_____________________________________________ From: Ayers, B. J. Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:59 PM To: 'hinton@rootsweb.com'; 'NCJOHNST-L-request@rootsweb.com'; 'ncwake@rootsweb.com'; 'ncchowan@rootsweb.com' Cc: VIRGINIA-L@rootsweb.com; 'jamestown@apva.org' Subject: RE: [HINTON] --GATES/ "CHOWAN",NC- (ca-1715)-HINTON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 53 06DEC07 There is a little Intel in--- *CHOWAN COUNTY, NC*--- [Formerly *ALBERMARLE DISTRICT*]-! A *COL.JOHN HINTON*-(b.Eng-ca-1670-1731) - and MARY (HARDY) _HINTON-[of the DR.THOMAS HINTON line], Family migrated from the "JAMESTOWNE COLONY, VA"--sometime (before-1715)????????? Known sons--(all born-before/circa-1715???- )-*COL.JOHN [JR]*--JAMES--HARDY--and MALACHI-(b.NC-ca-1730)-m.-Sarah (WIMBERLY)!!! Our' Line- *COL.JOHN HINTON-[JR]*-(b.ca-1715-1785) - & GRIZZELA (KIMBROUGH)-HINTON!! Most of this Extended family migrated-(before-1760)-to: "JOCO/WAKE/RALIEGH", NC areas, with MONTGOMERY/ BROWN/ BRADFORD/ BRYAN/ HARDY/HARGROVE/LANE/ MOORE/ SMITH/ ROBERTSON, amongst others!!! Looking for ANY Intel on their Migration to "GEORGIA"-(post REV.WAR-1800)!!! crumbs & tidbits are welcome!! MERRY CHRISTMAS & GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA-In North GA!! -----Original Message----- From: hinton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hinton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Obxtxn@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:57 PM To: hinton@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HINTON] HINTON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 53 Lillian All my records are Hintons in the Pasquotank (Elizabeth City) and Gates County area of NC. The first one in my records is William Hinton b.1750 in Pasquotank Co., NC, d. Dec 7 1783 in New York City. He married a Phoebe Smith in Apr 1772 in NY. William apparently had a brother named John. Their children were William Smith Hinton b. 1772 in NY, Anne Hinton b. 1774, Sarah Hinton, b.1777, Thomas Hinton, b. 1779. Interesting tidbit- William's brother John had a daughter, Caroline who married her first cousin, Thomas , son of William Smith Hinton. If you haven't already checked on RootsWeb.com try ( I haven't been on there in forever so I don't even remember exactly how I got to the info) looking up in the Hinton lines a history by Roger Howland under the Howland, Morrison & Allied families. It may not be any of your kin but he has an extensive research on Hintons. Wish I could have helped you more. Good luck! Vonna

Thank you. This is a good tip for someone. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geneology York" <yorkdkf@cox.net> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: [NCWAKE] Burwell Bell of Wake CO to tN? > > Burrell BELL mentioned in Blount cO records of 1820 > . +Sophia YANCEY m: 1797 Blount CO, TN > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Burrell BELL mentioned in Blount cO records of 1820 . +Sophia YANCEY m: 1797 Blount CO, TN

To Mary Williams, Are you kin to the Bells in Wake Co., or further back, in Surry/Sussex Co., Va? I have found a Burwell Bell in my Freeman records and it goes like this -7 Jan 1799 Wake Co., NC Deed Bk Q/37 - Burwell Bell of Wake Co. sells for 10 sh. to John Freeman, Jr. of same place, a parcel of 10 ac on N bank Crabtree Ck. at the bridge adj. his own land, it being part of a tract gt. Godfrey Hartsfield from the State of NC. Wit: Francis Phillips, Andrew Hartsfield (The transcribed record had this as just John Freeman, but a copy of the original gave it as John, Jr.) I don't know what years you are working on, but back in Va. the Freemans and Bells were kin. I would have to look this up and supposedly per DNA, the Freemans in Va. were not mine, but this one in Wake is. John, Jr. Freeman is a brother to my ancestor Needham, both sons of John who d. 1800 Wake. Wilma K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Williams" <MaryOwl@verizon.net> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] WEATHERS family & King, Redding >I am a member of DOGS in Durham and I saw your message to Sam about the > family of FREEMANS The FREEMANS are a family that I have not been able > to > locate. A.B. and B.B.( Burwell or Burl was my great Grandfather on my > Mothers side. I am Mary Louie Gunter Williams I live at 4707 Whitfield > Road > Durham,NC 27707 phone 919-489-2022 would love to find out if we share > ancestors. E-mail Maryowl@verizon.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of W. Kirkland > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:00 PM > To: ncwake@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] WEATHERS family & King, Redding > > Sam, > > If you have seen the estate sale in Wake Co. of John King in 1801 which > Needham, John & Jeptha Freeman attended, the Freemans are sons of my > ancestor John Freeman, d. 1800 Wake Co.. Son Needham named a son > Redding/Redden/Reddin Freeman. I can find no marriage between the > families > and figure Needham must have just thought a lot of the Redding family to > give a son that name. Any ideas? John also had a Francis Freeman & a > Clary > Freeman, which are also King names. > > Wilma K. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Redding" <sredding@adi.org> > To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> > >>> Wake County, North Carolina >> >> >> >> On April 17, 1787, the estate of Drury King was sold in Wake County, >> and Francis Redding was named the administrator. Accounts were settled >> over the next 10 years, and purchases were made by Francis Redding, >> Francis Redding, Jr., James Redding, Henry Temple, Francis King, and >> Wright Hilliard. >> >> >> >> April 22, 1787: Francis Redding was the bondsman for the marriage of >> Wrightman Hillard/Hilliard to Elizabeth Brown a few days after the >> estate sale of Drury King. >> >> >> ________________________________ >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi, I am looking for a possible connection between my Pollard family and the Hinton family of Wake co NC. I believe I am descended from Joshua, 1800-ca 1850, and Elizabeth (Reavis), 1807- ca 1880, Pollard through their son Barzillai Betts Pollard (alternate spelling Barsilla). He was born abt 1845. He had a brother Joshua Hinton Pollard, born abt 1836. I have read that surnames of relatives were often used as middle names for children. For that matter, I am also looking for a connection to the Betts line. I have found a Barzillai Betts, ca 1800-?, that is a bondsman for more than one Pollard or related marriage. Again, I have read that often an financially established uncle or elder relative would be the bondsman. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Sincerely, Jeremy Brock ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

HARDY is spelled HARDEE in one of the books. ncwake-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Utiley Families (Ruth) > 2. Utley (Jo Ann Crafton) > 3. Re: [HINTON] --GATES/ "CHOWAN", NC- (ca-1715)-HINTON Digest, > Vol 2, Issue 53 (Ayers, B. J.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:21:27 -0600 > From: Ruth <erhary@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Utiley Families > To: ncwake@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <47580567.3000309@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Since I have an unidentified Utley in one of my lines, I am seeking > parents of Elizabeth Utley who married Thomas Samuel Blake in Cumberland > Co, NC June 07, 1813. Any information would be appreciated. I am > hoping someone may have an Elizabeth Utley in their family lines.. Any > information or suggestions will be appreciated. > > Thomas Samuel Blake's first wife was Mary "Polly" Clements and they were > married in Wake Co. on May 20, 1797. > > Thanks. > Ruth J. Hary > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:30:57 -0800 > From: "Jo Ann Crafton" <jcrafton1@bak.rr.com> > Subject: [NCWAKE] Utley > To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <004701c83836$25444640$17ea554b@Joann> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Hi, > > I am searching for a Utley/Mangum/Hitchcock connection in NC or TN. > > Any help appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Jo Ann Crafton > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:59:21 -0500 > From: "Ayers, B. J." <X2BAYERS@southernco.com> > Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] [HINTON] --GATES/ "CHOWAN", NC- (ca-1715)-HINTON > Digest, Vol 2, Issue 53 > To: <hinton@rootsweb.com>, <NCJOHNST-L-request@rootsweb.com>, > <ncwake@rootsweb.com>, <ncchowan@rootsweb.com> > Cc: jamestown@apva.org, VIRGINIA-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <B109DC6238B1EF4CA74C3C18D211D9A2017F5893@GAXGPEX36.southernco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > 06DEC07 > > There is a little Intel in--- *CHOWAN COUNTY, NC*--- [Formerly > *ALBERMARLE DISTRICT*]-! > A *COL.JOHN HINTON*-(b.Eng-ca-1670-1731) - and MARY (HARDY) _HINTON-[of > the DR.THOMAS HINTON line], Family migrated from the "JAMESTOWNE COLONY, > VA"--sometime (before-1715)????????? > Known sons--(all born-before/circa-1715???- )-*COL.JOHN > [JR]*--JAMES--HARDY--and MALACHI-(b.NC-ca-1730)-m.-Sarah (WIMBERLY)!!! > Our' Line- *COL.JOHN HINTON-[JR]*-(b.ca-1715-1785) - & GRIZZELA > (KIMBROUGH)-HINTON!! > Most of this Extended family migrated-(before-1760)-to: > "JOCO/WAKE/RALIEGH", NC areas, with MONTGOMERY/ BROWN/ BRADFORD/ BRYAN/ > HARDY/HARGROVE/LANE/ MOORE/ SMITH/ ROBERTSON, amongst others!!! > > Looking for ANY Intel on their Migration to "GEORGIA"-(post > REV.WAR-1800)!!! > crumbs & tidbits are welcome!! > MERRY CHRISTMAS & GOD BLESS > SEMPER FI > > BA-In North GA!! > -----Original Message----- > From: hinton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hinton-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Obxtxn@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:57 PM > To: hinton@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HINTON] HINTON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 53 > > Lillian > All my records are Hintons in the Pasquotank (Elizabeth City) and Gates > > County area of NC. The first one in my records is William Hinton b.1750 > in > Pasquotank Co., NC, d. Dec 7 1783 in New York City. He married a > Phoebe Smith in > Apr 1772 in NY. William apparently had a brother named John. Their > children > were William Smith Hinton b. 1772 in NY, Anne Hinton b. 1774, Sarah > Hinton, > b.1777, Thomas Hinton, b. 1779. Interesting tidbit- William's brother > John had > a daughter, Caroline who married her first cousin, Thomas , son of > William > Smith Hinton. > If you haven't already checked on RootsWeb.com try ( I haven't been on > there > in forever so I don't even remember exactly how I got to the info) > looking > up in the Hinton lines a history by Roger Howland under the Howland, > Morrison > & Allied families. It may not be any of your kin but he has an > extensive > research on Hintons. > Wish I could have helped you more. Good luck! > > Vonna > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NCWAKE list administrator, send an email to > NCWAKE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NCWAKE mailing list, send an email to NCWAKE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NCWAKE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 165 > ************************************** >

Have you looked "The Banks Of Elbert Ga"? Also, "The Alston-Allston Families 1901". These books have a lot in them. ncwake-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Utiley Families (Ruth) > 2. Utley (Jo Ann Crafton) > 3. Re: [HINTON] --GATES/ "CHOWAN", NC- (ca-1715)-HINTON Digest, > Vol 2, Issue 53 (Ayers, B. J.) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:21:27 -0600 > From: Ruth <erhary@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Utiley Families > To: ncwake@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <47580567.3000309@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Since I have an unidentified Utley in one of my lines, I am seeking > parents of Elizabeth Utley who married Thomas Samuel Blake in Cumberland > Co, NC June 07, 1813. Any information would be appreciated. I am > hoping someone may have an Elizabeth Utley in their family lines.. Any > information or suggestions will be appreciated. > > Thomas Samuel Blake's first wife was Mary "Polly" Clements and they were > married in Wake Co. on May 20, 1797. > > Thanks. > Ruth J. Hary > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:30:57 -0800 > From: "Jo Ann Crafton" <jcrafton1@bak.rr.com> > Subject: [NCWAKE] Utley > To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <004701c83836$25444640$17ea554b@Joann> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Hi, > > I am searching for a Utley/Mangum/Hitchcock connection in NC or TN. > > Any help appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Jo Ann Crafton > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 17:59:21 -0500 > From: "Ayers, B. J." <X2BAYERS@southernco.com> > Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] [HINTON] --GATES/ "CHOWAN", NC- (ca-1715)-HINTON > Digest, Vol 2, Issue 53 > To: <hinton@rootsweb.com>, <NCJOHNST-L-request@rootsweb.com>, > <ncwake@rootsweb.com>, <ncchowan@rootsweb.com> > Cc: jamestown@apva.org, VIRGINIA-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <B109DC6238B1EF4CA74C3C18D211D9A2017F5893@GAXGPEX36.southernco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > 06DEC07 > > There is a little Intel in--- *CHOWAN COUNTY, NC*--- [Formerly > *ALBERMARLE DISTRICT*]-! > A *COL.JOHN HINTON*-(b.Eng-ca-1670-1731) - and MARY (HARDY) _HINTON-[of > the DR.THOMAS HINTON line], Family migrated from the "JAMESTOWNE COLONY, > VA"--sometime (before-1715)????????? > Known sons--(all born-before/circa-1715???- )-*COL.JOHN > [JR]*--JAMES--HARDY--and MALACHI-(b.NC-ca-1730)-m.-Sarah (WIMBERLY)!!! > Our' Line- *COL.JOHN HINTON-[JR]*-(b.ca-1715-1785) - & GRIZZELA > (KIMBROUGH)-HINTON!! > Most of this Extended family migrated-(before-1760)-to: > "JOCO/WAKE/RALIEGH", NC areas, with MONTGOMERY/ BROWN/ BRADFORD/ BRYAN/ > HARDY/HARGROVE/LANE/ MOORE/ SMITH/ ROBERTSON, amongst others!!! > > Looking for ANY Intel on their Migration to "GEORGIA"-(post > REV.WAR-1800)!!! > crumbs & tidbits are welcome!! > MERRY CHRISTMAS & GOD BLESS > SEMPER FI > > BA-In North GA!! > -----Original Message----- > From: hinton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hinton-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Obxtxn@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:57 PM > To: hinton@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HINTON] HINTON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 53 > > Lillian > All my records are Hintons in the Pasquotank (Elizabeth City) and Gates > > County area of NC. The first one in my records is William Hinton b.1750 > in > Pasquotank Co., NC, d. Dec 7 1783 in New York City. He married a > Phoebe Smith in > Apr 1772 in NY. William apparently had a brother named John. Their > children > were William Smith Hinton b. 1772 in NY, Anne Hinton b. 1774, Sarah > Hinton, > b.1777, Thomas Hinton, b. 1779. Interesting tidbit- William's brother > John had > a daughter, Caroline who married her first cousin, Thomas , son of > William > Smith Hinton. > If you haven't already checked on RootsWeb.com try ( I haven't been on > there > in forever so I don't even remember exactly how I got to the info) > looking > up in the Hinton lines a history by Roger Howland under the Howland, > Morrison > & Allied families. It may not be any of your kin but he has an > extensive > research on Hintons. > Wish I could have helped you more. Good luck! > > Vonna > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NCWAKE list administrator, send an email to > NCWAKE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NCWAKE mailing list, send an email to NCWAKE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NCWAKE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 165 > ************************************** >

06DEC07 There is a little Intel in--- *CHOWAN COUNTY, NC*--- [Formerly *ALBERMARLE DISTRICT*]-! A *COL.JOHN HINTON*-(b.Eng-ca-1670-1731) - and MARY (HARDY) _HINTON-[of the DR.THOMAS HINTON line], Family migrated from the "JAMESTOWNE COLONY, VA"--sometime (before-1715)????????? Known sons--(all born-before/circa-1715???- )-*COL.JOHN [JR]*--JAMES--HARDY--and MALACHI-(b.NC-ca-1730)-m.-Sarah (WIMBERLY)!!! Our' Line- *COL.JOHN HINTON-[JR]*-(b.ca-1715-1785) - & GRIZZELA (KIMBROUGH)-HINTON!! Most of this Extended family migrated-(before-1760)-to: "JOCO/WAKE/RALIEGH", NC areas, with MONTGOMERY/ BROWN/ BRADFORD/ BRYAN/ HARDY/HARGROVE/LANE/ MOORE/ SMITH/ ROBERTSON, amongst others!!! Looking for ANY Intel on their Migration to "GEORGIA"-(post REV.WAR-1800)!!! crumbs & tidbits are welcome!! MERRY CHRISTMAS & GOD BLESS SEMPER FI BA-In North GA!! -----Original Message----- From: hinton-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hinton-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Obxtxn@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:57 PM To: hinton@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HINTON] HINTON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 53 Lillian All my records are Hintons in the Pasquotank (Elizabeth City) and Gates County area of NC. The first one in my records is William Hinton b.1750 in Pasquotank Co., NC, d. Dec 7 1783 in New York City. He married a Phoebe Smith in Apr 1772 in NY. William apparently had a brother named John. Their children were William Smith Hinton b. 1772 in NY, Anne Hinton b. 1774, Sarah Hinton, b.1777, Thomas Hinton, b. 1779. Interesting tidbit- William's brother John had a daughter, Caroline who married her first cousin, Thomas , son of William Smith Hinton. If you haven't already checked on RootsWeb.com try ( I haven't been on there in forever so I don't even remember exactly how I got to the info) looking up in the Hinton lines a history by Roger Howland under the Howland, Morrison & Allied families. It may not be any of your kin but he has an extensive research on Hintons. Wish I could have helped you more. Good luck! Vonna

Hi, I am searching for a Utley/Mangum/Hitchcock connection in NC or TN. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Jo Ann Crafton

Since I have an unidentified Utley in one of my lines, I am seeking parents of Elizabeth Utley who married Thomas Samuel Blake in Cumberland Co, NC June 07, 1813. Any information would be appreciated. I am hoping someone may have an Elizabeth Utley in their family lines.. Any information or suggestions will be appreciated. Thomas Samuel Blake's first wife was Mary "Polly" Clements and they were married in Wake Co. on May 20, 1797. Thanks. Ruth J. Hary

Thanks for all the info. You have really done your work well. There were Freeman's in Granville Co. and that is where I believe Catherine Freeman was born. I've been thinking about getting a DNA profile done. Where do you think is the best place to get it done and what test? L.Brooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. Kirkland" <kwec@simpledsl.com> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Catherine Freeman > The 7th line from the bottom should read "DNA does NOT match any other > Freeman..." > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "W. Kirkland" <kwec@simpledsl.com> > To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:26 AM > Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Catherine Freeman > > > >I cannot place this Catherine Freeman as being kin. In fact, I have tried, > > but cannot connect the family of John of Wake with the Franklin Co. > > Freemans. I used to think the Edward that died in Franklin in 1811 (and > > had > > children in Wake Co.) was possibly a brother of John, (d. 1800) as in 1785 > > one Edward Freeman was a witness with John Freeman in a Wake Co. McElroy > > deed. > > > > Micajah McElroy was a child of the sister of Martha Linn Freeman (John's > > wife) and the sister's 1st. husband Archibald McElroy, Jr. After > > Archibald > > died, Sarah Lin McElroy (Martha's sister) m 2nd. Jacob Heartsfield and > > they > > lived in Franklin Co. The DNA we have from a male cousin of mine does > > match > > any other Freeman DNA that has been tested and so far my paper trail > > cannot > > exactly pinpoint John ever being in Franklin, even though there were 2 > > early Johns there. Between 1801 & 1807-8, my Freeman family seem to > > leave > > Wake and went to Pendleton Dist., SC. Four of the youngest, unmarried > > daughters are unaccounted for, though, and could have married & stayed in > > NC. John & Martha had 12 children. Thanks for the info. > > > > Wilma K. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Donna Brooks" <dbrooks52@cfl.rr.com> > > To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:54 AM > > Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] WEATHERS family & King, Redding > > > > > >>I have a Catherine Freeman in my family tree. She was married to Shemuel > >> Kearney. They lived in Franklin Co. late 1700's & early 1800's. Her > >> daughter > >> Sarah married my GGGreat Grandfather Edward S. Brooks. He is listed in > >> 1830 > >> Wake Co. census. Catherine and Shemuel also had other children, daughter > >> Leah, son Joseph, son Crawford, and more. > >> L. Brooks > >> >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1165 - Release Date: 12/2/2007 8:34 PM > >

I used to think my Freemans belonged to the Granville group until the DNA was done. FamilyTree was the company doing the test. Don't forget you have to have a male carrying the surname of Freeman that is blood kin to you to do the test. There is a test for females but it doesn't work like the male test. Right now we are talking about the Y chromosome test for males only. Don't stop with the 1st. 12 markers, as that is way back in the cave days before folks started taking names. Do at least the 25 or 37 marker test - the more the better and will show closer kinship. The best buy is the 67 (think it is - it is somewhere in the 60s). My maternal grandmother was a Freeman, so it wasn't hard for me to find a male Freeman cousin. I see your Freeman line starts in the 1700s, so this may create a problem for you. Good luck. Wilma K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Brooks" <dbrooks52@cfl.rr.com> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Catherine Freeman > Thanks for all the info. You have really done your work well. There were > Freeman's in Granville Co. and that is where I believe Catherine Freeman > was > born. > I've been thinking about getting a DNA profile done. Where do you think > is > the best place to get it done and what test? > L.Brooks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "W. Kirkland" <kwec@simpledsl.com> > To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:34 AM > Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Catherine Freeman > > >> The 7th line from the bottom should read "DNA does NOT match any other >> Freeman..." >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "W. Kirkland" <kwec@simpledsl.com> >> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:26 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Catherine Freeman >> >> >> >I cannot place this Catherine Freeman as being kin. In fact, I have > tried, >> > but cannot connect the family of John of Wake with the Franklin Co. >> > Freemans. I used to think the Edward that died in Franklin in 1811 >> > (and >> > had >> > children in Wake Co.) was possibly a brother of John, (d. 1800) as in > 1785 >> > one Edward Freeman was a witness with John Freeman in a Wake Co. >> > McElroy >> > deed. >> > >> > Micajah McElroy was a child of the sister of Martha Linn Freeman >> > (John's >> > wife) and the sister's 1st. husband Archibald McElroy, Jr. After >> > Archibald >> > died, Sarah Lin McElroy (Martha's sister) m 2nd. Jacob Heartsfield and >> > they >> > lived in Franklin Co. The DNA we have from a male cousin of mine does >> > match >> > any other Freeman DNA that has been tested and so far my paper trail >> > cannot >> > exactly pinpoint John ever being in Franklin, even though there were 2 >> > early Johns there. Between 1801 & 1807-8, my Freeman family seem to >> > leave >> > Wake and went to Pendleton Dist., SC. Four of the youngest, unmarried >> > daughters are unaccounted for, though, and could have married & stayed > in >> > NC. John & Martha had 12 children. Thanks for the info. >> > >> > Wilma K. >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Donna Brooks" <dbrooks52@cfl.rr.com> >> > To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:54 AM >> > Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] WEATHERS family & King, Redding >> > >> > >> >>I have a Catherine Freeman in my family tree. She was married to >> >>Shemuel >> >> Kearney. They lived in Franklin Co. late 1700's & early 1800's. Her >> >> daughter >> >> Sarah married my GGGreat Grandfather Edward S. Brooks. He is listed in >> >> 1830 >> >> Wake Co. census. Catherine and Shemuel also had other children, > daughter >> >> Leah, son Joseph, son Crawford, and more. >> >> L. Brooks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1165 - Release Date: > 12/2/2007 8:34 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have a Catherine Freeman in my family tree. She was married to Shemuel Kearney. They lived in Franklin Co. late 1700's & early 1800's. Her daughter Sarah married my GGGreat Grandfather Edward S. Brooks. He is listed in 1830 Wake Co. census. Catherine and Shemuel also had other children, daughter Leah, son Joseph, son Crawford, and more. L. Brooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. Kirkland" <kwec@simpledsl.com> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] WEATHERS family & King, Redding > Sam, > > This is very interesting. If Needham Freeman was named after the Needham > family, this would have happened about 1765 when Needham was born in the > area of what is now Wake Co. His mother was Martha Lin/Lynn, d/o James who > had already come to the same area. I will check out these counties and see > what I can come up with. At least this is something new to work with. > Thanks. > > Wilma K. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Redding" <sredding@adi.org> > To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] WEATHERS family & King, Redding > > > > The Needham family was intermarried with Reddings in Pasquotank County, > > and they moved then to Randolph County. This would be Joseph Redding > > and his cousin Robert Redding (often spelled Reding), both of whom > > married Needham women. Joseph Redding died in Randolph County in 1815. > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > .. Son Needham named a son > > Redding/Redden/Reddin Freeman. I can find no marriage between the > > families > > and figure Needham must have just thought a lot of the Redding family to > > > > give a son that name. Any ideas? John also had a Francis Freeman & a > > Clary > > Freeman, which are also King names. > > > > Wilma K. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: 12/1/2007 12:05 PM > >

I also have an Alsey Gregory (Male) in my family tree. He was in Lenoir Co. early 1800's. L.Brooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Hamilton" <nbhamil@msn.com> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] The name Alcey > > In our family, Alcey/Alsey is a 100% male name. It started with Alcey Hambleton/Hamilton on the 1820 tax roll in Wake county and has continued through children and grandchildren to this day. Since I have not discovered whose Alcey's parents are, I do not know it's origins in this family.... I don't think it was a nickname as Alsey was used on deeds, census, etc in this family.Nancy Hamilton5 Bannock TrailRed Lodge, MT 59068406-446-1320nbhamil@msn.com> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:45:08 -0600> From: sueashby@earthlink.net> To: ncwake@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] The name Alcey> > Hi all,> Alcey, Alcy, Alsey, is usually a female name. I have it quite often in > my family. Never have been able to truly, verify where it comes from and > if it is a nickname.> Some have said it is a version of Alice. But, of course, in this case it > wouldn't be.> I would think that the male version would be a nickname or shortening > of 'Alcendor' or Allison?. There is a Dutch name 'Altje' ! > that is > pronounced similarly to Alcey and I've wondered if that was it. "Altje" > is the feminine.> If anyone ever pins this down, please post it, I would love to know..> Sue> > Sharon Gable wrote:> > >I don't think it's a nickname, I think it's a given name. I've seen it> >in other counties.> >> >"Nicknames Past and Present" by Christine Rose lists the nickname for> >Alexander as Al, Alex, Eleck, Sandy and Zandy. Unfortunately her 4th> >edition (the one I have) does not have a cross index of nicknames.> >> >Sharon Gable> >Descendant of William Henry Jones of Wake County> >> >-----Original Message-----> >From: ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com]> >On Behalf Of W. Kirkland> >Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:10 AM> >To: ncwake@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [NCWAKE] The name Alcey> >> >Could someone tell me if the name Alcey (& various spellings) is a real> >name, or is it a nickname, maybe for Alexander? I know Sandy is one> >nickname for Alexander,! > but there are probably others. One Alcey> >Freeman, younger brother t > o my ancestor Needham Freeman of Wake, was in> >Wake Co. until he left for SC shortly after the early 1800s. Thanks. > >> >Wilma K.> > > >-------------------------------> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> >NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> >quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> > > >-------------------------------> >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> > > >> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: 12/1/2007 12:05 PM > >

The 7th line from the bottom should read "DNA does NOT match any other Freeman..." ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. Kirkland" <kwec@simpledsl.com> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] Catherine Freeman >I cannot place this Catherine Freeman as being kin. In fact, I have tried, > but cannot connect the family of John of Wake with the Franklin Co. > Freemans. I used to think the Edward that died in Franklin in 1811 (and > had > children in Wake Co.) was possibly a brother of John, (d. 1800) as in 1785 > one Edward Freeman was a witness with John Freeman in a Wake Co. McElroy > deed. > > Micajah McElroy was a child of the sister of Martha Linn Freeman (John's > wife) and the sister's 1st. husband Archibald McElroy, Jr. After > Archibald > died, Sarah Lin McElroy (Martha's sister) m 2nd. Jacob Heartsfield and > they > lived in Franklin Co. The DNA we have from a male cousin of mine does > match > any other Freeman DNA that has been tested and so far my paper trail > cannot > exactly pinpoint John ever being in Franklin, even though there were 2 > early Johns there. Between 1801 & 1807-8, my Freeman family seem to > leave > Wake and went to Pendleton Dist., SC. Four of the youngest, unmarried > daughters are unaccounted for, though, and could have married & stayed in > NC. John & Martha had 12 children. Thanks for the info. > > Wilma K. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Brooks" <dbrooks52@cfl.rr.com> > To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:54 AM > Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] WEATHERS family & King, Redding > > >>I have a Catherine Freeman in my family tree. She was married to Shemuel >> Kearney. They lived in Franklin Co. late 1700's & early 1800's. Her >> daughter >> Sarah married my GGGreat Grandfather Edward S. Brooks. He is listed in >> 1830 >> Wake Co. census. Catherine and Shemuel also had other children, daughter >> Leah, son Joseph, son Crawford, and more. >> L. Brooks >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

I cannot place this Catherine Freeman as being kin. In fact, I have tried, but cannot connect the family of John of Wake with the Franklin Co. Freemans. I used to think the Edward that died in Franklin in 1811 (and had children in Wake Co.) was possibly a brother of John, (d. 1800) as in 1785 one Edward Freeman was a witness with John Freeman in a Wake Co. McElroy deed. Micajah McElroy was a child of the sister of Martha Linn Freeman (John's wife) and the sister's 1st. husband Archibald McElroy, Jr. After Archibald died, Sarah Lin McElroy (Martha's sister) m 2nd. Jacob Heartsfield and they lived in Franklin Co. The DNA we have from a male cousin of mine does match any other Freeman DNA that has been tested and so far my paper trail cannot exactly pinpoint John ever being in Franklin, even though there were 2 early Johns there. Between 1801 & 1807-8, my Freeman family seem to leave Wake and went to Pendleton Dist., SC. Four of the youngest, unmarried daughters are unaccounted for, though, and could have married & stayed in NC. John & Martha had 12 children. Thanks for the info. Wilma K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Brooks" <dbrooks52@cfl.rr.com> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] WEATHERS family & King, Redding >I have a Catherine Freeman in my family tree. She was married to Shemuel > Kearney. They lived in Franklin Co. late 1700's & early 1800's. Her > daughter > Sarah married my GGGreat Grandfather Edward S. Brooks. He is listed in > 1830 > Wake Co. census. Catherine and Shemuel also had other children, daughter > Leah, son Joseph, son Crawford, and more. > L. Brooks > >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have in my files a Rufus Osborn Weathers (son of William and Priscilla Parker Weathers) born about 1815 and married 18 Apr. 1841 in Granville County, NC to Mary Jane Bullock, dau. of James and Melinda Bledsoe Bullock (Melinda Bledsoe is from Wake County)----- Are any of these in your file---would like more information on Rufus Osborn Weathers and wife Mary Jane Bullock. Barbara B. Elliott ----- Original Message ----- From: ncwake-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ncwake-request@rootsweb.com> To: ncwake@rootsweb.com<mailto:ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 3:00 AM Subject: NCWAKE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 160 Today's Topics: 1. Re: WEATHERS family (Phyllis Mitchell Maher) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 19:16:53 -0600 From: "Phyllis Mitchell Maher" <pmitchell4328@sbcglobal.net<mailto:pmitchell4328@sbcglobal.net>> Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] WEATHERS family To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com<mailto:ncwake@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <001001c83481$069c6f00$0202a8c0@PhyllisLaptop<mailto:001001c83481$069c6f00$0202a8c0@PhyllisLaptop>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Would a Thomas Winston and Gilly Weathers from Wake Co area be anywhere in your file?? Phyllis pmitchell4328@sbcglobal.net<mailto:pmitchell4328@sbcglobal.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rootsnva@aol.com<mailto:Rootsnva@aol.com>> To: <NCWAKE@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCWAKE@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: [NCWAKE] WEATHERS family > Lucinda WEATHERS was my great-grandmother. She was born about 1834 in > Wake > Co. Her parents were William WEATHERS and Elizabeth Ann KING. William > was > born in Wake Co in 1801 and died in Wake Co in or about 1860. My > information on his parents is uncertain. I believed at one time his > father was James > WEATHERS, but I have found no corroboration. I also was told that > William's > grandfather was another William WEATHERS, born 26 March 1750 in Surry Co, > Virginia, who married Elizabeth (last name unknown) in Elizabeth City Co, > now the > city of Hampton, about 1770. William died in Wake Co, NC, in 1784. I > have > reliable information on this William's parents and grandparents. > > Any information that tends to clarify this family and fill in my gaps > would > be greatly appreciated, and I'll happily share the information I have. > > Tom Aiken > Virginia Beach > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001<http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001>) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the NCWAKE list administrator, send an email to NCWAKE-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCWAKE-admin@rootsweb.com>. To post a message to the NCWAKE mailing list, send an email to NCWAKE@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCWAKE@rootsweb.com>. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of NCWAKE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 160 **************************************

Sam, This is very interesting. If Needham Freeman was named after the Needham family, this would have happened about 1765 when Needham was born in the area of what is now Wake Co. His mother was Martha Lin/Lynn, d/o James who had already come to the same area. I will check out these counties and see what I can come up with. At least this is something new to work with. Thanks. Wilma K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Redding" <sredding@adi.org> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] WEATHERS family & King, Redding > The Needham family was intermarried with Reddings in Pasquotank County, > and they moved then to Randolph County. This would be Joseph Redding > and his cousin Robert Redding (often spelled Reding), both of whom > married Needham women. Joseph Redding died in Randolph County in 1815. > > -----Original Message----- >> > .. Son Needham named a son > Redding/Redden/Reddin Freeman. I can find no marriage between the > families > and figure Needham must have just thought a lot of the Redding family to > > give a son that name. Any ideas? John also had a Francis Freeman & a > Clary > Freeman, which are also King names. > > Wilma K. > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks, everyone, for telling me about your Alceys. I guess I will never know where the name came from, as he seems to be the only one in the family named that. There are several Alexanders and I thought perhaps they might be named after him. I do know NC has a lot of Alceys, as I seem to run into them with all my names, but they usually are witnesses or land bounders. Thanks again. Wilma K. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RockyIII@aol.com> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] The name Alcey > > Alsey was my great-grandfather's real name. He was Alsey Taylor > Strickland, > 1860-1933, Nash County, NC. I've never known who he was named for, if > anybody in particular, as I don't know of any Alseys or Taylors in his > background. > There were several men named Alsey in the area though, and a number of > Taylors (surname) too. > > Rocky Strickland > > > > In a message dated 12/2/2007 11:11:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > kwec@simpledsl.com writes: > > Could someone tell me if the name Alcey (& various spellings) is a real > name, or is it a nickname, maybe for Alexander? I know Sandy is one > nickname for > Alexander, but there are probably others. One Alcey Freeman, younger > brother to my ancestor Needham Freeman of Wake, was in Wake Co. until he > left for > SC shortly after the early 1800s. Thanks. > > Wilma K. > > > > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

I am a member of DOGS in Durham and I saw your message to Sam about the family of FREEMANS The FREEMANS are a family that I have not been able to locate. A.B. and B.B.( Burwell or Burl was my great Grandfather on my Mothers side. I am Mary Louie Gunter Williams I live at 4707 Whitfield Road Durham,NC 27707 phone 919-489-2022 would love to find out if we share ancestors. E-mail Maryowl@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncwake-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of W. Kirkland Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:00 PM To: ncwake@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCWAKE] WEATHERS family & King, Redding Sam, If you have seen the estate sale in Wake Co. of John King in 1801 which Needham, John & Jeptha Freeman attended, the Freemans are sons of my ancestor John Freeman, d. 1800 Wake Co.. Son Needham named a son Redding/Redden/Reddin Freeman. I can find no marriage between the families and figure Needham must have just thought a lot of the Redding family to give a son that name. Any ideas? John also had a Francis Freeman & a Clary Freeman, which are also King names. Wilma K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Redding" <sredding@adi.org> To: <ncwake@rootsweb.com> >> Wake County, North Carolina > > > > On April 17, 1787, the estate of Drury King was sold in Wake County, > and Francis Redding was named the administrator. Accounts were settled > over the next 10 years, and purchases were made by Francis Redding, > Francis Redding, Jr., James Redding, Henry Temple, Francis King, and > Wright Hilliard. > > > > April 22, 1787: Francis Redding was the bondsman for the marriage of > Wrightman Hillard/Hilliard to Elizabeth Brown a few days after the > estate sale of Drury King. > > > ________________________________ > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCWAKE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message