Hello <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/ad_container/pop.html?cuid=10201&keywords=none" >Ruffin Family </A> The Ruffin Family link above is Virginia Crilley' s site - [email protected] She is a really nice lady. HAPPY BELATED <A HREF="http://www.scotclans.com/clans/truthven.htm">Clan Ruthven Tartan </A> DAY APRIL 6TH, 1999 There are actually e-greetings for Tartan Day... I saw it while hunting for an Easter & Birthday Greeting. <A HREF="http://www.scotclans.com/cdrom/clanscd.htm">the clans and tartans of scotland </A> <A HREF="http://www.scotclans.com/clans/ruthven.htm">Clan Ruthven </A> <A HREF="http://www.scotclans.com/clans/cruthven.htm">Clan Ruthven - Crest </A> After I began this research a few months ago...My mother was looking at my laundry and commented "I know you must be Scottish with all these Red Plaid Flannel Shirts and Tartan Plaid Skirts and Plaid Dresses" Weird hungh? must be DNA!!! <A HREF="http://www.infopls.com/ce5/CE045155.html">Ruthven</A> This RUTHVEN site says 2 sons were murdered...so how did William of Isle of Wight get here? Mentions a collateral line of Ruthvens. Jon & Pams page has....tons of other links to click on...I made a full circle tonight. <A HREF="http://home.regent.edu/ruthven/ruthhome.html">Jon and Pam Ruthven's Home Page </A>this is one of the sites that I found the info about the Beheading (of a Ruthven, who I thought was my Grandfather) by <A HREF="http://www.scotclans.com/clans/1542m.htm">Mary, Queen of Scots born 1542 </A> and also <A HREF="http://scots.net/timeline_1500.htm">Timeline for Scotland during the 1500's </A> see 1566 March 12, Riccio murdered by Ruthven. Here is more on the <A HREF="http://www.scotclans.com/clans/1582.htm">The Ruthven Raid 1582</A>. This historical<A HREF="http://scots.net/timeline.htm">Timeline for the Scotland during Royal Stuart Dynasty </A> explains it ALL. Patrick Ruffin & Carol Martocia wrote me below about a Ruthven myth created by Edmund Ruffin ( *--Check him out) ...Pefidious <A HREF="aol://4344:345.mwd50402.1779033.479678193"> perfidious (adjective) </A> !!!!Yankees. <A HREF="http://ruffinflag.com/lastwrds.html">Edmund Ruffin's Famous Last Words -- The Last Great Act of Defiance... </A> and these are links for Evelynton <A HREF="http://www.williamsburg.com/plant/evelynton.html">Williamsburg Online - Evelynton Plantation </A> and this one also tells about Crazy Edmund firing the first shot of the Civil War... <A HREF="http://www.jamesriverplantations.org/jamesriverplantations.org/evelynton .html">http://www.jamesriverplantations.org/jamesriverplantations.org/evelynto n.html </A> ...I have always known I have a bad temper when I get angry and now I don't feel so dysfunctional knowing that I have found a fellow relative that was more irritable than me : ) What a relief.. I had reservations to take my mother to a TEA & TOUR of Evelynton, 2 days after Christmas...but we had a bad ice storm and it was cancelled because of damage. I look forward to going in the future and writing you all about it. Patrick Ruffin [email protected] (PATRICK S J RUFFIN) Dale, I forget if I directly e-mailed you or not regarding the Ruthven- Ruffin connection, but it has been pretty much put to rest. It has been determined that William Ruffin came from England, possibly Sussex County; that is, his parents were English. When William arrived in Virginia, he was an eighteen-year-old commoner who signed his name with an X. On the other hand, following generations became prominent Virginians, among them Edmund, who fired the first shot that hit Fort Sumter, the first shot of the Civil War. Patrick and Carol Martocia [email protected] (CAROL MARTOCIA) Dale, I am a descendant of the Sheriff Samuel Ruffin and Sarah McWilliams. I am afraid that those of us on the Ruffin list have disproved the old Ruthven story as a myth probably started by Edmund Ruffin in his many writings. The Ruffin Archives on the web have all the earlier stuff that the mailing list covered and Virginia has posted the Wills whatever else she could get folks to send in. There is a Ruffin web page also. Ruffin archives: <A HREF="http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl">http://searches.root sweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl </A> Ruffin webpage: <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/ad_container/pop.html?cuid=10201&keywords=none" >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/6276/index.html </A> Here is more on the Ruthven Barracks <A HREF="http://www.newtonmore.com/history/ruthven.htm">Ruthven Barracks - Kingussie, Badenoch and Strathspey </A> and if you want to take a holiday you can stay at the <A HREF="http://aboutscotland.co.uk/ecosse/lynaberach/index.html">Highland Scotland rentals on Lynaberach amd Ruthven Estate </A> <A HREF="http://data.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?DB=GEDIND&DATABASEID=3105&DB=GE DIND&F0=RUTHVEN&F1=&PROX=2&fh=0">Ancestry World Tree Results </A> what an absolute headache. Since the time I began my search in November of 1998...this site has changed...luckily I wrote down my results where I kept clicking back and back and back...but for some reason...some of the info is missing...It appears that a females name ~ the mother is showing up where the fathers name should appear. I compared this info with <A HREF="http://www.tartans.com/cgi-bin/whoami.cgi/display/wwwd/whoami?alias=e899 358682">Who Am I? </A> site and it matches <A HREF="http://www.tartans.com/whoami/whoami.initial.html">Your Ancestors</A> you can click back on these folks too...FUN. So who is the father of the William Ruffin in Isle of Wight, VA. please someone send me a link to tell me how this Ruffin is or isn't related to the above Scots. Here is a letter from another relative in response to a previous post I made. Hi Cousin Dale, This is great stuff! My cousin traced our family tree several years ago and for the past few months I have been adding bits here and there through the internet. Her research stopped with William Ruthven/Ruffin born in 1617 in Scotland. I saw a source somewhere that said he was born in Great Britain in 1617. I have been reading today that the Ruthven Raid occured in 1582 so James would have been 16. A William was born abt.1594 and Patrick was born abt. 1597. King James visited the house of Ruthven after having accused Alexander Ruthven of sleeping with his wife. Alexander was found with his sword unsheathed and his brother was stabbed in the back. When James took the throne in England, he tried to have both the younger brothers arrested from school in Cambridge, but William escaped to France and then to Virginia where he changed his name to Ruffin. Patrick spent 22 years in prison. This would have occured in the early 1600's. Did William return to Great Britain to have his son William? This is all so exciting! Also, where can I find the lineage to Robert the Bruce and back to Norway? I have been reading up on him, too, and that is very interesting. <A HREF="http://www.robert-the-bruce.com/">robert-the-bruce.com</A> http://www.robert-the-bruce.com/ Thanks for the information so far and any more you can provide. Greg Gay <A HREF="http://www.tartans.com/whoami/whoami.initial.html">Your Ancestors</A> <A HREF="http://www.tartans.com/cgi-bin/whoami.cgi/display/wwwd/whoami?alias=e899 358682">Who Am I? </A> ...Greg...I like these two a lot better than ancestry.com ~~~~~~~~~~~I know you are so relieved...That's all folks~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <A HREF="http://www.tamaris.demon.co.uk/celts.htm">A Celtic Timeline</A> ...and with this last link...I'm off to dreamland...