The only STEWART's mentioned, even names that sounded close were residing in the HALLOWS of Surry County. HALLOWS (Surry County) ----------------------------- Wm SUART John STUART Sen. John STEWART jun. The "Hollows" or "Hallows" is a name given to the upland country in the vicinity of the present community of Mount Airy in Surry County, NC. It is the foothills of the beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains, but who named it is lost in legend. Because it was a fairly remote site, it became a haven for those who wanted to leave more civilized ways far behind, as well as for those who were eluding the law.( Please, By stating this I'm not implying anything) Gwenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "teresa stuart" <lilliebelle3@yahoo.com> To: <Ghorne@swfla.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:51 AM Subject: 1768 Rowan Co census > Hi Gwenn, > I am looking for any Stewart, Stuard, Steward etc. who > lived in Present day Surry CO NC. The more Northern > Surry CO area if possible. > Thanks so much for you time! > Teresa Stuart de Rios > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Yahoo! Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call > rates > (http://voice.yahoo.com)

Greetings, Surry Clan I will do look ups covers various counties of today, that was in Rowan County. Surry County what was called "Hallows" and Salisbury. Areas surrounding, and in Surry County Town Fork, Dan River and upper Dan River.(Guilford,Rockingham Stokes, & Surry) Yadkin and Muddy Creek Settlement(with Forsyth and Davidson Counties).. Bellows Creek (present Rockingham, Stokes and Forsyth Counties) William D. Kizzah, late Register of Deeds Rowan County, who allegedly had found the original list in the Wall of the old courthouse WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS INFORMATION (1768 taxables Rowan County) UNDER SEVERAL NAMES THEY LIST 1782 TAXABLES RELOCATING TO SURRY COUNTY. Some information states below the name that it is torn, sons are mentioned under their father's names and slaves are mentioned under some of the names. Not all names are listed This information was printed in "The North Carolina Genealogical Society Journal" ( Nov. 1983) Some information was taken form "Abstract of the Minutes of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions -Rowan County, North Carolina 1763-1774, Vol. II, by Jo White Linn, 1979 In 1971, William Perry Johnson published partial elements of Rowan County tax list of 1768 from abstracts drawn up William D. Kizzah, late register of deeds. Just give me a last name a first if you would like. I'll search and send. Gwenn

wife, Elizabeth (prob 2d wife only 40), children: Samuel C. 21, William 20, James 18, Malinda 16, Thomas 14, Anderson 12, Julia 10, Elizabeth 8, John 6, Sanford 5, and Leiw 5/12. Does anyone have data on this family? I believe he may be brother to my ancestor Abraham Haynes/Hanes bca1780-1784, married Lucy Haynes bca1784, ca 1810, either Rowan or Surry co NC. They are on the 1810 census. Abraham had land in area of Rockford/Marsh, Surry Co..Fishers Creek/River. He sold 150 acres to "John Hanes" in 1813, witnessed by THOMAS HANES and JOHN REAVIS, prob brother or Uncle of Lucy. After years of searching, have still not located parents of Abraham. I believe it may be a Samuel Haynes/Hanes who was on the 1782 Surry co Tax list, and then disappears, though think may have found in Wilkes Co., after. Barbara Lucas

Rose, We don't know the names of most of his daughters. We know that our William's wife was named Sarah, maiden name unknown. Their oldest son was Silas [possibly William? Silas] Harris, b. 1775, who lived in Surry Co. on the South Fork of Mitchell River from 1804 until his death after 1850 [his wife was Edith Franklin, the daughter of John & Sarah "Sallie" Lewis Franklin of South Fork, Mitchell River.] Silas & Edith's children were: William Lewis [m. Hannah SMITH of Wilkes Co.], Joel [m. Sarah NORMAN of Surry Co.], John [m. (1) UNKNOWN; m. (2) Hannah LOWDEN of Surry], Sarah? [m. William GREEN & living 1850 in Wilkes Co. with her younger brother, Ambrose], Ambrose [m. Lucinda FIELDS & moved to Wilkes], Elizabeth? [m. Bird SNOW?], James [n.m. & d.s.p.], an unidentified DAUGHTER b. ca. 1814; Squire Henderson [m. Phebe/Feriba FIELDS & moved to Wilkes],Edith "Eada" [d.s.p.], and Mary Candace [unmarried, BUT had 5 children.] Then we are missing their eldest DAUGHTER, b. ca. 1785. Their third child was Mary Harris, b. 1789, who never married and appears to have had no children. Their fourth child was Lucinda "Lucy" Harris, who married Daniel FIELDS and lived her life in Wilkes Co. Daniel & Lucy's known children were: an unidentified DAUGHTER b. ca. 1818, Sarah "Sally" [d.s.p.], an unidentified DAUGHTER b. ca. 1821, an unidentified DAUGHTER b. ca. 1823, Rachel b. 1824/25 [d.s.p.], John W. FIELDS [m. twice, first wife unidentified, but had issue with her; m. (2) Charity DICKERSON---no children], and Elizabeth Fields, b. 1828/29 [d.s.p.] Lucy's husband, Daniel FIELDS was a Justice in Wilkes. Their fifth child was an unidentified SON, b. ca. 1792--- moved away to parts unknown. Their sixth child was an unidentified SON, b. 1795/96--- moved away to parts unknown. Their seventh child was an unidentified DAUGHTER, b. ca. 1797. [Possibly Margaret Harris, who married Joseph FIELDS of Wilkes Co.?] Their eighth child was James HARRIS, b. 1799 in Ashe Co., NC; married Frances "Franky" FIELDS in Wilkes Co. His father lived with him in 1840 in Wilkes Co.; in 1850, James still lived in Wilkes; by 1860, he had moved to Surry Co., where he lived on the South Fork of Mitchell River close to his oldest brother, Silas. James stayed there until sometime in the 1870's. By 1880, his wife Franky had died, and James was living in Ashe Co. in the household of his son-in-law, William RICHARDSON & James' daughter, Elizabeth Harris Richardson. James & Franky Fields Harris' children were William [Rev. Wm., m. Caroline POE of Surry], John [m. Julia HAYNES/HAINES of Surry Co.], Squire [m. Sarah "Sallie" WILMOTH], Elizabeth [m. William RICHARDSON of Surry, later Ashe Co.], James W. [m. Sally A. CAUDILL], Noah [not married in 1870, no record after that], Frances "Franky" [d.s.p.], and Joseph Martin harris [m.(1) Nancy CAUDILL; m. (2) Mary E. UNKNOWN; 1880, next door to William & Elizabeth Harris Richardson in Ashe Co., NC]. Their ninth child was an unidentified SON, b. 1801/02. Every proven grandchild of Will & Sarah Harris had children, unless they were noted as d.s.p. above. By 1920 and 1930, there were descendants of Will & Sarah Harris in North Carolina [at least Surry, Ashe, Wilkes, Alleghany, Caldwell, and Yadkins Cos.], Virginia, Tennessee, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Idaho, and Washington State. We know there must be many more out there who don't know they are descended from Will & Sarah Harris of Culpeper, Virginia & Surry/Ashe/Wilkes Cos., North Carolina. We would love to reattach what must surely be huge missing branches of our Harris family tree. Our Will Harris moved to North Carolina from Culpeper with two friends. He appears to have been really close friends with Thomas WALSH/WELSH/ WELCH, who lived next door to Will in 1790 in Wilkes Co., NC [on the other of Will & Sarah was the mysterious Susannah Harris, who had been living WITH them in 1787.] Thomas Walsh [etc.] was the son of a man of the same name who lived in Orange Co., VA; Thomas appears to have remained in NW NC for a number of years, but he returned to Orange Co., Virginia, and died there. The other man who appeared in both Culpeper, VA and Wilkes, NC was a Thomas GRIMSLEY, who appears to have been a younger man, and was probably was a boy in 1776 in Culpeper. I don't know exactly who this Thomas GRIMSLEY's children were, but I suspect there was some intermarriage between his children and at least the brother of Edith Franklin Harris [William Lewis FRANKLIN of Surry.] One person I have not been able to clearly identify, but who was in Culpeper Co., VA in 1782 and was a minor, was a James HARRIS, who was recorded in the household of a Susannah WILLIAMS there. There was a record a year or two before that in the Minutes of St. Mark's Parish of Culpeper that mentioned a James HARRIS having small pox---possibly that James was my Will Harris' brother? And the minor James Harris of 1782 may have been Will's nephew??? "A" James HARRIS patented land in Ashe Co., NC in 1800 or 1801, but had disappeared by 1810. Was he our William's nephew? And where did he end up? Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <rosebud4242@peoplepc.com> To: <ncashe@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [NCASHE] Group 6 Was there a daughter Leah in this family? Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Stone" <pamstone@cfl.rr.com> To: <harris-colonialva@rootsweb.com>; <NCASHE-L@rootsweb.com>; <ncsurry@rootsweb.com>; <VACULPEP-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <vaorange@rootsweb.com>; <NCALLEGH-L@rootsweb.com>; <HARRIS-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [NCASHE] Group 6 > Hi, all, > > I am Pam Stone Ross, who Ira mentions in his > reply to Carol [below.] > > Additional information on our own line is that, prior > to going to that part of Surry Co. that later became > Stokes Co., NC in 1786 [and later moving to Wilkes > & Ashe Cos., NC, before returning to Wilkes, where > he died in 1848---he has descendants in Ashe, > Wilkes, Surry, and Alleghany Cos., NC and in > a lot of other places in the country that we know of.] > > Our William Harris, whose descendants' DNA matches > that of Ira Harris III, appears to have been possibly > the son of a William? Harris of Culpeper Co., VA > > There was a William HARRIS of Culpeper, VA > in 1763 that MAY have been the father of our Will > Harris who moved to Surry, NC in 1786. > > I am trying, but cannot prove this line prior > to my William Harris, b. 1752 in VA. > > This is OUR BRICK WALL. > > We are so trying to PROVE THIS LINE > BEFORE we have it. > > Any help would so be appreciated. > > Pam > pamstone@cfl.rr.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol E Barron" <carolbarron@juno.com> > To: <HARRIS-COLONIALVA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:35 PM > Subject: Fw: Re: Group 6 > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: Carol E Barron <carolbarron@juno.com> > To: barebear@insightbb.com > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:33:06 -0500 > Subject: Re: Group 6 > > This line is documented in Edgecombe County, North Carolina in the > 1740s through land deeds between Richard & Margaret (Kimbrough) > Harris and her brother Marmaduke Kimbrough. > Richard is the grandson of Robert through his son Robert. > 1750-1751 They are in Granville County, North Carolina according to > Tax Records and land records. > > > Thank you, Ira, for responding. Since your dates of 1740s then 1750-51 > are so close to the date I'm looking at which is 1748 Hanover Co....was > your Robert still in Hanover in 1748 that you're aware of? I'm trying to > pinpoint who the Robert of St. Martins, Hanover is in a 1748 Amelia deed > selling land to my Tho. Harris also of St. Martins Hanover--this Robert > rec'd the patent for this Amelia land in 1745. Then, in 1763 there's > still a Robert of St. Martins Hanover when my Tho. Jr. sells the same > 1748 land back to this Robert. Still yet in 1771, we have a Robert/wife > Eliz. of St. Martins Hanover in 1771 P.E. deed selling his P.E. land to > Stephen Davis of St. Martins Hanover. Trying to sort out these Robert's. > > 1) Robert Harris 1737/38 (Partridge Ledger) > > 2) Robert Harris, Jr 1737/38 (Partridge Ledger) > > 3) Robert Harris, New Market Mill 1738 (Va Gazette) > > 4) Robert Harris, Jr. New Market Mill 1738 (Va Gazette) > > 5) Robert Harris St. Martins Hanover, 1748 Amelia deed (signs, no wife) > (sells to my Thomas Harris same Co./Par.) > > 6) Tho. Jr. of Louisa Co. sells to Robert Harris St. Martins Hanover 1763 > P.E. Co. land (Tho. marks his name/wife Saborey) > > 7) Robert Harris Sep 15, 1769 living near Harrisburg Granville Co. NC > (ref: Va Gazette) > > 8) Robert Harris/Eliz 1771 St. Martins Hanover Co. (marked his P.E. Co. > deed sells to Stephen Davis of St. Martins Hanover Co.) > > > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:35:22 -0500 Ira Harris <barebear@insightbb.com> > writes: >> Carol, >> >> My line seems to be the trunk line for most of the others. The >> earliest date I have on Robert is that he was born About 1635, >> probably in Virginia. >> This line is documented in Edgecombe County, North Carolina in the >> >> 1740s through land deeds between Richard & Margaret (Kimbrough) >> Harris and her brother Marmaduke Kimbrough. >> Richard is the grandson of Robert through his son Robert. >> 1750-1751 They are in Granville County, North Carolina according to >> >> Tax Records and land records. > >> Some believe that Robert's dad may have been William Harris "of >> Jamestown". He came to America from England aboard the "George" in >> >> 1621. He was born in England in 1596. >> William was part of the surveying crew of Secretary Claiborne. >> >> Pam Stone Ross' line were in the western part of North Carolina >> (Ashe, Surry, Wilkes) after the Revolutionary War. >> >> The Dabney Harris line (part of the Christopher & Temperance >> (Overton) Harris line is also in North Carolina. I do not remember >> >> the timeframe for them. >> >> Hope this helps, >> >> Ira >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HARRIS-COLONIALVA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCASHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCASHE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, all, I am Pam Stone Ross, who Ira mentions in his reply to Carol [below.] Additional information on our own line is that, prior to going to that part of Surry Co. that later became Stokes Co., NC in 1786 [and later moving to Wilkes & Ashe Cos., NC, before returning to Wilkes, where he died in 1848---he has descendants in Ashe, Wilkes, Surry, and Alleghany Cos., NC and in a lot of other places in the country that we know of.] Our William Harris, whose descendants' DNA matches that of Ira Harris III, appears to have been possibly the son of a William? Harris of Culpeper Co., VA There was a William HARRIS of Culpeper, VA in 1763 that MAY have been the father of our Will Harris who moved to Surry, NC in 1786. I am trying, but cannot prove this line prior to my William Harris, b. 1752 in VA. This is OUR BRICK WALL. We are so trying to PROVE THIS LINE BEFORE we have it. Any help would so be appreciated. Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol E Barron" <carolbarron@juno.com> To: <HARRIS-COLONIALVA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: Fw: Re: Group 6 ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Carol E Barron <carolbarron@juno.com> To: barebear@insightbb.com Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:33:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Group 6 This line is documented in Edgecombe County, North Carolina in the 1740s through land deeds between Richard & Margaret (Kimbrough) Harris and her brother Marmaduke Kimbrough. Richard is the grandson of Robert through his son Robert. 1750-1751 They are in Granville County, North Carolina according to Tax Records and land records. Thank you, Ira, for responding. Since your dates of 1740s then 1750-51 are so close to the date I'm looking at which is 1748 Hanover Co....was your Robert still in Hanover in 1748 that you're aware of? I'm trying to pinpoint who the Robert of St. Martins, Hanover is in a 1748 Amelia deed selling land to my Tho. Harris also of St. Martins Hanover--this Robert rec'd the patent for this Amelia land in 1745. Then, in 1763 there's still a Robert of St. Martins Hanover when my Tho. Jr. sells the same 1748 land back to this Robert. Still yet in 1771, we have a Robert/wife Eliz. of St. Martins Hanover in 1771 P.E. deed selling his P.E. land to Stephen Davis of St. Martins Hanover. Trying to sort out these Robert's. 1) Robert Harris 1737/38 (Partridge Ledger) 2) Robert Harris, Jr 1737/38 (Partridge Ledger) 3) Robert Harris, New Market Mill 1738 (Va Gazette) 4) Robert Harris, Jr. New Market Mill 1738 (Va Gazette) 5) Robert Harris St. Martins Hanover, 1748 Amelia deed (signs, no wife) (sells to my Thomas Harris same Co./Par.) 6) Tho. Jr. of Louisa Co. sells to Robert Harris St. Martins Hanover 1763 P.E. Co. land (Tho. marks his name/wife Saborey) 7) Robert Harris Sep 15, 1769 living near Harrisburg Granville Co. NC (ref: Va Gazette) 8) Robert Harris/Eliz 1771 St. Martins Hanover Co. (marked his P.E. Co. deed sells to Stephen Davis of St. Martins Hanover Co.) On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:35:22 -0500 Ira Harris <barebear@insightbb.com> writes: > Carol, > > My line seems to be the trunk line for most of the others. The > earliest date I have on Robert is that he was born About 1635, > probably in Virginia. > This line is documented in Edgecombe County, North Carolina in the > > 1740s through land deeds between Richard & Margaret (Kimbrough) > Harris and her brother Marmaduke Kimbrough. > Richard is the grandson of Robert through his son Robert. > 1750-1751 They are in Granville County, North Carolina according to > > Tax Records and land records. > Some believe that Robert's dad may have been William Harris "of > Jamestown". He came to America from England aboard the "George" in > > 1621. He was born in England in 1596. > William was part of the surveying crew of Secretary Claiborne. > > Pam Stone Ross' line were in the western part of North Carolina > (Ashe, Surry, Wilkes) after the Revolutionary War. > > The Dabney Harris line (part of the Christopher & Temperance > (Overton) Harris line is also in North Carolina. I do not remember > > the timeframe for them. > > Hope this helps, > > Ira > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-COLONIALVA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Is anyone out there researching or have info on a ROSAMOND JOHNSON b. @ 1819 Surry CO., NC m. William "Bucky" DAVIS in 1839 Surry CO., NC and moved to Murray CO., GA @ 1840 and then on to Alabama.

>From what I can remember, Little and Big Fisher's River (Creek) runs from northwest Surry (from Grayson County, VA) to down near Dobson to the Fisher River which then empties into the Yadkin near Rockford. Someone who is more familiar with the rivers might offer better info. Bob Carter Greensboro, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dixeebarb@aol.com> To: <NCSurry-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:05 PM Subject: [NCSURRY] Fisher's River and Fisher's Creek, Surry Co.,N.C. .Where was it located? > My ancestor Abraham Haynes/Hanes, married ca1810 Lucy Reavis, d/o David > Reavis > Ab & Lucy were on the 1810 Surry co NC census. > > He purchased land, 150 acres on the head of Fisher's Creek in 1808 > (Grant > Bk 17), beginning at Rattelgers corner, Wales Line on Wesleys Road, > Sorrell's > corner on Fisher's Creek. > > And in Dec.1810 purchased 100 acres frm Isaac Hudson, witnessed by John > Wooten and John Masters; being described as on the head of Fisher's Creek, > on > Wilkes Rd and John Wooten's Corner. > > The third tract of land, 50 acres frm Joseph Jenkins in Jan 1808, > witnessed > by > Nicholas and John Masters. Described as beginning at Shaw's Corner, > incld. > improvements on Fisher's Creek. > > He sold the 150 acres he bought frm Hudson and Jenkins in 1813 to John > Hanes. This was deed was witnessed by Thomas Hanes (and registered > in 1823 by oath of Thos. Hanes) and John Reavis, probable Uncle of Lucy. > > Where was Fisher's Creek located? > > Have found also a Fisher's River and Old Fisher's Creek Primitive Baptist > Church in same area. > > Thanks > > Barb > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My ancestor Abraham Haynes/Hanes, married ca1810 Lucy Reavis, d/o David Reavis Ab & Lucy were on the 1810 Surry co NC census. He purchased land, 150 acres on the head of Fisher's Creek in 1808 (Grant Bk 17), beginning at Rattelgers corner, Wales Line on Wesleys Road, Sorrell's corner on Fisher's Creek. And in Dec.1810 purchased 100 acres frm Isaac Hudson, witnessed by John Wooten and John Masters; being described as on the head of Fisher's Creek, on Wilkes Rd and John Wooten's Corner. The third tract of land, 50 acres frm Joseph Jenkins in Jan 1808, witnessed by Nicholas and John Masters. Described as beginning at Shaw's Corner, incld. improvements on Fisher's Creek. He sold the 150 acres he bought frm Hudson and Jenkins in 1813 to John Hanes. This was deed was witnessed by Thomas Hanes (and registered in 1823 by oath of Thos. Hanes) and John Reavis, probable Uncle of Lucy. Where was Fisher's Creek located? Have found also a Fisher's River and Old Fisher's Creek Primitive Baptist Church in same area. Thanks Barb

Mary June, How lucky you are. Would you mind looking in your index to see if you have any William Hill's? Wanda

Greetings All, I am looking for any information on a Benjamin Augustine COOK. We have several birthdates for him ranging from 1810 to 1825. He was born in North Carolina, tradition has it in or around the Raleigh, Wake County area. He was married to a Mary Ann Jackson TUCKER. There is a marriage record for an Augustus COOK and a Mary Ann TUCKER who were married in December of 1841. They had a total of fifteen known children Benjamin and Mary Ann settled in Booneville, Surry County(latter Yadkin County) where he operated a blacksmith shop. The ledger books for his blacksmith shop were kept by a Joseph COOK. Benjamin and Joseph jointly owned land in the Booneville area. Joseph was the known brother of a Robert Henry COOK. There is no known relationship between Benjamin and Joseph or Robert Henry, however it is believed that they are some how related, as yet nothing has been found. In 1869 he purchased some land from a W. A. Poindexter. He sold his land to a T. L. Blackwell in 1883. He dies in 1885 near Wichita, Kansas. Most of his children went out to Kansas. The only son who stayed behind inn North Carolina was a William COOK born 1 October 1848. I know that this not much to go on but we have been looking for many years for anything. We have been in contact with a descendant of Joseph COOK who also has been unable to show any relationship between Benjamin and Joseph. They have also not been able to find any record of Joseph or Robert Henry before they turned up in the Booneville area. If any of this looks familiar please let us know. Timothy ========================= hmscook@rangeweb.net http://www.rangeweb.net/~hmscook http://www.cheyenneancestors.com http://www.sortore.com

I have a partial list of 1809 insolvent taxpayers and would like to know if anyone has any information of one of the named taxpayers - George Bruce. Many thanks Bea

I have the first 11 volumes in my private library collection. Mary June

Are all volumes of this book for sale at the gift shop? Some volumes are out of print and are not available at the Moravian Book Shop in Winston-Salem, NC.

These books are also at the Forsyth County library downtown in the NC Room - their genealogy room. You need to ask for them at the desk - they are kept behind the scenes for safer keeping and they will let you see them one or 2 at a time. They include the diaries of Brother Soelle who road around the entire area ministering to the NON- Moravians baptizing people and having funerals and making converts - he got to know folks in the area well and stayed in their homes and writes about many of the families and tells stories of family events as he goes ---very very informative if you had family in Surry County or the part of the country that later became Yadkin.. Susan Avery Winston-Salem, NC On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:03:21 -0400 "Information" <info@professionalheritage.com> writes: > These books are available at the NC Museum of History in their gift > shop as > well... And I agree, they are worth every penny... They're simply > outstanding! > > Debbie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Hdanw@aol.com> > To: <NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:25 PM > Subject: [NCSURRY] Some Background Information about the Formation > of > SurryCo., NC > > > > One problem in genealogy leads to another. > > > > First problem--I was trying to find out what records and films the > Family > > History Library in Salt Lake City might have for Surry Co., NC, as > I know > > I have > > seen some of the records at that Library and, indeed, have > photocopied > > some > > of them. > > > > Imagine my amazement to find that the FHL on > _www.familysearch.org_ > > (http://www.familysearch.org) does NOT have a PLACE listing for > Surry > > Co., NC. > > > > Then I entered the search term Surry [alone] as I have other > ancestors in > > colonial Surry Co., VA. No dice!!!! I wonder whether it is > spelled > > Surrey, > > as for the county of the same name in England!!! > > > > From time to time, generally when I have been present in Salt Lake > City, > > I > > have dropped a note in the suggestion box--or at the reference > desk when > > I > > figure a knowledgeable professional is on duty--as to some > problems with > > the > > catalog. This time, I suggest that the Surry Co. Genealogical > Society > > make the > > contact themselves. > > > > Anyway, not being content with NO catalog entry, I decided to do a > > google.com search for Surry Co., North Carolina + history [or was > it + > > genealogy] and > > found this website. > > > > _http://juliemorrison.com/surry/history.htm_ > > (http://juliemorrison.com/surry/history.htm) > > > > This is of interest to me because I am almost certain, based on > > preponderance of evidence, that I am descended from a Moravian > lady. But > > there are other > > groups of families in and around this area who are of interest to > me. > > > > I am fortunate in that my large metropolitan Family History Center > has a > > complete set of the books compiled by Adelaide Fries and others > many years > > ago. > > The journals kept by the Moravians should be of interest to all > who had > > relatives or ancestors in that part of North Carolina, because > there > > really > > journal entries about everyone with whom the Moravians had > interface. > > > > It seems that a bookstore in Winston Salem has this set of books, > or at > > least a description of them, and I have taken the liberty of > copying their > > description. (Please excuse, but it should help spread the word > that a > > reprint is > > probably underway.) > > > > > > The Moravians in North Carolina > > Fries, Adelaide L., et al., Records of the Moravians in North > Carolina. > > North Carolina Historical Commission (and successors), Raleigh, > > 1922-2000. Twelve > > volumes � more than 6,700 pages � of translations and > transcriptions of > > church diaries and other documents, spanning from the arrival of > the > > first > > surveying party in 1752 to when the last church board switched > from > > German to > > English in 1879. Practically a daily account of life in the North > > Carolina > > wilderness and then in the growing state, these volumes are a gold > mine > > for family > > historians, adding flesh and blood to the bare bones of > ancestors� > > births, > > marriages, and deaths. The first 11 volumes are out of print and > must be > > borrowed on an inter-library loan basis. Volume 12, spanning the > Civil War > > years > > was published in 2000. Volume 13, covering Reconstruction > (1867-1876), is > > scheduled to be published in 2003 by the North Carolina Division > of > > Archives and > > History. > > I finally found the listing in the online Family History Library > Catalog > > for this valuable set of books -- probably a title search, but > before I > > lose it > > again, I have made notes: > > Vols 1-5 1752-1792 Film No. 1321198 > > Vols. 6-9 1793-1847 Film No. 132120 > > Vols. 10-11 1841-1879 Film No. 1321211 > > Each volume has a separate index. Happy hunting!!! Winston-Salem > is now > > in > > Forsyth Co. If you suspect your people in North Carolina may > have had > > Moravian connections, these books are for you. Each volume is > > indexed--but, of > > course, the index, will be at the end of the film!!!! > > E.W.Wallace > > who has a Moravian umpteen great-grandmother > > Here is the search term for the above set of books, which have > been > > filmed. > > You might be able to order them from the FH Library in Salt Lake > City. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Until you asked I had in my mind that Wake was much closer to Surry than it is. After looking I see it is more in middle North Carolina. This makes me think I need to do more research in Wake County. The marriage was found in a listing of North Carolina marriages that did not list parents, etc., only names and dates. Julia Julia Williams Kodak Researching Adams, Anderson, Baker, Bedsaul, Bonham, Brannock, Caudill, Caldwell, Creed, Dickens, Franklin, Golden, Golding, Goodson, Gollehon, Johnson, Musser, Moore, Norman, Rowland, Snow, Sturgill, Suit, Upchurch, Williams and Wymer in SW VA and NC and the people of Shell Creek, TN. "The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" Romans 6:23 ---- Lt28Ret@aol.com wrote: ============= Julia, this is J.C.Johnson (Kinney JOhnson) line. When you found the marriage for Kimbro, did it list and parents ,etc? I never thought to look at Wake Co. for marriage for Kinney. How far from Surry is Wake Co.? jcj ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These books are available at the NC Museum of History in their gift shop as well... And I agree, they are worth every penny... They're simply outstanding! Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hdanw@aol.com> To: <NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:25 PM Subject: [NCSURRY] Some Background Information about the Formation of SurryCo., NC > One problem in genealogy leads to another. > > First problem--I was trying to find out what records and films the Family > History Library in Salt Lake City might have for Surry Co., NC, as I know > I have > seen some of the records at that Library and, indeed, have photocopied > some > of them. > > Imagine my amazement to find that the FHL on _www.familysearch.org_ > (http://www.familysearch.org) does NOT have a PLACE listing for Surry > Co., NC. > > Then I entered the search term Surry [alone] as I have other ancestors in > colonial Surry Co., VA. No dice!!!! I wonder whether it is spelled > Surrey, > as for the county of the same name in England!!! > > From time to time, generally when I have been present in Salt Lake City, > I > have dropped a note in the suggestion box--or at the reference desk when > I > figure a knowledgeable professional is on duty--as to some problems with > the > catalog. This time, I suggest that the Surry Co. Genealogical Society > make the > contact themselves. > > Anyway, not being content with NO catalog entry, I decided to do a > google.com search for Surry Co., North Carolina + history [or was it + > genealogy] and > found this website. > > _http://juliemorrison.com/surry/history.htm_ > (http://juliemorrison.com/surry/history.htm) > > This is of interest to me because I am almost certain, based on > preponderance of evidence, that I am descended from a Moravian lady. But > there are other > groups of families in and around this area who are of interest to me. > > I am fortunate in that my large metropolitan Family History Center has a > complete set of the books compiled by Adelaide Fries and others many years > ago. > The journals kept by the Moravians should be of interest to all who had > relatives or ancestors in that part of North Carolina, because there > really > journal entries about everyone with whom the Moravians had interface. > > It seems that a bookstore in Winston Salem has this set of books, or at > least a description of them, and I have taken the liberty of copying their > description. (Please excuse, but it should help spread the word that a > reprint is > probably underway.) > > > The Moravians in North Carolina > Fries, Adelaide L., et al., Records of the Moravians in North Carolina. > North Carolina Historical Commission (and successors), Raleigh, > 1922-2000. Twelve > volumes — more than 6,700 pages — of translations and transcriptions of > church diaries and other documents, spanning from the arrival of the > first > surveying party in 1752 to when the last church board switched from > German to > English in 1879. Practically a daily account of life in the North > Carolina > wilderness and then in the growing state, these volumes are a gold mine > for family > historians, adding flesh and blood to the bare bones of ancestors’ > births, > marriages, and deaths. The first 11 volumes are out of print and must be > borrowed on an inter-library loan basis. Volume 12, spanning the Civil War > years > was published in 2000. Volume 13, covering Reconstruction (1867-1876), is > scheduled to be published in 2003 by the North Carolina Division of > Archives and > History. > I finally found the listing in the online Family History Library Catalog > for this valuable set of books -- probably a title search, but before I > lose it > again, I have made notes: > Vols 1-5 1752-1792 Film No. 1321198 > Vols. 6-9 1793-1847 Film No. 132120 > Vols. 10-11 1841-1879 Film No. 1321211 > Each volume has a separate index. Happy hunting!!! Winston-Salem is now > in > Forsyth Co. If you suspect your people in North Carolina may have had > Moravian connections, these books are for you. Each volume is > indexed--but, of > course, the index, will be at the end of the film!!!! > E.W.Wallace > who has a Moravian umpteen great-grandmother > Here is the search term for the above set of books, which have been > filmed. > You might be able to order them from the FH Library in Salt Lake City. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Julia, this is J.C.Johnson (Kinney JOhnson) line. When you found the marriage for Kimbro, did it list and parents ,etc? I never thought to look at Wake Co. for marriage for Kinney. How far from Surry is Wake Co.? jcj

While we are on this subject, may I throw in mine in hopes someone has additional info? I descend from Kimbro Johnson b abt 1800 in NC who married Quinnett Pace b abt 1805 in NC. They married in Wake Co., NC Feb 15, 1820 and are then found on the 1830, 50 , 60, 70 and 1880 Surry Co., NC census. Thus I'm not sure if they lived in Surry to begin with and just married in Wake or if perhaps they were from Wake and moved to Surry between 1820 and 1830. Any addititional info is greatly appreciated. Julia Julia Williams Kodak Researching Adams, Anderson, Baker, Bedsaul, Bonham, Brannock, Caudill, Caldwell, Creed, Dickens, Franklin, Golden, Golding, Goodson, Gollehon, Johnson, Musser, Moore, Norman, Rowland, Snow, Sturgill, Suit, Upchurch, Williams and Wymer in SW VA and NC and the people of Shell Creek, TN. "The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" Romans 6:23 ---- Gwenn <Ghorne@swfla.rr.com> wrote: ============= Lois, I'm glad you brought the Johnson's up, some of the Johnson's are so vague in my tree. One of those John Johnson's in the Surry County, 1790 census. Was married to Elinor Davis I only have one child listed Elizabeth Johnson who married Frost And.Snow. I don't know the names of the other siblings of Elizabeth Johnson, and would like too. I have a Nancy Johnson who lived on the County line of Surry and Wilkes County who married Michael Wall in Surry County 1810. I cannot find any siblings, or parents. I would think one of the ones you mentioned on the Surry County 1790 census, but, which one? I would also along, with Lois, would love to hear from you. Thank You, Gwenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois" <loisgrizzard@charter.net> To: <NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:03 AM Subject: [NCSURRY] Hannah Johnson > Hi, > I have a lot of information on Henry Watkins (Sr.) but not his spouse, > Hannah JOHNSON (b. 1777) of (Surry) NC. According to ancestry.com, there > are 14 Johnsons in 1790 (Surry) NC, namely: Archibald, Benja, Charles, > Elsha, Isaac, Isaac, Jeffrey, John, John, John, John Junr, Joseph, Moses > and Willaim. > > I am curious about my Johnson lineage and I have nothing to work on but I > hope one of you have her parents & siblings in your family tree to help > me. Let me hear from you. Thanks! > Lois > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lois, I'm glad you brought the Johnson's up, some of the Johnson's are so vague in my tree. One of those John Johnson's in the Surry County, 1790 census. Was married to Elinor Davis I only have one child listed Elizabeth Johnson who married Frost And.Snow. I don't know the names of the other siblings of Elizabeth Johnson, and would like too. I have a Nancy Johnson who lived on the County line of Surry and Wilkes County who married Michael Wall in Surry County 1810. I cannot find any siblings, or parents. I would think one of the ones you mentioned on the Surry County 1790 census, but, which one? I would also along, with Lois, would love to hear from you. Thank You, Gwenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois" <loisgrizzard@charter.net> To: <NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:03 AM Subject: [NCSURRY] Hannah Johnson > Hi, > I have a lot of information on Henry Watkins (Sr.) but not his spouse, > Hannah JOHNSON (b. 1777) of (Surry) NC. According to ancestry.com, there > are 14 Johnsons in 1790 (Surry) NC, namely: Archibald, Benja, Charles, > Elsha, Isaac, Isaac, Jeffrey, John, John, John, John Junr, Joseph, Moses > and Willaim. > > I am curious about my Johnson lineage and I have nothing to work on but I > hope one of you have her parents & siblings in your family tree to help > me. Let me hear from you. Thanks! > Lois > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message