Dawn, Good for you. Joy

Just tried to web page at http://creeder.taylordata.com/helm.htm and I must have copied it wrong... Please resend the address.... thanks. dawn

Thank You Sandra... those are my Kings. Most appreciated. dawn in AZ

I could post it on my site... I will put it out in a few minutes... the address will be http://creeder.taylordata.com/helms.htm WARNING... Please inform of any changes that need to be made. WARNING#2.. This will be HUGE and will prodably take a while to download. Chris Reeder Florence, SC -----Original Message----- From: Doug Norwood [mailto:DOUG_NORWOOD@prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 8:32 PM To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCUNION-L] HELMS gedcom To be sure, anyone with roots in or around Union County has a Helms or two somewhere along the way. Could this GEDCOM just be posted to a Web Page somewhere so that it could be accessed at will? Doug Norwood -----Original Message----- From: Eugene W. Helms <ehelms@airmail.net> To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com <NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 6:44 PM Subject: [NCUNION-L] HELMS gedcom >I hate to prolong this thread indefinitely, but I too would really like to have the HELMS gedcom file that was mentioned. >Perhaps as a Helms researching the Helms line, I can be forgiven for asking. (grin). >My Sampson D. Helms was born in Mecklenburg (now Union) County in 1824, parentage uncertain. > >Gene Helms >Dallas, TX > ______________________________

>4 May 1999 16:09:08 -0400 > "Karen Ghant Hulvey wrote: >Okay, the obvious question: which 3 states DIDN'T you "visit"??? Karen, I've never been in North or South Dakota nor Montana. Neither have I visited Puerto Rico, Guam, or the Virgin Islands. I have been to Wake Island, Hawaii, Alaska etc. I was born in Tennessee and have also lived in Kentucky, Alabama, Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina, New Mexico, and Texas (El Paso and Texarkana so I covered both sides). Work or vacation travel has taken me to every other state where I've spent from a few days to a few months. db

Greetings folks, I was born and raised in Winston-Salem NC, but have settled in Dover DE. It is interesting to see where everyone is living that is doing Union County research. My research centers around the GODFREY family and the Waxhaw Baptist Church. I've been fortunate to meet several new found cousins through this list, and trust I'll meet more. Can you believe I lived in Mint Hill for a year, but that was before I got the Genealogy bug? All that information so close, and didn't have a clue! Later, Phil Brown

I'm way out in Oregon, but ancestors were all around the mountains of NC, VA, TN, GA, and SC. Trying to connect my STARNES's to those of Union Co. through John STARNS/STARNES who married Sarah Jane ADAMS and moved to Hawkins Co., TN, about 1800. Anyone help? Charles Ed Starnes

I have lived in Union County all my life and can't think of a finer place to be. I enjoy my travels, but always glad to come home. -----Original Message----- From: Mr. Make Believe <Demon_@webtv.net> To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com <NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 3:49 PM Subject: [NCUNION-L] local residents how many people on this mailing list actually live in Union County???

Raaiders@aol.com wrote: > > I'm in Redding, CA > > Jeannie Phifer > PHIFER, COX, PARKER, BROOM, BURGESS (just for starters) Hi, I'm in California too researching Union County. My ggrandmother's first husband (she married three times) was Hurley Pfifer. He died or something happened before 1869 because she (Mary Melissa Pfifer Harrell Holmes) married her second husband. Hurley and Mary had one child that I know of Nancy J. Pfifer b. 1865. Any connections? Mary Roseville, CA

I am Ken Eason. I live in Union County, NC as did my parents. Most of my line was in Union County when it was formed. I am not a Helms descendent, however, I have cousins, aunts and uncles in various greatness that have married into the Helms line. I saw someone's message a few days ago that they were in Union County Arkansas. They were descendents of the Haney's that moved from Union County, NC to Union County AK. I am a descendent of the Haney's that stayed behind. William "Billy" Spears Haney is my 3rd great-grandfather. His daughter Elizabeth Haney married Thomas Lee Eason. At the time of Elizabeth's death in 1906 their son John Eason was living in Union County, AK. This according to the Estate Papers of Elizabeth Haney Eason. John Eason died on October 29, 1945 in Union County, NC. Death certificate shows him as a widower. We have no record of any marriage or children. To the person in Union County, AK. Do you have any record of this person. I think it might be possible that he may have lived with his mothers family there. Thanks. Contact me at Keason@ibm.net Ken Eason

In a message dated 5/4/99 4:06:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ANNEMEDLIN@aol.com writes: << I live in Maryland, was born in Horry County, SC, but grew up in Mebane, NC and graduated from college in Red Springs, NC. Both my parents were from Mecklenburg and Union Counties. My father, MEDLIN, was born and raised in Mint Hill/Monroe/Goose Creek. We have researched all of our family lines from there, except that of my mother's side - WILLIAMS - which is very hard to do. I have some data, but have yet to get into the DUNCAN, CROWELL (I have received extensive data but have not gotten through it all as yet), BIVENS (also received lots of data), and KISIAH families yet. I have visited Monroe twice for delving into records and have been helped so much by THE HERITAGE ROOM. The Monroe Public Library also has lots of books on families and genealogical data. Everyone there is so helpful and nice. Other family lines are: CUTHBERTSON, BROOM, RUSSELL, GINGLES, MORRISON, SIMPSON, BENTON, CONDER, ORR, GRIFFIN, HELMS, SECREST, PRESLAR/PRESSLEY, TRULL, WHITLEY, DEBERRY, and WISE. Anne Medlin Sendgikoski >> Hi Anne, I was born on Hamlet NC raised in Lumberton {about 25 miles from Red Springs} Had two 3rd cousins that were teachers there and am kin to some Morrisions from Robeson Co. {The teachers were Morrisons}. In 1962 I moved to Horry County. Myrtle Beach to be exact. I married a man that was born and raised near Wampee SC. I havent started researching his family yet. Maybe we have os information we could share. Ellen Causey TueTweety@AOL.COM

Anne, The lines you mention as those you are researching is interesting and includes at least four lines of my wife's: Williams, Cuthbertson, Broom, and Griffin. Her Williams line descends from Joseph Williams, (1737-1826) who migrated to the Wingate area prior to 1800 from eastern N.C.; his son Lemuel Williams (1789-1883) who married Rhoda Elizabeth Cuthbertson. She traces her Griffin line to Ollin Griffin (1806-187?) who was married to Olsie Broom. Do you have any information on the parents of Rhoda Cuthbertson, the parents of Ollin Griffin, and those of Olsie Broom? I hope I have not asked you this before, but I may have; if so, I apoligize. Thanks, Jim Smith ANNEMEDLIN@aol.com wrote: > I live in Maryland, was born in Horry County, SC, but grew up in Mebane, NC > and graduated from college in Red Springs, NC. Both my parents were from > Mecklenburg and Union Counties. My father, MEDLIN, was born and raised in > Mint Hill/Monroe/Goose Creek. We have researched all of our family lines > from there, except that of my mother's side - WILLIAMS - which is very hard > to do. I have some data, but have yet to get into the DUNCAN, CROWELL (I > have received extensive data but have not gotten through it all as yet), > BIVENS (also received lots of data), and KISIAH families yet. I have visited > Monroe twice for delving into records and have been helped so much by THE > HERITAGE ROOM. The Monroe Public Library also has lots of books on families > and genealogical data. Everyone there is so helpful and nice. > Other family lines are: CUTHBERTSON, BROOM, RUSSELL, GINGLES, > MORRISON, SIMPSON, BENTON, CONDER, ORR, GRIFFIN, HELMS, SECREST, > PRESLAR/PRESSLEY, TRULL, WHITLEY, DEBERRY, and WISE. > Anne Medlin Sendgikoski

Where is this cabin? Sounds Great! ---------- > From: MTomlin615@aol.com > To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCUNION-L] Re: Live in Union County > Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 8:27 AM > > > Just wondered if any of you Helms descendants would be interested in knowing > that there is a "Helms Haven" here in Union County. Mr. Helms, also a Laney > descendant, has made two cabins into museums. One cabin came from land owned > by Andrew Jackson, Sr. Some of the Laney family lived there at one time. The > family has done a GREAT job with this. They have one set up as it would have > been > back in the "olden" days, the other with everything imaginable displayed. > This has been one of the most interesting things we have seen since we moved > here from Tennessee in June of '98. The Helms family is very gracious. Mr. > Helms showed us around, telling the history of the buildings, how he and his > family restored them, they > made the feather bed on the old bedstead, some of the clothes displayed were > his > mothers, etc. There was more than could be seen and appreciated in the short > time we had to visit. We could have easily spent the day there. > > Hope this was of some interest to someone, it certainly was to us! >

Chris: We, too, have ties to the Helms family and could use a copy of the Gedcom. If possible, please E-Mail it to mailto:junercc@home.com. We visited your Web Page and enjoyed it. Thanks a lot. June & Reese Carrington, Colleyville, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Reeder <creeder@taylordata.com> To: <NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 8:55 AM Subject: [NCUNION-L] HELMS and other families > I connect to the Helms family three different ways (if that is something to > be proud of???). I could put a web site up with all my Helms info if I had > everyone's permission (But I don't). I have entered in info from tons of > people from this list as well as the Helms book. I have a gedcom with tons > of Union families. If anyone is interested, I may can see what I have. > Names primarily researching are Reeder, Pressley, Baucom, Long, Estridge, > Ferguson, Lee, Polk, Garmon, Helms, Price, Blackmon, Whitley, Presson, > Simpson, Ogburn, Kater/Catoe, Keziah, Shelby, Curlee, Medlin, Rainwaters, > Robards, Brannon, Williams, Cagle, DeBerry, McCollum, Morton, Taylor, Knox, > Faulkenbury, Craig, Laney, Welch, Strickland, Allen, Millstead, Jones, > Holladay, Corbett, James, and Edwards. Most of these families can be found > in the following counties: Chesterfield Co., SC; Lancaster Co., SC; Union > Co., NC; Mecklenburg Co., NC; Cabarrus Co., NC; Anson Co., NC; Covington > Co., AL; Coffee Co., AL; and Pike Co., AL. I would enjoy hearing from anyone > researching in these families. Please visit my website at > http://creeder.taylordata.com/ <http://creeder.taylordata.com/> Y'all can > see my direct ancestors and how I am related to the families mentioned > above. > > Thanks, > Chris Reeder > Florence, SC >

Okay, the obvious question: which 3 states DIDN'T you "visit"??? -----Original Message----- From: DBaker04@aol.com <DBaker04@aol.com> To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com <NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 4:05 PM Subject: [NCUNION-L] Re: NCUNION-D Digest V99 #92 >I don't live in Union County, although I did travel through there once. My >ancestors, the Bakers and Lowthorpes left the Lanes Creek area of Union/Anson >County by about 1870 and most moved to Tennessee. Having a devil of a time >unraveling all that went on the first few years after the WAR. People >disappeared. Land changed hands without records. Folks must have died and >no records of when nor where, but I keep asking and searching and many of you >have been incredibly generous with your time and information. > >BTW, I've chosen to live in Huntsville, Alabama after a military career which >had me living in or temporarily "visiting" 47 of the 50 states and >territories and 18 or so foreign countries. >db >

Barb, I am interested in any Secrest information you have. I know Ephriam Secrest married Elizabeth Drucilla Helms. I would appreciate any information concerning the Secrests. Sandra Secrest Glenn

I looked in my records and there is J.G. King buried at Oak Grove J.G. King 8/22/1838 6/5/1904 J.H. King 3/23/1862 12/22/1912 These are the only Kings listed at this cemetery I hope this helps. I found a Rev H.D. King at Bethlehem Cemetery 10/27/1805----5/15/1906 Sandra

I live in Virginia. I was raised in Iredell County, then moved to Virginia through many job transfers. My mother's grandparents were from the New Salem, Union County area. -----Original Message----- From: Mr. Make Believe [mailto:Demon_@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 6:47 PM To: NCUNION-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCUNION-L] local residents how many people on this mailing list actually live in Union County???

Anne, You must get with me when you get to "KEZIAH" is how we spelled it. My great grandmother Mary Jane Keziah b. 1859 Union Co., NC d/o Thomas Allison Keziah and Elizabeth Shelby who is a Trull descendant. I also have Presley, which I have just had confirmed last week. I have Hargett's, Brooms and Helms. I also have Skipper from Rockingham to Union Co. This is my father's side of the family. He still lives in Charlotte, rather Mint Hill now. In fact, just near him are two streets that are parallel to each other named Keziah and Hargett. He is probably living on ancestral land.....Medlin's married many times into the families I listed. Good luck. Looking forward to hearing from you on the Keziah's. You probably have more than I. Joy Skipper Hinson

There are no Henson, Hudson, Lee or Campbell surnames in the database. As an aside, I have just realized that this file does not really contain as many Helms as I had thought . . . there are as many Secrests. It is a small file, but if I can be of further help with it, will be happy to. Barb NCUNION-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Part 1.1 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.2 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.3 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.4 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.5 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.6 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.7 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.8 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.9 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.10 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.11 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.12 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.13 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.14 Type: message/rfc822 > > Part 1.15 Type: message/rfc822