last Will and Testament, which gives more details on the location and boundarys of his estate, can be found at http://www.mindspring.com/~baumbach/hinton/jhinton.htm Tim Kemp Fuquay-Varina, Wake County, NC Ayers, B. J. wrote: > >WHERE EXACTLY-would have the several - *HINTON ESTATES*- have been in >the *KNIGHTSDALE/ JOCO Area* we now see Nothing on the MAP??? > >Probably about a couple Thousand ACRES back Then On/ around the- *NEUSE >RIVER*??? > -- Tim Kemp Amateur Radio Station WB4BAH The Kemp Family Homepage http://www.mindspring.com/~tkemp Genealogy info on KEMP, STROTHER, MURPHY, and allied families.

Hi, Knightdale is in Wake Co., The "JOCO" refers to Johnston County which is just south of Wake. Ginger "Ayers, B. J." <X2BAYERS@southernco.com> wrote: WHERE EXACTLY-would have the several - *HINTON ESTATES*- have been in the *KNIGHTSDALE/ JOCO Area* we now see Nothing on the MAP??? Probably about a couple Thousand ACRES back Then On/ around the- *NEUSE RIVER*??? Thanks and GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA- In North GA!! Looking for Surnames; *HINTON*, *MONTGOMERY*,*ALSTON*,*HARDY*, KIMBROUGH, MILLER & THOMPSON and Inter-Related Families!! -----Original Message----- From: ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kemp Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:53 AM To: ncwake@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Crabtree Creek in Wake Co. Before or after a heavy rain? :-) It is a very long creek and covers a great distance in Raleigh. It is responsible for nearly all of the major flooding that Raleigh ever incurs. It has on of NC's largest shopping malls, many shopping centers, several major car lots, etc. on it's banks in some of it's most vulnerable areas. You will now see numerous places where businesses have been torn down after giving up on the flooding and new businesses have been built only after hauling in gravel and dirt and building a foundation 12-20 feet above the surrounding area. It looks like buildings built on minature flat topped pyramids. Funny looking, but it works. See the map at http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=mozclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=glenw ood%20ave.%2C%20raleigh%2C%20nc&sa=N&tab=wl Rootsweb will undoubtably break the link above into two lines, so you will have to reconstruct it. Crabtree Creek is in the very center of this map and you will be able to click and drag the map following it through most of Raleigh. As it crosses I-440 and Glenwood Avenue to the northwest of this location it becomes too small to show on the map, yet no less prone to flooding and damages. This is where the large shopping mall Crabtree Valley Mall, which shows on the map, has been flooded numerous times over the past 30 years. Tim Kemp Joanne Gaudio wrote: >Can anyone give me an idea where Crabtree Creek is (or was) located? > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.

WHERE EXACTLY-would have the several - *HINTON ESTATES*- have been in the *KNIGHTSDALE/ JOCO Area* we now see Nothing on the MAP??? Probably about a couple Thousand ACRES back Then On/ around the- *NEUSE RIVER*??? Thanks and GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA- In North GA!! Looking for Surnames; *HINTON*, *MONTGOMERY*,*ALSTON*,*HARDY*, KIMBROUGH, MILLER & THOMPSON and Inter-Related Families!! -----Original Message----- From: ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kemp Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:53 AM To: ncwake@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Crabtree Creek in Wake Co. Before or after a heavy rain? :-) It is a very long creek and covers a great distance in Raleigh. It is responsible for nearly all of the major flooding that Raleigh ever incurs. It has on of NC's largest shopping malls, many shopping centers, several major car lots, etc. on it's banks in some of it's most vulnerable areas. You will now see numerous places where businesses have been torn down after giving up on the flooding and new businesses have been built only after hauling in gravel and dirt and building a foundation 12-20 feet above the surrounding area. It looks like buildings built on minature flat topped pyramids. Funny looking, but it works. See the map at http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=mozclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=glenw ood%20ave.%2C%20raleigh%2C%20nc&sa=N&tab=wl Rootsweb will undoubtably break the link above into two lines, so you will have to reconstruct it. Crabtree Creek is in the very center of this map and you will be able to click and drag the map following it through most of Raleigh. As it crosses I-440 and Glenwood Avenue to the northwest of this location it becomes too small to show on the map, yet no less prone to flooding and damages. This is where the large shopping mall Crabtree Valley Mall, which shows on the map, has been flooded numerous times over the past 30 years. Tim Kemp Joanne Gaudio wrote: >Can anyone give me an idea where Crabtree Creek is (or was) located? > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Donald & Henry I see you come from the Pools of Johnston & Wake Co. NC. I explored them for a while looking for the parents of my John Pool (wife Elizabeth). He turned up in Rowan Co., NC and bought expensive property in 1810. Ithink he came from some other county. Sons David Lawton and Joseph. John Pool died in 1832. I think you might be interested in the ex-slave Parker Pool. These are slave narratives written down by the WPA in the 1930s. Parker Pool came from the Pools in your area--I think his master was a Lewis Pool, but not sure. The collection of interviews is contained at the Library of Congress & can be read on-line. Go here: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/snhtml/snhome.html I clicked on search by keyword & went down to the big search box and entered the name Pool. Parker Pool is the 2nd entry I think. You can also search by state, etc. The state doesn't matter because slaves were moved around and after the Civil War, went to other states entirely--the state shown is the state where the interview took place in the 1930s, and the ex-slave would have to have been really young to live from Civil War times to the 1930s. Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:34:17 EST From: Donnell892@aol.com Subject: Re: [POOLE] DNA Project To: poole@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c63.bd10f99.331c9559@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I would be interested in learning more about this project. My Poole's were from Wake County, N.C. Thank you. Donald E. Poole Windham, Maine.

Can someone familiar with the Wendell area tell me the location of terms of street names of the Wendell Municipal Cemetery? I have a Wake Co. road atlas, and I see a cemetery labeled Wendell Cemetery in the angle formed by East St. and Academy St. on the west side of Wendell, north of Wendell Park. Would this be it? There are also a number of smaller unnamed cemteries marked in the atlas. I tried looking up both "Wendell Municipal Cemetery" and "Wendell Cemetery" on MapQuest, but it didn't recognize either name. In the Wake Co. Heritage Book the section on William Oscar Todd mentions that he purchased almost 500 acres of land from Gibson Pearce in 1849, some of which now comprises the Wendell Municipal Cemetery. Thanks. Joanne Pearce Gaudio

Hi Debbie - I was looking for two of them and thought I'd try writing to Wilson Co., but if you think they'd be at the Archives to copy, I can hold off on my request to Wilson - I'm looking for Mittie A. (Ann) Riley, born about 1835 and died 20 Apr 1910 in Wilson Co. and Tyler T. (Thomas) Riley, born about 1851 and died 2 Jan 1920 in Wilson Co. Tyler's legal last name was Pearce (he went by Pearce in 1870, on his marriage license in 1874, and in 1880, but he had reverted to Riley by 1900 and all his sons used Riley, as does his entry in the NC Death Index). He was Mittie Ann's son fathered by Applewhite Bunn before her 1854 marriage to J. William Riley. If you find anything, let me know and I'll happily pay for copying, etc. Thanks. Joanne

Are there any JACKSONS or KENNONS in the book? ncwake-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Elijah Godwin (Ginger Smith) > 2. Wake Co. Heritage Book (Joanne Gaudio) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 17:33:06 -0800 (PST) > From: Ginger Smith <grs3275@yahoo.com> > Subject: [NCWAKE] Elijah Godwin > To: ncwake@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <908420.25787.qm@web37507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Joanne, > > Is there information on Elijah Godwin's family in the Wake County Heritage Book? And is there one or two volumes of the book available? > > Thank you, > Ginger > > Joanne Gaudio <jgaudio@charter.net> wrote: > Sorry List, I see I made an error in thinking Curtis Todd's wife was Amanda RILEY. I finally thought of looking in the Wake Heritage Book and sure enough, Curtis is in there and his wife's maiden name was also Todd. I guess the middle name of Riley must have come from her uncle, Riley Privette. I haven't had the book long so I tend to forget to look things up before I ask! Thanks anyway. > Joanne Gaudio > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:18:17 -0500 > From: "Joanne Gaudio" <jgaudio@charter.net> > Subject: [NCWAKE] Wake Co. Heritage Book > To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <001001c75e0b$c0cead90$6501a8c0@Mobile> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Ginger, > The reply I sent came back, so let me repeat that I did not find Elijah Godwin or Goodwin in the Wake Co. Heritage Book. I think you asked me how many volumes there are to the book - there's one. > Joanne Gaudio > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NCWAKE list administrator, send an email to > NCWAKE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NCWAKE mailing list, send an email to NCWAKE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NCWAKE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 60 > ************************************* > >

Joanne - I'm going to the Archives next week and would be happy to check this for you. Tell me exactly what it is that you need, with as much info. that you already know, and I'll see what I can find. Debbie Spencer Raleigh, NC 919-846-3670 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Gaudio" <jgaudio@charter.net> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] death certificates- PS > Thanks to everyone for the good advice. Sue, does that last info you gave > mean they wouldn't send an old (1910) death record out to anyone but a > close > relative? I've seen that kind of warning before and it sounds as thought > they won't give anything to anyone other than a direct and close relative. > Does anyone have recent experience with this? Joanne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Ginger, The reply I sent came back, so let me repeat that I did not find Elijah Godwin or Goodwin in the Wake Co. Heritage Book. I think you asked me how many volumes there are to the book - there's one. Joanne Gaudio

Hi Joanne, Is there information on Elijah Godwin's family in the Wake County Heritage Book? And is there one or two volumes of the book available? Thank you, Ginger Joanne Gaudio <jgaudio@charter.net> wrote: Sorry List, I see I made an error in thinking Curtis Todd's wife was Amanda RILEY. I finally thought of looking in the Wake Heritage Book and sure enough, Curtis is in there and his wife's maiden name was also Todd. I guess the middle name of Riley must have come from her uncle, Riley Privette. I haven't had the book long so I tend to forget to look things up before I ask! Thanks anyway. Joanne Gaudio ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.

Sorry List, I see I made an error in thinking Curtis Todd's wife was Amanda RILEY. I finally thought of looking in the Wake Heritage Book and sure enough, Curtis is in there and his wife's maiden name was also Todd. I guess the middle name of Riley must have come from her uncle, Riley Privette. I haven't had the book long so I tend to forget to look things up before I ask! Thanks anyway. Joanne Gaudio

Does anyone know the parents of the Amanda Riley (1859-1947) who married Curtis V. Todd (1859-1947) about 1877? Curtis was the son of William O. and Eliza Privette Todd. Curtis and his siblings were heirs in the estate of their grandfather, James Todd, in Wake Co., and he was mentioned in a 1778 court document as "Curtis Todd & wife Amanda Riley Todd." I can't find Amanda Riley in the 1870 census. I'm interested in two different Riley families, and I'd sure be interested to know if Amanda was connected to one of them! In 1910 Cirt V. and Amanda Todd lived in Marks Creek and said they'd been married 33 years. Thanks. Joanne Pearce Gaudio