Dear Pam, I am totally unsure that William Harris (wife Temperance Overton) of colonial Pamunkey River area is descended from a Robert Harris. I do think your genealogist friend, Mrs. Davis, whose name is familiar to me, was right in being dubious about Robert being the father of William. I have just now referred to my notes, made some years ago, about Robert Harris, the purported immigrant to Virginia, and I see that I have extensive quotes from Mrs. Davis. When I do research on a person, particularly if he/she has lived in colonial Virginia or North Carolina, I try very hard to find land records. It is estimated by some knowledgeable genealogists/lecturers/authors that in the early days of this country, fully 90 per cent of the Anglo [and I might add German] population owned land. I find land records for a Robert Harris are extremely vague. Since William Harris of Pamunkey River area acquired a good many acres, according to the Virginia land patents, I am dubious that he is linked to the land-poor [it seems] Robert Harris, the purported immigrant. Information about an early Robert Harris in Virginia seems extremely vague. Then, to confuse matters, Malcolm Hart Harris, MD, an ardent genealogist, has written about William Harris, and he discovered there were three of them. It has been some years since I reviewed Dr. Harris's articles in The Virginia Genealogist, but I do NOT recall that he linked William Harris (wife Temperance Overton), who can be pretty well documented, with an immigrant ancestor, Robert Harris, In conclusion, I think we are right to question the linkage of these two colonial Virginians. Thank you for stirring me to review my notes. I am going to send them via a different e-mail. All I ask--if others use this material in their genealogies/family histories, please cite the sources. You do not need to cite my conclusions, but do give credit to those who have published their works. Genealogies without citations are rather worthless. Your progeny will ask, Where did you get that information? E.W.Wallace ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

E. W. and everyone, My good friend (and a very respected Virginia history researcher, who wrote Tidewater Virginia Families & was the official historian/genealogist of the 400th Anniversary of Virginia,) Virginia Lee Hutchison Davis (who unfortunately and sadly passed away August 18th of this year), and who documented our mutual Harris line in her books, Tidewater Virginia Families, said to me personally that she felt that we had not identified "our" particular end of "this" Harris line. She stated to me on several occasions that she felt "our" end of this Harris line did not come from the only documented line of Robert Harris (being his eldest son, William Harris, "your" William.) She told me she strongly felt that "our" end of this Harris line came from a younger son of Robert Harris 1659, and I think I have to agree with her conclusions. I find a Robert Harris patenting land in York Co., VA in 1687 adjacent to the land of William Brocas. I also find Capt. William Brocas listed as the owner of land in Lancaster Co., VA in 1665 in Christ Church Parish, VA in the Vestry Book of Christ Church Parish, VA. He had a later son who was also listed as a landowner in Virginia. I think that we all need to do more serious research in order to discover the younger sons of "your" Robert Harris. Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hdanw@aol.com> To: <pamstone@cfl.rr.com>; <VAALBEMA-L@rootsweb.com>; <NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com>; <MADKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:44 PM Subject: A Puzzle about a William Harris Who Lived In or Near Albemarle Co., VA - 1770s I am checking some old e-mails and I see there are some continuing questions about one William Harris--or many of them. Here are some of my notes. If you are handy with spreadsheets [or even 3 x 5 index cards] perhaps you can sort out these various William Harrise. One male is pretty definitely the son of Major Robert Harris of Louisa Co., VA, sometimes of Albemarle Co., as a deed after his death refers to his brother Christopher Harris and to his, William's wife/widow, Elizabeth. I always hold in the back of my mind that colonial wives sometimes did not last long, and any man may have had several wives. (In fact my own paternal grandmother--I am no youngster--died after the birth of her 3rd child--septicemia says her death certificate.) By the way, I am a direct descendant of Christopher Harris, who migrated to Madison Co., KY from Albemarle Co. after the Revolution. According to his will, he was the father of at least 19 children--by two wives. If you get these William Harrises, who seem to have been contemporaries, straightened out, please share with Harris-Hunters. If one checks the land records--patents as well as deeds--of colonial Virginia, the number of Harris males will astound you!!! Here are my notes. If you use this material in your own work, please cite the sources, a I have tried to do. Genealogy without sources is rather worthless. (The analytical remarks are my own. Help yourself, but give due credit to the wonderful authors of abstracted records.) E.W.Wallace WILLIAM HARRIS SON OF ROBERT HARRIS, MAJOR. 3931 Little is known of William Harris, reportedly born Nov 1752. He reportedly died before 1777, according to the Albemarle Co. deed cited below. William was seemingly under age or ill when his father Major Robert Harris of Louisa Co., VA wrote his will in June 1765. According to Malcolm Hart Harris, author of several articles on the Harris family of Hanover Co., his first wife was a Miss Michie and that a second was was [unknown] Thompson. Another account states his wife was Hannah Jameson. The Albemarle Co. deed cited below involving his brother Chirstopher indicates his widow was Elizabeth. At any rate, he is reported to have died in 1776. More research is needed. Major Robert Harris's (abstracted) will (W.B. 3-165) in Louisa Co. reads as follows: 18 June 1765. I August 1765. Son Christopher to have 40 acres of land in Albemarle County, known as "Bears Cornfield." After decease of wife, son William to have all land I now hold in Albemarle County. Sons, Robert, Tyre and William Harris to have slaves. Wife Mowrning (Mourning) to have use of all lands during her life. Son William [who probably was underage] to be under direction of son-in-law John Rodes. Exrs: sons-in-law John Rodes and William Shelton. Wit: Daniel Maupin, John Mullins, Jr, William Maupin and Connerly Mullins. (Rosalie Edith Davis, LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOKS A AND B, 1742-1759 [Bellevue, WA, 1976] Mrs. Davis's abstracted wills shows many Harris males involved in land transactions in that county. Perhaps these several Harris males were related because their names appear often in conjunction with others who are related to female lines, i.e., Rice, Dabney, Glen.) We believe, but cannot prove, that this patent may apply to the son of Maj. Robert Harris of Louisa Co. We know from other land records that the Harrises owned land near Moorman's River in Albemarle Co. Patent Bk 42-633: William Harris, 211 acs. Albemarle Co. on the S side of Pasture fence Mountain on some of the Eastern brs. of Moremans Riv., adj his own line; 5 Jul 1774, p. 633, 1 pd. 5 Shillings. (Dennis Ray Hudgins, CAVALIERS & PIONEERS, V. 7 [Richmond: Virginia Genealogical Society], p. 346) Can the following Amherst Co. deed refer to this particular William Harris? Amherst Co. DB C-190 1 Jul 1771. William Harris, Albemarle, to John Diggs, AC [Amherst Co.] for 50 pds., 150 acres on N side of Rockfish. Pat of tract bought by Wm. Harris from Jacob Writh. Lines: Wm. Harris, N side of the main road, crossing Buck Creek. Wit: Wm. Harris, Jr., Jno Montgomery, Josiah Jopling. (Rev. Bailey Fulton Davis, THE DEEDS OF AMHERST COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1761-1807 AND ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1748-1763 [Easley, SC: Southern Historical Press, 1979] p. 127) Amherst Co. DB A-227 gives information that William Harris on 2 Jul 1764 bought part of the original 900 acres belonging to Jacob Wright and wife Elizabeth. (ibid, p. 82) In December 2002, one correspondent states that William Harris with wife Henrietta [unknown] is the son of Robert Harris, but we cannot verify this union from the following abstracted deed, which is signed acknowledged by a William Harris with a wife named Elizabeth. Question: Did Elizabeth have two names, or are these distinctly different wives? Furthermore, we cannot identify Samuel Harris, Overton Harris and James Harris. A James Harris is said to have married Mary, the daughter of Robert Harris and is verified to have been son-in-law of Major Robert Harris. Are Samuel and Overton Harris brothers of James Harris, the groom of Mary, the daughter of Maj. Robert Harris? Because of the late date of this deed--1786--this person seems NOT to be the same as Robert Harris's son William who died ca. 1776-1777, as indicated in an Albemarle Co. deed cited below. Why is one of the grantors named Hennaretta, and yet the deed is signed by a woman named Elizabeth Harris? Is this an error of the abstractor, Mrs. Davis, or of the county clerk? This writer has observed over the years that frequently county clerks will give a female one name in one place and another name in another place in a document. Louisa Co. DB F-150-151 5 Oct 1786 William Harris & Hennaretta his wife of Louisa Co. to Manoah Lasley of same; 9 pds; 48 1/2 a. on north east side of Long Cr. bounded by lands of Menoah Lasley, William Harress & John Boswell. William Harris Elizabeth Harris Wit: Samuel Harris, James (X) Harris, Overton Harris (Rosalie Edith Davis, LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOKS E & F, 1774-1790 [Manchester, MO: Privately published, 1983] p. 60) An earlier Louisa Co. deed specifies that one William Harris has a wife named Elizabeth. Louisa Co. DB E-238-239, 9 Mar 1778 William Harris & Elizabeth his wife of Louisa Co. to David Bigger of sd. Co.; 200 pds.; 100 a. on the south side the North Anna River... Parson Douglass corner on the river...Wm. Harris' line...Thomas Graves line...Thomas Harris line Wit: none William (+) Harris Elizabeth (X) Harris 9 Mar 1778 ack. by William Harris & Elizabeth his wife (Davis, p. 27) William Harris, son of Robert Harris, apparently died ca 1777, as indicated by a deed executed with his widow Elizabeth and his brother Christopher and Christopher's then wife, cited below. Is he the William Harris who appears in this Albemarle Co. deed? The association with a male Mechie suggests that he is the same person. Albemarle Co. DB 5-188,189: [blank] day of [blank] 1770 between William Mechie of Fredericksville Par. and Albemarle Co. & William Harris of same... 60 pds. 150 acres .. n. side of Mechams River ... Robert Lewis's line... /s/ William Mechie Ackd by William Mechie at Albemarle June court 1770 (Adapted from Ruth & Sam Sparacio, DEED ABSTRACTS OF ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1768-1770 [McLean, VA: The Antient Press, 1990], p. 95) Albemarle Co. DB 5-312-313 12 Nov 1770 William Clark and Frances his wife of county of Albemarle and Parish of Fredericksville to William Harris of above county & parish for 57 pds. one shilling & three pence ... 336 acres ... upper side of Meachams River .. John Mechie's line William Clark Frances her mark X Clark Wit: Nonan Mills, Benjamin Clark, John Rodes At Albemarle May Court 1771 proved by oaths of Nonan Mills, Benjamin Clark & John Rodes (Adapted from Ruth & Sam Sparacio, ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEEDS AND WILLS, 1768-1772, PART II [McLean VA: The Antient Press, 19??] p. 23) Because there is an association with a John Rodes, whose wife was Sarah Harris, a daughter of Major Robert Harris, and because the land is on Mechum's River, we suspect the William Harris of Albemarle Co. is the more likely candidate to have been son of Robert Harris. The name of the widow of William Harris--Elizabeth--appears in a 1777 deed in Albemarle Co Deed Bk 1776-1782, p. 56-58. Abstracted, the deed reads: 8 May 1777 between Christopher Harris and Agnes, his wife, and Elizabeth Harris, the widow of William Harris deced. all of Albemarle Co. to Thomas Garth - two parcels of land 150 acres on N. side of Mechum's River and 336 acres on both sides of Mecham's River ... Albemarle Co. Old Line .. John Michie's ln.... said Elizabeth his widow and said Christopher his Brother and Heir, and said Elizabeth his Widow and said Christopher his Brother and Heir .. Elizabeth .. possessed of one third part of each of the parcels of land as of her Dower of the Estate ... and Christopher .. as brother and Heir to said William ... remaining two thirds of each of the parcels and is also entitled to a Reversion after the death of said Elizabeth whensoever the same shall happen... Now the said Christopher Harris and Agnes his Wife and said Elizabeth in consideration of ... 100 pounds .. convey to Thomas Garth in fee simple ... two tracts of land containing by estimation 486 acres. (no witnesses recorded) Christopher Harris Agness Harris Elizabeth Harris (Adapted from Ruth & Sam Sparacio, ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEEDS 1776-1778 [McLean, VA: The Antient Press, 1997] pp. 27-29) Apparently, there are two William Harrises with a wife named Elizabeth, one who had died by 1777 as indicated in the Albemarle Co. deed cited above, and one who was very much alive in 1778 in Louisa Co. as indicated in the Louisa Co. deed. Or, conceivably the 1778 deed was recorded after William's death. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

I am checking some old e-mails and I see there are some continuing questions about one William Harris--or many of them. Here are some of my notes. If you are handy with spreadsheets [or even 3 x 5 index cards] perhaps you can sort out these various William Harrise. One male is pretty definitely the son of Major Robert Harris of Louisa Co., VA, sometimes of Albemarle Co., as a deed after his death refers to his brother Christopher Harris and to his, William's wife/widow, Elizabeth. I always hold in the back of my mind that colonial wives sometimes did not last long, and any man may have had several wives. (In fact my own paternal grandmother--I am no youngster--died after the birth of her 3rd child--septicemia says her death certificate.) By the way, I am a direct descendant of Christopher Harris, who migrated to Madison Co., KY from Albemarle Co. after the Revolution. According to his will, he was the father of at least 19 children--by two wives. If you get these William Harrises, who seem to have been contemporaries, straightened out, please share with Harris-Hunters. If one checks the land records--patents as well as deeds--of colonial Virginia, the number of Harris males will astound you!!! Here are my notes. If you use this material in your own work, please cite the sources, a I have tried to do. Genealogy without sources is rather worthless. (The analytical remarks are my own. Help yourself, but give due credit to the wonderful authors of abstracted records.) E.W.Wallace WILLIAM HARRIS SON OF ROBERT HARRIS, MAJOR. 3931 Little is known of William Harris, reportedly born Nov 1752. He reportedly died before 1777, according to the Albemarle Co. deed cited below. William was seemingly under age or ill when his father Major Robert Harris of Louisa Co., VA wrote his will in June 1765. According to Malcolm Hart Harris, author of several articles on the Harris family of Hanover Co., his first wife was a Miss Michie and that a second was was [unknown] Thompson. Another account states his wife was Hannah Jameson. The Albemarle Co. deed cited below involving his brother Chirstopher indicates his widow was Elizabeth. At any rate, he is reported to have died in 1776. More research is needed. Major Robert Harris's (abstracted) will (W.B. 3-165) in Louisa Co. reads as follows: 18 June 1765. I August 1765. Son Christopher to have 40 acres of land in Albemarle County, known as "Bears Cornfield." After decease of wife, son William to have all land I now hold in Albemarle County. Sons, Robert, Tyre and William Harris to have slaves. Wife Mowrning (Mourning) to have use of all lands during her life. Son William [who probably was underage] to be under direction of son-in-law John Rodes. Exrs: sons-in-law John Rodes and William Shelton. Wit: Daniel Maupin, John Mullins, Jr, William Maupin and Connerly Mullins. (Rosalie Edith Davis, LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOKS A AND B, 1742-1759 [Bellevue, WA, 1976] Mrs. Davis's abstracted wills shows many Harris males involved in land transactions in that county. Perhaps these several Harris males were related because their names appear often in conjunction with others who are related to female lines, i.e., Rice, Dabney, Glen.) We believe, but cannot prove, that this patent may apply to the son of Maj. Robert Harris of Louisa Co. We know from other land records that the Harrises owned land near Moorman's River in Albemarle Co. Patent Bk 42-633: William Harris, 211 acs. Albemarle Co. on the S side of Pasture fence Mountain on some of the Eastern brs. of Moremans Riv., adj his own line; 5 Jul 1774, p. 633, 1 pd. 5 Shillings. (Dennis Ray Hudgins, CAVALIERS & PIONEERS, V. 7 [Richmond: Virginia Genealogical Society], p. 346) Can the following Amherst Co. deed refer to this particular William Harris? Amherst Co. DB C-190 1 Jul 1771. William Harris, Albemarle, to John Diggs, AC [Amherst Co.] for 50 pds., 150 acres on N side of Rockfish. Pat of tract bought by Wm. Harris from Jacob Writh. Lines: Wm. Harris, N side of the main road, crossing Buck Creek. Wit: Wm. Harris, Jr., Jno Montgomery, Josiah Jopling. (Rev. Bailey Fulton Davis, THE DEEDS OF AMHERST COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1761-1807 AND ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1748-1763 [Easley, SC: Southern Historical Press, 1979] p. 127) Amherst Co. DB A-227 gives information that William Harris on 2 Jul 1764 bought part of the original 900 acres belonging to Jacob Wright and wife Elizabeth. (ibid, p. 82) In December 2002, one correspondent states that William Harris with wife Henrietta [unknown] is the son of Robert Harris, but we cannot verify this union from the following abstracted deed, which is signed acknowledged by a William Harris with a wife named Elizabeth. Question: Did Elizabeth have two names, or are these distinctly different wives? Furthermore, we cannot identify Samuel Harris, Overton Harris and James Harris. A James Harris is said to have married Mary, the daughter of Robert Harris and is verified to have been son-in-law of Major Robert Harris. Are Samuel and Overton Harris brothers of James Harris, the groom of Mary, the daughter of Maj. Robert Harris? Because of the late date of this deed--1786--this person seems NOT to be the same as Robert Harris's son William who died ca. 1776-1777, as indicated in an Albemarle Co. deed cited below. Why is one of the grantors named Hennaretta, and yet the deed is signed by a woman named Elizabeth Harris? Is this an error of the abstractor, Mrs. Davis, or of the county clerk? This writer has observed over the years that frequently county clerks will give a female one name in one place and another name in another place in a document. Louisa Co. DB F-150-151 5 Oct 1786 William Harris & Hennaretta his wife of Louisa Co. to Manoah Lasley of same; 9 pds; 48 1/2 a. on north east side of Long Cr. bounded by lands of Menoah Lasley, William Harress & John Boswell. William Harris Elizabeth Harris Wit: Samuel Harris, James (X) Harris, Overton Harris (Rosalie Edith Davis, LOUISA COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOKS E & F, 1774-1790 [Manchester, MO: Privately published, 1983] p. 60) An earlier Louisa Co. deed specifies that one William Harris has a wife named Elizabeth. Louisa Co. DB E-238-239, 9 Mar 1778 William Harris & Elizabeth his wife of Louisa Co. to David Bigger of sd. Co.; 200 pds.; 100 a. on the south side the North Anna River... Parson Douglass corner on the river...Wm. Harris' line...Thomas Graves line...Thomas Harris line Wit: none William (+) Harris Elizabeth (X) Harris 9 Mar 1778 ack. by William Harris & Elizabeth his wife (Davis, p. 27) William Harris, son of Robert Harris, apparently died ca 1777, as indicated by a deed executed with his widow Elizabeth and his brother Christopher and Christopher's then wife, cited below. Is he the William Harris who appears in this Albemarle Co. deed? The association with a male Mechie suggests that he is the same person. Albemarle Co. DB 5-188,189: [blank] day of [blank] 1770 between William Mechie of Fredericksville Par. and Albemarle Co. & William Harris of same... 60 pds. 150 acres .. n. side of Mechams River ... Robert Lewis's line... /s/ William Mechie Ackd by William Mechie at Albemarle June court 1770 (Adapted from Ruth & Sam Sparacio, DEED ABSTRACTS OF ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA 1768-1770 [McLean, VA: The Antient Press, 1990], p. 95) Albemarle Co. DB 5-312-313 12 Nov 1770 William Clark and Frances his wife of county of Albemarle and Parish of Fredericksville to William Harris of above county & parish for 57 pds. one shilling & three pence ... 336 acres ... upper side of Meachams River .. John Mechie's line William Clark Frances her mark X Clark Wit: Nonan Mills, Benjamin Clark, John Rodes At Albemarle May Court 1771 proved by oaths of Nonan Mills, Benjamin Clark & John Rodes (Adapted from Ruth & Sam Sparacio, ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEEDS AND WILLS, 1768-1772, PART II [McLean VA: The Antient Press, 19??] p. 23) Because there is an association with a John Rodes, whose wife was Sarah Harris, a daughter of Major Robert Harris, and because the land is on Mechum's River, we suspect the William Harris of Albemarle Co. is the more likely candidate to have been son of Robert Harris. The name of the widow of William Harris--Elizabeth--appears in a 1777 deed in Albemarle Co Deed Bk 1776-1782, p. 56-58. Abstracted, the deed reads: 8 May 1777 between Christopher Harris and Agnes, his wife, and Elizabeth Harris, the widow of William Harris deced. all of Albemarle Co. to Thomas Garth - two parcels of land 150 acres on N. side of Mechum's River and 336 acres on both sides of Mecham's River ... Albemarle Co. Old Line .. John Michie's ln.... said Elizabeth his widow and said Christopher his Brother and Heir, and said Elizabeth his Widow and said Christopher his Brother and Heir .. Elizabeth .. possessed of one third part of each of the parcels of land as of her Dower of the Estate ... and Christopher .. as brother and Heir to said William ... remaining two thirds of each of the parcels and is also entitled to a Reversion after the death of said Elizabeth whensoever the same shall happen... Now the said Christopher Harris and Agnes his Wife and said Elizabeth in consideration of ... 100 pounds .. convey to Thomas Garth in fee simple ... two tracts of land containing by estimation 486 acres. (no witnesses recorded) Christopher Harris Agness Harris Elizabeth Harris (Adapted from Ruth & Sam Sparacio, ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEEDS 1776-1778 [McLean, VA: The Antient Press, 1997] pp. 27-29) Apparently, there are two William Harrises with a wife named Elizabeth, one who had died by 1777 as indicated in the Albemarle Co. deed cited above, and one who was very much alive in 1778 in Louisa Co. as indicated in the Louisa Co. deed. Or, conceivably the 1778 deed was recorded after William's death. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Dear Listers, Would someone tell me if Wills are available online from the time frame of 1800 to 1850 for Surry County???? I know of the earlier ones, but I need some later ones. Thanks! Elaine _________________________________________________________________ Capture your memories in an online journal! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us

HISTORY OF SURRY COUNTY or Annals of Northwest North Carolina by J. G. HOLLINGSWORTH Here is the information on the book. If your local library does not have it and you cannot borrow it from the loaning library, you might want to check into this website. dmkheritage.com they have it on CD. TABLE OF CONTENTS Indian Inhabitants White Explorers Frontiersmen Frontier Life Frontier Troubles Early Land Grants Surry County Created Regulator Troubles Beginning of the Revolutionary War Campaign Against Indians Last Years of the Revolution Creation of New Counties Political Military Manufacturing Agriculture Education Church Organizations Newspapers Social Groups Miscellaneous Facts Surry Soldiers of Our Wars Manufacturing Data Farming Data Officials-National and State Surry Vote for Governor from 1836 to 1932 For Surname Index: http://www.dmkheritage.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=97 **************************** Visit: http://www.dmkheritage.com To check on the latest County Histories and Parish Records on CDs Indexed and searchable

This book can be found online on Heritage Quest. Many Libraries have this service. --- Doris Christian <dmkchristian@austin.rr.com> wrote: > HISTORY OF SURRY COUNTY > or > Annals of Northwest North Carolina > > by J. G. HOLLINGSWORTH > > Here is the information on the book. If your local > library does not > have it and you cannot borrow it from the loaning > library, you might > want to check into this website. dmkheritage.com > they have it on > CD. > > TABLE OF CONTENTS > Indian Inhabitants > > White Explorers > > Frontiersmen > > Frontier Life > > Frontier Troubles > > Early Land Grants > > Surry County Created > > Regulator Troubles > > Beginning of the Revolutionary War > > Campaign Against Indians > > Last Years of the Revolution > > Creation of New Counties > > Political > > Military > > Manufacturing > > Agriculture > > Education > > Church Organizations > > Newspapers > > Social Groups > > Miscellaneous Facts > > Surry Soldiers of Our Wars > > Manufacturing Data > > Farming Data > > Officials-National and State > > Surry Vote for Governor from 1836 to 1932 > > For Surname Index: > http://www.dmkheritage.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=97 > > **************************** > Visit: http://www.dmkheritage.com > To check on the latest County Histories and Parish > Records on CDs > Indexed and searchable > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html

Time is running out! The Franklin County Heritage Book Committee reminds you that the deadline for stories and pictures is Sept. 15. Don't be disappointed! Be sure and postmark your material by that date to be included! The Heritage of Franklin County, NC is a part of the prestigious North Carolina County Heritage series. Click on: www.FranklinCoNC.com for all the details about this exciting new book! ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Glenda writes: Does anyone know the Allen or Henry Lawson listed below? Thanks for any info. Glenda >From Surry Co NC marriages: 3/28/1870 Henry LAWSON s/o Allen Lawson + Martha Fry d/o Jolly FRY Suggestion: There is a FREE transcription [you cannot access the image without paying Ancestry.com] of the 1880 census for the whole USA available on _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) (When you type in the URL given above, remove the punctuation which rootsweb adds at the beginning and end of the URL) When you get the opening screen on Familysearch, skip the *fill-in-the-blank* stuff--you will be led astray. Look in the lower right corner for the word census, which may not be immediately visible. Check [several times if necessary] that you want the US census for 1880. Now, without giving the search engine too much information, type in the surname you want and the state--North Carolina [from the drop-down menu of states]. You will find over 400 listings for Lawsons. Get more specific if you wish, but sometimes the persons who made the indexes could not read the old handwriting. Furthermore, the census-taker made some atrocious mistakes in the original. The 1880 US census is of interest to genealogists because the census-taker was to ask each enumerated person where each of his parents was born. Be sure to read the far right side of the census. Again, you will not get the image of the actual census page. When you find a person of interest, click on his or her name, then look at the upper right of the screen for a word *Household*. Click on that. You are going to find more Lawsons than you bargained for!!! What if they are all related? Wow! I think I would look for the Fry family first. I believe they were of German background, possibly Moravian, but that is only a hunch on my part. The more you study the neighbors and the in-laws, the more you will understand your families--flaws, crimes, etc. But, the hunt is fun!! Good luck! E.W.Wallace who is now collecting my grandmother's English ancestors ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Does anyone know the Allen or Henry Lawson listed below? Thanks for any info. Glenda >From Surry Co NC marriages: 3/28/1870 Henry LAWSON s/o Allen Lawson + Martha Fry d/o Jolly FRY ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Thanks to everyone who took the time to explain the marriage bonds to me. I have a better understanding now. Susan Sutter County, CA

I am back to my Surry County research after a year or so long break. I am inspired by a recent visit with my children's grandfather. He lived in Surry county almost continuously from his birth in 1925 to 1955. He is now 82 years old and very reminicent and sentimental about his days in Surry County. I have a question. I have been using the BMD records at Ancestry. Can someone explain the use of the marriage bond to me. I noticed some bonds were taken as early as 4-5 years before the marriage took place. I also wanted to let you know, the rootsweb quaker e-mail list is currently have a discussion that might be of interest: "Why Quakers left NC." Susan Petersen Sutter County, CA

Kirby - Have you seen the Upchurch forum? http://genforum.genealogy.com/upchurch/all.html

looking for parents of John Wesley COX b ~1850 / NC who md Jane UPCHURCH mostly lived in Surry Co [Bryan, in 1880 census]; possibly meanders into Wilkes Co also seeking info on *any* info relating to Jane. have some census & descendancy info with intent on deed or other primary source research [they were farmers & may have been share croppers; don't know if they owned land or not]; also interested in possible Cherokee ties, if known thx kirby kirbz@northstate.net

Matthew Creed Jr was the son of Matthew Creed Sr and Margaret (McKinney) Creed. I have not located a marriage record for Matthew Jr and his wife Elizabeth. Is there anyone on the list who knows the surname of Elizabeth who married Matthew Creed Jr? Their son Bennett Creed married Mary Jones in Grayson Co VA on 2 Aug 1831. They were the parents of Shadrack "Shade" Creed, my great-grandfather. Bennett died in Russell Co VA. Shade died in Tazewell Co VA. I would love to hear from anyone who can shed any light on the parents of Elizabeth, wife of Matthew Creed Jr. Nyla CREED DePauk ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Wow! E.W., I am really impressed by your being willing to share your hard-won research! (And its depth---you are really a great researcher on your end of these Harris lines!) Thank you---you just may be able to significantly help determine how, exactly, my illiterate William Harris of Culpeper, VA & NC relates to your much-better-educated Harris line. Thank you so much for sharing it with me and all the other Harris researchers. I will need some time to digest all of the documents you have provided, to comprehend all of them, and to appropriately respond to this mail. Thank you for your kindness and generosity to all of us Harris researchers. I certainly will be back in touch with you. And again, I thank you. Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hdanw@aol.com> To: <pamstone@cfl.rr.com>; <NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com>; <HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:22 AM Subject: Some Harris Mix-Ups Dear Pam, You wrote, Hi, everyone, I apparently didn't get the original posting that prompted this response. Capt. Robert Harris (the son of Robert Harris and Mourning Glenn of Louisa & Albemarle Cos., VA), and the husband of Lucretia Brown Harris, did NOT die in 1796! [Where do people keep getting that year of death for Robert Harris who died in Surry Co., NC? It is not correct, and people should please stop posting it as though it is proven. The actual documents show that this information is not correct at all---this particular Robert Harris did not die until 1809 in Surry Co., NC. Please, everyone who has notations on this man, correct your notes for him.] This Robert Harris and his family had moved, along with his parents, from Louisa Co. to Albemarle Co., VA, near the end of his parents' lives. Robert Harris Sr., and his wife, Mourning Glenn, died there, and their wills are recorded there. I do have documentation for this family in Louisa Co., and other earlier families, but I only will post a couple of vital ones in Albemarle, and a portion of what is relevant in North Carolina. And, by the way, Benjamin Brown Sr. had a large number of children before he started "going for the B's"; only his younger children's names all started with the letter "B". Lucy Brown Harris died sometime before1806, and Robert died there in 1809. An additional document that I am including here is the will of Cornelius Dabney [second father-in-law of this Robert Harris' brother, Christopher Harris, whose second wife was apparently Cornelius' daughter. {Cornelius Dabney's daughter, the second wife of Christopher Harris, was the mother of a number of his children that are named in his 1794 Madison Co., KY will...}] Robert Harris [Sr.] of Surry Co., NC, wrote his will in 1806 and died in 1809 in Surry Co., NC. His land was on the Ararat River in Surry Co. [DNA proves that this Harris line matches to the family of my own William Harris, who died in 1848 in Wilkes Co., NC at the age of 96 {having removed from Culpeper, VA, to Surry, NC, then Wilkes, NC.} How they possibly are related is, as yet, undiscovered. My William Harris was illiterate, and this Robert Harris was quite wealthy, and his family had always been literate, as far as I can tell. It is a mystery.] Here is the brief but clear documentation for the lines of the couple of Robert Harrises of this line as I have found it. As E. W. states, if you use any of this information, please cite the sources in the correct way (the researchers spent many hours in their work, and they deserve the tribute to them, and acknowledgement of the copyrights thereof. We would certainly all be lost without their work, so please be respectful in this regard, and always post all sources.) Pam _pamstone@cfl.rr.com_ (mailto:pamstone@cfl.rr.com) My response: I cannot remember--but will look through old sent mail--whether I messed up the death date of Robert Harris of Surry Co., NC. Furthermore, I do not collect all of the Benjamin Brown's children, so I am willing to make corrections as needed. However, if I am reading the information about Christopher Harris of Madison Co., KY, previously of Albemarle Co., VA correctly, then I need to correct information about his second wife--Agnes McCord, who survived him. I will send separately info that I *picked up* about Robert Harris, the son of Major Robert Harris of Louisa Co., VA, and I would appreciate any corrections you wish to make. Mary Dabney is reported to be the first wife of Christopher Harris, and this is partialy confirmed by the fact that Christopher in his will refers to his first children and a will of Cornelius Dabney [which Cornelius Dabney?] Also the first child named is Dabney Harris. Here are some of my notes about Agnes McCord, who survived Christopher Harris, and her name appears several times in the deed index of Madison Co., KY. Also, her name appears in some of the notes made by ... Lyman C. Copeland in Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia.[on the internet]. AGNES McCORD. (d. ca 1815, Madison Co., KY) Agnes was the second wife of Christopher Harris, of Albemarle Co., VA, later of Madison Co., KY. They are believed to have been married in 1760, as their oldest son, Benjamin, is said to have been born 28 Nov 1760. This information may need some "adjustment." Thus, Agnes was probably at least age 14-18 at time of marriage. However, preliminary research of Albemarle Co. deed indexes indicates that as late as 1768, Agnes may have been a single woman, but that by 1772, she was married to Harris. As seen from the deed entry in Albemarle Co., in late 1760, Agnes McCord seems to have been a single woman, not yet married to Christopher Harris. [Albemarle Co.] DB 2, Page 294: 14 Aug 1760 Wm. McCord, Par. of St. Ann, Albemarle Co., to sister, Agnes McCord - love and 5 sh. 174 acres both sides Moorman River near Blue Ledge. Pat to Jas. McCord, dec'd."/s/ William McCord. [No. wit.] (Rev. Bailey Fulton Davis, THE DEEDS OF AMHERST COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1761-1807 and ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1748-1763 [Amherst, VA, 1970] LAFHC 975.5482 P2a) (Blue Ledge may be the same as Blue Ridge, found in patent to Robert Harris, the father of Christopher Harris: 6 Dec 1753 - Patent to Robert Harris on Blue Ridge, Doyle River ) A 1766 patent to Mosias Jones refers to the lines of John McCord, Sr. and Agness McCord, thus: Patent Book No. 36: Mosias Jones, 90 acs. Albemarle Co. on both sides of Moreman's Riv., adj John McCord & Agness McCord; 10 Jul 1766, p. 940. 10 shill. (Dennis Ray Hudgins, ed., CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, Vol. VII [Richmond: Virginia Genealogical Society, 1999], p. 95) Indexes of deeds examined in 1997 indicate that by 1771/1772, Agnes had married Christopher Harris, as their names appear in Deed Bk 5 (Jan Ct 1771-Aug Ct 1772). More study is needed. Recorded in Augusta Co., VA, Deed Bk 22-397: 17 Nov 1778 Christopher Harris and Agnes of Albemarle to John Collins. Delivered: Thos. Turk, Aug 1779. (Lyman Chalkley in CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTTISH-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, V. 3; Chalkley also indicates that Deed Bk 22, p. 395, Augusta Co., VA had a deed executed by Christopher Harris and Agness (--) 17 Nov 1778, but details were not given.) Agnes died in Madison Co., KY prior to Aug 1815, when the court commissioners settled with her administrators Her younger son Overton Harris (writer's ancestor) and a son-in-law John Bennett were administrators. DB... [omitted by Madison Co. genealogist], p. 244: "Pursuant to an order of the County Court of Madison to us directed to settle with Overton Harris and John Bennett Administrators of the Estate of Agnes Harris Deceased we the undersigned Commissioners being first sworne do settle with the administrators and Report as followoers [sic] (to wit) To amount of sale Bill as C Report of Adm $1,979.14 McCords of Madison Co., KY Some of the McCords went to Madison Co., KY, but their relationship to Agnes is unknown. David McCord was grantee, Robert Burton, grantor. DB C-244. 1 Apr 1794, 100 A Otter Cr. (Robert Burton may be the same person of this name of Granville Co., NC. He was closely associated with the Henderson family and may have been administrator of Henderson's estate. Many of the personal papers of Robert Burton are believed to be either at Duke University or at the North Carolina State Archives. I have seen notes made of them--one in which one of my ancestors was suing Robert Burton because of promises made by Henderson to my ancestor, Michael Stoner.) From Madison Co., KY DB Index: Agnes Harris, grantor; Jesse Winburn, grantee; Comr. Deed, 6 Jun 1815, K-564, 21 1/2 A. Otter Cr. Origins of McCord Family The origins of the McCord family are unknown. They may have been Scotch-Irish from Pennsylvania who migrated down the Shenandoah Valley. Since a land transaction by Christopher Harris and his wife Agnes was recorded in Augusta Co., VA, search for McCords in that county was made. Kentucky Residence Agnes Harris (widow by that time) appeared in the 1810 census of Madison Co., KY: Males: 16-26: 3. 45 & over: 2. Females: 26-45: 1. 45 & over: 1. Other: 1. Slaves: 10. Document of Agnes McCord 1 Jul 1794, Madison Co., KY. "Know all men by these [sic] that I Agnes Harris of the County of Madison and State of Kentucky [illegible but probably executrix] to the last will and Testament of Christopher Harris Deceased for Divers good causes and considerations me hereunto moving have appointed John Harris of the County of Albermarle [sic], and state of Virginia, my true and lawfull attorney for me and my heirs to Take all Lawfull ways and means whatsoever to carry into full & ample execution, the w[ill?] of the said Christvr Harris Deceased, according to the true Intent and Meaning of said will in as full and as single a manner as if I myself was personally present hereby Ratifying and confirming whatever my said attorney may legally do by virtue of these presents, In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this first day of July 1794. /s./ Agnes Harris /LS/ Robert Tevis Edward S...state (From Madison Co. DB C-186, film no. FHL 183,284] Agnes died prior to August. 1814. Madison Co., KY. Wills, 1814: At a court continued and held for Madison County on the 3rd day of Augt. 1814. This inventory and appraisment of the estate of Agnis Harris decd was returned and ordered to be recorded and the said has been done. (s) Will. Irvine, clk. Will Bk -- p. 244 Pursuant to an order of the County Court of Madison to us directed to settle with Overton Harris and John Bennett, Administrators of the Estate of Agness Harris deceased we the undersigned commissioners being first sworne do settle with the administrators and report as followers [sic] to wit To amount of sale Bill as C Report of Adm $1979.14 Page 245 By cash due Overton Harris on previous account 290 By Keley Receipt as cryer at sale 4 By Butler & Searcy Receipt for Coffin 2 By Clerks fee Bill 1.70 1/2 By Jas Nicholas Receipt apraisor 1 By Wm. Carr Receipt for smith's work 10.50 By Richardson Receipt as clerk to the sale 2 By Whiskey Drank at Sale 10 By B. Milner's Receipt for Nicking horse 8 By tax and leavy to be collected in 1815 8.50 By Overton Harris charges for servses [sic] as Administrator, Collecting, and paying away $1979.14 at 5 percent 98.95 By cash paid to commissioners at $1.50 each 4.50 By clerks fee Bill .50 ------- Ballance due the estate by administrators 441.65.42 ----------- As witness our hands and seal this 8th day August R. A. Sturgus (?) (seal) Humphrey Jones (seal) William Stone (seal) At a court held for Madison County on Monday the 6th day of May 1816 This settlement with John Bennett and Overton Harris administrators of Agness Harris deceased was returned and ordered to be recorded. Test Will Irvine Lack of Information on McCord Ancestry There is no information in the various attempted genealogies of the Harris family of Albemarle Co. and of early Kentucky on the family of Agnes McCord. However, we learn from Augusta Co. VA Will Book 3 that other McCords were in Albemarle Co. ca. 1762, and others were in Augusta Co. from 1749. Perhaps they migrated there from Pennsylvania. Apparently they were Presbyterians. Refer to biography of John McCord [Sr.]. Some of the McCords found in Lyman Chalkley's CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENTS IN VIRGINIA are as follows. All were located in Augusta Co. unless the contrary is indicated: Martha McCord - deceased by 27 Feb 1749 James McCord, orphan of Wm. McCord - 1750. Later in the year James was of age (age 14 generally) to choose his own guardian. Sarah McCord's nuncupative will. Sister Mary; brother Adam. Joseph McCord's will, 25 Nov 1762. Wife Mary. Brother John. Mentions land near Moorman's River in Albemarle Co., where the Harrises also held land. Joseph McCord's estate - 18 Jun 1763; John McCord Jr.'s note; John McCord Sr.'s note; Benj. McCord's note; Adam McCord & James McCord's note. Wm. McCord's note; Thomas Grubbs note. [Grubbs is a family with whom the Harris family intermarried; perhaps the McCords had also intermarried with the Grubbs family.] E.W.Wallace. , ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

There shouldn't be any great mystery as to who your William Harris was who died in Wilkes Co.NC in 1848 at the age of 96. That makes him the exact age to be the son of Major Robert Harris & wife Mourning Glen - since they had a son named William born March 15, 1752 who was a twin by the way with his sister Elizabeth born the same day. The records I've seen don't have any information of what became of him after his birth in Albemarle Co. but by these dates this seems very very likely to be him. Susan Avery Winston-Salem, NC NC

Dear Pam, You wrote, Hi, everyone, I apparently didn't get the original posting that prompted this response. Capt. Robert Harris (the son of Robert Harris and Mourning Glenn of Louisa & Albemarle Cos., VA), and the husband of Lucretia Brown Harris, did NOT die in 1796! [Where do people keep getting that year of death for Robert Harris who died in Surry Co., NC? It is not correct, and people should please stop posting it as though it is proven. The actual documents show that this information is not correct at all---this particular Robert Harris did not die until 1809 in Surry Co., NC. Please, everyone who has notations on this man, correct your notes for him.] This Robert Harris and his family had moved, along with his parents, from Louisa Co. to Albemarle Co., VA, near the end of his parents' lives. Robert Harris Sr., and his wife, Mourning Glenn, died there, and their wills are recorded there. I do have documentation for this family in Louisa Co., and other earlier families, but I only will post a couple of vital ones in Albemarle, and a portion of what is relevant in North Carolina. And, by the way, Benjamin Brown Sr. had a large number of children before he started "going for the B's"; only his younger children's names all started with the letter "B". Lucy Brown Harris died sometime before1806, and Robert died there in 1809. An additional document that I am including here is the will of Cornelius Dabney [second father-in-law of this Robert Harris' brother, Christopher Harris, whose second wife was apparently Cornelius' daughter. {Cornelius Dabney's daughter, the second wife of Christopher Harris, was the mother of a number of his children that are named in his 1794 Madison Co., KY will...}] Robert Harris [Sr.] of Surry Co., NC, wrote his will in 1806 and died in 1809 in Surry Co., NC. His land was on the Ararat River in Surry Co. [DNA proves that this Harris line matches to the family of my own William Harris, who died in 1848 in Wilkes Co., NC at the age of 96 {having removed from Culpeper, VA, to Surry, NC, then Wilkes, NC.} How they possibly are related is, as yet, undiscovered. My William Harris was illiterate, and this Robert Harris was quite wealthy, and his family had always been literate, as far as I can tell. It is a mystery.] Here is the brief but clear documentation for the lines of the couple of Robert Harrises of this line as I have found it. As E. W. states, if you use any of this information, please cite the sources in the correct way (the researchers spent many hours in their work, and they deserve the tribute to them, and acknowledgement of the copyrights thereof. We would certainly all be lost without their work, so please be respectful in this regard, and always post all sources.) Pam _pamstone@cfl.rr.com_ (mailto:pamstone@cfl.rr.com) My response: I cannot remember--but will look through old sent mail--whether I messed up the death date of Robert Harris of Surry Co., NC. Furthermore, I do not collect all of the Benjamin Brown's children, so I am willing to make corrections as needed. However, if I am reading the information about Christopher Harris of Madison Co., KY, previously of Albemarle Co., VA correctly, then I need to correct information about his second wife--Agnes McCord, who survived him. I will send separately info that I *picked up* about Robert Harris, the son of Major Robert Harris of Louisa Co., VA, and I would appreciate any corrections you wish to make. Mary Dabney is reported to be the first wife of Christopher Harris, and this is partialy confirmed by the fact that Christopher in his will refers to his first children and a will of Cornelius Dabney [which Cornelius Dabney?] Also the first child named is Dabney Harris. Here are some of my notes about Agnes McCord, who survived Christopher Harris, and her name appears several times in the deed index of Madison Co., KY. Also, her name appears in some of the notes made by ... Lyman C. Copeland in Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia.[on the internet]. AGNES McCORD. (d. ca 1815, Madison Co., KY) Agnes was the second wife of Christopher Harris, of Albemarle Co., VA, later of Madison Co., KY. They are believed to have been married in 1760, as their oldest son, Benjamin, is said to have been born 28 Nov 1760. This information may need some "adjustment." Thus, Agnes was probably at least age 14-18 at time of marriage. However, preliminary research of Albemarle Co. deed indexes indicates that as late as 1768, Agnes may have been a single woman, but that by 1772, she was married to Harris. As seen from the deed entry in Albemarle Co., in late 1760, Agnes McCord seems to have been a single woman, not yet married to Christopher Harris. [Albemarle Co.] DB 2, Page 294: 14 Aug 1760 Wm. McCord, Par. of St. Ann, Albemarle Co., to sister, Agnes McCord - love and 5 sh. 174 acres both sides Moorman River near Blue Ledge. Pat to Jas. McCord, dec'd."/s/ William McCord. [No. wit.] (Rev. Bailey Fulton Davis, THE DEEDS OF AMHERST COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1761-1807 and ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1748-1763 [Amherst, VA, 1970] LAFHC 975.5482 P2a) (Blue Ledge may be the same as Blue Ridge, found in patent to Robert Harris, the father of Christopher Harris: 6 Dec 1753 - Patent to Robert Harris on Blue Ridge, Doyle River ) A 1766 patent to Mosias Jones refers to the lines of John McCord, Sr. and Agness McCord, thus: Patent Book No. 36: Mosias Jones, 90 acs. Albemarle Co. on both sides of Moreman's Riv., adj John McCord & Agness McCord; 10 Jul 1766, p. 940. 10 shill. (Dennis Ray Hudgins, ed., CAVALIERS AND PIONEERS, Vol. VII [Richmond: Virginia Genealogical Society, 1999], p. 95) Indexes of deeds examined in 1997 indicate that by 1771/1772, Agnes had married Christopher Harris, as their names appear in Deed Bk 5 (Jan Ct 1771-Aug Ct 1772). More study is needed. Recorded in Augusta Co., VA, Deed Bk 22-397: 17 Nov 1778 Christopher Harris and Agnes of Albemarle to John Collins. Delivered: Thos. Turk, Aug 1779. (Lyman Chalkley in CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTTISH-IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, V. 3; Chalkley also indicates that Deed Bk 22, p. 395, Augusta Co., VA had a deed executed by Christopher Harris and Agness (--) 17 Nov 1778, but details were not given.) Agnes died in Madison Co., KY prior to Aug 1815, when the court commissioners settled with her administrators Her younger son Overton Harris (writer's ancestor) and a son-in-law John Bennett were administrators. DB... [omitted by Madison Co. genealogist], p. 244: "Pursuant to an order of the County Court of Madison to us directed to settle with Overton Harris and John Bennett Administrators of the Estate of Agnes Harris Deceased we the undersigned Commissioners being first sworne do settle with the administrators and Report as followoers [sic] (to wit) To amount of sale Bill as C Report of Adm $1,979.14 McCords of Madison Co., KY Some of the McCords went to Madison Co., KY, but their relationship to Agnes is unknown. David McCord was grantee, Robert Burton, grantor. DB C-244. 1 Apr 1794, 100 A Otter Cr. (Robert Burton may be the same person of this name of Granville Co., NC. He was closely associated with the Henderson family and may have been administrator of Henderson's estate. Many of the personal papers of Robert Burton are believed to be either at Duke University or at the North Carolina State Archives. I have seen notes made of them--one in which one of my ancestors was suing Robert Burton because of promises made by Henderson to my ancestor, Michael Stoner.) From Madison Co., KY DB Index: Agnes Harris, grantor; Jesse Winburn, grantee; Comr. Deed, 6 Jun 1815, K-564, 21 1/2 A. Otter Cr. Origins of McCord Family The origins of the McCord family are unknown. They may have been Scotch-Irish from Pennsylvania who migrated down the Shenandoah Valley. Since a land transaction by Christopher Harris and his wife Agnes was recorded in Augusta Co., VA, search for McCords in that county was made. Kentucky Residence Agnes Harris (widow by that time) appeared in the 1810 census of Madison Co., KY: Males: 16-26: 3. 45 & over: 2. Females: 26-45: 1. 45 & over: 1. Other: 1. Slaves: 10. Document of Agnes McCord 1 Jul 1794, Madison Co., KY. "Know all men by these [sic] that I Agnes Harris of the County of Madison and State of Kentucky [illegible but probably executrix] to the last will and Testament of Christopher Harris Deceased for Divers good causes and considerations me hereunto moving have appointed John Harris of the County of Albermarle [sic], and state of Virginia, my true and lawfull attorney for me and my heirs to Take all Lawfull ways and means whatsoever to carry into full & ample execution, the w[ill?] of the said Christvr Harris Deceased, according to the true Intent and Meaning of said will in as full and as single a manner as if I myself was personally present hereby Ratifying and confirming whatever my said attorney may legally do by virtue of these presents, In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this first day of July 1794. /s./ Agnes Harris /LS/ Robert Tevis Edward S...state (From Madison Co. DB C-186, film no. FHL 183,284] Agnes died prior to August. 1814. Madison Co., KY. Wills, 1814: At a court continued and held for Madison County on the 3rd day of Augt. 1814. This inventory and appraisment of the estate of Agnis Harris decd was returned and ordered to be recorded and the said has been done. (s) Will. Irvine, clk. Will Bk -- p. 244 Pursuant to an order of the County Court of Madison to us directed to settle with Overton Harris and John Bennett, Administrators of the Estate of Agness Harris deceased we the undersigned commissioners being first sworne do settle with the administrators and report as followers [sic] to wit To amount of sale Bill as C Report of Adm $1979.14 Page 245 By cash due Overton Harris on previous account 290 By Keley Receipt as cryer at sale 4 By Butler & Searcy Receipt for Coffin 2 By Clerks fee Bill 1.70 1/2 By Jas Nicholas Receipt apraisor 1 By Wm. Carr Receipt for smith's work 10.50 By Richardson Receipt as clerk to the sale 2 By Whiskey Drank at Sale 10 By B. Milner's Receipt for Nicking horse 8 By tax and leavy to be collected in 1815 8.50 By Overton Harris charges for servses [sic] as Administrator, Collecting, and paying away $1979.14 at 5 percent 98.95 By cash paid to commissioners at $1.50 each 4.50 By clerks fee Bill .50 ------- Ballance due the estate by administrators 441.65.42 ----------- As witness our hands and seal this 8th day August R. A. Sturgus (?) (seal) Humphrey Jones (seal) William Stone (seal) At a court held for Madison County on Monday the 6th day of May 1816 This settlement with John Bennett and Overton Harris administrators of Agness Harris deceased was returned and ordered to be recorded. Test Will Irvine Lack of Information on McCord Ancestry There is no information in the various attempted genealogies of the Harris family of Albemarle Co. and of early Kentucky on the family of Agnes McCord. However, we learn from Augusta Co. VA Will Book 3 that other McCords were in Albemarle Co. ca. 1762, and others were in Augusta Co. from 1749. Perhaps they migrated there from Pennsylvania. Apparently they were Presbyterians. Refer to biography of John McCord [Sr.]. Some of the McCords found in Lyman Chalkley's CHRONICLES OF THE SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENTS IN VIRGINIA are as follows. All were located in Augusta Co. unless the contrary is indicated: Martha McCord - deceased by 27 Feb 1749 James McCord, orphan of Wm. McCord - 1750. Later in the year James was of age (age 14 generally) to choose his own guardian. Sarah McCord's nuncupative will. Sister Mary; brother Adam. Joseph McCord's will, 25 Nov 1762. Wife Mary. Brother John. Mentions land near Moorman's River in Albemarle Co., where the Harrises also held land. Joseph McCord's estate - 18 Jun 1763; John McCord Jr.'s note; John McCord Sr.'s note; Benj. McCord's note; Adam McCord & James McCord's note. Wm. McCord's note; Thomas Grubbs note. [Grubbs is a family with whom the Harris family intermarried; perhaps the McCords had also intermarried with the Grubbs family.] E.W.Wallace. , ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hi, everyone, I apparently didn't get the original posting that prompted this response. Capt. Robert Harris (the son of Robert Harris and Mourning Glenn of Louisa & Albemarle Cos., VA), and the husband of Lucretia Brown Harris, did NOT die in 1796! [Where do people keep getting that year of death for Robert Harris who died in Surry Co., NC? It is not correct, and people should please stop posting it as though it is proven. The actual documents show that this information is not correct at all---this particular Robert Harris did not die until 1809 in Surry Co., NC. Please, everyone who has notations on this man, correct your notes for him.] This Robert Harris and his family had moved, along with his parents, from Louisa Co. to Albemarle Co., VA, near the end of his parents' lives. Robert Harris Sr., and his wife, Mourning Glenn, died there, and their wills are recorded there. I do have documentation for this family in Louisa Co., and other earlier families, but I only will post a couple of vital ones in Albemarle, and a portion of what is relevant in North Carolina. And, by the way, Benjamin Brown Sr. had a large number of children before he started "going for the B's"; only his younger children's names all started with the letter "B". Lucy Brown Harris died sometime before1806, and Robert died there in 1809. An additional document that I am including here is the will of Cornelius Dabney [second father-in-law of this Robert Harris' brother, Christopher Harris, whose second wife was apparently Cornelius' daughter. {Cornelius Dabney's daughter, the second wife of Christopher Harris, was the mother of a number of his children that are named in his 1794 Madison Co., KY will...}] Robert Harris [Sr.] of Surry Co., NC, wrote his will in 1806 and died in 1809 in Surry Co., NC. His land was on the Ararat River in Surry Co. [DNA proves that this Harris line matches to the family of my own William Harris, who died in 1848 in Wilkes Co., NC at the age of 96 {having removed from Culpeper, VA, to Surry, NC, then Wilkes, NC.} How they possibly are related is, as yet, undiscovered. My William Harris was illiterate, and this Robert Harris was quite wealthy, and his family had always been literate, as far as I can tell. It is a mystery.] Here is the brief but clear documentation for the lines of the couple of Robert Harrises of this line as I have found it. As E. W. states, if you use any of this information, please cite the sources in the correct way (the researchers spent many hours in their work, and they deserve the tribute to them, and acknowledgement of the copyrights thereof. We would certainly all be lost without their work, so please be respectful in this regard, and always post all sources.) Pam pamstone@cfl.rr.com ============================= Records Compiled by:Pamela Howerton Stone Ross pamstone@cfl.rr.com362 North Brevard Avenue Cocoa Beach, FL 32931-2936 ============================= Extracted from:KING, J. Estelle Stewart: Abstracts of Wills,Inventories, and Administration Accounts ofAlbemarle County, Virginia (1748-1800) AmherstCounty, Virginia (1761-1800); Published, 1940, by Author, Beverly Hills, CA.(No Copyright noted.)- *Will Book A begins p. 1 and ends p. 4. *Will Book B (Book 2) begins p. 5 and ends p. 30. *Will Book 3 begins p. 31 and ends p. 44. *Will Book 4 begins p. 45 and ends p. 47. - (NOTE: Alternative surname spellings added by me [Pam Stone] to help identify possible family units that may have used [or been called in various documents] surnames different from those in the text of these documents. No other spelling has been changed or added to the original abstracts. ---P.S.) p. 16: Will dtd.18 June 1765; Recorded 8 August 1765 Albemarle Co., VA, Book 2, p. 185: Will of Robert HARRIS. Son Christopher HARRIS to have 40 acres of and in Albemarle County, known as "Bear's Cornfield." After decease of wife, son William HARRIS to have all land I now hold in Albemarle County. Sons: Robert HARRIS, Tyre HARRIS and William HARRIS to have slaves. Wife Mowrnning (Mourning) HARRIS to have use of all lands during her life. Son William to be under direction of son-in-law John RODES. Exrs.: John RODES and William SHELTON. Wits.: Daniel MAUPIN, John MULLINS, Jr., William MAUPIN, and Connerly MULLINS - p. 23:8 May 1775; Recorded March Court 1776. Albemarle Co., VA, Book 2, p. 338: Will of Mourning HARRIS. Mentions will made by late husband, Robert HARRIS. Daughter-in-law Elizabeth HARRIS and "the rest of my children" (not named.) Exrs.: John RODES and William SHELTON. Wits.: James WOODSON, John GILLUM (GILLIAM), William TOMERLIN =================================== Extracted from: HOPKINS, William Lindsay: Some Wills From the Burned Counties of Virginia and Other Wills Not Listed in Virginia Wills and Administrations 1632-1800; Copyright, 1995, by W. L. Hopkins; Published, 1995, by Iberian Publishing Co., Athens, GA, USA --- p. 92 Will Dtd. 26 Oct 1764; Prob. 7 Feb 1765 Will of Cornelius DABNEY of Hanover Co. Wife Sarah DABNEY. Sons William DABNEY, John DABNEY and Cornelius DABNEY dec'd. Son-in-law C. HARRIS. Daughters Mary Elizabeth MAUPIN, Fanny MAUPIN and Anna THOMPSON. Exors.: John DABNEY and Henry TERRELL. (DABNEY, William H.: Sketch of the Dabneys of VA, 1888) ======================================== Extracted from: ABSHER, Mrs. W. O. [Ruby T.]: Surry County, North Carolina Records of Deeds; Copyright, 1981,by R. T. Absher; Published, 1975?, by R. T. Absher, North Wilkesboro, NC - Deed Books A & B = 1770-1783 Deed Book C = 1777-1788 - p. 20: Surry Co., NC Deed Book A, pp. 263-264 Deed dtd. 1 Apr 1778 Between Robert LANIER and Robert HARRIS, of Albemarle Co., Va., for 400 pounds Virginia money, 200 acres on the East side of the Tarrarat [Ararat] River...being part of a tract LANIER bought of Martin ARMSTRONG...line of Granville grant to John STUART...Signed: Robert Lanier Wits.: John HARRIS, Benjamin PETTIT, John LYNCH ========================================== Transcription Courtesy of Glenn Harris No. Carolina State Archives, Raleigh, North Carolina Will dtd. 10 July 1806; Probated November Term, 1809 Surry County Deed Book 3, Page 93 State of North Carolina Surry County Will of Robert Harris of the said county and state... Item- To Elijah Harris, my son, the land where Robert lived (originally bought from Robert Lanier.) Item- Whereas my sons, Tyree, Bezebel Brown, Bernice and daughter Lucretia have received 100 pounds of Virginia money out of my estate, and the rest of my children have not, namely Mourning Burch, Nancy Boon, the heirs of son Robert, Lucy Head, the heirs of Patsey Turner, to receive 100 pounds of Virginia money, except the heirs of Sarah Blackwell to receive 50 pounds. Item- To grand daughter Milly Harris, one horse and saddle, bed and furniture. Item-The rest of the estate to be divided equally between the above children except for Elijah who is to take no share but the land gave him. Executors- sons Bezebel Harris and Elijah Harris. Signed: Robert Harris Wits.: Joseph Forkner Jesse McKinney Elijah Davis ================================= Extracted from: LINN, Jo White: Surry Co., North Carolina, Will Abstracts, Vols. 1-3, 1771 - 1827; Indexed by Edith Montcalm Clark; Copyright,1974, by Jo White Linn; Published by Mrs. Stahle Linn, Jr., Salisbury, NC, USA p. 60: 10 July 1787; Recorded August Court 1787. Book 2, p. 77A. Will of Ratliff BOON (BOONE). Wife, Ruth, to have negroes, Ballar, Judge and Hannah. Daughter Rachel GIRLY (GURLEY, GURLY) to have $1.00. Son Joseph BOON gets negro man, Trial. Son Thomas gets negro man, Crombel. Dau. Charity CLICK gets negro boy Abraham. Son Ratliff BOON gets negro fellow Ned. Daughter Hester BOON gets negro girl Folline. Son James BOON gets negro fellow, Epin. Dau. Mary BOON gets negro girl Hager. Son Daniel BOON gets negro girl Vilate. Exr.: Son Ratliff BOON. Wits.: Robert HARRIS, Richard HAZELWOOD. Proved by Richard HAZELWOOD. [Note: Son Ratliff Jr. married Nancy Harris, daughter of Robert & Lucretia Brown Harris. Ratliff & Nancy moved to that part of District 96, South Carolina that later became Pendleton Co.--PHSR] p. 103: 7 Feb 1807 Vol. 3, p. 80. Will of William FORKNER. Wife Susanna to have 960 acre homeplace and adjacent lands during her widowhood, then to go to son Samuel who gets 400 acres with the dwelling house. Residue to Micajah and William "my other two youngest sons." Sons James and Martin to divide another 237 acre tract. Son Lewis to have the land in Stokes County. Sons Isaac and Pleasant have received their part. Daughter Vilate (Violet) JACKSON to have $220.00. Amer JACKSON to have Deskin HANEY's bonds. Daughter Mary [Carrie] HARRIS. Daughter Lucy to have negroes Anthony and Nicey. Exrs: Jesse FRANKLIN, Elijah HARRIS, John MARTIN. Wit: John SPARGER, Lewis P. CLARK, John FORKNER. (NOTE: Court Records of Augusta Co., VA, indicate that early Surry Co. residents William Terrell LEWIS and William FORKNER were from that VA location, and that William FORKNER [Sr.] had lived at Fort Lewis in Augusta, and removed to NC by May of 1767 [Augusta Co., VA, Court Order Book C, p. 344.] ) ====================================== [END OF POSTING] ====================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hdanw@aol.com>To: NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com; <HARRIS-HUNTERS-L@rootsweb.com>Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 11:19 PMSubject: [HARRIS-HUNTERS] Robert Harris & Lucretia Brown - Probably previously of Louisa Co., VADear ResearchersI have this *orphan* in my notes. Can anyone give me the source [say, abook or a film] of this *pick-up* on the internet?Have you got anything to add? Robert Harris is believed to be the son ofMajor Robert Harris of Louisa Co., VA and sometimes of Albemarle Co., VA.Lucretia is believed to be the daughter of Benjamin Brown, who named a good manyof sons with Biblical names beginning with B. [easy to distinguish them fromother Brown males].E-mail excerpt [unidentified by me] is below.E.W.WallacePicked up by a google.com search Aug 2003. Needs verification.- Capt. Robert Harris (3/8/1741-11/1796) (died Surry Co., NC) marriedLucretia Brown(1746- 1802) (children: Bernice Harris, Robert Harris, Elijah Harris,Nancy Harris (Boon), Bezaleel Brown Harris, Lucretia Harris, Mourning Harris(Burch), Lucy Harris (Head), Patsy Harris (Turner), Sarah Harris(Blackwell), Tyree Rodes Harris)************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HARRIS-HUNTERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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