William, For Union county my surnames (along with some first names) are WOLFE (Philip, Henry, Adam, Mary Clementine), KRAUSS (William Henry, Mary Louisa), TAYLOR (Henry Francis), VINCENT (Martha), DOSTER (Pamela), FILES (Elizabeth). Enjoy your trip to England. I have a colleague from England and she suggests you check the churches. William D. Lewis, MS * [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: William [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCUNION] Planned Trip to England Bill, Just wondering what your surnames were. I'm new to the list. William Newsom, [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 4:14 PM Subject: [NCUNION] Planned Trip to England > Hello to All: Many of you may have already see my previous message > concerning my planned trip to England. I need to ask you for your > recommendation on information to obtain while I am over there. > > My planned intention is to obtain as much information as possible on William > I, > his children, John, Samuel, William II, Robert, Frances and Elizabeth. Also, > would like to find anything on Jacob. Also, was their a "Benjamin"? > > You can also help by providing me names or other data that I could obtain > which would help us all. You can be sure that I will provide all info I > obtain on to all of you. > I want to do this to help all of us and if you can now give me your thoughts, > it would help a bunch. > > Warm Regards, > > Bill W. >

Bill, Just wondering what your surnames were. I'm new to the list. William Newsom, [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 4:14 PM Subject: [NCUNION] Planned Trip to England > Hello to All: Many of you may have already see my previous message > concerning my planned trip to England. I need to ask you for your > recommendation on information to obtain while I am over there. > > My planned intention is to obtain as much information as possible on William > I, > his children, John, Samuel, William II, Robert, Frances and Elizabeth. Also, > would like to find anything on Jacob. Also, was their a "Benjamin"? > > You can also help by providing me names or other data that I could obtain > which would help us all. You can be sure that I will provide all info I > obtain on to all of you. > I want to do this to help all of us and if you can now give me your thoughts, > it would help a bunch. > > Warm Regards, > > Bill W. >

Sorry, the Surname is Weddington. Should have made that clear. Thank you. Bill W.

Hello to All: Many of you may have already see my previous message concerning my planned trip to England. I need to ask you for your recommendation on information to obtain while I am over there. My planned intention is to obtain as much information as possible on William I, his children, John, Samuel, William II, Robert, Frances and Elizabeth. Also, would like to find anything on Jacob. Also, was their a "Benjamin"? You can also help by providing me names or other data that I could obtain which would help us all. You can be sure that I will provide all info I obtain on to all of you. I want to do this to help all of us and if you can now give me your thoughts, it would help a bunch. Warm Regards, Bill W.

Tina, I will talk to Charlie and see what I can do about getting the copies made. Hope all goes well with your surgery. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 11:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCUNION] Re: NCUNION-D Digest V00 #118 Bill, I would love to have a copy of the picture. I will gladly pay for the printing. It was a great old school. I have so many great memories of my years there. Is there anything that I can do for you? Keep in mind that I am less than 1/2 mile through the woods from the Steeple Chase entrance. If you need phone numbers looked up, email me privately. If you need a picture of a gravestone, just let me know. I won't be able to do anything for three or four weeks, due to back surgery tomorrow. After that, though, I can help you. Tina [email protected]

Bill, I would love to have a copy of the picture. I will gladly pay for the printing. It was a great old school. I have so many great memories of my years there. Is there anything that I can do for you? Keep in mind that I am less than 1/2 mile through the woods from the Steeple Chase entrance. If you need phone numbers looked up, email me privately. If you need a picture of a gravestone, just let me know. I won't be able to do anything for three or four weeks, due to back surgery tomorrow. After that, though, I can help you. Tina [email protected]

To the list. I have recently completed and uploaded a web page that contains the contents of the diary of John Osborn. This diary was written from 1800 to 1802 by John while living in the area of Monroe, NC. This diary is the only volume, number 6, that has survived and was originally transcribed from the original into a typed form by Clara Laney. However, this form was continuous in nature and very difficult to search. I have changed the format by making each day a separate paragraph, but kept the grammar and misspelled words that Clara apparently copied from the original and I put all the names of John's neighbors and other people he interacted with in a bold type. A link is provided so by clicking on the page number you will be taken to that lot of 10 pages. Links are provided at the bottom of each lot of 10 pages, so you can quickly go to the next lot of 10 pages, the previous 10 pages or to the index. The index contains the names of the people and the page where they occur. However, since the diary is 112 type written pages, I have provided the pages in lots of 10 pages. So you will have to use the find feature in your browser to find the person you want after you have been directed to the lot of 10 pages. The size of each package of 10 pages is around 40K so the download time will not be too long. At the end of the diary is an impression written by D. L. McWhorter in 1955. You might find the document interesting as it contains the names and sometimes the entire family of John's neighbors. It also gives you a little insight into the daily lives of our ancestors that lived in the area. The URL for the diary is: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~helmsnc/osborndiary/ If you find any problems with the web site please let me know so I can correct them. Harold -- Visit the story of our search for the North Carolina Helms' ancestors: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~helmsnc Or the Fredericksburg Civil War Cemetery list at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~helmsnc/FredCWCEM

Tina, I will be in Charlotte in October. If you would like I will try and get a color copy of the school photograph if you would like. Bill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 1:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCUNION] Re: NCUNION-D Digest V00 #116 Yes. Plato lives on the same side of the road as the Steeple Chase entrance. I can't remember if the small home located in the pasture is still there, but Plato's house is on the other side of those barns. There's alot of large trees surrounding the home. His sister lives in a nursing home close by. It's neat that Charles has those pictures. I have one of my cousins and myself sitting on the first grade steps. You can't really see the building, as it is a close-up. I ended up becoming a teacher in this small community. Tina

Yes. Plato lives on the same side of the road as the Steeple Chase entrance. I can't remember if the small home located in the pasture is still there, but Plato's house is on the other side of those barns. There's alot of large trees surrounding the home. His sister lives in a nursing home close by. It's neat that Charles has those pictures. I have one of my cousins and myself sitting on the first grade steps. You can't really see the building, as it is a close-up. I ended up becoming a teacher in this small community. Tina

Norma, Thanks so much. This is great. I found a reference to Camp Meeting (Methodist Sacrament) on Aug 1st of one of the years. John did not appear to care for the methodists too much though! William D. Lewis, MS * [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Norma W Matthews [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 1:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCUNION] A fantastic website Norma W. Matthews Bill Lewis and others, for a wonderful "look into life in the Carolina's in 1800" check out the Diary of John Osbourne found in the Helms website. He mentions so many people who were in the Union Co area, as well as Lancaster SC, whose names are familiar to many of us through research. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~helmsnc/jopageindex.html I was so thrilled to find my Daniel Winchester mentioned numerous times, I just had to share this ! Just hope this is NEW information, not something that's already been mentioned on this forum (and I missed it somehow).

Norma W. Matthews Bill Lewis and others, for a wonderful "look into life in the Carolina's in 1800" check out the Diary of John Osbourne found in the Helms website. He mentions so many people who were in the Union Co area, as well as Lancaster SC, whose names are familiar to many of us through research. http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~helmsnc/jopageindex.html I was so thrilled to find my Daniel Winchester mentioned numerous times, I just had to share this ! Just hope this is NEW information, not something that's already been mentioned on this forum (and I missed it somehow).

When I walked to Philip Wolfe's grave my wife's grandfather, Charles Winchester was with me. He pointed out to me where the saw mill used to be as you can see some of it still in the ground there. He also mentioned that his cousin lived at the house there which at one time used to be Charles' uncle's residence. I believe the house was rebuilt but that the barns, etc... were original. Is this cousin Plato and is this where he lives? We took the woods to enter Steeple Chase but walked out on the road that leads to the entrance near to where the saw mill used to be. You would be interested to know that Charles had two copies of an old picture of the school house that very day at Camp Meeting so he could show me where the school used to stand. Charles also attended the school. William D. Lewis, MS * [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 10:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCUNION] Re: NCUNION-D Digest V00 #115 Hi Bill! It's so neat to hear someone on the internet describe a place that is just a half of a mile through the woods from my house. The Steeple Chase entrance was built on the site that used to be Plato's sawmill. The sawmill was small with only only a roof and a back wall to shelter it from the elements. My father used that sawmill to saw logs from our farm into boards. Those boards were used to build the houses for my sisters' houses, my parents' house, and my own house. I used to marvel at how such a small sawmill could put out so many boards in such a short amount of time. There is something else about the name Winchester that might interest you. Thirty-one years ago, I was a first grader at Mineral Springs Elementary. That school was torn down, when I completed the sixth grade there. Plato was the maintenance worker there at that time. Because my Mom left early for work, we were dropped off early at school. I can remember Plato letting me help with filling the furnace with coal. He would share the snack that his wife had packed for him that day. Plato also enjoyed riding horses and would sometimes cut through our farm during his ride. I even had the chance to ride with him once. I hope you have the chance to talk to Plato. He is one of the nicest people you could ever meet or talk to. He may have the answer to many of your questions. Good Luck, T. McRorie

Hi Bill! It's so neat to hear someone on the internet describe a place that is just a half of a mile through the woods from my house. The Steeple Chase entrance was built on the site that used to be Plato's sawmill. The sawmill was small with only only a roof and a back wall to shelter it from the elements. My father used that sawmill to saw logs from our farm into boards. Those boards were used to build the houses for my sisters' houses, my parents' house, and my own house. I used to marvel at how such a small sawmill could put out so many boards in such a short amount of time. There is something else about the name Winchester that might interest you. Thirty-one years ago, I was a first grader at Mineral Springs Elementary. That school was torn down, when I completed the sixth grade there. Plato was the maintenance worker there at that time. Because my Mom left early for work, we were dropped off early at school. I can remember Plato letting me help with filling the furnace with coal. He would share the snack that his wife had packed for him that day. Plato also enjoyed riding horses and would sometimes cut through our farm during his ride. I even had the chance to ride with him once. I hope you have the chance to talk to Plato. He is one of the nicest people you could ever meet or talk to. He may have the answer to many of your questions. Good Luck, T. McRorie

I'm sure that Gerald will be writing you as soon as he can, this is summer and I guess life gets in the way of genealogy <G> K. McGee At 03:56 PM 08/14/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Recently (August 3) I replied directly to the email below regarding a >very possible connection, but I haven't heard anything back. If >[email protected] would please contact me, I would appreciate it. The >connection I have is with the descendants of Jacob B. Austin. >Thanks! >Debbie in Minnesota >[email protected] > >[email protected] wrote: > > > > Descendants of Stephen H. Parker > > > > 1 Stephen H. Parker 1813 - <snip> > > ........................ +Raymond Culpepper Griffin 1873 - 1953 > > Descendants of Rhoda Parker > > > > I added data from your e-mail - Gerald Helms > > > > Descendants of Jacob B. Austin > > > > 1 Jacob B. Austin 1779 - 1858 > > .. +Charlotte Palmer 1775 - <snip> > > ............................... 4 Lydia M. Gaddy 1866 - > > ................................... +John Wilson Stegall 1851 - 1937 > > ............................... 4 Mary Allie Gaddy 1868 - > > ................................... +Thomas B. Griffin 1859 - 1898 <snip> > > *3rd Wife of Jacob B. Austin: > > .. +Rhoda Parker 1814 -

Recently (August 3) I replied directly to the email below regarding a very possible connection, but I haven't heard anything back. If [email protected] would please contact me, I would appreciate it. The connection I have is with the descendants of Jacob B. Austin. Thanks! Debbie in Minnesota [email protected] [email protected] wrote: > > Descendants of Stephen H. Parker > > 1 Stephen H. Parker 1813 - > .. +Zilpha H. Ashcraft 1813 - 1897 > ......... 2 Sophia A. Parker 1835 - > ............. +Moses W. Moore 1833 - 1896 > .................... 3 John E. Moore 1856 - > ........................ +Martha E. Rushing 1858 - > ......... 2 Harriett L. Parker 1840 - > ............. +Reuben D. Rushing 1837 - 1862 > .................... 3 Zilpha Anne Rushing 1859 - > ........................ +Augustus Marsh 1856 - 1932 > .................... 3 John Rushing 1860 - > ......... *2nd Husband of Harriett L. Parker: > ............. +William Benson Marsh 1819 - 1907 > ......... 2 James F. Parker 1845 - > ......... 2 Mary Jane (Mollie) Parker 1849 - 1933 > ............. +John D. Marsh 1850 - 1921 > .................... 3 Olive B. (Ola) Marsh 1869 - > ........................ +William T. Morgan 1871 - > .................... 3 Bessie Hoyle Marsh 1877 - 1962 > ........................ +Raymond Culpepper Griffin 1873 - 1953 > Descendants of Rhoda Parker > > I added data from your e-mail - Gerald Helms > > Descendants of Jacob B. Austin > > 1 Jacob B. Austin 1779 - 1858 > .. +Charlotte Palmer 1775 - > ......... 2 Bryant E. Austin 1808 - 1893 > ............. +Betsy Parker 1826 - 1923 > ......... *2nd Wife of Bryant E. Austin: > ............. +Rhoda Parker 1809 - > .................... 3 James G. Austin 1835 - 1862 > .................... 3 George P. Austin 1836 - > ........................ +Rosannah (Rosa) Gaddy 1839 - > ............................... 4 Mark Austin 1858 - > ............................... 4 John W. Austin 1860 - > ................................... +Mary F. Shute 1853 - > .................... 3 Ira W. R. Austin 1838 - > .................... 3 John Austin 1840 - > .................... 3 Charlotia E. (Charlotte) Austin 1841 - 1896 > ........................ +Thomas S. Trull 1840 - > ............................... 4 James W. Trull 1867 - 1884 > ............................... 4 Mumford D. Trull 1869 - > .................... 3 Marcus E. Austin 1844 - > .................... 3 Juliette F. Austin 1846 - > ........................ +Wilson P.(Pleasant) Gaddy 1834 - > ............................... 4 Lydia M. Gaddy 1866 - > ................................... +John Wilson Stegall 1851 - 1937 > ............................... 4 Mary Allie Gaddy 1868 - > ................................... +Thomas B. Griffin 1859 - 1898 > ............................... 4 Alfred Gaddy 1870 - > .................... 3 Wesley M. Austin 1848 - 1931 > ........................ +Jane (Jennie) House 1860 - 1947 > ............................... 4 James Austin 1899 - 1901 > .................... 3 Lucinda Jane (Lucy) Austin 1850 - 1891 > *2nd Wife of Jacob B. Austin: > .. +Betty House > *3rd Wife of Jacob B. Austin: > .. +Rhoda Parker 1814 -

Thanks for the reply, I will definitely contact Plato. As far as we know the Winchesters are only on my wife's line, hopefully!, however cousins of ours (such as Mary Wolfe and Wm Winchester as well as Wolfes and Howies) have married in the past. Camp Meeting was great this year as always. Philip Wolfe's grave is actually behind Krauswood, which was part of the land he purchased from King George III. It is called Krauswood due to my 2nd great grandfather William Henry Kraus acquiring through his marriage to Mary Clementine Wolfe (2nd great grandmother). His grave, and that of his wife (Elizabeth Files) as well as several unmarked graves is now part of the Steeple Chase property (horse farm) which was once part of Krauswood. William D. Lewis, MS * [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Winchester Hi! I read your postings with great interest. I live near the Pleasant Grove Campground in Mineral Springs, NC. I have fond memories of spending time there as a child. Have you tried contacting the Winchesters in Mineral Springs? There's an elderly man named Plato Winchester that lives there, and he could tell you alot about your ancestors, I'm sure. Good luck! T. C. McRorie [email protected]

My name is Chris Reeder. I was wondering if any of you may know the parents of this Alfred Willis Baucom??? Any and all help is appreciated. Chris Reeder Florence, SC http://creeder.taylordata.com 1 Alfred Willis Baucom 1809 - 1870 .+Frances ? 1820 - 1870 m: Bef. 1835 ..2 James W. Baucom 1835 - 1863 ......+Louise "Susan" Preslar 1832 - 1891 ..2 Elizabeth Baucom 1836 - ..2 Sarah Baucom 1840 - ..2 Louise Jane Baucom 1842 - ......+James C. Rushing 1841 - 1864 ..*2nd Husband of Louise Jane Baucom: ......+David Hargett 1808 - m: January 06, 1878 ..2 William Riley Baucom 1844 - 1925 ......+Lavina Jane Rushing 1844 - 1922 m: August 09, 1863 ..2 Rosa Roeny Baucom 1847 - ..2 Levi Baucom 1848 - 1870 ......+Sarah Jane Brooks 1845 - 1870 m: December 17, 1868 ..2 Manervy Baucom 1852 - ..2 Mary F. Baucom 1855 -

Since you replied yes to all my questions I found your Mary Polly Wolfe Winchester! She is buried at Camp Meeting (Pleasant Grove, Mineral Springs, NC) beside her husband and her children. She did pass away in 1856. Most of her tomb stone was knocked over and disintegrated however her footstone read M W 1856. William's tomb stone was fine. What clued me in was that the tomb stones of their children always said for example "Sarah, daughter of Wm and Mary Winchester. I knew this had to be your Mary based on that and the fact that her grave was right beside Wm's and the footstone read M W 1856. I photographed all the tombstones/footstones for you. In addition I found and photographed Adam F. Wolfe's grave and Philip Wolfe's grave (my 3rd and 5th great grandfathers respectively). Adam was Mary's brother, Philip is her grandfather. I will send you copies of all photographs once I have them developed so please send me your address. I plan on photographing Henry Wolfe's grave Pamela Doster's (my great, great grandparents) and others when I return in October as I did not have time to go into Monroe proper on this trip. In closing I thought you would find it interesting that you are not only a cousin of mine but you are also a cousin of my wife, as her mother is a Winchester and is related to Wm Winchester. Sincere regards, William D. Lewis, MS * [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Norma W Matthews [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 10:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Mary Polly Wolfe Winchester Good morning, Yes, yes and yes. Spiritual renewal, meeting like-minded people and the meeting "new" people is always exciting and so nice. We do, however, have to return to "the real world", but isn't it nice, one day we can go "to a real camp meeting atmosphere" and won't have to return? I have seen there were a lot of Coker's in TN. A question from me, has there ever been any/much discussion about Winchester heritage which includes Native American background? Welllllll, need to get a cup of coffee here to wake me up a little more, before I REALLY start this day (I'm getting a late start as it is). THANKS ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 8:11 AM Subject: RE: Mary Polly Wolfe Winchester Norma, I believe I found your Mary Winchester. I have three questions. Was William's middle initial D (Daniel)? Do you have Wm's dob and dod as 15 Mar 1794 to 07 Dec 1847? Did Wm and Mary have a daughter named Sarah? Let me know. Camp Meeting was wonderful. I met many of my Krauss cousins that I had never met before. I wanted to stay permanently but unfortunately I had to return to the real world. I also met a Ray Winchester Coker who is descended from Wm and Mary Winchester. That would make him a cousin of ours as well. William D. Lewis, MS * [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: Norma W Matthews [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 9:40 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Mary Polly Wolfe Winchester ********Mornin Bill, Bless you, I appreciate that. Know you'll ENJOY the Camp Meeting, tho it'll be rather warm the fellowship and singing will make it more pleasant. I KNOW there is SO MUCH information up there. It makes me feel badly in a way, I live in the Atlanta area, and Monroe is not all that far away. However---I'm a "senior" and have no one to go with me, and just feel rather uneasy going new places all alone. (It hasn't always been that way, but it is now). I have contacted The Heritage Room for information on Winchesters, Daniel and his family in particular. I asked that someone email the cost so I could send them a check, that was at least two weeks ago, nothing yet. It's frustrating. Again, many thanks, and I shall look forward with anticipation, to hearing from you again. Norma *************************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> < mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> < mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:26 AM Subject: Mary Polly Wolfe Winchester Norma, You are correct in that I had her dod as 1881. I have corresponded with G Helms in the past and he has her dod as 1850. I am going to be in the Monroe area doing research as well as attending Camp Meeting the second week of August. I will be visiting the cemetery at Pleasant Grove (site of Camp Meeting in Mineral Springs) as well the Monroe City Cemetery, the cemetery at the Krauss' old place and I believe there is a Union Co. Cemetery where Henry Wolfe and Pamela Doster are buried. I will be photographing tombstones, etc... I will be sure to look for your Polly. In addition, I am going to give a lady in Monroe a call who was partially responsible for some of the data that I have now. She may know where Polly is buried. As I learn more I will get back to you. William D. Lewis, MS * [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> < mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >

Thanks for the link. Mike

Hey guys... Just wanted to let you know I have just added a few cool links on my web site: http://creeder.taylordata.com Click on the Genealogy link. There are now images that locate the cemeteries of Union County, NC They were done by Charles Bivens and Barbara Moore. Chris Reeder Florence, SC