Hi, I have a lot of information on Henry Watkins (Sr.) but not his spouse, Hannah JOHNSON (b. 1777) of (Surry) NC. According to ancestry.com, there are 14 Johnsons in 1790 (Surry) NC, namely: Archibald, Benja, Charles, Elsha, Isaac, Isaac, Jeffrey, John, John, John, John Junr, Joseph, Moses and Willaim. I am curious about my Johnson lineage and I have nothing to work on but I hope one of you have her parents & siblings in your family tree to help me. Let me hear from you. Thanks! Lois

Larry, did your Hair(e) family come from the Armagh area of Ireland? Marsha in WV LARRY HAYER wrote: >I have written a book on the Hair(e) family, some of whom settled in >Surry County. See >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccgs/newsletterandpublications.htm for more >information. > >Larry Hayer > > >

I have written a book on the Hair(e) family, some of whom settled in Surry County. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccgs/newsletterandpublications.htm for more information. Larry Hayer Cabarrus Genealogy Society

Hey Lucinda and Nancy, Thanks for a referral to my website and this cemetery is one I surveyed a couple of years ago. Over the last year, several of us in the Surry County Genealogical Association have been identifying cemeteries in Surry County. To date, we have over 230 of them and they include GPS location, directions on how to get there, name (if known including aliases), and other data. We haven't published the data yet, but are in the process of doing so sometime this fall. Unless plans change, we plan to publish the data on the web (including some photos) with free access and not publish a book. Hopefully, we'll be able to follow up later on with a survey of the occupants of each cemetery. As to Frost Snow (b. 8-29-1842, d. 5-14-1922) and Elizabeth Johnson (b.2-13-1847, d. 12-21-1910) are buried at Snow Hill Baptist Church which is just west of Dobson. Very peaceful country setting with an excellent view of the Blue Ridge mountains. The name of the church is from this line of SNOW which broke off from Union Cross Baptist Church many years ago. Can give you directions from Mt. Airy or Dobson if needed, or you can get driving directions from any location by using Google maps. Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lucinda Goad" <jgoad1@triad.rr.com> To: "Nancy Hendrickson" <nhendrickson@pobox.com>; <ncsurry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [NCSURRY] Surry County Cemeteries? >I know there are books at the community college library in Surry, but > can't remember which ones they have. Also check our this website of > Surry cemeteries, it is searchable > http://www.genealogy.mountainscape.com/surrycousins/ > Lucinda > > Nancy Hendrickson wrote: >> I'm traveling from San Diego to Surry County is about 2 weeks. I'm >> trying to locate the burial places for my Snow ancestors. Specifically >> I'm looking for Frost & Snow and his wife Elizabeth Johnson, as well as >> Frost & Snow, Jr., and his wife Elizabeth "Besty" Ballard. >> >> Does anyone have a cemetery book for Surry Co., that they'd be willing to >> do the look-ups in? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Nancy Hendrickson >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know there are books at the community college library in Surry, but can't remember which ones they have. Also check our this website of Surry cemeteries, it is searchable http://www.genealogy.mountainscape.com/surrycousins/ Lucinda Nancy Hendrickson wrote: > I'm traveling from San Diego to Surry County is about 2 weeks. I'm trying to locate the burial places for my Snow ancestors. Specifically I'm looking for Frost & Snow and his wife Elizabeth Johnson, as well as Frost & Snow, Jr., and his wife Elizabeth "Besty" Ballard. > > Does anyone have a cemetery book for Surry Co., that they'd be willing to do the look-ups in? > > Thanks, > > Nancy Hendrickson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I'm traveling from San Diego to Surry County is about 2 weeks. I'm trying to locate the burial places for my Snow ancestors. Specifically I'm looking for Frost & Snow and his wife Elizabeth Johnson, as well as Frost & Snow, Jr., and his wife Elizabeth "Besty" Ballard. Does anyone have a cemetery book for Surry Co., that they'd be willing to do the look-ups in? Thanks, Nancy Hendrickson

One problem in genealogy leads to another. First problem--I was trying to find out what records and films the Family History Library in Salt Lake City might have for Surry Co., NC, as I know I have seen some of the records at that Library and, indeed, have photocopied some of them. Imagine my amazement to find that the FHL on _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) does NOT have a PLACE listing for Surry Co., NC. Then I entered the search term Surry [alone] as I have other ancestors in colonial Surry Co., VA. No dice!!!! I wonder whether it is spelled Surrey, as for the county of the same name in England!!! From time to time, generally when I have been present in Salt Lake City, I have dropped a note in the suggestion box--or at the reference desk when I figure a knowledgeable professional is on duty--as to some problems with the catalog. This time, I suggest that the Surry Co. Genealogical Society make the contact themselves. Anyway, not being content with NO catalog entry, I decided to do a google.com search for Surry Co., North Carolina + history [or was it + genealogy] and found this website. _http://juliemorrison.com/surry/history.htm_ (http://juliemorrison.com/surry/history.htm) This is of interest to me because I am almost certain, based on preponderance of evidence, that I am descended from a Moravian lady. But there are other groups of families in and around this area who are of interest to me. I am fortunate in that my large metropolitan Family History Center has a complete set of the books compiled by Adelaide Fries and others many years ago. The journals kept by the Moravians should be of interest to all who had relatives or ancestors in that part of North Carolina, because there really journal entries about everyone with whom the Moravians had interface. It seems that a bookstore in Winston Salem has this set of books, or at least a description of them, and I have taken the liberty of copying their description. (Please excuse, but it should help spread the word that a reprint is probably underway.) The Moravians in North Carolina Fries, Adelaide L., et al., Records of the Moravians in North Carolina. North Carolina Historical Commission (and successors), Raleigh, 1922-2000. Twelve volumes — more than 6,700 pages — of translations and transcriptions of church diaries and other documents, spanning from the arrival of the first surveying party in 1752 to when the last church board switched from German to English in 1879. Practically a daily account of life in the North Carolina wilderness and then in the growing state, these volumes are a gold mine for family historians, adding flesh and blood to the bare bones of ancestors’ births, marriages, and deaths. The first 11 volumes are out of print and must be borrowed on an inter-library loan basis. Volume 12, spanning the Civil War years was published in 2000. Volume 13, covering Reconstruction (1867-1876), is scheduled to be published in 2003 by the North Carolina Division of Archives and History. I finally found the listing in the online Family History Library Catalog for this valuable set of books -- probably a title search, but before I lose it again, I have made notes: Vols 1-5 1752-1792 Film No. 1321198 Vols. 6-9 1793-1847 Film No. 132120 Vols. 10-11 1841-1879 Film No. 1321211 Each volume has a separate index. Happy hunting!!! Winston-Salem is now in Forsyth Co. If you suspect your people in North Carolina may have had Moravian connections, these books are for you. Each volume is indexed--but, of course, the index, will be at the end of the film!!!! E.W.Wallace who has a Moravian umpteen great-grandmother Here is the search term for the above set of books, which have been filmed. You might be able to order them from the FH Library in Salt Lake City.

Raleigh, NC Workshop - Nov. 3 & 4, 2006 The North Carolina Genealogical Society is sponsoring a two-day workshop, "Meeting Your Ancestor's Neighbors Over the Back Fence and in the Court Room", conducted by Helen F.M. Leary, J. Mark Lowe, and Ann Basnight. The workshop will be held Friday, Nov. 3 and Saturday Nov. 4, 2006, at Brier Creek Country Club, 9410 Club Hill Drive, Raleigh, NC. All three speakers are professional genealogists and lecturers. Helen F.M. Leary was editor and contributing author of "North Carolina Research: Genealogy and Local History." She is also Past-President of the Board for Certification of Genealogists. J. Mark Lowe is formerly Vice President of Development for the Federation of Genealogical Societies, Vice President of the Genealogical Speakers Guild and Past-President of the Southern Kentucky Genealogical Society. Ann Basnight has thirty years classroom teaching experience and is President of the North Carolina Genealogical Society. She was editor of the Tyrrell County Genealogy & Historical Society Journal and President of Beaufort County Genealogical Society. Lectures scheduled for Friday, Nov. 3: "My Taxes Were Due When? (Using Delinquent Tax Lists and Release Books)" - Lowe "Spotlight on the Neighbors: What They Can Tell Us and How to Ask" - Leary "Backtracking – From Present Residence to Former Address" - Leary "Wonder What’s Over the Mountain" - Lowe Lectures scheduled for Saturday, Nov. 4: "Colonial Court Day a Social Event" - Basnight "Nobody’s Daughter: A Case Study in Proving the Parentage of a Mysterious Married Woman" - Leary "Following a Case Through Court" - Lowe The registration fee includes lunch. Walk-ins are welcome; however workshop packets may not be available. A map showing the location of the workshop may be found at http://www.mapquest.com/ by plugging in the street address above. Details and registration information for this workshop are available by e-mail from info@ncgenealogy.org or on the World Wide Web at http://www.ncgenealogy.org/ by clicking on Calendar & Events on the left side of the page, then on the November Annual Meeting & Fall Workshop button.

Is anyone searching the Bartley Family of Surry and Alleghaney Counites? I am looking for info on Tamsey Bartley b. 5 Nov 1857 and died 15 Sep 1937 She lived with the Thomas N Dickens Family until her death. Apparently there may have been two Tamsey Bartleys in Surry/Alleghaney counties at the same time. Hickman Bartley was married to Tamsey Murphy, there is an unnamed female in the house age 2 on the 1860 Cesus for Hickman Bartley. I tried to find a death certificate for her but so far I have not been able to locate one for her. Any ideas or suggestions would be most helpful. Lucinda in NC

Hope this will help someone on the lists. Lindsey EDDES and Peninah WHITE 25 Sep 1854:Lindsey Eddes, age 25 yrs, 9months, 23 days single born in Surry Co NC, son of Thomas and Charity; Peninah White age 25 yrs 3 days, single born in Carroll Co VA and daughter of William and Nancy White; William White surety. Note on back of bond: Penina White23 Sep 1829, Wm White, Randloph County NC; Hannah White Randolph County NC. Married 26 Sep 1854 by Rev John Vaughan

Surry County Will Book 3 page 61 Will of STEPHEN LEWIS, of Kent Co Del, 3 Dec 1772, Proved 14 Aug 1772 Wife: Mary Joseph HOWELL who married my wife's dau. Mary to have negro boy Sam. John FRICHES, John THOMPSON, Joseph HOWELL, Sarah ALPTEGROVE. Stephen's widow Mary Abraham Creason 12 Nov 1795 Surry Court Minutes shows a deed from Mary Creson, Catherine Thompson, Tobias Furches, Isaac Upthegrove and Joseph Howell to isaac Upthegrove, proved by David Howell. ******************************************* Surry Will Book 3 page 31 Will of JOSEPH KENNEDY 13 Mar 1799, Prov. May 1799 Mentions his store, friend John WElch. Son Alexander under 21 to have slaves here and in Fayetteville, silver watch, shoe and knee buckles, gold sleeve buttons, horse and riding chair. Aunt: Catherine BOEA , wife of Marsham Boea of Cumberland county. Father: Donald KENNEDY SRof Fort William, North Britain, if still living. Exrs: Robert Donaldson and Hugh McLain of Fayetteville and William Dowling of Surry. William Dowling refused to qualify as exr. ****************************************** Surry Will Book 1 page 13 Will of LYDIA STEWART, of Rowan county, 11 Jan 1771. Land on south side of Yadkin River to be sold and proceeds to go to sons: David, Samuel, John and Isaiah Stewart. Granddau: Lydia, d/o David; son Benjamin ; Son John's dau Lydia. She was the widow of Samuel Stewart, his will is recorded in Rowan County Will Book A page 153. ************************************ Surry Will Book 1 page 24 Will of Nicholas EVANS, very sick. 18 Dec 1773 Wife: Ealee Mentions children, but only names son Thomas Nicholas Evans was in Rowan county by 1759 based onRowan taxlist. The 1859 taxlist also shows David, Thomas and Benjamin in the household of Nicholas. Thomas Evans was a cooper and fought in the battle of Moores Creek Bridge. *************************************** Surry Will Book 1 page 146 Will of WILLIAM SMITH 9 Nov 1780, Pro. May 1781 Wife; Elizabeth Sons: William, Samuel, Thomas, John Daus: Mary, Betty Ann, Susannah, Martha, Nancy and Sorlly. Surry Will Book 3 page 119 will of BENNETT SMITH 13 Apr 1816, Pro. May 1816 Wife: but does not name Children: Jacob, Sarah, John and Bennet. (son Bennet married Rebeckah Cotten 3 Oct 1829, Surry Co Surry Will Book 3 page 132 will of WILLIAM SMITH 27 Jul 1817 Wife: Elizabeth Children: John, Mary, Selah, Milly w/o John Smith, Nelly w/o James Muncus, James, Peyton, Catlett Surry will book 2 page 4 Will of JOSEPH SMITH, 25 Nov 1782 pro Feb 1783 Exr: wife does not name (but Martha Smith qualifed as executrix. Wife and 8 children, does not name

Lucinda, I have seen this line of William Houston Harris posted as the son of Robert Harris (d. 1806, Surry, NC.) That CANNOT be correct, as Robert's son of the same name had predeceased Robert Sr. before 1806 (when Robert wrote his will and mentioned the heirs of his son, Robert. I think the only child of Robert's child of the same name was Milly Harris, who was named as the granddaughter of Robert Sr.) I think I have information on this William Houston family in census records somewhere, but not quick-at-hand available right now. (But for sure, this William Houston was still in Surry Co., NC in 1850, and had a large family there at that time) I also have a couple of other Harrises in NW NC that I am really curious about: Champion Travis Harris first appeared in Surry Co., NC (don't know his exact location there, but in 1820, he was in Surry Co.) During the 1840's, however, he was in Wilkes Co., and his children attended school there. Then by 1850, he was again in Surry Co. Who are his ancestors? And all his descendants? The other Harris I am wondering about is Charles Harris. Charles Harris appears on no census at all for either Surry or Wilkes Co., NC, yet was the postmaster of the Trap Hill Post Office in 1747. He left, buried in a Wilkes Co., NC cemetery, two children, but then moved on to an unknown location. Who was this Charles, where did he move to, and did he have any children that survived him? All of this is so bewildering, isn't it? Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lucinda Goad" <jgoad1@triad.rr.com> To: <NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 4:54 PM Subject: [NCSurry] Another Surry County Harris Will abstract Surry Will Book 3 page 120 Will of ROBERT HARRIS, 1 Jan 1816, prob May 1816 Wife: Dicy Children: Patsey Childress, John Harris, Sethbabe Harris, Ethel Harris, nancy Harris, and William H Harris. Surry Marriage bond: Willaim H Harris to Elvina Davis 31 Jul 1839, B.T. Wall Bondsman ==== NCSURRY Mailing List ==== Surry Co, North Carolina NCGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/~surryco/ ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Teresa, Mourning Harris, dau of Robert and Lucretia you refer to, married William Burch about 1783. William was the son of William Henry Burch and Mary Ann Lawrence. He was born 10 May 1764 on Haw River (in Rowan county NC?) and died 17 Sept 1848 in Monroe county IN. He supposedly had a son named Bezeleel Burch. (As in Bezeleel Brown.) Sometime between Nov 1809 (father's will) and 1812, Mourning must have died as William married Elizabeth Ritter on 2 April 1812 in Surry NC. Now please note: All the above was provided by a Burch researcher and I have not proven any of the names, dates or places. I am researching my spouses Burch ancestors in Surry NC. They came from Lunenberg VA but do not seem to connect to this William Burch. Glenn Harris On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:09:48 -0700 (PDT) teresa stuart <lilliebelle3@yahoo.com> writes: > Hi Pam, > Thanks for the info. Do you know who Mourning Harris > Burch was married to? Robert Harris land was near my > Stewart family. There seem to be so many TYREE Harris > around, I wonder why? > I have a David, John and Joseph Harris in Pittsylvania > CO VA/Halifax VA. David named a son Tyree also and > this line moved to GA. This Harris line may be allied > with my Payne line from Pittsylvania CO VA (lived on > Cascade Creek with David Harris). David Payne and > brother Stephen moved to Henry/Patrick CO VA and also > had land in Surry CO NC. > Teresa Stuart de Rios > > --- Pam Stone <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > > Hi, everyone, > > > > The will of Robert Harris (wife was Lucretia Brown, > > daughter of Benjamin Brown) was recorded in 1809 > > in Surry Co., NC Deed Book 3, p. 93. This will, > > written 10 July 1806, and probated at November > > Court, 1809, names his children in the following > > order > > (which I assume was eldest to youngest): Elijah > > Harris > > (the land where I live; originally purchased > > from Robert Lanier.) Sons Tyree, Bezeleel Brown, > > Bernice and daughter Lucretia have already received > > 100 pounds of Virginia money out of my estate. My > > children Mourning BURCH, Nancy BOON, the heirs > > of my son Robert, Lucy HEAD, the heirs of Patsy > > TURNER > > (100 pounds Virginia money to each.) The heirs of > > Sarah BLACKWELL (50 pounds Virginia money.) > > My granddaughter, Milly HARRIS, horse, saddle, > > bed and furniture. The rest of the estate to be > > divided > > equally, "except for Elijah, who is to take no share > > but > > land given him". Executors: sons Elijah and > > Bezeleel > > Harris > > (Signed) Robert Harris > > > > Robert's land was on the Ararat River, which begins > > in Patrick Co., VA, runs into Surry Co. to the east > > of > > Mt. Airy, and continues southerly for about 20 miles > > from there. Elijah Harris married Carrie FORKNER. > > The Tyree Harris named in the will of his father, > > Robert, > > was Tyree Rodes Harris, who moved to Kentucky & > > wrote a famous history of this branch of this Harris > > family. Bezeleel Brown Harris was named for one of > > Lucretia Brown Harris' brothers (these Browns lived > > at Brown's Cove, VA, which, as I recall, was where > > Robert & Mourning Glenn Harris [Robert d. 1809's > > parents] lived for a number of years while he was > > the Surveyor of Louisa Co., VA.) > > > > That's all I can recall off the top of my head > > (about this > > particular Robert Harris.) > > > > Pam > > pamstone@cfl.rr.com

Hi Pam, Thanks for the info. Do you know who Mourning Harris Burch was married to? Robert Harris land was near my Stewart family. There seem to be so many TYREE Harris around, I wonder why? I have a David, John and Joseph Harris in Pittsylvania CO VA/Halifax VA. David named a son Tyree also and this line moved to GA. This Harris line may be allied with my Payne line from Pittsylvania CO VA (lived on Cascade Creek with David Harris). David Payne and brother Stephen moved to Henry/Patrick CO VA and also had land in Surry CO NC. Teresa Stuart de Rios --- Pam Stone <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Hi, everyone, > > The will of Robert Harris (wife was Lucretia Brown, > daughter of Benjamin Brown) was recorded in 1809 > in Surry Co., NC Deed Book 3, p. 93. This will, > written 10 July 1806, and probated at November > Court, 1809, names his children in the following > order > (which I assume was eldest to youngest): Elijah > Harris > (the land where I live; originally purchased > from Robert Lanier.) Sons Tyree, Bezeleel Brown, > Bernice and daughter Lucretia have already received > 100 pounds of Virginia money out of my estate. My > children Mourning BURCH, Nancy BOON, the heirs > of my son Robert, Lucy HEAD, the heirs of Patsy > TURNER > (100 pounds Virginia money to each.) The heirs of > Sarah BLACKWELL (50 pounds Virginia money.) > My granddaughter, Milly HARRIS, horse, saddle, > bed and furniture. The rest of the estate to be > divided > equally, "except for Elijah, who is to take no share > but > land given him". Executors: sons Elijah and > Bezeleel > Harris > (Signed) Robert Harris > > Robert's land was on the Ararat River, which begins > in Patrick Co., VA, runs into Surry Co. to the east > of > Mt. Airy, and continues southerly for about 20 miles > from there. Elijah Harris married Carrie FORKNER. > The Tyree Harris named in the will of his father, > Robert, > was Tyree Rodes Harris, who moved to Kentucky & > wrote a famous history of this branch of this Harris > family. Bezeleel Brown Harris was named for one of > Lucretia Brown Harris' brothers (these Browns lived > at Brown's Cove, VA, which, as I recall, was where > Robert & Mourning Glenn Harris [Robert d. 1809's > parents] lived for a number of years while he was > the Surveyor of Louisa Co., VA.) > > That's all I can recall off the top of my head > (about this > particular Robert Harris.) > > Pam > pamstone@cfl.rr.com > > > > ==== NCSURRY Mailing List ==== > Surry Co, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.geocities.com/~surryco/ > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about > your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Pam, Thanks for the info. Do you know who Mourning Harris Burch was married to? Robert Harris land was near my Stewart family. There seem to be so many TYREE Harris around, I wonder why? I have a David, John and Joseph Harris in Pittsylvania CO VA/Halifax VA. David named a son Tyree also and this line moved to GA. This Harris line may be allied with my Payne line from Pittsylvania CO VA (lived on Cascade Creek with David Harris). David Payne and brother Stephen moved to Henry/Patrick CO VA and also had land in Surry CO NC. Teresa Stuart de Rios --- Pam Stone <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Hi, everyone, > > The will of Robert Harris (wife was Lucretia Brown, > daughter of Benjamin Brown) was recorded in 1809 > in Surry Co., NC Deed Book 3, p. 93. This will, > written 10 July 1806, and probated at November > Court, 1809, names his children in the following > order > (which I assume was eldest to youngest): Elijah > Harris > (the land where I live; originally purchased > from Robert Lanier.) Sons Tyree, Bezeleel Brown, > Bernice and daughter Lucretia have already received > 100 pounds of Virginia money out of my estate. My > children Mourning BURCH, Nancy BOON, the heirs > of my son Robert, Lucy HEAD, the heirs of Patsy > TURNER > (100 pounds Virginia money to each.) The heirs of > Sarah BLACKWELL (50 pounds Virginia money.) > My granddaughter, Milly HARRIS, horse, saddle, > bed and furniture. The rest of the estate to be > divided > equally, "except for Elijah, who is to take no share > but > land given him". Executors: sons Elijah and > Bezeleel > Harris > (Signed) Robert Harris > > Robert's land was on the Ararat River, which begins > in Patrick Co., VA, runs into Surry Co. to the east > of > Mt. Airy, and continues southerly for about 20 miles > from there. Elijah Harris married Carrie FORKNER. > The Tyree Harris named in the will of his father, > Robert, > was Tyree Rodes Harris, who moved to Kentucky & > wrote a famous history of this branch of this Harris > family. Bezeleel Brown Harris was named for one of > Lucretia Brown Harris' brothers (these Browns lived > at Brown's Cove, VA, which, as I recall, was where > Robert & Mourning Glenn Harris [Robert d. 1809's > parents] lived for a number of years while he was > the Surveyor of Louisa Co., VA.) > > That's all I can recall off the top of my head > (about this > particular Robert Harris.) > > Pam > pamstone@cfl.rr.com > > > > ==== NCSURRY Mailing List ==== > Surry Co, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.geocities.com/~surryco/ > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about > your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi, everyone, The will of Robert Harris (wife was Lucretia Brown, daughter of Benjamin Brown) was recorded in 1809 in Surry Co., NC Deed Book 3, p. 93. This will, written 10 July 1806, and probated at November Court, 1809, names his children in the following order (which I assume was eldest to youngest): Elijah Harris (the land where I live; originally purchased from Robert Lanier.) Sons Tyree, Bezeleel Brown, Bernice and daughter Lucretia have already received 100 pounds of Virginia money out of my estate. My children Mourning BURCH, Nancy BOON, the heirs of my son Robert, Lucy HEAD, the heirs of Patsy TURNER (100 pounds Virginia money to each.) The heirs of Sarah BLACKWELL (50 pounds Virginia money.) My granddaughter, Milly HARRIS, horse, saddle, bed and furniture. The rest of the estate to be divided equally, "except for Elijah, who is to take no share but land given him". Executors: sons Elijah and Bezeleel Harris (Signed) Robert Harris Robert's land was on the Ararat River, which begins in Patrick Co., VA, runs into Surry Co. to the east of Mt. Airy, and continues southerly for about 20 miles from there. Elijah Harris married Carrie FORKNER. The Tyree Harris named in the will of his father, Robert, was Tyree Rodes Harris, who moved to Kentucky & wrote a famous history of this branch of this Harris family. Bezeleel Brown Harris was named for one of Lucretia Brown Harris' brothers (these Browns lived at Brown's Cove, VA, which, as I recall, was where Robert & Mourning Glenn Harris [Robert d. 1809's parents] lived for a number of years while he was the Surveyor of Louisa Co., VA.) That's all I can recall off the top of my head (about this particular Robert Harris.) Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com

Teresa & everyone, Robert Harris (d. 1809, Surry Co., NC) moved to Surry Co. straight from Albemarle Co., VA. He was the son of Robert & Mourning Glenn Harris of Louisa & Albemarle Cos., VA, the grandson of Capt. William & Temperance Overton Harris of New Kent Co., VA, and the great-grandson of Robert Harris of Ware Creek. So, technically, as my 1713 William Harris appears to have been a grandson of Robert Harris of Ware Creek (likely through a younger son?), my William and the Robert Harris that came to Surry, NC (and Robert's brother, Christopher's son, Dabney Harris, too) were of the same root family (though I doubt they were aware of that.) They didn ot come to Surry Co. together. My William came to Surry, NC straight from Culpeper Co., VA. Robert Harris of Albemarle Co., VA & Surry Co., NC, (whose daughter married David Blackwell,) was better-educated and a much more wealthy man than my William. (Dabney Harris was in Louisa Co., VA, and also in Augusta Co. in that state---he was also illiterate, as eldest sons often were in the pioneering days.) This area of North Carolina was still very much a wilderness when William Harris, and his friends, Thomas Walsh/Welsh/Welch and Thomas Grimsley moved from Culpeper, VA to Wilkes Co. (I have another ancestress who was killed in Wilkes Co. in 1794 in an Indian attack!) :-) Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "teresa stuart" <lilliebelle3@yahoo.com> To: "Pam Stone" <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [NCSurry] Names of waterways---and our William HARRIS (b. 1752) & his missing kids... Pam, Was your Harris family of VA to Surry CO NC assoc. or allied with David Blackwell in VA and Surry NC. David Blackwell came with his father in law who was a Harris from VA to Surry NC. Teresa Sturt de Rios --- Pam Stone <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > E. W., > > Great advice for all researchers to follow!

E. W., Great advice for all researchers to follow! Sometimes the names of the various waterways have "morphed" over the years, too, making it difficult to pinpoint exactly what creek or river your ancestor may have lived on. For instance, for more years than I care to think about, I have been searching for where, exactly, in Culpeper Co., VA my William Harris lived, and on whose land. I have discovered, after studying the landholders in the entire "Little Fork" area of that county, that what is now the Rappahannock River was, for many years in the late 1600's & 1700's, simply called the "North River", and that the Rapidan during the same period in history was called the "South River". And the northern section of the Rappahannock, beginning at the northern Little Fork area and running to the Fauquier Co. line was alternatively referred to as "Hedgeman's River," due to one Nicholas Hedgeman patenting land across the Rappahannock from the northern Little Fork area, in what is now Prince William Co. (This Nicholas and his sons had patented over 5,000 acres between 1715 & 1728.) One Internet site that has proven enormously helpful to me in discovering/correctly identifying historical places and waterways is the U. S. Geological Survey query site. You can find all kinds of valuable information there---including the exact location of waterways that may be called by another name in modern times. Also, historic church locations, and other valuable help. This site is found at: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=122:1:11535150717336944022 They constantly update this site with any historical information having a good source (and the sources are also cited.) By finding all of this out about the Rappahannock & Rapidan Rivers, I was finally able to identify who my Will Harris' ancestor was--- one William Harris of NEW KENT Co. patented 400 acres "on the North River" in 1713. This was a very early placement in what eventually became Culpeper (having evolved over the years from New Kent Co. to King & Queen Co., to Spotsylvania, then to Orange, and finally into Culpeper Co.) Our Will Harris, DNA tests have revealed, appears to have been descended from Robert Harris of Ware Creek (and nothing could possibly have surprised me more---unless it was reading our William Harris' pension application!) In this remote area, our Harrises must have been one of the first families; this land, as far as I can determine, was never sold but just passed down from father to son. And there is only one other document that I have found, so far, which indicates the 1713 William had a son of the same name (illiterate, probably due to the early, remote location of this family---probably no school until years and years later would be my guess.) Our William Harris appears likely to have had a brother named James who MAY have died of smallpox in 1782 (he was confined in isolation by the orders of the Church Wardens of St. Mark's Parish during that year. However, this James Harris may have also recovered and been in the Rev War in 1783. I don't know for certain.) This James appears to have had a son of the same name, underage and living in the household of Susannah Williams in the town of Culpeper in 1783. I believe this was the same James Harris that married Mary Brady in 1788 in Culpeper (Baptists.) A William Harris witnessed a 1763 deed in Culpeper Co. by signing his mark. This is the only document that I have found so far in Culpeper during this time period with any Harris name on it. That has to be our William's father. Our William was b. 1752, enlisted Jan., 1777 and fought the entire Rev War from Culpeper. After being in the Continental Line of Virginia for 3 years, he then joined the Culpeper Minute Men for the duration of the war, and was recorded in the Minute Men classes of 1781 with other men of his Little Fork neighborhood. William Harris moved to Surry Co. in 1786, then to Wilkes in 1787. Moved to Ashe Co., NC about 1797, and stayed there until about 1813. Then back to Wilkes Co., NC again, having never sold his land there, and added more to it by patent. He filed his pension application in 1819. He died 1848 in Wilkes Co. at the ripe old age of 96. He had five sons and five daughters, all born in North Carolina except the oldest, who was born in VA. Of the sons, we have only identified and proven the descendants of two of them: our end of this line is descended from William's eldest son, Silas Harris, b. 1775 (possibly William Silas, and called Silas to distinguish him from his father? As any southern researcher knows, there is a strong tradition of being known by one's middle name, so possibly Silas was named for his father...) The other son whose descendants we have traced was William Harris' youngest son, James Harris, b. 1799. Both of these sons remained in NW NC, but we are still missing three sons, names unknown. One was born about 1792, another was born about 1796, and the youngest son was born either in 1801 or 1802. They moved to some other place. Of the daughters, we know that we are missing the eldest, and that her likely given name would have been Sarah (after her mother.) She would have been born about 1786. Next, we know from the records, was a daughter named Mary, b. 1789 and never married (died in the mid-1820's.) Next daughter was Lucinda, who married Daniel Fields in Wilkes Co., with her father there. (Lucy was born in 1790.) Will had two other daughters, one born about 1795, and the other born about 1797, whose names we have not discovered so far. Silas Harris married Eada Franklin in Surry Co., NC; she was the daughter of John and Sarah Lewis Franklin of Surry Co. (Franklin given names we know of in this particular end of this Harris line were John Verdall, William Lewis, Alcy D., Midiann/ Medean/Meedy Ann, Sarah Lavinia "Viney", Leanna, Charity Lucinda, Temperance, and Patience.) Silas & Eada lived on the south fork of Mitchell River, where he died sometime between 1850 and 1860. They had six sons & five daughters that survived until adulthood. Of the daughters, we only have certainly proved the two youngest---Edith "Edie", b. about 1818, and Mary Candace, b. about 1824. We also believe that one of his daughters was Elizabeth Harris that married Bird Snow; their oldest son was Harris Snow. Elizabeth was born in 1813. Mary Candace Harris had five children (their father unknown.) Mary's children were William H., James Iredell (b. 1850, but shown on every census after that as having been born in 1851; d. ca. 1899, Ashe Co., NC,) Columbus H., Lettie Ann, and Ruffin W. F. Harris. Silas and Eada's sons were: William Lewis Harris, b. 1803 or 1804; d. 1898 in Alleghany Co., NC. His children were Henderson, James, Nancy, John D. Calvin, Elizabeth, and Charity Lucinda Harris. Joel Harris, b. 1803 or 1804 (twins??); d. aft. 1880, Surry Co., NC. His children were Elizabeth "Eliza", Thomas Norman, Edith, Lemuel Lewis, Temperance, John, Frances "Nancy", Mary Caroline, and Joseph Martin Harris. John Harris, b. 1807; d. between 1860 & 1870 in Surry Co., NC. His children were Alford/Alfred Lafayette (moved to Harlan Co., KY by 1870, and had a large family,) Sarah, and Columbus Haywood Harris. Ambrose Harris, b. 1809; d. after 1880 in Wilkes Co., NC? or possibly somewhere in Tennessee?. His children were Lucy J., Edith E. "Eada", Sarah "Sally", Phoebe, Elizabeth, William McDaniel "Daniel", and John W. or John M. W. Harris. James Harris, b. 1812; d. after 1880; never married (and living in 1880 with his sister, Mary Candace's sons, Columbus & Ruffin W. F., his status listed as "Uncle".) Squire Henderson Harris, b. 1817; d. after 1880, Wilkes Co., NC. His children were Martha, Daniel, John Verdall, Lodema, Sarah E. Caroline, Tennessee, James Shadrack, and Lucy J. Harris. ----- James Harris, son of William Harris and youngest brother of Silas Harris of Surry Co., was born 1799 in Ashe Co., NC. He married Frances "Franky" Fields in Wilkes Co., and his father lived with him for many years in Wilkes. James was still in Wilkes Co. in 1850, but by 1860, had moved to Surry Co. not too far from his brother Silas, where he lived for the next decade or so. James Harris died after 1880 in Ashe Co., NC; in 1880, he was living in the household of his son-in-law, William Richardson. The children of James Harris, son of William Harris were: William Harris, b. 1821; d. after 1880, Surry Co., NC. (He became a minister, and was highly- respected in Surry.) His children were: Martha Elizabeth, Frances Lodemia, James P., Mary L., William C., and Nancy C. Harris. John Harris, b. 1825; d. after 1865 & before 1870, Surry Co., NC. His children were Mary, Jane, Melia/Millia, Phebe, Elizabeth "Bettie", and Ellen Harris. Squire Harris, b. 1832; d. after 1880, Surry Co., NC. His children were Mary F., Tennessee, Ruffin, and Anna C. (Caroline?) Harris. (He was recorded as "Esquire Harris" in Surry in 1870.) Elizabeth Harris, b. 1835 (gravemarker shows b. 1827, but doesn't agree with census records of her); d. 1895, Wilkes Co., NC. She married William Richardson, son of John & Mary Richardson of Wilkes Co., NC; they had John Wesley, Celia Frances, Susannah, James Brady, and Noah Adam Asberry Richardson. The Richardsons stayed mainly in Ashe Co., but a part of the family had moved to Caldwell Co., NC by 1930. Elizabeth Harris Richardson is buried at Walnut Grove Cemetery in Wilkes Co. James W. Harris, b. 1838, d. unknown. He and his family remained in Surry Co. until sometime between 1870 and 1880, at which time they moved away to an undiscovered location. His children were Mediann, Ally or Alcy C., Sarah F., and Mary L. Harris. Noah Harris, b. 1842, Wilkes Co., NC; d. unknown. He was unmarried in 1870, and moved to an undiscovered location before 1880 (possibly with his older brother???) He was the twin of Frances Harris. (Could he have been Noah Adam or Noah Asberry Harris???) Frances "Franky" Harris, b. 1842, Wilkes Co., NC.. She never married; in 1880, she was living next door to her father & sister, Elizabeth Harris Richardson, in Terrell Caudill's household in Ashe Co., NC. Joseph Martin Harris, b. 1847, Wilkes Co., NC; d. after 1880, Ashe Co., NC. He was married twice, and had a stepdaughter in his 1880 household that was misrecorded as his daughter. His children with his first wife were Matilda E., Elisha C., and Stephen F. Harris. Mart's children with his second wife were at least Frances Elizabeth and Mahala Harris. I believe that both Elisha & Stephen F. Harris may have moved to Virginia. I don't believe that Stephen ever married, though. I'd love it if we could connect some of the missing parts of this big line back up to each other. Anyone hearing bells going off in their heads? Recognize some given-name patterns as being the same in your own Harris lines? Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hdanw@aol.com> To: <HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <MADKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:44 AM Subject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Some Harrises in Early Madison Co., KY This was part of my advice to one of the researches: If Warren [surname] is on the same watercourse as your particular Harris family, then the likelihood of a marriage of Harris & Warren bride such as you describe is pretty great. Grooms generally did not travel far to find their brides--too many unknowns, such as transportation, and getting home again without getting lost, scalped, or drowned!!!. I hope you are near an LDS family history center and have the time to borrow--and read--films of records of Madison Co., KY and any other place where your ancestors lived. ... Good luck!!! And may you have plenty of time to read microfilms. Not as much is on the internet, at least for Southerners, as one might hope!!!! And, if it is, check it against the original records, if at all possible. My Dad inherited some family histories, and, boy, are some of them flawed!!!! Much of what W. H. Miller wrote about the Oldhams is terribly flawed and should not be used as a source. E.W.Wallace This was some additional advice I gave the researcher. Ignore, if you wish. If you have never searched a deed index, the next time you have some spare minutes (and a parking place), go to your nearest courthouse and ask to see some of the deed indexes and learn something about them. The deeds, and their indexes, are generally open to the public [must be] and you will find all kinds of people searching them, particularly if oil and other mineral rights are being searched. Some of the title searchers have been very helpful to me. Not every county has the same kind of deed book, but, whatever format, reading them will help you get a grasp of what is included in the index alone--deeds of gift, powers of attorney, mortgages [to plant tobacco, for example], sheriff's sales [look under S]. The methods that has been drilled in my head by many lecturers is that prior to the paving of highways, you probably should take a look at the land holdings of everyone clustered on the same waterway. Many tax lists give the watercourse on which the land is located. For example, lots of people who settled in the area of Boonesborough (northern part of Madison Co.) have their land described as on Otter Creek--and other creeks in that area. If you see a deed, at least in Kentucky, which is labeled a commissioners deed, you MUST take a look at that deed--and maybe photocopy it. Why? Frequently, it involved distribution of real property after the death of the landholder--his children and in the case of females, their male spouses. If a woman with a different name is one of the signatories, she MAY be a widow but a daughter of the deceased. You can solve some problems that way. I have found some deeds where some of the heirs returned from places like Illinois and Missouri to complete the distribution of property. Needless, to say, I have solved many a genealogical problem by my reading (and collecting) deeds--and other land records, such as land patents in Virginia, as well as in Federal Land States. EWW ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam, I was just curious, as David Blackwell and William Easley were the securities on the admins. bond for my John Stewart SR`s estate in Surry CO NC. Abraham Hawks was the admins. I know David Blackwell had married a Harris and was wondering if your line was the same Harris line. Thanks, Teresa Stuart de Rios --- Pam Stone <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Teresa & everyone, > > Robert Harris (d. 1809, Surry Co., NC) moved to > Surry Co. > straight from Albemarle Co., VA. He was the son of > Robert & > Mourning Glenn Harris of Louisa & Albemarle Cos., > VA, > the grandson of Capt. William & Temperance Overton > Harris of New Kent Co., VA, and the great-grandson > of > Robert Harris of Ware Creek. > > So, technically, as my 1713 William Harris appears > to have been > a grandson of Robert Harris of Ware Creek (likely > through > a younger son?), my William and the Robert Harris > that came > to Surry, NC (and Robert's brother, Christopher's > son, > Dabney Harris, too) were of the same root family > (though I > doubt they were aware of that.) > > They didn ot come to Surry Co. together. My William > came to > Surry, NC straight from Culpeper Co., VA. > > Robert Harris of Albemarle Co., VA & Surry Co., NC, > (whose > daughter married David Blackwell,) was > better-educated and a > much more wealthy man than my William. (Dabney > Harris was in > Louisa Co., VA, and also in Augusta Co. in that > state---he was > also illiterate, as eldest sons often were in the > pioneering days.) > > This area of North Carolina was still very much a > wilderness > when William Harris, and his friends, Thomas > Walsh/Welsh/Welch > and Thomas Grimsley moved from Culpeper, VA to > Wilkes Co. > (I have another ancestress who was killed in Wilkes > Co. in 1794 > in an Indian attack!) > > :-) > > Pam > pamstone@cfl.rr.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "teresa stuart" <lilliebelle3@yahoo.com> > To: "Pam Stone" <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:52 AM > Subject: Re: [NCSurry] Names of waterways---and our > William HARRIS (b. 1752) > & his missing kids... > > > Pam, > Was your Harris family of VA to Surry CO NC assoc. > or > allied with David Blackwell in VA and Surry NC. > David > Blackwell came with his father in law who was a > Harris > from VA to Surry NC. > Teresa Sturt de Rios > > --- Pam Stone <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > > E. W., > > > > Great advice for all researchers to follow! > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

In my years of finding and visiting old cemeteries, I'd bet the graves with early 1800s burial dates are already deteriorated and have been lost to the effects of weather and vandalism. I've found a few, but they are rare protected from the elements. I occasionally find a few with DOB in the late 1700s and burial in the mid to late 1800s, but very few of those as well. Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald Powell" <iamachristian@frontiernet.net> To: <NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 4:07 PM Subject: [NCSurry] Specific Smith Individuals in Smith Family Cemetery > Hello Everyone: > > I have had several members of our mailing list ask me for names of the > Smiths I am looking for in the Smith Family Cemetery in Surry County, > North Carolina. > > Charles Smith (male) He was born on Sunday, August 30, 1730, in Albemarle > County, Virginia. He married Anne Mallory on Monday, March 18, 1754, in > Orange County, Virginia. He died on Friday, August 14, 1829, in Surry > County, North Carolina. He was buried in the Smith Family Cemetery in > Surry County, North Carolina. He was the son of Stephen Justephonius "J. > K." Smith, Sr., and Mary Hawkins. > > I do not know if his wife was buried in the Smith Family Cemetery so I am > including her: > > Anne Mallory (female) She was born on Friday, November 18, 1737, in Orange > County, Virginia. She married Charles Smith on Monday, March 18, 1754, in > Orange County, Virginia. She died on Tuesday, November 29, 1803, in Surry > County, North Carolina. The date and location of her burial are unknown. > She was the daughter of John Mallory and Anne Coyne. > > Four of their children died in Surry County and I am not sure whether they > were buried in the Smith Family Cemetery: > > Stephen K. Smith (male) He was born on Sunday, April 18, 1756, in Surry > County, North Carolina. He married Mary Unknown on Wednesday, October 08, > 1788, in Surry County, North Carolina. He died on Saturday, June 14, 1806, > in Surry County, North Carolina. > > > > Mary Smith (female) She was born on Friday, February 23, 1759, in Surry > County, North Carolina. She married William Y. Tucker on Sunday, December > 22, 1782. She died on Sunday, May 10, 1857, in the Town of Mt. Airy, Surry > County, North Carolina. > > Mallory Smith (male) He was born on Thursday, September 21, 1769, in Surry > County, North Carolina. He married Elizabeth Davis on Tuesday, December > 21, 1802. He died in 1839 in Surry County, North Carolina. > > Nancy Smith (female) She was born on Wednesday, October 30, 1776, in Surry > County, North Carolina. She married William Deathridge on Thursday, August > 18, 1803, in Surry County, North Carolina. She died on Sunday, July 15, > 1804, in Surry County, North Carolina. > > If anyone finds the location of the Smith Family Cemetery or a website, I > would really appreciate a listing of the persons buried there so I can > match it with other Smiths in my family tree to see if any other Smiths > were buried there. > > Again, I would like to thank you in advance for your help. > > In Christ, > > Ron Powell > > > > > ==== NCSURRY Mailing List ==== > Surry Co, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.geocities.com/~surryco/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx