Hi, all, I posted this to the LEWIS list in response to a communication by Gene Lewis. Anyone out there in Surryland have documentation on Elkanah LEWIS Jr. marrying, 1799, a Ruth SMITH?? Any other documentation on Lemuel LEWIS (son of Elkanah Jr.) other than his marrying, 1827, Valinda POE? And on his daughter, Nancy Lewis POE, who married Alvis/Alphius POE? Anything on the other children of Elkanah Jr., reportedly Phoebe, Lucinda, Mary, Polly, and Elkanah, Jr. (sic: III)? (I do know that both Lemuel LEWIS & Alvis POE were deceased by 1850. Any will documentation out there?) Gene & everyone, The Elkanah Lewis that married in 1799 and had a son, Lemuel, was Elkanah JR. His father patented land in 1778 (not 1798.) And a number of other documents absolutely prove that there were two Elkanahs. Look at the dates and persons in the documentation below. --- I tend to go more for seeing what documentation I personally can actually find that proves facts about persons, rather than relying on older family histories or older research (although many family histories state facts later proven by further research to be absolutely correct.) Here is part of what I am trying to explain to you regarding Elkanah Sr. & Elkanah Jr. Note that both Elkanah Sr. & Jr were both literate (at least enough to sign their own names.) There is no way that there was only one Elkanah---they were father & son. Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- Records extracted & compiled by: Pamela Stone Ross pamstone@cfl.rr.com 362 North Brevard Avenue Cocoa Beach, FL 32931-2936 --- Extracted from: ABSHER, Mrs. W. O. [Ruby T.]: Surry County, North Carolina Records of Deeds; Copyright, 1981, by R. T. Absher; Published, 1975?, by R. T. Absher, North Wilkesboro, NC - Deed Books A & B = 1770-1783 Deed Book C = 1777-1788 - p. 56: Dtd. 13 Oct 1783 Surry Co., NC Deed Book B, pp. 333-334 STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA Grant to John FRANKLIN, 200 acres on a branch of Frees Creek [Fries, Frys, Freeze]; agreed line of Elkanah LEWIS. - p. 50: Surry Co., NC Deed Book B, p. 276 Grant dtd. 13 Oct 1783 State of North Carolina Grant to Michael TEEGE [Teague], 450 acres [on] BASHAVA Creek [Bushava, Bechewa, Bathsheba, Barshavia Creek] adjoining KRUGER [Cruger, Crugar], SHORE [Shores], Henry SHORE; agreed line with Elkanah LEWIS. ------------------------------------------------------------- Extracted from: LINN, Jo White: Surry Co., North Carolina, Will Abstracts, Vols. 1-3, 1771 - 1827; Indexed by Edith Montcalm Clark; Copyright,1974, by Jo White Linn; Published by Mrs. Stahle Linn, Jr., Salisbury, NC, USA --- p. 47: 2 Jan 1783; Recorded May Court 1783 Surry Co., NC Will Book 2, p. 11a Will of Henry WALLER. Wife Sarah to have all lands & living until the children are raised and then divided betwixt my 3 sons: Jacob, Adam, Henry. Wits.: James SHORT (E his mark), Elkanah LEWIS --------------------------------------------------------------- Extracted from: SNOW, Carol Leonard: Surry County, North Carolina Deed Abstracts, Volumes G & H, 1795-1800; Copyright, 1996, by C.L. Snow; Published, 1996, by C & L Publications, Toast, NC, USA --- p. 55: Surry Co., NC Deed Book H, 1797-1800, p. 13 Deed Dtd. 26 Dec 1795 Elkanah LEWIS, Senr. of Surry to James FRANKLIN of Surry. For 30 pounds, 125 acres on the South Fork of Mitchell River adjoining Benjamin HERENTON [HERNDON] and William WATTS. [Signed] Elkanah Lewis {Seal} Wits.: John WILLIAMS, Elkanah LEWIS [Junr.] Proved in Surry Co. [Court] November Term 1797 by John WILLIAMS and ordered to be registered. Test Jo WILLIAMS, C C. --- p. 102: Surry County Deed Book I, p. 542 Deed dtd. 4 July 1802 Elkanah LEWIS Senr. to Elkanah LEWIS Junr. For and in consideration of a certain sum (amount not given), 125 acres on the South Fork of the Mitchell River, it being part of a tract of land Granted to Benjamin HERNDON adjoining Peter PERSON and James FRANKLIN. [Signed] Elkanah Lewis {Seal} - [The "certain sum" was probably the traditional 5 shillings normally mentioned in what were actually deeds of gift.---PSR] --------------------------------------------------------------- SNOW, Carol Leonard: Surry Co., NC Deed Abstracts, Vols. K & L, 1803-1808; Copyright, 1995, by C. L. Snow; Published, 1995, by C & L Historical Publications, Toast, North Carolina, USA - p. 71: Surry County, North Carolina Deeds, Vols. K-L, N, 1803-1818, p. 396 Deed dtd. 12 Jan 1804; Proved February Court, 1805 Elkanah LEWIS to Silas HARRIS, for 100 dollars, 100 acres on Straw Bridges Creek, to the line of Robert HOLBROOK. Signed: Elkanah Lewis Wits.: William Lewis FRANKLIN, Robert HOLBROOK -------------------------------------------------------------- [END OF POSTING] ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gene13717@aol.com> To: <LEWIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [LEWIS] NC, Surry: Elkanah LEWISes/WALLER/FRANKLIN Pam: (Helen) Jane Lewis Chapin, a direct descendant of the Huntington, NY Lewis's wrote about 1900 that Elkanah LEWIS m. Feb 13, 1799 Ruth Smith. This would tend to support his birthday being around 1775 in Huntington, which is what I have. We also have the same information that Lemuel LEWIS b. 1800 was the son of Elkanah LEWIS. Since only Pioneer Lewis Families states that a Elkanah LEWIS, Jr. was the son of Elkanah LEWIS, Sr., without giving birth dates for either, maybe there was only one Elkanah LEWIS instead of two. It would certainly make your information fit my information. Also, I have no information about a family for an Elkanah LEWIS, Jr. The only odd thing that remains is that you say that Elkanah LEWIS was in the household of Elkanah LEWIS in 1790 along with another son. Of course, the 1790 Census gives no names but only statistics. If Lemuel was the other son, then the problem goes away. What do you think? By the way, you say that you would like to know more of John Lewis of Westerly. He was my immigrant ancestor, born abt 1631 in England / Wales and coming to the New World about 1656. A biography would fill many pages. He was one of a small number of the original settlers of Westerly, RI. Gene ==== LEWIS Mailing List ==== Has it been awile since you last sent a message to our LEWIS list? Remember! A quiet LEWIS surname list can't help out anyone at all. ==============================