This was sent to me by a friend who lives neat the church, but they have a fairly large cemetery in the back of the church if you're interested in grave markers. Plus, for those who are looking for connections to the Quakers of this area (Siloam and Level Cross areas), this would be a good time to meet some of the members to see if they can help you track down your Quaker ancestors. The Pine Hill Friends Meeting will hold their annual Bazaar on Saturday, November 10, beginning at seven o'clock - serving a big country breakfast. There will be crafts, a table of pound cakes, loaf cakes, cookies, chicken pies and canned goods. Bob Carter

Hey Susan! Enjoyed meeting you at the HARRISON reunion this past April. Hopefully it will happen again in 2008. Esker was my grandfather and he was a member of the Pine Hill Friends Meeting, which is about 5-7 miles west of Pilot Mtn on NC Hwy 268. I've been told his parents, Samuel Martin PATTERSON and Mary Alice LOGAN were part of the original founders of the church at that location and my aunt has a picture of them from about 1900 I think. Someone on this list knows more about the Quakers (Friends) and should be able to help you. Also, you can visit the Guilford College website here in Greensboro and they have an extensive collection. Bob Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Petersen in Northern California" <Lkn4kin@comcast.net> To: <ncsurry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:32 PM Subject: [NCSURRY] Quakers in Surry > > Esker Floyd Patterson's WWI draft reg states he was a member of the > Friend's. I would like to look into the meeting records for more > information. Which Friend's Monthly Meeting was in Surry County in the > early 1900s? How can I find these records? Are they available online? > > Susan > Sutter County, CA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Katherine

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Susan, I believe Elizabeth has already answered your question, in response to another query on the same list. The records for Surry have been abstracted in Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, which any self-respecting library genealogy room should have, either in print or on CD. You can use that as a starting point, but I'd recommend that you then order the relevant microfilms into your local Family History library branch for viewing. The originals are not online, as far as I know. The original records themselves, for this area of the country, are stored at the Friends Historical Collection at Guilford College in Greensboro, NC. If you have any particular questions for the archivist there, you can contact Gwen Erickson through this website: _http://www.guilford.edu/about_guilford/services_and_administration/library/fh c/_ (http://www.guilford.edu/about_guilford/services_and_administration/library/fhc/) Katherine Benbow ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

The Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy. Vol. I: (North Carolina Yearly Meeting) is online at Ancestry.com. It was published in 1936. I found no listing for Esker Patterson or Floyd Patterson. Wayne Till On 11/6/07 12:01 AM, "ncsurry-request@rootsweb.com" <ncsurry-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Esker Floyd Patterson's WWI draft reg states he was a member of the Friend's. > I would like to look into the meeting records for more information. Which > Friend's Monthly Meeting was in Surry County in the early 1900s? How can I > find these records? Are they available online? > > Susan > Sutter County, CA

There were many areas in NC counties named Beaver Dam or Beaver Creek, so you might have to pinpoint the location more than that. Research the land grants and deeds. Find out exactly which rivers and streams were nearby, and what neighbors they had and what rivers and creeks those deeds mention, and then try to determine the exact neighborhood. In working with Quaker ancestors, one detail that is often overlooked is the fact that the Hinshaw abstracts contain the records out of the Monthly Meetings only, which is where business and vital records were kept. The member's local (weekly) meeting, or Preparatory Meeting, may have been quite some distance away from the supervising MM, so people did not necessarily live in the vicinity of the MM. Hence, at times some families' records could vary from one MM to another, because they may have switched attending one local preparatory meeting with another PM that was also relatively nearby, but which was under another MM. And sometimes the PM's would change their affiliations, thereby causing the business and vital records to shift back and forth from one MM to another without the family changing their weekly practice. It's similar to people changing county jurisdictions without moving one inch. Also, it is good to keep in mind that Hinshaw's workers did not abstract all minutes of all meetings. And a lot of things that might interest the descendants were left out of the abstracts. Order the microfilm into your local Family History Center library for viewing. Katherine Benbow ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

>I just purchased a cd of the Gen of American Quakers to look for info on my >ancestors. >I know my family came from Surry Co., NC , GG grpa born there @1798 >Does anyone know what Quaker Meeting houses covered that area at that time. >Supposedly he lived on Beaver Dam Creek area in 1835. >if I could narrow it down I wouldn't have to look at all 1225 pages. Two meetings in Surry Co. in that time frame were Deep Creek, in the southern part of Surry, now Yadkin Co., and Westfield, in northern Surry near the Virginia border (probably the more likely one for you if they lived on Beaver Dam Creek). Don't limit yourself to these meetings, however, since Quakers moved around a lot. Fortunately, many of these moves were recorded - look for the abbreviations "gct" [granted certificate to] and "rec" or "recrq" [received, received by request]. For example, in a family I'm researching there was a lot of movement back and forth especially between Deep Creek and Cane Creek (present-day Alamance Co.). -- Elizabeth Harris ncgen@mindspring.com Personal genealogy webpage: http://www.duke.edu/web/chlamy Winston-Salem NC area genealogy: http://www.fmoran.com/ HOLDER DNA project: http://www.mindspring.com/~holderdna/

Esker Floyd Patterson's WWI draft reg states he was a member of the Friend's. I would like to look into the meeting records for more information. Which Friend's Monthly Meeting was in Surry County in the early 1900s? How can I find these records? Are they available online? Susan Sutter County, CA

Use the index....it will look every reference for what ever surname you are looking for....the search feature on the CD is one of it's best features. Marsha in WV Lt28Ret@aol.com wrote: >I just purchased a cd of the Gen of American Quakers to look for info on my >ancestors. >I know my family came from Surry Co., NC , GG grpa born there @1798 >Does anyone know what Quaker Meeting houses covered that area at that time. >Supposedly he lived on Beaver Dam Creek area in 1835. >if I could narrow it down I wouldn't have to look at all 1225 pages. >tks > > > >************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I just purchased a cd of the Gen of American Quakers to look for info on my ancestors. I know my family came from Surry Co., NC , GG grpa born there @1798 Does anyone know what Quaker Meeting houses covered that area at that time. Supposedly he lived on Beaver Dam Creek area in 1835. if I could narrow it down I wouldn't have to look at all 1225 pages. tks ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

I believe this information is true of a lot of North Carolina marriage bonds, many of which are on microfiche [at least the indexes and the bond number] at most LDS family history centers. (I believe Granville Co. bonds are NOT included.) Most of the time, I find the bondsman on a marriage bond, however, had close ties to the bride or to the groom--or both!!! So check him out. Also, check out the person giving consent, if the bride, in particular, is underage. For example, my ancestor got married in Stokes Co. ca 1787, and it seems his bondsman, who had an unusual surname, not only probably migrated from Maryland along with the main family, but also, he seems to have later married the groom's probably sister--at least she had the same surname as the groom. Always collect the associates. If the marriage proved to be invalid [bigamy, for example], the bondsman had to forfeit a good deal of money. So check him out!!! One noted genealogist from Salt Lake City says, When studying your ancestor, do a mini-census--check out the neighborhood. These people frequently migrated together, intermarried, etc. (In Granville Co., I find the witness, however, is generally the county clerk. Check him out, too. He was literate, and may appear in a LOT of the county records. Also, he may have inherited his job from his father!!!!) All our questions keeps us educating ourselves because genealogy is mainly detective work!!! And do we hate burned courthouses! E.W.Wallace ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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As I recall, the bonds didn't have the relationship mentioned. It wasn't until marriage certificates came into being in 1867 or 1868 that the parents of the bride and groom were on the certificate. Before that time I recall only seeing the bondsman and who married them. Bob Carter ----- Original Message ----- From: "sue ashby" <sueashby@earthlink.net> To: <Lt28Ret@aol.com>; <NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:44 PM Subject: [NCSURRY] Bond question >I think I responded without being really clear in your question.. > I checked the bond that you gave and there was nothing else written on > that bond of yours. > Just the info you gave.. Some of the bonds will say "son of ---- or > dau. of ----" and some say "additional information on bond" > The only way you will know what the 'additional information' is, is to > write for a copy of the original.. > Sorry... > Sue > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think I responded without being really clear in your question.. I checked the bond that you gave and there was nothing else written on that bond of yours. Just the info you gave.. Some of the bonds will say "son of ---- or dau. of ----" and some say "additional information on bond" The only way you will know what the 'additional information' is, is to write for a copy of the original.. Sorry... Sue

Some do and some do not, actually most do not. I checked my microfiche of the bonds and it does not say "additional information on bond". If there is anything on the bond other than what you gave, there will be this statement given. Otherwise, the only thing you can do is order the original bond, from the NC State Archives, using that record number. Hope this helps.. Sue ncsurry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >Today's Topics: > > 1. marriage bond (Lt28Ret@aol.com) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:21:29 EDT >From: Lt28Ret@aol.com >Subject: [NCSURRY] marriage bond >To: NCSURRY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <c3d.21569e7a.344e5239@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >If I provide the names, bond date, record number and date of marriage for a >marriage in Surry Co., is it possible to determine the parents of the bride >and/or groom? >The names are: >Razonnah McKiney and Churchwell Tucker >date of marriage: 11 jul 1823 >Bond # 000147901 >record # 01 233 >bondsman: Edward Moore >nc marriage bonds 1741-1868 > >tks > > > >************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the NCSURRY list administrator, send an email to >NCSURRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the NCSURRY mailing list, send an email to NCSURRY@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCSURRY-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of NCSURRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 49 >************************************** > > >

If I provide the names, bond date, record number and date of marriage for a marriage in Surry Co., is it possible to determine the parents of the bride and/or groom? The names are: Razonnah McKiney and Churchwell Tucker date of marriage: 11 jul 1823 Bond # 000147901 record # 01 233 bondsman: Edward Moore nc marriage bonds 1741-1868 tks ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Searching for the parents of Hezekiah Matthews, b. 1814 NC, and/or Rebecca Matthews, b. 1828 NC who married in Surry, NC on 26 SEP 1846. According to the marriage bond, Hezekiah was a "junior." The 1850 census for Surry County, South Division, shows Hezekiah Matthews, b. 1814 NC and Rebecca, b. 1828 NC. In the same county, there is another Hezekiah Matthews, b. 1821 NC with wife Martha, b. 1818 NC. According to posts on the Jester Family forum, the Hezekiah Matthews, b. 1821, who married Martha Davis, was also a "junior", the son of Hezekiah Matthews, b. abt 1790 and Rachel, and grandson of James Matthews, b. abt 1762 and Winnie Dean. The 1840 NC census lists only two Hezekiah Matthews, both living in Surry County next door to one another. The first was born 1770-1780, and the second, 1820-1825, presumably those listed in the paragraph above. John Matthews, b. 1810-1820 was living next door to them, probably another son of this Hezekiah Sr. The 1830 census in Surry lists only one Hezekiah Matthews, b. 1770-1780, with sons the age of this Hezekiah, Jr. and John. The 1830 census in the North District of Orange, NC lists a Kisiah Matthews, b. 1810-1820 with a female in the household of the same age, and no children. Wayne Till

If you have anyone in these wars, here's a great browse, I found this interesting book in Heritage Quest: "Abstract of Pensions of North Carolina Soldiers of the Revolution, War of 1812 and Indian Ward" -- compliled by Annie Walker Burns ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

I'm searching for the parents and/or siblings of Clarissa Jane Lee (1823-1900) who married Eli Norman in Wilkes County on 23 Dec 1849. I think she was born in Surry County. She and Eli are listed in Lower Division Wilkes in the 1860 census. I believe Eli died during the Civil War and Clarissa moved to Bryan, Surry where she is in the 1870 and 1880 censuses. Children listed in the censuses are Emily Elizabeth, Mary, Levi, Wm. H., James and Eli H. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Marie Chatman ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com