Union County was formed from part of Mecklenburg and part of Anson Counties in 1842. The 1850 Union County Census was their first. So your Osborn probably IS the one who formerly lived in Mecklenburg.

Could you please e-mail that again. I inadvertently deleted it. thank you' Joy Skipper Hinson

>Salathiel Helms Married Drucilla P. Conder, d/o of Lewis Conder, Jr. and >Rebecca Crowell on 24 Jan 1860 in Union Co. > >Salathiel is the son of Noah and Lovina Helms. > >Ref: The Helms Descendants(1720-1991) Page 238. I'm interested in the CONDER family mentioned here. Is anyone else working on them? Elizabeth Harris ncgen@mindspring.com state coordinator for NCGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/

Salathiel Helms Married Drucilla P. Conder, d/o of Lewis Conder, Jr. and Rebecca Crowell on 24 Jan 1860 in Union Co. Salathiel is the son of Noah and Lovina Helms. Ref: The Helms Descendants(1720-1991) Page 238.

I was wondering if anyone has ever seen this Salathiel Helms? He would be in the 1880 census if someone would be kind enough to look it up. This is all I have on him. Chris Reeder Florence, SC http://creeder.taylordata.com/ Descendants of Salathiel Helms Generation No. 1 1. Salathiel1 Helms. He married Drucilla ?. Child of Salathiel Helms and Drucilla ? is: 2 i. Elias Newton2 Helms, born April 13, 1877; died September 26, 1941 in Union Co., NC. He married Tiney Cornelia Reeder December 28, 1902.

Thanks so much for the 1790 lookup. Very appreciated!!! Chris -----Original Message----- From: bmoore [mailto:bmoore@perigee.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 12:28 AM To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCUNION-L] 1790-1830 Census lookup. North Carolina Census 1790 by Genealogical Publishing Company GARMON - Salisbury District - Mecklenburg County Michael Garmon - 1 white male over 16, 1 free white male under 16 1 Free white female including heads of families and 9 slaves Garmon (widow) 1 white male over 16, 1 free white male under 16, 1 free white female including heads of families and 8 slaves No - GARMAN No - JARMON 3 - JARMAN Edenton District, Tyrrell county John Jarman - 1 free male over 16, 3 free males under 16, 3 free females including head of families - 0 slaves Newbern District, Carteret County Littleton Jarman, 1 free male over 16, 2 free males under 16, 6 free females including head of families- 0 slaves Wilmington District, Onslow county Thomas Jarman - 1 free male over 16, 4 free females including head of families 3 - JARMIN Joseph Jarmin - 2 free males over 16, 2 free males under 16, 4 free females including head of families, and 4 slaves Rachel Jarmin - 1 free male over 16, 1 free male under 16, 4 free females including heads of families - 4 slaves Hall Jarmin - 1 free male over 16, 1 free male under 16, 1 free female including head of families - 3 slaves This is the only year of the series that you requested that I have. Good luck. ---------- > From: Chris Reeder <creeder@taylordata.com> > To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCUNION-L] 1790-1830 Census lookup. > Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 1:18 PM > > I was wondering if someone would be kind enough to lookup the Garmon, > Jarmon, Garman, etc.... in the 1790-1830 census of North Carolina in the > Anson, Mecklenburg, and Cabarrus Counties. There should not be many... > > Thanks in advance, > Chris Reeder > Florence, SC > http://creeder.taylordata.com/ ______________________________

North Carolina Census 1790 by Genealogical Publishing Company GARMON - Salisbury District - Mecklenburg County Michael Garmon - 1 white male over 16, 1 free white male under 16 1 Free white female including heads of families and 9 slaves Garmon (widow) 1 white male over 16, 1 free white male under 16, 1 free white female including heads of families and 8 slaves No - GARMAN No - JARMON 3 - JARMAN Edenton District, Tyrrell county John Jarman - 1 free male over 16, 3 free males under 16, 3 free females including head of families - 0 slaves Newbern District, Carteret County Littleton Jarman, 1 free male over 16, 2 free males under 16, 6 free females including head of families- 0 slaves Wilmington District, Onslow county Thomas Jarman - 1 free male over 16, 4 free females including head of families 3 - JARMIN Joseph Jarmin - 2 free males over 16, 2 free males under 16, 4 free females including head of families, and 4 slaves Rachel Jarmin - 1 free male over 16, 1 free male under 16, 4 free females including heads of families - 4 slaves Hall Jarmin - 1 free male over 16, 1 free male under 16, 1 free female including head of families - 3 slaves This is the only year of the series that you requested that I have. Good luck. ---------- > From: Chris Reeder <creeder@taylordata.com> > To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCUNION-L] 1790-1830 Census lookup. > Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 1:18 PM > > I was wondering if someone would be kind enough to lookup the Garmon, > Jarmon, Garman, etc.... in the 1790-1830 census of North Carolina in the > Anson, Mecklenburg, and Cabarrus Counties. There should not be many... > > Thanks in advance, > Chris Reeder > Florence, SC > http://creeder.taylordata.com/

I can't shed any light on the questions, both could be possibilities. I know your quest is challenging. I guess all genealogist must really love a good puzzle. The book I referenced is the Union County North Carolina Marriages 1843-1899 compiled by Frances R. Small. I don't know if she has any more of this edition. It was self-published in 1986. Her address is 605 Craig Street, Monroe, NC 28110. This information is excerpted from the marriage records in the Union County Register of Deeds office, 500 N. Main Street, Monroe, NC 28110. Good luck and if you think I can be of any other help, please let me know. ---------- > From: MS IDA M THOMAS <EAYM28A@prodigy.com> > To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCUNION-L] REDFEARN > Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 5:02 PM > > Thank you so much for the information. It certainly added > possibilities and leads. I noticed that several couples share the > same last name. I can conclude two things by this: > > 1. That they had already assumed the name of the spouse prior to > reporting their cohabitation. > 2. That they were on the same plantation and they both assumed the > masters last name. > > Can you shed any light on this? Also would be interested in your > source document for this information and is it something I can obtain? > > > Again I appreciate your help...It brought a big smile face. > > > << Start of Forwarded message via Prodigy Mail >> > > From: "bmoore" > Subject: Re: [NCUNION-L] REDFEARN > Date: 12/07 > Time: 10:56 PM > > Return-Path: <NCUNION-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245. > 30]) > by clmin3-int.prodigy.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29472 > for <EAYM28A@prodigy.com>; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:51:28 -0500 > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA26485; > Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:50:11 -0800 (PST) > Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:50:11 -0800 (PST) > Message-Id: <199812080348.WAA32015@smtp.perigee.net> > From: "bmoore" <bmoore@perigee.net> > Old-To: <NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [NCUNION-L] REDFEARN > Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:47:27 -0800 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Priority: 3 > X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Resent-Message-ID: <"VkZHiC.A.scG.sHKb2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> > To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com > Reply-To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/283 > X-Loop: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: NCUNION-L-request@rootsweb.com > > The following Redfearns are listed in the marriage records of Union > County > and listed as being Black. I hope this information will help. > > Redfearn, Della 28 (Blk) d/o (Andrew Johnson Redfearn & Sarah > Blakely) to > Robert Rowland 53 (Blk) s/o Simpson Lotharp Rowland & Charity Griffin > ( > Sept. 9 - 1888) by Rev. Isom Little > Redfearn, Dora 26 (Blk) do/ Aaron Redfearn & Jemina) to Ed Lane 26 > (Blk) > s/o (Jno & Drucilla) - Nov. 18, 1896 by R. B. Redwin, J.P. > Redfearn, George 20 (Blk) s/o Aaron & Mima) to Mary Horn 18 (Blk) d/o > Jim > Rowland and Ruth Horn - March 6, 1890 - J. J. McLendon > Redfearn, Harriett - 18 (Blk) d/o Aaron & Mima to Sam Houston 23 > (Blk) s/o > Green & > Dina Clark - Feb. 11, 1882 - R. C. Collins > Redfearn, James (Blk) to Martha Redfearn (Blk) - Cohabitation > commenced > June 15, 1863 - Taken August 29, 1866 - by J. W. Hamilton, JP > Redfearn, Jane (Blk) to Jerry Redfearn (Blk) - Co-habitation > commenced in > 1866 - Taken August 28, 1866.. by J. W. Hamilton, JP > Redfearn, Jane - 21 (Blk) to Dessy Bennett - 21 (Blk) April 15, 1880 - > Rev. > A. C. Davis > Redfearn, Jerry (Blk) to Jane Redfearn (Blk) - Cohabitation commenced > in > 1866 - Taken August 28, 1866 - by V.T. Chears, JP > Redfearn, Lender to Charles Redfearn - Cohabitation commenced about > Jan. > 1855 - Taken Aug 1866 > Redfearn, Lougenia - 21 (Blk) d/o Aaron & Gemina) to H. F. Fettison - > 26 > (Blk) s/o Calvin & Winnie - September 21, 1893 - Rev. A. S. Hubbard > Redfearn, Lula - 18 - (Blk) d/o (---- Mary A. ) to Jonah Huntley - 21 > (Blk) > s/o William and Rachel) - Nov. 7, 1891 - Rev. A. C. Chambers > Redfearn, Martha (Blk) to James Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced > June > 15, 1863 - Taken August 29, 1866 - by I. W. Hamilton, J.P. > Redfearn, Mary A. 35 (Blk) d/o Jerre & Jane) to Essir Chambers - 40 > (Blk) > s/o (--- & Winey) October 22, 1895 F. P. Hntley, J.P. > Redfearn, Patsey Ann - 23 (Blk) d/o Henry & Jane to Robert Covington - > 33 > (Blk) s/o Dan & Laura - April 10, 1899 - Rev. Elijah Faulkner > Refearn, Samuel (Blk) to Silva Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced > about > 14 years ago - Taken August 31, 1866 by F. L. Wiatt, JP > Redfearn, Samuel 21 (Blk) s/o Sam & Silva) to Effie Davis 18 (Blk) > d/o > Jackson & Edie December 29, 1898 - Rev. Isom Lytle > Redfearn, Sarah 20 (Blk) d/o Watt & ____ to Andrew Levister - 22 > (Blk) s/o > Bill Levister & Linsey McBride - Dec. 27, 1899 Rev. Isom Lytle > Redfern, Sarah Ann 19 - (Blk) d/o (Jno & Della) to John McBride - 21 > (Blk) > s/o Bill Levister & Linsey McBride Dec. 27, 1899 Rev. Isom Lytle > Redfearn, Silva (Blk) to Samuel Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced > about > 14 years ago - Taken August 31, 1866 by F. L. Wiatt, JP > Redfearn, Temperance (Blk) to Wilson Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation > commenced > Oct. 1, 1862 - Taken August 28, 1866 by I. W. Hamilton, JP > Redfearn, Wilson (Blk) to Temperance Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation > commenced > Oct. 1, 1862 - Taken August 29, 1866 by I. W. Hamilton, JP > Redfearn, Wincie 24 (Blk) parents not given to Sam Rivers 35 (Blk) > s/o > Primus & Sorena April 18, 1897 by J. D. A. Secrest, JP > Redfearn, Zintha (Blk) to Wiley Cason (Blk) married under licenses > November > 9, 1866 by J. E. Huntley, JP > Redfearn, Chas. to Lender - Cohabitation commenced about January 1855 > - > Taken August 1866/ I hope this will be of some help to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > From: MS IDA M THOMAS <EAYM28A@prodigy.com> > > To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [NCUNION-L] REDFEARN > > Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 8:35 AM > > > > Andrew Redfearn b 1838/d.1925 in Union Co. buried at Philadelphia > > Baptist Church Cemetery(Black). Andrew married Sarah Rorie. > Andrew > > & Sarah had a daughter Eliza b.1878/d. 1931 in Union Co. Eliza > > married Mr. Pearl Rushing b.1880/d.1936 in Union Co. Eliza & Pearl > > > had six daughters: Emma, Ella, Mary, Wilma, Nellie & Bessie (my > > grandmother). > > > > I am seeking information on the Redfearn line of this tree. Who > was > > Andrews'' father? I know his mother's name was Harriet. Were they > > > slaves? If so who were they're owners? They all seem to have > lived > > in Marshville at some point. Did Andrew and Sarah have more > children? > > If so who were they? Did Union Co. record early marriage records > > > for African Americans? If so were can these records be located. > Any > > help with these questions or information about any of the above is > > > appreciated. > > > > ____ > > Ida Thomas > > eaym28a@prodigy.com > > Maze0516@aol.com > > > > Researching The Three R's > > REDFEARN, RUSHING & RORIE > > These are Gods People...The Kings of Kings > > > > << End of Forwarded message >> > > ____ > Ida Thomas > eaym28a@prodigy.com > Maze0516@aol.com > > Researching The Three R's > REDFEARN, RUSHING & RORIE > These are Gods People...The Kings of Kings

If posible can you tell me if there are any Rorie's or Rushing's listed. Again thanks for the information. I will try to request a copy of the book myself. ____ Ida Thomas eaym28a@prodigy.com Maze0516@aol.com Researching The Three R's REDFEARN, RUSHING & RORIE These are Gods People...The Kings of Kings

Thank you so much for the information. It certainly added possibilities and leads. I noticed that several couples share the same last name. I can conclude two things by this: 1. That they had already assumed the name of the spouse prior to reporting their cohabitation. 2. That they were on the same plantation and they both assumed the masters last name. Can you shed any light on this? Also would be interested in your source document for this information and is it something I can obtain? Again I appreciate your help...It brought a big smile face. << Start of Forwarded message via Prodigy Mail >> From: "bmoore" Subject: Re: [NCUNION-L] REDFEARN Date: 12/07 Time: 10:56 PM Return-Path: <NCUNION-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245. 30]) by clmin3-int.prodigy.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29472 for <EAYM28A@prodigy.com>; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:51:28 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA26485; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:50:11 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:50:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812080348.WAA32015@smtp.perigee.net> From: "bmoore" <bmoore@perigee.net> Old-To: <NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NCUNION-L] REDFEARN Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:47:27 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"VkZHiC.A.scG.sHKb2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/283 X-Loop: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: NCUNION-L-request@rootsweb.com The following Redfearns are listed in the marriage records of Union County and listed as being Black. I hope this information will help. Redfearn, Della 28 (Blk) d/o (Andrew Johnson Redfearn & Sarah Blakely) to Robert Rowland 53 (Blk) s/o Simpson Lotharp Rowland & Charity Griffin ( Sept. 9 - 1888) by Rev. Isom Little Redfearn, Dora 26 (Blk) do/ Aaron Redfearn & Jemina) to Ed Lane 26 (Blk) s/o (Jno & Drucilla) - Nov. 18, 1896 by R. B. Redwin, J.P. Redfearn, George 20 (Blk) s/o Aaron & Mima) to Mary Horn 18 (Blk) d/o Jim Rowland and Ruth Horn - March 6, 1890 - J. J. McLendon Redfearn, Harriett - 18 (Blk) d/o Aaron & Mima to Sam Houston 23 (Blk) s/o Green & Dina Clark - Feb. 11, 1882 - R. C. Collins Redfearn, James (Blk) to Martha Redfearn (Blk) - Cohabitation commenced June 15, 1863 - Taken August 29, 1866 - by J. W. Hamilton, JP Redfearn, Jane (Blk) to Jerry Redfearn (Blk) - Co-habitation commenced in 1866 - Taken August 28, 1866.. by J. W. Hamilton, JP Redfearn, Jane - 21 (Blk) to Dessy Bennett - 21 (Blk) April 15, 1880 - Rev. A. C. Davis Redfearn, Jerry (Blk) to Jane Redfearn (Blk) - Cohabitation commenced in 1866 - Taken August 28, 1866 - by V.T. Chears, JP Redfearn, Lender to Charles Redfearn - Cohabitation commenced about Jan. 1855 - Taken Aug 1866 Redfearn, Lougenia - 21 (Blk) d/o Aaron & Gemina) to H. F. Fettison - 26 (Blk) s/o Calvin & Winnie - September 21, 1893 - Rev. A. S. Hubbard Redfearn, Lula - 18 - (Blk) d/o (---- Mary A. ) to Jonah Huntley - 21 (Blk) s/o William and Rachel) - Nov. 7, 1891 - Rev. A. C. Chambers Redfearn, Martha (Blk) to James Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced June 15, 1863 - Taken August 29, 1866 - by I. W. Hamilton, J.P. Redfearn, Mary A. 35 (Blk) d/o Jerre & Jane) to Essir Chambers - 40 (Blk) s/o (--- & Winey) October 22, 1895 F. P. Hntley, J.P. Redfearn, Patsey Ann - 23 (Blk) d/o Henry & Jane to Robert Covington - 33 (Blk) s/o Dan & Laura - April 10, 1899 - Rev. Elijah Faulkner Refearn, Samuel (Blk) to Silva Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced about 14 years ago - Taken August 31, 1866 by F. L. Wiatt, JP Redfearn, Samuel 21 (Blk) s/o Sam & Silva) to Effie Davis 18 (Blk) d/o Jackson & Edie December 29, 1898 - Rev. Isom Lytle Redfearn, Sarah 20 (Blk) d/o Watt & ____ to Andrew Levister - 22 (Blk) s/o Bill Levister & Linsey McBride - Dec. 27, 1899 Rev. Isom Lytle Redfern, Sarah Ann 19 - (Blk) d/o (Jno & Della) to John McBride - 21 (Blk) s/o Bill Levister & Linsey McBride Dec. 27, 1899 Rev. Isom Lytle Redfearn, Silva (Blk) to Samuel Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced about 14 years ago - Taken August 31, 1866 by F. L. Wiatt, JP Redfearn, Temperance (Blk) to Wilson Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced Oct. 1, 1862 - Taken August 28, 1866 by I. W. Hamilton, JP Redfearn, Wilson (Blk) to Temperance Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced Oct. 1, 1862 - Taken August 29, 1866 by I. W. Hamilton, JP Redfearn, Wincie 24 (Blk) parents not given to Sam Rivers 35 (Blk) s/o Primus & Sorena April 18, 1897 by J. D. A. Secrest, JP Redfearn, Zintha (Blk) to Wiley Cason (Blk) married under licenses November 9, 1866 by J. E. Huntley, JP Redfearn, Chas. to Lender - Cohabitation commenced about January 1855 - Taken August 1866/ I hope this will be of some help to you. ---------- > From: MS IDA M THOMAS <EAYM28A@prodigy.com> > To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCUNION-L] REDFEARN > Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 8:35 AM > > Andrew Redfearn b 1838/d.1925 in Union Co. buried at Philadelphia > Baptist Church Cemetery(Black). Andrew married Sarah Rorie. Andrew > & Sarah had a daughter Eliza b.1878/d. 1931 in Union Co. Eliza > married Mr. Pearl Rushing b.1880/d.1936 in Union Co. Eliza & Pearl > had six daughters: Emma, Ella, Mary, Wilma, Nellie & Bessie (my > grandmother). > > I am seeking information on the Redfearn line of this tree. Who was > Andrews'' father? I know his mother's name was Harriet. Were they > slaves? If so who were they're owners? They all seem to have lived > in Marshville at some point. Did Andrew and Sarah have more children? > If so who were they? Did Union Co. record early marriage records > for African Americans? If so were can these records be located. Any > help with these questions or information about any of the above is > appreciated. > > ____ > Ida Thomas > eaym28a@prodigy.com > Maze0516@aol.com > > Researching The Three R's > REDFEARN, RUSHING & RORIE > These are Gods People...The Kings of Kings << End of Forwarded message >> ____ Ida Thomas eaym28a@prodigy.com Maze0516@aol.com Researching The Three R's REDFEARN, RUSHING & RORIE These are Gods People...The Kings of Kings

I was wondering if someone would be kind enough to lookup the Garmon, Jarmon, Garman, etc.... in the 1790-1830 census of North Carolina in the Anson, Mecklenburg, and Cabarrus Counties. There should not be many... Thanks in advance, Chris Reeder Florence, SC http://creeder.taylordata.com/

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To Chris Reeder: Can you give me any information on the +Margaret Garmon who is listed in the Helms line. Who are her relatives and are any of them from Union County or Cabarrus County? Thank you. Judith Garmon jgarmon@earthlink.net

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Chris- I ordered from them and got the surname history for my parents for Christmas last year. It came pretty quick, is very thorough (historically covered a lot of areas), and made a nice gift I thought. It's an odd size length-wise and it isn't a standard frame size, so if you do not purchase the frame online, you'll have to either fold a tiny (mm-size) crease at the bottom (won't cut off any info) or have a mat cut large enough that it would fit into a larger frame. The print quality of the crest wasn't that great, just looks like a ink-jet print job, but that was the only dissapointment. I assumed that it would be embossed or something. Ironically, they have a lot of uncommon names, but not common names. The one I got was for my maiden name- Eason, and they had it. I tried to get one for my married name- Young, and they didn't. Julie >From ncunion-l-request@rootsweb.com Tue Dec 8 08:04:18 1998 >Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA18181; > Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:03:52 -0800 (PST) >Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:03:52 -0800 (PST) >Message-ID: <0FF467715E75D111908F00A0C981D5BF0440FE@www.taylordata.com> >From: Chris Reeder <creeder@taylordata.com> >Old-To: "Reeder Group (E-mail)" <reeder@onelist.com> >Old-Cc: "Union County (E-mail)" <NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com>, > "Mecklenburg County (E-mail)" <ncmeckle-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:03:19 -0500 >X-Priority: 3 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) >Content-Type: text/plain >Subject: [NCUNION-L] Ordering Family Crest >Resent-Message-ID: <"lFRaLC.A.zbE.m3Ub2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> >To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/286 >X-Loop: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: NCUNION-L-request@rootsweb.com > >I was wondering who y'all have ordered your Family Crest from. I found >a place at http://www.family2001.com but don't know if they are good or >not. I would like to hear some advise. > >Chris Reeder >Florence, SC >http://creeder.taylordata.com/ > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

The following Redfearns are listed in the marriage records of Union County and listed as being Black. I hope this information will help. Redfearn, Della 28 (Blk) d/o (Andrew Johnson Redfearn & Sarah Blakely) to Robert Rowland 53 (Blk) s/o Simpson Lotharp Rowland & Charity Griffin ( Sept. 9 - 1888) by Rev. Isom Little Redfearn, Dora 26 (Blk) do/ Aaron Redfearn & Jemina) to Ed Lane 26 (Blk) s/o (Jno & Drucilla) - Nov. 18, 1896 by R. B. Redwin, J.P. Redfearn, George 20 (Blk) s/o Aaron & Mima) to Mary Horn 18 (Blk) d/o Jim Rowland and Ruth Horn - March 6, 1890 - J. J. McLendon Redfearn, Harriett - 18 (Blk) d/o Aaron & Mima to Sam Houston 23 (Blk) s/o Green & Dina Clark - Feb. 11, 1882 - R. C. Collins Redfearn, James (Blk) to Martha Redfearn (Blk) - Cohabitation commenced June 15, 1863 - Taken August 29, 1866 - by J. W. Hamilton, JP Redfearn, Jane (Blk) to Jerry Redfearn (Blk) - Co-habitation commenced in 1866 - Taken August 28, 1866.. by J. W. Hamilton, JP Redfearn, Jane - 21 (Blk) to Dessy Bennett - 21 (Blk) April 15, 1880 - Rev. A. C. Davis Redfearn, Jerry (Blk) to Jane Redfearn (Blk) - Cohabitation commenced in 1866 - Taken August 28, 1866 - by V.T. Chears, JP Redfearn, Lender to Charles Redfearn - Cohabitation commenced about Jan. 1855 - Taken Aug 1866 Redfearn, Lougenia - 21 (Blk) d/o Aaron & Gemina) to H. F. Fettison - 26 (Blk) s/o Calvin & Winnie - September 21, 1893 - Rev. A. S. Hubbard Redfearn, Lula - 18 - (Blk) d/o (---- Mary A. ) to Jonah Huntley - 21 (Blk) s/o William and Rachel) - Nov. 7, 1891 - Rev. A. C. Chambers Redfearn, Martha (Blk) to James Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced June 15, 1863 - Taken August 29, 1866 - by I. W. Hamilton, J.P. Redfearn, Mary A. 35 (Blk) d/o Jerre & Jane) to Essir Chambers - 40 (Blk) s/o (--- & Winey) October 22, 1895 F. P. Hntley, J.P. Redfearn, Patsey Ann - 23 (Blk) d/o Henry & Jane to Robert Covington - 33 (Blk) s/o Dan & Laura - April 10, 1899 - Rev. Elijah Faulkner Refearn, Samuel (Blk) to Silva Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced about 14 years ago - Taken August 31, 1866 by F. L. Wiatt, JP Redfearn, Samuel 21 (Blk) s/o Sam & Silva) to Effie Davis 18 (Blk) d/o Jackson & Edie December 29, 1898 - Rev. Isom Lytle Redfearn, Sarah 20 (Blk) d/o Watt & ____ to Andrew Levister - 22 (Blk) s/o Bill Levister & Linsey McBride - Dec. 27, 1899 Rev. Isom Lytle Redfern, Sarah Ann 19 - (Blk) d/o (Jno & Della) to John McBride - 21 (Blk) s/o Bill Levister & Linsey McBride Dec. 27, 1899 Rev. Isom Lytle Redfearn, Silva (Blk) to Samuel Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced about 14 years ago - Taken August 31, 1866 by F. L. Wiatt, JP Redfearn, Temperance (Blk) to Wilson Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced Oct. 1, 1862 - Taken August 28, 1866 by I. W. Hamilton, JP Redfearn, Wilson (Blk) to Temperance Redfearn (Blk) Cohabitation commenced Oct. 1, 1862 - Taken August 29, 1866 by I. W. Hamilton, JP Redfearn, Wincie 24 (Blk) parents not given to Sam Rivers 35 (Blk) s/o Primus & Sorena April 18, 1897 by J. D. A. Secrest, JP Redfearn, Zintha (Blk) to Wiley Cason (Blk) married under licenses November 9, 1866 by J. E. Huntley, JP Redfearn, Chas. to Lender - Cohabitation commenced about January 1855 - Taken August 1866/ I hope this will be of some help to you. ---------- > From: MS IDA M THOMAS <EAYM28A@prodigy.com> > To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCUNION-L] REDFEARN > Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 8:35 AM > > Andrew Redfearn b 1838/d.1925 in Union Co. buried at Philadelphia > Baptist Church Cemetery(Black). Andrew married Sarah Rorie. Andrew > & Sarah had a daughter Eliza b.1878/d. 1931 in Union Co. Eliza > married Mr. Pearl Rushing b.1880/d.1936 in Union Co. Eliza & Pearl > had six daughters: Emma, Ella, Mary, Wilma, Nellie & Bessie (my > grandmother). > > I am seeking information on the Redfearn line of this tree. Who was > Andrews'' father? I know his mother's name was Harriet. Were they > slaves? If so who were they're owners? They all seem to have lived > in Marshville at some point. Did Andrew and Sarah have more children? > If so who were they? Did Union Co. record early marriage records > for African Americans? If so were can these records be located. Any > help with these questions or information about any of the above is > appreciated. > > ____ > Ida Thomas > eaym28a@prodigy.com > Maze0516@aol.com > > Researching The Three R's > REDFEARN, RUSHING & RORIE > These are Gods People...The Kings of Kings

Chris: Have you been in contact with Ira Helms who is doing extensive research on the Helms family along with Gary Helms? His e-mail address is IraHelms@aol.com. Also, Harold Polk is working with Ira on the Helms and Polk lines. Harold's hpolk@vopmail.x-press.net and I am sure that both would like to "chat" with you. Anne

Just thought I would show my connections to the Helms line. If anyone would like to exchange info on these families listed, please email me. Chris Reeder Florence, SC http://creeder.taylordata.com/ John Isaac Helms +Ann Tilghman ..George Helms ..+Mary Margaret faulkenburg ....Isaac Helms ....+Nancy Agnes Laney ......Gabriel W. Helms ......+Rhonda Elizabeth Williams ........Teletha Helms 91 ........+Daniel Milas Price ..........Emeline Price ..........+Josiah Baucom ............John Culpepper Baucom ............+Malona Adamantine Whitley ..............Carrie Mae Baucom ..............+Worley Evander Pressley ................Erma Pauline Pressley ................+Henry DeWitt Reeder ..................Ralph Lynn Reeder ..................+Margie Ree Allen ....................Christopher Lynn Reeder ....................+Susanne Pamela Holladay ....Jacob Helms 164 ....+Sarah Helms ......Gabriel B. Helms ......+Elizabeth Keziah ........Agnes A. Helms ........+Milas R. Pressley ..........John Wesley Pressley ..........+Sarah Emmaline Price ............Worley Evander Pressley ............+Carrie Mae Baucom ................Erma Pauline Pressley ................+Henry DeWitt Reeder ..................Ralph Lynn Reeder ..................+Margie Ree Allen ....................Christopher Lynn Reeder ....................+Susanne Pamela Holladay ....Phoebe Helms 149 ....+Charles Polk ......George Washington Polk ......+Margaret Garmon ........Tabitha P. Polk ........+Jacob K. Long ..........William Stanhope Long ..........+Henrietta Arminta Estridge ............Hattie Dora Long ............+Henry Samuel Reeder ..............Henry DeWitt Reeder ..............+Erma Pauline Pressley ................Ralph Lynn Reeder ................+Margie Ree Allen ..................Christopher Lynn Reeder ..................+Susanne Pamela Holladay ..Tilman Helms ..+Rachel Craig ....Sarah Helms 165 ....+Jacob Helms ......Gabriel B. Helms ......+Elizabeth Keziah ........Agnes A. Helms ........+Milas R. Pressley ..........John Wesley Pressley ..........+Sarah Emmaline Price ............Worley Evander Pressley ............+Carrie Mae Baucom ................Erma Pauline Pressley ................+Henry DeWitt Reeder ..................Ralph Lynn Reeder ..................+Margie Ree Allen ....................Christopher Lynn Reeder ....................+Susanne Pamela Holladay

Andrew Redfearn b 1838/d.1925 in Union Co. buried at Philadelphia Baptist Church Cemetery(Black). Andrew married Sarah Rorie. Andrew & Sarah had a daughter Eliza b.1878/d. 1931 in Union Co. Eliza married Mr. Pearl Rushing b.1880/d.1936 in Union Co. Eliza & Pearl had six daughters: Emma, Ella, Mary, Wilma, Nellie & Bessie (my grandmother). I am seeking information on the Redfearn line of this tree. Who was Andrews'' father? I know his mother's name was Harriet. Were they slaves? If so who were they're owners? They all seem to have lived in Marshville at some point. Did Andrew and Sarah have more children? If so who were they? Did Union Co. record early marriage records for African Americans? If so were can these records be located. Any help with these questions or information about any of the above is appreciated. ____ Ida Thomas eaym28a@prodigy.com Maze0516@aol.com Researching The Three R's REDFEARN, RUSHING & RORIE These are Gods People...The Kings of Kings