Gerald, I don't really have much more information other than what I provided, I have a Margaret A. GRIFFIN dau. of John GRIFFIN b. 1810 NC and Nepsy Brigman b. 1812 NC. On the 1850 Union Co. NC census the Margaret A. b. c. 1843 is living in dwelling 676 with parents, brothers William S. b. 28 Jun 1831 Union Co. NC, John b. 1837, Lee b. 1839, James Pleasant b. 1841, and sisters Sarah "Sally" GRIFFIN MATTOX b. 14 Nov 1833 Union Co. NC, Molsy E. b. 1845, Ella M. b. 1847, Mary I. b. 1849 and Elizabeth L. b. 1853. On the 1860 Union Co. census Margaret Adeline is listed as a spinstress, her brothers are no longer living at home, the sisters with the exception of Sarah are still at home living in dwelling 63 Lane's Creek. On the 1870 Union Co. census the family is living in Monroe dwelling 214, Margaret is not living with the family only John, Nepsy, Ella, and Mary. Her brother James Pleasant GRIFFIN can be found in dwelling 212 with his family - wife Elizabeth (VINCENT/VINSON/STACKS ??). I know that William S. and Sarah "Sally" Griffin MATTOX moved to Tishomingo Co. MS and can be found there on the 1860 census. As well as William S. GRIFFIN's brother in law Wilson PARKER. James Pleasant GRIFFIN moved his family to Weakley Co. TN via MS along with a STACKS family. I have been trying to find what happened to the rest of this GRIFFIN family but can't seem to find any Union Co. connections. Jim Griffin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 11:09 PM Subject: Re: Maggie Griffin >Jim: > >Give me some details about Elizabeth. > >Gerald > > >"He only deserves to be remembered >by posterity, who treasures up and >preserves the history of his Ancestry" > >Edmund Burke > >Visit the story of our search for the North Carolina Helms' ancestors: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~helmsnc >Or the Fredericksburg Civil War Cemetery list at: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~helmsnc/FredCWCEM > >Be proud of your heritage > > >Military Records: The archives contains a number of important records >relating to military affairs. It should be emphasized however, that most >extant military records for all wars from the Revolution to 1900 are >preserved in the National Archives, Washington, DC 20408. > >Vital Statistics: Birth/Death records wer not kept in NC before October 1913. >For all birth and death certificates after 1945, write Vital Records Section >P.O. Box 2953, Raleigh, NC 27626-0537 giving full name of individual county >of birth/death enclosing $10.00 for each copy. >For birth certificates give full name of parents including mother's maiden >name. Must be given for death certificates from 1913 thru 1945. >Good Luck - let me know the next ancestor's name; if you find it. > >Team: save a copy of these instructions so that you can copy and paste when >needed. >Write: > >The North Carolina State Archives enclosing $8.00 search and handling fee. > >Department of Cultural resources >Division Of Archives and History >Archives and records section >Raleigh, NC 27601-2807 > >

Hi Dawn, John and Gerald, It looks like you three are searching the same family. John and I corresponded about Maggie Griffin married to Harmon D. King back in May 1999. John has Maggie's birth date as 1845 and her death date as 1930. Gerald's data from the 1870 census shows a Margaret as 22 which would make her birth date 1848. I have a Margaret A. GRIFFIN born c. 1843 in Union Co. NC, the daughter of John GRIFFIN and Nepsy Brigman who can be found living on the 1850 Union Co. NC census page 46 dwelling 676 at that time Sep 1850 she was 7 years old. John thought my Margaret was Maggie, he has pictures of her from a 1929 King family reunion. She is buried at Corinth Baptist Church in Union Co. (where the picture was taken). I'm unfamiliar with the Church or Union Co. at the time of the census my GRIFFIN family was living in the Lane's Creek area. Is that near Corinth Baptist Church? I guess my answer Dawn is I don't know, but I sure hope to find my Elizabeth someday. Jim Griffin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, March 26, 2000 8:53 PM Subject: Maggie Griffin >Hello Jim: > Are you related to the Maggie/Margaret Griffin who married Rev. Harmon >David King.....???? James G. King was my gggrandfather. I was not aware of >HD's second marriage until this last year. So, I have just started >researching the rest of the family... > >Dawn Hines in perfect weather AZ >

Just found this Anson Co, NC item for sale on ebay. There's only about 6 hours left in the auction. Check it out: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=285501785 "This Confederate States of America CSA identification tag is dated 1862. It belonged to PVT S. DUNN, CO D, 24 NC. It also says ANSON CO, CSA 1862. This authentic tag is rare indeed and will make a nice addition for those of you who collect rare and unusual items. Just holding this tag gives you a strange sense of history... If only it could talk...." If you're not familiar with ebay, just use the helpful buttons at the top of the auction page for instructions. I'm sending this to the Stanly Co list, the Union Co list and the Anson Co list as well because I think the Dunn's were in all three counties and probably more. Good luck! Julie

Mr. Helms, Do you know who the parents were of Maggie GRIFFIN King? Jim GRIFFIN -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 6:08 PM Subject: [NCUNION] Rev. Harmon D. King >Descendants of Rev. Harmon D. King. > >Descendants of Harmon D. King > > 1 Harmon D. King 1815 - 1905 >.. +Mary V. D.? Starnes 1814 - 1865 >........ 2 David A. King >............ +Mollie M. Dulin 1858 - >........ 2 Elizabeth King 1837 - >........ 2 James G. King 1838 - 1904 >............ +Elizabeth Jane (Aley) Sikes 1844 - 1925 >................... 3 John H. King 1865 - >....................... +Ida E. Harkey 1866 - >................... 3 Benjamin King 1866 - >................... 3 James King 1868 - >................... 3 Alisa King 1869 - >........ 2 Alsey Ann King 1840 - 1917 >............ +William Madison Helms 1836 - 1918 >................... 3 Mary J.(ane) Helms 1859 - >................... 3 Martha Helms 1873 - >........ 2 Elizabeth Arabella (Eliza) King 1843 - >............ +Thomas H. Starnes 1837 - 1909 >................... 3 Sarah (Sallie) Starnes 1860 - 1943 >................... 3 General Johnson Starnes 1862 - 1937 >................... 3 Mary Caroline (Mollie) Starnes 1865 - 1957 >....................... +John Hutchinson Melton 1861 - 1947 >............................. 4 Hurley Melton 1884 - 1964 >............................. 4 Bessie Melton 1886 - >............................. 4 Ervin Melton 1891 - >............................. 4 Rod Melton 1892 - 1964 >................... 3 William Benson Starnes 1867 - 1950 >....................... +Laura Ann Unk 1861 - 1944 >................... *2nd Wife of William Benson Starnes: >....................... +Mary Jane (Mollie) Threatt 1867 - 1917 >................... 3 Judge Washington Starnes 1869 - 1948 >....................... +Sarah Elizabeth (Sallie) Crow 1874 - 1909 >............................. 4 Carrie Crow Starnes >................................. +Theron Hoil Simpson >........................................ 5 Mary Alice Simpson >............................................ +John Thomas Wilson >............................. 4 Eula Mae Starnes >................................. +Roy Simpson >........................................ 5 Edwin Simpson >............................................ +Mary Louise Thompson >........................................ 5 Allison Simpson >............................................ +Elizabeth (Liz) Flynn >........................................ 5 Lena Simpson >............................................ +Johnny Robinson >............................. 4 Sarah Elizabeth (Sallie) Starnes 1896 >- 1929 >............................. 4 Ola Mae Starnes 1902 - 1932 >................... 3 Della Josephine Starnes 1870 - 1904 >................... 3 Harriett Lucindy Starnes 1872 - 1955 >................... 3 Daniel Edward Starnes 1874 - 1947 >........ 2 Harmon B. King 1844 - >............ +Sarah Louisa Secrest 1850 - >................... 3 James L. King 1867 - >................... 3 Lawrence B. King 1869 - >....................... +Sarah E. Hartis 1874 - >................... 3 J. L. King 1871 - >....................... +M. E. Harkness 1875 - >................... 3 Cora King 1872 - >....................... +J. W. Conder 1871 - >................... *2nd Husband of Cora King: >....................... +J. W. Killough 1858 - >........ 2 Margaret C. King 1847 - >........ 2 William D. King 1849 - 1859 >........ 2 Judge W. King 1851 - >............ +Mary P. Crowell >........ 2 S. J. King 1853 - 1859 >........ 2 Gatsey King 1856 - >............ +William Ellis Helms 1856 - >........ 2 J. S. King 1859 - >............ +M. A. Rea 1860 - >........ 2 Stough King 1860 - >........ 2 Frances R. L. King 1866 - >............ +John T. McCorkle 1867 - > *2nd Wife of Harmon D. King: >.. +Maggie M. Griffin >........ 2 Martha (Mattie) King 1868 - >............ +James M. Fowler 1866 - > > > >"He only deserves to be remembered >by posterity, who treasures up and >preserves the history of his Ancestry" > >Edmund Burke > >Visit the story of our search for the North Carolina Helms' ancestors: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~helmsnc >Or the Fredericksburg Civil War Cemetery list at: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~helmsnc/FredCWCEM > >Be proud of your heritage > > >Military Records: The archives contains a number of important records >relating to military affairs. It should be emphasized however, that most >extant military records for all wars from the Revolution to 1900 are >preserved in the National Archives, Washington, DC 20408. > >Vital Statistics: Birth/Death records wer not kept in NC before October 1913. >For all birth and death certificates after 1945, write Vital Records Section >P.O. Box 2953, Raleigh, NC 27626-0537 giving full name of individual county >of birth/death enclosing $10.00 for each copy. >For birth certificates give full name of parents including mother's maiden >name. Must be given for death certificates from 1913 thru 1945. >Good Luck - let me know the next ancestor's name; if you find it. > >Team: save a copy of these instructions so that you can copy and paste when >needed. >Write: > >The North Carolina State Archives enclosing $8.00 search and handling fee. > >Department of Cultural resources >Division Of Archives and History >Archives and records section >Raleigh, NC 27601-2807 > >

Good Day everyone. I'm hoping someone can help me tap into my STRAWN roots. My grandmothers maiden name was Ruby Flora STRAWN (b.1907). She married Walter S. TURNER in Stanly County N.C. Her father was Marshall STRAWN (b.1863) who was married to Betty Rebecca HARRELL. I believe they were both from Union County, N.C. Marshall STRAWN was also married to Francis HASTY. The parents of Marshall were Lewis STRAWN (1830-1905) and Jane TREADWAY (1836-1900). This is where my information ends. Does anyone out there have any information on these folks. If you could help me, I would appreciate it very much. I can be reached at: [email protected] Thanks much, Michael Turner

Hi List, Is anyone on the list researching the Collins surname from Union Co? If anyone on the list has a copy of the 1850 Union county census I would appreciate a lookup for: James Collins b. abt 1806 in Union Co. he married Rebecca Francis McBride. By 1860 they had moved to Pike Co, Al. Thank you, Maggie

--part1_a5.39387e6.260bf541_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help from anyone. --part1_a5.39387e6.260bf541_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: [email protected] From: [email protected] Full-name: Hagans99 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:39:06 EST Subject: Trying to contact an Army friend of my father's To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 67 I am trying to get in touch with a Gerald Helms that was stationed in Weisbaden, Germany in the 563rd Ordinance sometime around the years of 1972-1975. My dad was stationed with him and would like to get in touch with him. Thanks. --part1_a5.39387e6.260bf541_boundary--

Thank you for the added names. I am very excited about the additions. Dawn Hines in cool but pretty AZ today....

Descendants of Rev. Harmon D. King. Descendants of Harmon D. King 1 Harmon D. King 1815 - 1905 .. +Mary V. D.? Starnes 1814 - 1865 ........ 2 David A. King ............ +Mollie M. Dulin 1858 - ........ 2 Elizabeth King 1837 - ........ 2 James G. King 1838 - 1904 ............ +Elizabeth Jane (Aley) Sikes 1844 - 1925 ................... 3 John H. King 1865 - ....................... +Ida E. Harkey 1866 - ................... 3 Benjamin King 1866 - ................... 3 James King 1868 - ................... 3 Alisa King 1869 - ........ 2 Alsey Ann King 1840 - 1917 ............ +William Madison Helms 1836 - 1918 ................... 3 Mary J.(ane) Helms 1859 - ................... 3 Martha Helms 1873 - ........ 2 Elizabeth Arabella (Eliza) King 1843 - ............ +Thomas H. Starnes 1837 - 1909 ................... 3 Sarah (Sallie) Starnes 1860 - 1943 ................... 3 General Johnson Starnes 1862 - 1937 ................... 3 Mary Caroline (Mollie) Starnes 1865 - 1957 ....................... +John Hutchinson Melton 1861 - 1947 ............................. 4 Hurley Melton 1884 - 1964 ............................. 4 Bessie Melton 1886 - ............................. 4 Ervin Melton 1891 - ............................. 4 Rod Melton 1892 - 1964 ................... 3 William Benson Starnes 1867 - 1950 ....................... +Laura Ann Unk 1861 - 1944 ................... *2nd Wife of William Benson Starnes: ....................... +Mary Jane (Mollie) Threatt 1867 - 1917 ................... 3 Judge Washington Starnes 1869 - 1948 ....................... +Sarah Elizabeth (Sallie) Crow 1874 - 1909 ............................. 4 Carrie Crow Starnes ................................. +Theron Hoil Simpson ........................................ 5 Mary Alice Simpson ............................................ +John Thomas Wilson ............................. 4 Eula Mae Starnes ................................. +Roy Simpson ........................................ 5 Edwin Simpson ............................................ +Mary Louise Thompson ........................................ 5 Allison Simpson ............................................ +Elizabeth (Liz) Flynn ........................................ 5 Lena Simpson ............................................ +Johnny Robinson ............................. 4 Sarah Elizabeth (Sallie) Starnes 1896 - 1929 ............................. 4 Ola Mae Starnes 1902 - 1932 ................... 3 Della Josephine Starnes 1870 - 1904 ................... 3 Harriett Lucindy Starnes 1872 - 1955 ................... 3 Daniel Edward Starnes 1874 - 1947 ........ 2 Harmon B. King 1844 - ............ +Sarah Louisa Secrest 1850 - ................... 3 James L. King 1867 - ................... 3 Lawrence B. King 1869 - ....................... +Sarah E. Hartis 1874 - ................... 3 J. L. King 1871 - ....................... +M. E. Harkness 1875 - ................... 3 Cora King 1872 - ....................... +J. W. Conder 1871 - ................... *2nd Husband of Cora King: ....................... +J. W. Killough 1858 - ........ 2 Margaret C. King 1847 - ........ 2 William D. King 1849 - 1859 ........ 2 Judge W. King 1851 - ............ +Mary P. Crowell ........ 2 S. J. King 1853 - 1859 ........ 2 Gatsey King 1856 - ............ +William Ellis Helms 1856 - ........ 2 J. S. King 1859 - ............ +M. A. Rea 1860 - ........ 2 Stough King 1860 - ........ 2 Frances R. L. King 1866 - ............ +John T. McCorkle 1867 - *2nd Wife of Harmon D. King: .. +Maggie M. Griffin ........ 2 Martha (Mattie) King 1868 - ............ +James M. Fowler 1866 - "He only deserves to be remembered by posterity, who treasures up and preserves the history of his Ancestry" Edmund Burke Visit the story of our search for the North Carolina Helms' ancestors: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~helmsnc Or the Fredericksburg Civil War Cemetery list at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~helmsnc/FredCWCEM Be proud of your heritage Military Records: The archives contains a number of important records relating to military affairs. It should be emphasized however, that most extant military records for all wars from the Revolution to 1900 are preserved in the National Archives, Washington, DC 20408. Vital Statistics: Birth/Death records wer not kept in NC before October 1913. For all birth and death certificates after 1945, write Vital Records Section P.O. Box 2953, Raleigh, NC 27626-0537 giving full name of individual county of birth/death enclosing $10.00 for each copy. For birth certificates give full name of parents including mother's maiden name. Must be given for death certificates from 1913 thru 1945. Good Luck - let me know the next ancestor's name; if you find it. Team: save a copy of these instructions so that you can copy and paste when needed. Write: The North Carolina State Archives enclosing $8.00 search and handling fee. Department of Cultural resources Division Of Archives and History Archives and records section Raleigh, NC 27601-2807

Just guessing, but I'd say there may well be a Belk daughter who married into the King family, but I haven't seen the connection. The George W.Belk King name makes me suspect you might find a connection in the Thomas Milburn Belk family line, because they gave their families more than two given names....I don't have all the lines, but will check what I have...however, I have only one King not in that line...my Kings are in Ireland, and prob. in MD...very early. Doris Researching in NC/SC: BIBBY, BELK, LEGGETT, BEAM, HILL, MARR, JACKSON, COX, DUREN, ALLEN, WOOD, MEADOR, MOBLEY. Also: PEIRCE, STRICKLAND, REAGAN, LARRISON, GREENWOOD, JARVIS, GREEN, DAVIS, SCOTT, EMBRY,KRAMER, MATOUSEK, MOOTY, BATTAGLIA. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? Hi all: I have an interesting pattern vaguely beginning to unfold here... Seems like a bit of a Coinsidence or (?) as type of connection. Although I have James G. KING as an ancestor (Union Co., NC), with a Benjamin Franklin KING (aka Frank or B.F.) George W(?) Belk KING as his son (so far no way to know how or where the BELK connections comes in) -- Am assuming there is some sort of connection. BF in listed on the 1900 Cenus in Union Co., NC; in the Lake Co., FL 1910 Census as a Farm Foreman and then is back to Union Co., NC. by 1920. George W. was born in Union Co., served in the WW I and settled in Carbarrus Co., and died there. George had his father living with him the last four years of his life (according to an Obit) and buried in Union Co. Question: Is there a chance there was a BELK Farm in Lake Co., FL during that period? If there was, perhaps it would confirm (for me), the closeness of the connection of the KING, BELK and even the HELM line. Just trying to build a tighter case of proof and connection. Dawn Hines, J :

I have 21 March 1928, Charlotte NC Thanks a lot. Doris Researching in NC/SC: BIBBY, BELK, LEGGETT, BEAM, HILL, MARR, JACKSON, COX, DUREN, ALLEN, WOOD, MEADOR, MOBLEY. Also: PEIRCE, STRICKLAND, REAGAN, LARRISON, GREENWOOD, JARVIS, GREEN, DAVIS, SCOTT, EMBRY,KRAMER, MATOUSEK, MOOTY, BATTAGLIA. -----Original Message----- From: Burkholder [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? That the same Dr. Belk. I will send the article. Do you know what year he died? ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ Peirce" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 6:06 AM Subject: RE: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? > I'd very much like to have a copy of this. Please send to > [email protected] > This would have to be John Montgomery Belk who was a doctor, left his > practice and joined his brother Henry in the business. > Right? > Doris > > Researching in NC/SC: BIBBY, BELK, LEGGETT, BEAM, HILL, MARR, JACKSON, COX, > DUREN, ALLEN, WOOD, MEADOR, MOBLEY. > > Also: PEIRCE, STRICKLAND, REAGAN, LARRISON, GREENWOOD, JARVIS, GREEN, DAVIS, > SCOTT, EMBRY,KRAMER, MATOUSEK, MOOTY, BATTAGLIA. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Burkholder [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 10:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? > > > Doris > I have a copy of a newspaper article (no date...sorry)Monroe NC..Dr JM. > Belk's will....it mentions unmarried daughters, Mabel,Daisy,Henry (sic) and > Johnnie.It mentions stock and other of his holdings. Also brother, W. H. > Belk. No wife mentioned. If this is of interest to you let me know and I > will copy and e-mail to you direct. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debi McGee Cundiff" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 7:38 PM > Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? > > > > Doris, > > > > I don't have any Leggett ancestors that I am aware of. I research the > > Helms surname. > > > > If you have not seen the Will of Sampson Doster - 1852 from Union County > > it can be found at the following URL on RootsWeb: > > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/union/wills/sampso03.txt > > > > This will talks about the children of "my daughter Polly Helms" and goes > > on to name six children. It also does not name which Helms male Polly > > married, but it does list her as being deceased. > > > > Hope it helps, > > > > Debi McGee Cundiff > > > > Lake County, Florida > > Proud Sponsor of RootsWeb 2000 > > Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/ > > Genie Angel Volunteer at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~angels/ > > > > DJ Peirce wrote: > > > > > > I have a Polly BELK, dau of Capt Darling BELK & Hannah DOSTER, who > > > married a HELMS...I don't have the first name, but have the names of 6 > > > children. would they help you? Or could you put first names with > > > them? Can you add to the Legget family for me? > > > > > > Any help with the BELK or LEGGET family will be appreciated. > > > Doris > > > > > > Researching in NC/SC: BIBBY, BELK, LEGGETT, BEAM, HILL, MARR, JACKSON, > > > COX, DUREN, ALLEN, WOOD, MEADOR, MOBLEY. > > > > > > Also: PEIRCE, STRICKLAND, REAGAN, LARRISON, GREENWOOD, JARVIS, GREEN, > > > DAVIS, SCOTT, EMBRY,KRAMER, MATOUSEK, MOOTY, BATTAGLIA. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 8:09 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? > > > > > > No. > > > > > > I am working on the Helms family - just happened to see the name > > > Leggett. > > > > > > Gerald Helms > > > > > > >

That the same Dr. Belk. I will send the article. Do you know what year he died? ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ Peirce" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 6:06 AM Subject: RE: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? > I'd very much like to have a copy of this. Please send to > [email protected] > This would have to be John Montgomery Belk who was a doctor, left his > practice and joined his brother Henry in the business. > Right? > Doris > > Researching in NC/SC: BIBBY, BELK, LEGGETT, BEAM, HILL, MARR, JACKSON, COX, > DUREN, ALLEN, WOOD, MEADOR, MOBLEY. > > Also: PEIRCE, STRICKLAND, REAGAN, LARRISON, GREENWOOD, JARVIS, GREEN, DAVIS, > SCOTT, EMBRY,KRAMER, MATOUSEK, MOOTY, BATTAGLIA. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Burkholder [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 10:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? > > > Doris > I have a copy of a newspaper article (no date...sorry)Monroe NC..Dr JM. > Belk's will....it mentions unmarried daughters, Mabel,Daisy,Henry (sic) and > Johnnie.It mentions stock and other of his holdings. Also brother, W. H. > Belk. No wife mentioned. If this is of interest to you let me know and I > will copy and e-mail to you direct. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debi McGee Cundiff" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 7:38 PM > Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? > > > > Doris, > > > > I don't have any Leggett ancestors that I am aware of. I research the > > Helms surname. > > > > If you have not seen the Will of Sampson Doster - 1852 from Union County > > it can be found at the following URL on RootsWeb: > > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/union/wills/sampso03.txt > > > > This will talks about the children of "my daughter Polly Helms" and goes > > on to name six children. It also does not name which Helms male Polly > > married, but it does list her as being deceased. > > > > Hope it helps, > > > > Debi McGee Cundiff > > > > Lake County, Florida > > Proud Sponsor of RootsWeb 2000 > > Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/ > > Genie Angel Volunteer at > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~angels/ > > > > DJ Peirce wrote: > > > > > > I have a Polly BELK, dau of Capt Darling BELK & Hannah DOSTER, who > > > married a HELMS...I don't have the first name, but have the names of 6 > > > children. would they help you? Or could you put first names with > > > them? Can you add to the Legget family for me? > > > > > > Any help with the BELK or LEGGET family will be appreciated. > > > Doris > > > > > > Researching in NC/SC: BIBBY, BELK, LEGGETT, BEAM, HILL, MARR, JACKSON, > > > COX, DUREN, ALLEN, WOOD, MEADOR, MOBLEY. > > > > > > Also: PEIRCE, STRICKLAND, REAGAN, LARRISON, GREENWOOD, JARVIS, GREEN, > > > DAVIS, SCOTT, EMBRY,KRAMER, MATOUSEK, MOOTY, BATTAGLIA. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 8:09 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? > > > > > > No. > > > > > > I am working on the Helms family - just happened to see the name > > > Leggett. > > > > > > Gerald Helms > > > > > > >

I believe the book you are refering to is: "The Doster Genealogy" by Mrs. Ben Hill Doster (In memory of her husband--completed, edited and produced by Wadsworth Doster): copyright 1945 by Wadsworth Doster, 50 Vanderbilt Ave., New York, NY. Published by The William Byrd Press, Inc., Richmond, Virginia. You may be able to borrow a copy through the interlibrary loan. Jo Ann >There's a big thick book of Doster genealogy at >the Monroe NC library....I think it may be fairly recent. I really didn't >get to spend as much time there as I wanted to, but I suppose that's never >going to happen. We'll just have to go back to NC when we can spend more >time -- maybe start in Raleigh and work our way down?

Thank you, I have found that the Leggetts were so prolific that I'll have to work with several other family names in order to sort out and establish the correct relationships. I've only seen the abstract, and would like to see it in entirity. Doris Researching in NC/SC: BIBBY, BELK, LEGGETT, BEAM, HILL, MARR, JACKSON, COX, DUREN, ALLEN, WOOD, MEADOR, MOBLEY. Also: PEIRCE, STRICKLAND, REAGAN, LARRISON, GREENWOOD, JARVIS, GREEN, DAVIS, SCOTT, EMBRY,KRAMER, MATOUSEK, MOOTY, BATTAGLIA. -----Original Message----- From: Debi McGee Cundiff [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 10:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? Doris, I don't have any Leggett ancestors that I am aware of. I research the Helms surname. If you have not seen the Will of Sampson Doster - 1852 from Union County it can be found at the following URL on RootsWeb: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/union/wills/sampso03.txt This will talks about the children of "my daughter Polly Helms" and goes on to name six children. It also does not name which Helms male Polly married, but it does list her as being deceased. Hope it helps, Debi McGee Cundiff Lake County, Florida Proud Sponsor of RootsWeb 2000 Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/ Genie Angel Volunteer at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~angels/ DJ Peirce wrote: > > I have a Polly BELK, dau of Capt Darling BELK & Hannah DOSTER, who > married a HELMS...I don't have the first name, but have the names of 6 > children. would they help you? Or could you put first names with > them? Can you add to the Legget family for me? > > Any help with the BELK or LEGGET family will be appreciated. > Doris > > Researching in NC/SC: BIBBY, BELK, LEGGETT, BEAM, HILL, MARR, JACKSON, > COX, DUREN, ALLEN, WOOD, MEADOR, MOBLEY. > > Also: PEIRCE, STRICKLAND, REAGAN, LARRISON, GREENWOOD, JARVIS, GREEN, > DAVIS, SCOTT, EMBRY,KRAMER, MATOUSEK, MOOTY, BATTAGLIA. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 8:09 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? > > No. > > I am working on the Helms family - just happened to see the name > Leggett. > > Gerald Helms

I'd very much like to have a copy of this. Please send to [email protected] This would have to be John Montgomery Belk who was a doctor, left his practice and joined his brother Henry in the business. Right? Doris Researching in NC/SC: BIBBY, BELK, LEGGETT, BEAM, HILL, MARR, JACKSON, COX, DUREN, ALLEN, WOOD, MEADOR, MOBLEY. Also: PEIRCE, STRICKLAND, REAGAN, LARRISON, GREENWOOD, JARVIS, GREEN, DAVIS, SCOTT, EMBRY,KRAMER, MATOUSEK, MOOTY, BATTAGLIA. -----Original Message----- From: Burkholder [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 10:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? Doris I have a copy of a newspaper article (no date...sorry)Monroe NC..Dr JM. Belk's will....it mentions unmarried daughters, Mabel,Daisy,Henry (sic) and Johnnie.It mentions stock and other of his holdings. Also brother, W. H. Belk. No wife mentioned. If this is of interest to you let me know and I will copy and e-mail to you direct. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debi McGee Cundiff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? > Doris, > > I don't have any Leggett ancestors that I am aware of. I research the > Helms surname. > > If you have not seen the Will of Sampson Doster - 1852 from Union County > it can be found at the following URL on RootsWeb: > ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/union/wills/sampso03.txt > > This will talks about the children of "my daughter Polly Helms" and goes > on to name six children. It also does not name which Helms male Polly > married, but it does list her as being deceased. > > Hope it helps, > > Debi McGee Cundiff > > Lake County, Florida > Proud Sponsor of RootsWeb 2000 > Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/ > Genie Angel Volunteer at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~angels/ > > DJ Peirce wrote: > > > > I have a Polly BELK, dau of Capt Darling BELK & Hannah DOSTER, who > > married a HELMS...I don't have the first name, but have the names of 6 > > children. would they help you? Or could you put first names with > > them? Can you add to the Legget family for me? > > > > Any help with the BELK or LEGGET family will be appreciated. > > Doris > > > > Researching in NC/SC: BIBBY, BELK, LEGGETT, BEAM, HILL, MARR, JACKSON, > > COX, DUREN, ALLEN, WOOD, MEADOR, MOBLEY. > > > > Also: PEIRCE, STRICKLAND, REAGAN, LARRISON, GREENWOOD, JARVIS, GREEN, > > DAVIS, SCOTT, EMBRY,KRAMER, MATOUSEK, MOOTY, BATTAGLIA. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 8:09 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Belk/Leggett researchers?? > > > > No. > > > > I am working on the Helms family - just happened to see the name > > Leggett. > > > > Gerald Helms > >

There's a big thick book of Doster genealogy at the Monroe NC library....I think it may be fairly recent. I really didn't get to spend as much time there as I wanted to, but I suppose that's never going to happen. We'll just have to go back to NC when we can spend more time -- maybe start in Raleigh and work our way down? I think you are probably correct--that the brother of Sampson Doster had a dau. named Polly who may have married a Helms.... I have Hannah Doster, dau of Sampson Doster& Mary Agness Laney, m. 1812 Darling Belk Jr., who is the son of Darling Belk Sr & Agnes Nelson. [his first w. (m.1807) was Sarah Brown]. I also have a Tressa (?) Doster who m. George Washington Lafayette Belk abt 1870ish. Darling Belk Jr. and Hannah Doster had a dau Polly, b.1835, who married _____Helms 1855.Their son, Isaac Ambrose Helms,b.1863. Then I have another Polly Belk, b.1793, dau of Darling Belk Sr. and Agnes Nelson...don't have a spouse name for her. Do you have a name here? I also have a Polly ____ who m. Julius A. Belk. could this be a Helms? I have to run out just now, but will try to pick this up when I return this afternoon. Doris Researching in NC/SC: BIBBY, BELK, LEGGETT, BEAM, HILL, MARR, JACKSON, COX, DUREN, ALLEN, WOOD, MEADOR, MOBLEY. Also: PEIRCE, STRICKLAND, REAGAN, LARRISON, GREENWOOD, JARVIS, GREEN, DAVIS, SCOTT, EMBRY,KRAMER, MATOUSEK, MOOTY, BATTAGLIA. -----Original Message----- From: Eugene W. Helms [mailto:[email protected]] Isn't this Polly Helms the Polly Doster, daughter of Sampson Doster, who married Capt. Isaac Haney Helms? It was Polly's sister, Hannah Doster that married Darling Belk, I believe. Now, did they also have a daughter, Polly Belk, who married another Helms? I'm asking here...help me out. If so, this Polly Helms would have been the niece of the elder Polly Helms. So, were there really two Polly Helms? I too would like to know the name of the Helms who married Polly Belk. I chimed in here because of the reference to Sampson Doster. Have been searching a long time for the connection between Sampson Doster and my ancestor, Sampson Dawster (Doster?) Helms, b. 1824. For a long time I felt that he must be a son of one of Sampson Doster's daughters, but that apparently is NOT the case. Oh, well... Gene Helms

Hi all: I have an interesting pattern vaguely beginning to unfold here... Seems like a bit of a Coinsidence or (?) as type of connection. Although I have James G. KING as an ancestor (Union Co., NC), with a Benjamin Franklin KING (aka Frank or B.F.) George W(?) Belk KING as his son (so far no way to know how or where the BELK connections comes in) -- Am assuming there is some sort of connection. BF in listed on the 1900 Cenus in Union Co., NC; in the Lake Co., FL 1910 Census as a Farm Foreman and then is back to Union Co., NC. by 1920. George W. was born in Union Co., served in the WW I and settled in Carbarrus Co., and died there. George had his father living with him the last four years of his life (according to an Obit) and buried in Union Co. Question: Is there a chance there was a BELK Farm in Lake Co., FL during that period? If there was, perhaps it would confirm (for me), the closeness of the connection of the KING, BELK and even the HELM line. Just trying to build a tighter case of proof and connection. Dawn Hines, J :

tree follows; Descendants of Hannah Elizabeth Belk 1 Hannah Elizabeth Belk 1843 - WFT Est. 1882-1938 .. +Israel L. Helms 1844 - 1881 ........ 2 Sampson D. Helms 1869 - 1955 ............ +Phoebe Esther (Emma) Belk 1874 - 1931 ................... 3 William Israel Helms 1894 - 1974 ....................... +Ila Esther Eubanks 1897 - 1976 ............................. 4 Emma Geneva Helms Private - ................................. +Whiteford Leston Hilton Private - ............................. 4 William Horace Helms Private - ................................. +Carolyn Greene Private - ................... 3 Arthur (Archer ?) Helms 1895 - 1895 ................... 3 Franklin L. (Frank) Helms 1898 - 1900 ................... 3 Lawrence Bickett Helms 1899 - 1976 ....................... +Gyness Rape 1900 - 1934 ............................. 4 Theda Frances Helms 1924 - 1924 ............................. 4 Lorraine Mae Helms Private - ................................. +James Ernest Helms Private - ............................. 4 Claudine Helms Private - ................................. +Harolee Ford 1924 - 1977 ............................. 4 Lawrence Bickett Helms Private - ................................. +Sarah Elizabeth (Betty) Unk Private - ............................. 4 Phoebe Esther Helms Private - ................................. +Raymond Dickerson Jones Private - ............................. 4 Webb Helms Private - ................... *2nd Wife of Lawrence Bickett Helms: ....................... +Donnie Mae Gryder 1907 - 1964 ................... *3rd Wife of Lawrence Bickett Helms: ....................... +Mary Lee Jackson Private - ................... 3 Samuel Roy Helms 1906 - 1950 ....................... +Ona Lee (Johnson) Ivey Private - ............................. 4 Roy Smith Helms Private - ................................. +Quinn Margaret Howie Private - ........ 2 Coleman D. Helms 1872 - 1945 ............ +Queen Elizabeth (Gwen) Belk 1876 - 1944 ................... 3 Obediah Doster (Obe) Helms 1901 - 1920 ................... 3 Infant Helms 1902 - 1902 ................... 3 Heath Helms 1903 - 1920 ................... 3 Robert Olden Helms Private - ....................... +Bessie Aycoth Private - ............................. 4 Colene Helms Private - ................................. +Don Harris Private - ............................. 4 Arnold Oren Helms Private - ................................. +Alva Price Private - ............................. 4 Robert Olden Helms Private - ................................. +Ruth Helms Private - ............................. 4 Brenda Louise Helms Private - ................................. +James Edward Wilhelm Private - ........ 2 Doctor A. (Dock) Helms 1874 - 1935 ........ 2 Marcus B. Helms 1876 - 1903 ........ 2 James Israel Helms 1877 - 1918 ............ +Margaret Jinnet (Mog) Belk 1878 - 1948 ................... 3 Steven Anderson (Andy) Helms Private - ....................... +Lola Woolard Private - ............................. 4 Steven Anderson Helms Private - ................................. +Elva Haley Private - ............................. 4 Brian Belk Helms Private - ................................. +Sharon Annette Prim Private - ................... 3 O'Dessa Beatrice Helms Private - ....................... +Lemuel Frank McGwier Private - ............................. 4 James Phillip McGwier Private - ................................. +Lina Hendley Farr Private - ............................. 4 Frank Paul McGwier Private - ................................. +Martha Ann Bland Private - ............................. 4 Alan Ross McGwier Private - ................................. +Patricia Ann Hunter Private - ................... 3 James Helms Private - ........ 2 Mary R. Helms 1879 - WFT Est. 1880-1973 ........ 2 Roberta Helms 1880 - WFT Est. 1902-1974 ............ +John T. Parker 1875 - WFT Est. 1902-1966

Isn't this Polly Helms the Polly Doster, daughter of Sampson Doster, who married Capt. Isaac Haney Helms? It was Polly's sister, Hannah Doster that married Darling Belk, I believe. Now, did they also have a daughter, Polly Belk, who married another Helms? I'm asking here...help me out. If so, this Polly Helms would have been the niece of the elder Polly Helms. So, were there really two Polly Helms? I too would like to know the name of the Helms who married Polly Belk. I chimed in here because of the reference to Sampson Doster. Have been searching a long time for the connection between Sampson Doster and my ancestor, Sampson Dawster (Doster?) Helms, b. 1824. For a long time I felt that he must be a son of one of Sampson Doster's daughters, but that apparently is NOT the case. Oh, well... Gene Helms