I had such wonderful response of people interested in this Document i accidentally post to the Brooks mailing list instead of my Brooks Research group *Smile* that i put it on a page for everyone to see http://www.angelfire.com/tx2/brooks/brooks.html I was going to just link you to jimmy Swaim Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/9157/ but i noticed his link is broken to this document but i am sure he will have it fixed in a few days so please be sure to check out his page he has alot of wonderful Swaim information. If you have any connection or think you might have any please post it to the list there are several that are interested in the information Evelyn Brooks Long