Hi, everyone, I am hoping someone out there has some further documentation on the family of Elkanah LEWIS (Sr.) of Surry/Stokes Co., NC, and can clarify relationships between the Lewises, Wallers, and assorted Franklins. I have heard a lot of information on Elkanah Lewis Sr.'s children, but have seen little or no documentation for most of them. Here is what I have seen claimed: Daniel WOOLF married a daughter of Elkanah's named Magdalena (and it is true that a Daniel WOLFE was located near Elkanah Sr. on a couple of censuses---but there was more than one Daniel WOLFE.) Elkanah is said to have had a son named Frederick Lewis, and another named Elkanah Jr. There is evidence that does prove that Elkanah had a son of the same name; Elkanah Jr. supposedly married either Mahala ROSS ( dau. of John), or Mahala RIGGS (dau. of Lott.) Anyone have an actual record or abstraction of Elkanah Jr.'s marriage? And there was a Frederick Lewis in the area, but does anyone have any proof whose son this Frederick was? Who did he marry? Who were his children? There is strong suggestion in documents that I have collected that my Sarah "Sallie" Lewis may have also have been Elkanah's daughter (she married John Franklin {ca. 1753-1832.}) There is also a suggestion that Elkanah may have had a daughter, Ruth, that married James Franklin (it is not clear what relationship there may have been between James and my John, but there is certainly an implication that they were somehow related...though not brothers, I don't think. [Our John appears to have considerably older than James, and James' apparent brothers?, Malekiah, Walter, and Owen.]) What I have found in actual documents shows that: Elkanah Lewis patented land in 1778 on the south fork of Mitchell River in the Mitchell River Community (this land is now in Surry Co., but at that time the land was officially in Wilkes Co., and that is where this grant was recorded.) (There also appears to have been a William Lewis in the area, but I have not found enough evidence on him to determine if he and Elkanah were closely-related or not. However, it is certain that there was another William Lewis in Stokes/Surry that was NOT William Terrell Lewis--- this other man was illiterate.) Sometime before 1783, Elkanah also patented land on Frees/Fries Creek, then in Surry, later in Stokes Co., and now located in Forsyth Co., NC, at the central, extreme eastern Yadkin Co. line. (Have not found record of this patent yet---anyone out there have it?) In 1780, Henry WALLER patented land on Frees Creek. In 1783, John FRANKLIN patented land on Frees Creek---adjacent the line of Elkanah LEWIS. On the same day in 1783, Michael TEAGUE patented land on Bashava Creek [Bushava, Bechewa, Bathsheba, Barshavia Creek] adjoining KRUGER, Henry SHORE, and the agreed line with Elkanah LEWIS. (John FRANKLIN witnessed one deed during 1785, and signed with his own name rather than a mark. He was listed as a juror in 1784, and then replaced the same year [you had to be a landowner during this period to vote or perform public service.] John Franklin was listed as insolvent in Capt. LOVILL's Dist. in 1785, with 100 acres & 1 poll. I'm not certain if any of this referred to my own John Franklin, or to an older or contemporary one who was recorded in Stokes Co. in 1790.) Henry WALLER had purchased items at the 1775 estate sale of Tyree GLENN in Surry Co. Henry left his will in 1783 in Surry, naming his wife, Sarah, and minor children, Jacob, Adam & Henry. Witnesses to the will were Henry Waller's neighbor (and possible relation?), James SHORT, and Elkanah LEWIS. James SHORT and Elkanah LEWIS also posted bond as Sarah's securities the same year for her to administer Henry's estate. The inventory of Henry WALLER's estate was taken by James SHORT & Elkanah LEWIS. In 1785, Sarah Waller was recorded on the Tax List of Capt. Lovill's District with 350 acres, and Jacob WALLER was listed with no land but with 1 poll. Jacob Waller sold a third portion of his father's land in 1793 to Adam BUTNER in Stokes Co. In 1789, the man we certainly know to be our John Franklin purchased land from Peter MURPHY in the Mitchell River Community in what is now Surry Co. In 1790, Elkanah Lewis Sr. was recorded between James and John Franklin there, with Elkanah listed as Elias (it was definitely him, as he was recorded with 3 males over the age of 16 at that time.) Sarah & Jacob WALLER were listed in Stokes Co. in 1790, living next door to the "other" John Franklin, and Malekiah & Walter Franklin, and later in the same area, Owen Franklin (both Malekiah & Walter later moved to Surrry Co., and lived close to my John Franklin---they appear to have been much younger than my John.) Elkanah LEWIS Sr. sold land to James FRANKLIN in 1795; the land was lying on the south fork of Mitchell River adjoining Benjamin HERNDON. In 1802, Elkanah LEWIS Sr. sold to Elkanah LEWIS Jr. a tract of land lying on the south fork of the Mitchell River, and adjoining the lands of Peter PERSON and James FRANKLIN. In 1804, Elkanah LEWIS sold to my Silas HARRIS a tract of land on Strawbridges' Creek adjacent Robert HOLBROOK. Witnesses to the deed were Robert HOLBROOK, and William Lewis FRANKLIN (the son of our John & Sarah "Sallie" Lewis Franklin.) (Silas HARRIS had married John & Sarah Lewis Franklin's daughter, Edith "Eada" Franklin in 1801.) By 1800, our John Franklin was aged over 45, with one son. By 1810, John was over 45, and his son was listed as aged 16-25. In the same neighborhood was his son-in-law, our Silas HARRIS; Walter FRANKLIN, Daniel WOLF, Aaron WRIGHT, and a widowed Mary LEWIS (whom I think was the widow of Elkanah Sr.? She may have been his 2nd wife, as she had young children in 1810.) Anyone have anything that helps document these LEWIS, WLLER & FRANKLIN lines? Look forward to any and all help in trying to sort out these people! Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com

Below is a copy of the Welborn will that Perry requested. Will book 4 page 276 Will of Richard WELBORN. My body is to be buried on my land. Wife: Susanna Daus: Sarah, Righter Cook, Mary Creed, Jane Williams, Temperance Williams, Lucinda Gentry Sons: Robert, Thomas -----Original Message----- From: percreed@adelphia.net [mailto:percreed@adelphia.net] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:14 PM To: NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Welborn Will I deleted an email from Surry list that had to do with a Will of Welborn and one for Creed. Could the person that sent it re list, or better net contact me. Thanks Perry ______________________________

Would there be any one on the list that has access to Surry County Tax Lists? I am interested in a Ruth Webb and a William Webb of Surry County that were listed in 1782. William Webb b. 1748/49 was originally from Northumberland Co., VA. He came into Surry County sometime between 1783 and 1780 with an older brother John Webb b. 1747 and younger sister Sarah Webb-Wilkins b. 1751. I am researching John Webb in particular as I have strong evidence that he is my 4th G-Grandfather. I am curious as to what this Ruth Webb in 1782 was being taxed on and if she may tie into this group of Webb's in any way. Any help would be most appreciated. Regards, Bill Webb

Surry Will Book 4 page 102 Will of Jesse HOWARD, Nuncupative. Reeves asked the above departed, Jesse Howard what part he wanted Elena to have-an equal part? No--but 1/2 share of the other children. Spoken 17 Dec 1835, he died about midnight. Micajah Reeves and James Howard Witness Will book 4 page 258 will of john CARTER Written this day of Oct 1846. Wife: Nancy Dau: Elizabeth Carter, negroes Charlott and Isaac wife nancy, negroes Jesse, George, nance, Alex, Clary, Harry Grandson William Ray DOSS, s/o John Doss and my du Louisanna, negro girl Tilda All my children: Thomas, William, Isaac, Hugh, Elizabeth and John Kennedy Carter, Dicy Hurt w/o Joel Hurt, Sealy Woodruff w/o Allen P Woodruff, Thursa M Williams s/o John R Williams. Probated Nov 1846 Will book 4 page 276 Will of Richard WELBORN. My body is to be buried on my land. Wife: Susanna Daus: Sarah, Righter Cook, Mary Creed, Jane Williams, Temperance Williams, Lucinda Gentry Sons: Robert, Thomas Will of John Creed 14 Feb 1832 Wife: Mary Children: dau-Jestin; son Jerrerson are the only two named in the wil. He does mention his other children., but does not name ..Stand ye in the ways and see and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. Jeremiah 6:16

I deleted an email from Surry list that had to do with a Will of Welborn and one for Creed. Could the person that sent it re list, or better net contact me. Thanks Perry

Hello, I am trying to verify the deaths of 3 direct ancestors that died in Surry County, North Carolina. Is there anyone that can verify these deaths using available sources: 1) Henry Clinton Bray, died 01-28-1866 2) Martha Milner Poindexter Bray, died 07-22-1872 3) Louisa "Lou" Poindexter Bray, died 12-15-1893 1 is my 4th great-grandfather 2 is my 4th great-grandmother 3 is my 3rd great-grandmother They all died in Surry County. I got the information from an internet source, which is not always reliable. Any help in verifying these deaths is greatly appreciated. Sincerely, V. Mark Bray Boiling Springs, SC

There is reference to an Isham webb who was the son of William. This Isham Webb married Anne Farmer on 25 Oct 1770jin Goochland Co Va, then settled in Patrick Co His will is probated in 1799 in Patrick. There is a sketch on the Webbs in John Perry Alderman's book CARROLL 1765-1815, THE SETTLEMENTS. A map in the book shows William WEbbs land on Stony Creek not far from the Surry Co line. If you think this is your family let me know and I will try to scan the pages for you Lucinda PS the children named in William Webb's deed are Isham, Nancy, Elizabeth w/o Daniel Carlan, Molly Ann Hazelwood (she was married to a Quillen prior to marriage to Hazelwood, Morning w/o Martin Doyal.. Morning Webb died in Logan Co KY. William Webb is thought to have married Morning Pruitt d/o Andrew Pruitt. Isham Webb in his will mentions a son Isham, 3 daughters not named in will. The identity of the daughters in found in one the deeds and shown Nancy Tally w/oSpencer TAlly, Hannah w/o Martin Tally, and Patsey w/o James Carlan. All deeds are in Patrick Co. ....Stand ye in the ways and see and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. Jeremiah 6:16 ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Webb" <wmwebb4313@sbcglobal.net> To: <NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:33 PM Subject: [NCSurry] RE: Webb's in late 1700's and 1800's > Mary, > > I can be of help to you. My Webb's were in Surry County possibly as early > as 1773. They came from Northumberland Co., VA. They were John Webb (my > 4th G-Grandfather) and his brother William and sister Sarah Webb-Wilkins. > They all resided in the NE corner of Surry, not far from the Rockingham > County line and the Virginia line. The marriage record of Susannah Parr and > John Webb in December 1804 is either a 2nd marriage of John Webb mentioned > above or a first marriage of John Webb, 1st son of William. From the > evidence I have, I tend to believe it is the older John Webb. > > I also have information on the William and Isham Webb of Henry and Patrick > Counties. > > I'll be glad to help and share in any way I can. > > Bill Webb > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gen42 [mailto:gen42@comcast.net] > Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 2:14 PM > To: NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Webb's in late 1700's and 1800's > > I am looking for Webb's in Surry Co. NC who may have come from or gone to > the Patrick or Henry Co. VA. area. > > Any Webb names during that time will be appreciated. > Thanks. > Mary > > ______________________________ > > > > ==== NCSURRY Mailing List ==== > Surry Co, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.geocities.com/~surryco/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Could this John Jones who married Nancy Webb have been Surety for an 1823 marriage in Patrick Co. Virginia, for Sylvester Webb and Rachel Thomas? Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Hurst" <wrhurst_17@msn.com> To: <NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [NCSurry] RE: Webb's in late 1700's and 1800's > Lucinda wrote: > >> >>There is reference to an Isham webb who was the son of William. This >>Isham >>Webb married Anne Farmer on 25 Oct 1770jin Goochland Co Va, then settled >>in >>Patrick Co His will is probated in 1799 in Patrick. There is a sketch on >>the Webbs in John Perry Alderman's book CARROLL 1765-1815, THE >>SETTLEMENTS. >>A map in the book shows William WEbbs land on Stony Creek not far from the >>Surry Co line. > >> >>PS the children named in William Webb's deed are Isham, Nancy, Elizabeth >>w/o >>Daniel Carlan, Molly Ann Hazelwood (she was married to a Quillen prior to >>marriage to Hazelwood, Morning w/o Martin Doyal.. Morning Webb died in >>Logan Co KY. >> >>William Webb is thought to have married Morning Pruitt d/o Andrew Pruitt. > > Nancy Webb, d/o William Webb and Mourning Pruitt Webb, and sister of > Isham, was my 4th great grandmother. She married John Jones; they had at > least 7 children. I'm descended from daughter Mary who married Hiram > Wills. All this is discussed in the Alderman book on Carroll County. Hiram > and Mary are buried just over the line on the old Wheeler property in > Wythe County. I've also found connections to several other Jones siblings. > > Bill Hurst > > > > ==== NCSURRY Mailing List ==== > Surry Co, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.geocities.com/~surryco/ > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Lucinda wrote: > >There is reference to an Isham webb who was the son of William. This Isham >Webb married Anne Farmer on 25 Oct 1770jin Goochland Co Va, then settled in >Patrick Co His will is probated in 1799 in Patrick. There is a sketch on >the Webbs in John Perry Alderman's book CARROLL 1765-1815, THE SETTLEMENTS. >A map in the book shows William WEbbs land on Stony Creek not far from the >Surry Co line. > >PS the children named in William Webb's deed are Isham, Nancy, Elizabeth >w/o >Daniel Carlan, Molly Ann Hazelwood (she was married to a Quillen prior to >marriage to Hazelwood, Morning w/o Martin Doyal.. Morning Webb died in >Logan Co KY. > >William Webb is thought to have married Morning Pruitt d/o Andrew Pruitt. Nancy Webb, d/o William Webb and Mourning Pruitt Webb, and sister of Isham, was my 4th great grandmother. She married John Jones; they had at least 7 children. I'm descended from daughter Mary who married Hiram Wills. All this is discussed in the Alderman book on Carroll County. Hiram and Mary are buried just over the line on the old Wheeler property in Wythe County. I've also found connections to several other Jones siblings. Bill Hurst

My Hood line that was in Surry Co., NC married in to the WEBB family in the mid 1850's in Carroll Co. Va across from Surry Co. They eventually ended up in Raleigh Co. WV. I have a book on the WEBB's found in Carroll Co. If I can be of any help let me know. Bev

I DON'T HAVE ANY WEBB'S IN MY LINE . BUT IF I SEE ANY I WILL BE GLAD TO HELP MARY GOOCH MY LINE ===PEELE , CREED, SMITH, &SNOW

Hello: If your Webb's ended up in Raleigh County, West Virginia, I'll try to help. Nyla CREED DePauk In a message dated 7/11/2006 2:35:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wmwebb4313@sbcglobal.net writes: Mary, I can be of help to you. My Webb's were in Surry County possibly as early as 1773. They came from Northumberland Co., VA. They were John Webb (my 4th G-Grandfather) and his brother William and sister Sarah Webb-Wilkins. They all resided in the NE corner of Surry, not far from the Rockingham County line and the Virginia line. The marriage record of Susannah Parr and John Webb in December 1804 is either a 2nd marriage of John Webb mentioned above or a first marriage of John Webb, 1st son of William. From the evidence I have, I tend to believe it is the older John Webb. I also have information on the William and Isham Webb of Henry and Patrick Counties. I'll be glad to help and share in any way I can. Bill Webb -----Original Message----- From: gen42 [mailto:gen42@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 2:14 PM To: NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Webb's in late 1700's and 1800's I am looking for Webb's in Surry Co. NC who may have come from or gone to the Patrick or Henry Co. VA. area. Any Webb names during that time will be appreciated. Thanks. Mary ______________________________

Mary, I can be of help to you. My Webb's were in Surry County possibly as early as 1773. They came from Northumberland Co., VA. They were John Webb (my 4th G-Grandfather) and his brother William and sister Sarah Webb-Wilkins. They all resided in the NE corner of Surry, not far from the Rockingham County line and the Virginia line. The marriage record of Susannah Parr and John Webb in December 1804 is either a 2nd marriage of John Webb mentioned above or a first marriage of John Webb, 1st son of William. From the evidence I have, I tend to believe it is the older John Webb. I also have information on the William and Isham Webb of Henry and Patrick Counties. I'll be glad to help and share in any way I can. Bill Webb -----Original Message----- From: gen42 [mailto:gen42@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 2:14 PM To: NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Webb's in late 1700's and 1800's I am looking for Webb's in Surry Co. NC who may have come from or gone to the Patrick or Henry Co. VA. area. Any Webb names during that time will be appreciated. Thanks. Mary ______________________________

ABSTRACTS OF WILLS, INVENTORIES AND ACCOUNTS, PATRICK COUNTY va 1791 TO 1823 has the following: 27 Sep 1798 Will of Isam Webb, weak in body.... Legatees: my beloced wife Ann the catttle, horses and hogs, all household furniture and the still during her lifetime. My eldest son William to have my gun My younger son Isam to have the blacksmith tolls and the still after his mothers decease and to pay four pounds each to the rest of the heirs. My three daughters to receive two certain pieces of land know as the "saw pit tract" and the "mill seat tract" joing Spencer Talley survey. Wit: Jeremiah Jadwin and Soloman Jadwin Ann Webb widow and relect Returned Jan court 1799 There are quite a few Webb marriges in Patrick for the 1800s can you give me some names, none in the 1700s, the earliest in the 1800s is for John Webb and Susanna Parr, Sur. Wm Parr, 20 Dec 1804 Lucinda ....Stand ye in the ways and see and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. Jeremiah 6:16 ----- Original Message ----- From: "gen42" <gen42@comcast.net> To: <NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: [NCSurry] Webb's in late 1700's and 1800's > I am looking for Webb's in Surry Co. NC who may have come from or gone to the Patrick or Henry Co. VA. area. > > Any Webb names during that time will be appreciated. > Thanks. > Mary > > > ==== NCSURRY Mailing List ==== > Surry Co, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.geocities.com/~surryco/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I am looking for Webb's in Surry Co. NC who may have come from or gone to the Patrick or Henry Co. VA. area. Any Webb names during that time will be appreciated. Thanks. Mary

The information below is forwarded to the list in case anyone is interested in attending and learning more about the Charlie Lawson tragedy. Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ------------------ Esther Johnson and Patrick Boyles will present a new Charlie Lawson Program July 19, 2006 at 7:00 PM at the Main Branch, Forsyth Co. Library downtown Winston Salem,N.C. on 5th Street, This meeting will be filmed for an up coming documentary. If anyone has any information you would like to share on the Lawson Family bring it that night. This meeting is FREE and everyone is invited. For more info. call 1-336-755-9462 or email epdj1@earthlink.net.

With the help of Wilma Hiatt and Perry Creed of Mt. Airy, have posted another family cemetery on-line at the following address. Just scroll down till you see the Doss Cemetery. Have also included some additional data in the notes section from my viewing of birth, marriage, and death records: http://www.genealogy.mountainscape.com/surrycousins/cemeteries.htm Bob Carter Greensboro, NC

Hi, everyone, I am trying so hard to comprehend how a LEWIS line (but NOT that of William Terrell Lewis, the famous one in Surry Co., NC) connects to our HARRIS & FRANKLIN lines in Surry Co., NC. What we know so far on our own line is this: John FRANKLIN married Sarah "Sallie" LEWIS of Oldtown [then in Surry Co., but now in Forsyth Co., NC.] We know that John Franklin was born between 1751 & 1759, and that Sarah was somewhat younger. John [aged bet. 70-79 om 1830] died in 1832, and Sarah died a couple of years after that "upwards of seventy years". They had children: Edith "Eada", Mediann, Sarah Vinia (Lavinia?), Leanna "Leah", William Lewis, Patience, Alcie D., and Charity Lucinda. Edith "Eada" Franklin, the oldest daughter of the above couple, married our Silas Harris in 1801 in Surry Co., NC. Elkanah Lewis [apparently Jr.] sold land to our Silas Harris in 1804 in Surry Co., NC. I know that Lemuel Lewis married Valinda Poe in 1827, and that Alphius/ Alves Poe married Nancy Lewis in 1828, both in Surry Co., NC... Does anyone have proof of the parents of any of these persons? Does anyone have any good documentation on the will of Elkanah Lewis, Sr.? Or anything more that might help identify our own Lewises? Any help or clues on where to next look will be appreciated. Thanks! Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com

I watched the CBS national news tonight and they have you vote on which story you want to see out of 3 they present. One of the stories you can vote on is in Mt. Airy. Here's the link if you want to vote http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/03/eveningnews/main1276706.shtml

Thanks, Bob, for sharing this. I enjoyed it! Virginia