I recently spent a week in Stokes and Surry Counties researching my Cloud ancestors and looking for various sites. I was in old Westfield three times but could not find the Westfield Monthly Meeting house. Is it still standing? Also, is there a local resident with access to the surviving meeting records? I am trying to find a record of the marriage of Joseph Cloud to Rachel Jessop. Ray Shirley > [Original Message] > From: <hdalecook@aol.com> > To: <ncsurry@rootsweb.com> > Date: 11/7/2007 1:05:44 AM > Subject: Re: [NCSURRY] Quaker records > > > I have an interesting web site?http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers/westfield.htm?that may clear up one one the mysteries of Surry Quaker meeting houses. The author, Luther Byrd, was my Westfield High School principle and a historian. Westfield HS is no longer?in existence. Sandy Cook, one of the donors of the land for Westfield?Friends Church is my?g grandfather.?He lived adjacent to the Church. As a youngster I can remember multi-denominational funerals?and burial services?at the Church and graveyard. The graveyard is one of the oldest in what is now Surry County. Some of the headstones were crude rough hewn rocks.? > > The?Quaker Churches were called meeting places, as were most churches?prior to the Revolution. To be an official church there had to be two formal services conducted by an English Angelican Minister annually, thus meeting places.? > > Microfilm copies of Hinshaw's indices can be found at any LDS research center. I went through?all of Hinshaw's?info on NC, SC and some Tn meeting houses looking for my?Cook and Cain relatives.?There were numerous?Quaker Cooks, however the Quaker naming patterns?did not match my Scotch-Irish descendents. Sandy Cook?(5th American generation) was the first of my descendents to became a Quaker.? > > I don't recall a Beaver Creek?or Dam, however Tom's Creek is about 1?mile from the Church.?The Church is located about?10 miles south of the NC-VA line. > > Dale Cook?? > > -----Original Message----- > From: BenbowKD@aol.com > To: ncsurry@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 4:55 am > Subject: Re: [NCSURRY] Quaker records > > > > There were many areas in NC counties named Beaver Dam or Beaver Creek, so > you might have to pinpoint the location more than that. Research the land > grants and deeds. Find out exactly which rivers and streams were nearby, and > what neighbors they had and what rivers and creeks those deeds mention, and > then > try to determine the exact neighborhood. > > In working with Quaker ancestors, one detail that is often overlooked is the > fact that the Hinshaw abstracts contain the records out of the Monthly > Meetings only, which is where business and vital records were kept. The > member's > local (weekly) meeting, or Preparatory Meeting, may have been quite some > distance away from the supervising MM, so people did not necessarily live in > the > vicinity of the MM. Hence, at times some families' records could vary from > one MM to another, because they may have switched attending one local > preparatory meeting with another PM that was also relatively nearby, but which > was > under another MM. And sometimes the PM's would change their affiliations, > thereby causing the business and vital records to shift back and forth from one > > MM to another without the family changing their weekly practice. It's similar > to people changing county jurisdictions without moving one inch. > > Also, it is good to keep in mind that Hinshaw's workers did not abstract all > minutes of all meetings. And a lot of things that might interest the > descendants were left out of the abstracts. Order the microfilm into your > local > Family History Center library for viewing. > > Katherine Benbow > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a booklet compiled by Luther Byrd back in the 1960s or early 1970s, he lists Rachel Jessop, born June 21, 1776, probably in Perquimans County, NC. She married Joseph Cloud sometime between 1796 and 1805, but did not give a location. Luther says she was a daughter of Joseph JESSOP and someone named Priscilla and was disowned for marrying out of unity. His book says they reportedly were from Perquimans or Carteret counties and then Guilford County, and finally settled in Westfield in Surry County in 1785 or 1786. Joseph Jessup left a will that was probated November 1796 while his wife, Priscilla left a will that was probated in February 1819. I have this data due to me getting a copy of the JESSOP (JESSUP) family history from my aunt who married a JESSUP from Stokes County. Problem is, although I scanned the hand-typed pages, and have them mostly converted to Word, they are not in a database file such as FamilyTreeMaker so it's hard to search for connections. Luther also did a booklet on the FULK family that I was able to get converted as well. Have no idea how many other books or pamphlets he created, but his work is a treasure. Bob Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "RAYMOND SHIRLEY SR." <rshirley@icx.net> To: <ncsurry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [NCSURRY] Quaker records >I recently spent a week in Stokes and Surry Counties researching my Cloud > ancestors and looking for various sites. I was in old Westfield three > times but could not find the Westfield Monthly Meeting house. Is it still > standing? Also, is there a local resident with access to the surviving > meeting records? I am trying to find a record of the marriage of Joseph > Cloud to Rachel Jessop. > Ray Shirley > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: <hdalecook@aol.com> >> To: <ncsurry@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 11/7/2007 1:05:44 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCSURRY] Quaker records >> >> >> I have an interesting web > site?http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers/westfield.htm?that may clear up one > one the mysteries of Surry Quaker meeting houses. The author, Luther Byrd, > was my Westfield High School principle and a historian. Westfield HS is no > longer?in existence. Sandy Cook, one of the donors of the land for > Westfield?Friends Church is my?g grandfather.?He lived adjacent to the > Church. As a youngster I can remember multi-denominational funerals?and > burial services?at the Church and graveyard. The graveyard is one of the > oldest in what is now Surry County. Some of the headstones were crude > rough > hewn rocks.? >> >> The?Quaker Churches were called meeting places, as were most > churches?prior to the Revolution. To be an official church there had to be > two formal services conducted by an English Angelican Minister annually, > thus meeting places.? >> >> Microfilm copies of Hinshaw's indices can be found at any LDS research > center. I went through?all of Hinshaw's?info on NC, SC and some Tn meeting > houses looking for my?Cook and Cain relatives.?There were numerous?Quaker > Cooks, however the Quaker naming patterns?did not match my Scotch-Irish > descendents. Sandy Cook?(5th American generation) was the first of my > descendents to became a Quaker.? >> >> I don't recall a Beaver Creek?or Dam, however Tom's Creek is about 1?mile > from the Church.?The Church is located about?10 miles south of the NC-VA > line. >> >> Dale Cook?? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BenbowKD@aol.com >> To: ncsurry@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 4:55 am >> Subject: Re: [NCSURRY] Quaker records >> >> >> >> There were many areas in NC counties named Beaver Dam or Beaver Creek, > so >> you might have to pinpoint the location more than that. Research the > land >> grants and deeds. Find out exactly which rivers and streams were > nearby, and >> what neighbors they had and what rivers and creeks those deeds mention, > and >> then >> try to determine the exact neighborhood. >> >> In working with Quaker ancestors, one detail that is often overlooked is > the >> fact that the Hinshaw abstracts contain the records out of the Monthly >> Meetings only, which is where business and vital records were kept. The >> member's >> local (weekly) meeting, or Preparatory Meeting, may have been quite some >> distance away from the supervising MM, so people did not necessarily > live in >> the >> vicinity of the MM. Hence, at times some families' records could vary > from >> one MM to another, because they may have switched attending one local >> preparatory meeting with another PM that was also relatively nearby, but > which >> was >> under another MM. And sometimes the PM's would change their > affiliations, >> thereby causing the business and vital records to shift back and forth > from one >> >> MM to another without the family changing their weekly practice. It's > similar >> to people changing county jurisdictions without moving one inch. >> >> Also, it is good to keep in mind that Hinshaw's workers did not abstract > all >> minutes of all meetings. And a lot of things that might interest the >> descendants were left out of the abstracts. Order the microfilm into > your >> local >> Family History Center library for viewing. >> >> Katherine Benbow >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of >> the message >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message