It may be of interest to Surry Co. listers that a Moore Family Reunion was held on last Saturday, October 16th. It was headquartered at the William Alfred Moore House in Mt. Airy. William Alfred Moore was a grandson of Rod(e)ham Moore who was the first of his line to be buried in a grave yard which is located in Patrick Co., VA on a slope overlooking the Ararat River and the intervening bottom land about four miles above the VA/NC state line. Highlinght of the occasion was the dedication of a new granite headstone for Rod(e)ham Moore. Donations were made to cover the cost of erecting similar headstones for his son William Moore and William's wife Jane Hanby, and for William and and Jane's son Harden H. Moore and Harden's wife Ann Scales. Some 70 descendants of Rod(e)ham Moore including their spouses were in attendance from the twelve different states. The writer also visited the cemetary at Hunter's Chapel Church which is located in Patrick Co. on Rte. 773 about a mile south of the Rod(e)ham Moore grave yard. In it are buried Harden's and Ann's daughter Elizabeth L. Moore and Elizabeth's husband Nathaniel Henry Scales, and Elizabeth and Nathaniel's son Robert Richard Scales and Willie Cordelia Moore. Willie C. was daughter of William T. Moore and Paulina Agnes Clement. William T. was another child of Harden and Ann. All of the persons mentioned above were my ancestors. Robert Richard Scales and Willie C. Moore were my grandparents. Anyone who thinks that he or she may be a descendant of Rod(e)ham Moore, kindly contact me at my e-mail address. State your name and possible connection. Richard K.

Cindy Goad wrote: > The early Church of England and the Presbyterian used banns as well as the Quakers in NC. Email me in > about a week as I have ordered some new Surry county books and I look these Brooks up for you. > Cindy in NC > Kyle & Evelyn Long wrote: > > > So what your saying is you did not have to be a quaker to be married by > > bann , I have some i can not locate and may never, I dont know where or > > how they were married it would have been around surry county NC about > > 1844 it was a Samuel Brooks who married Nancy Chappel then there is a > > Willaim Brooks who married Susanah ? in Surry Nc about 1837 my other > > dead end is a Moses Brooks who married elizabeth ? either in Surry Or > > yadkin around 1865 , these have been my brick walls for a long time > > caint find a thing on these marriges > > > > Belle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I

I am posting this for my cousin in Tennessee. She knows that Joseph H. DAVIS married Amanda Marie JARNAGIN (born 1/17/1820) on 12/7/1837 in Grainger, TN. Joseph DAVIS was from North Carolina. They had the following children: James, born 5/03/1840 and married Mary ALBRIGHT , born 1845 and died 11/15/1919) Amanda J., born 1/17/1844, died 2/05/1910 and married John ALBRIGHT born2/14/1848 and died 1/03/1929) She has never been able to find out anything about this Joseph H. DAVIS. If someone could help, I would be very grateful as my cousin is elderly and does not use a computer. Nina

So what your saying is you did not have to be a quaker to be married by bann , I have some i can not locate and may never, I dont know where or how they were married it would have been around surry county NC about 1844 it was a Samuel Brooks who married Nancy Chappel then there is a Willaim Brooks who married Susanah ? in Surry Nc about 1837 my other dead end is a Moses Brooks who married elizabeth ? either in Surry Or yadkin around 1865 , these have been my brick walls for a long time caint find a thing on these marriges Belle Cindy Goad wrote: > > I can only answer as to the early NC laws ,as to marriage bonds. In 1741 The NC General Assembly > passed a law requiring that marriages either be by license or banns. It was not until 1778 NC > recognized Quaker marriages many of the Quaker banns only exist in Quaker records. Many people > chose banns because there was no bond to be posted and they did not have to travel to courthouse > to secure license. It has been estimated that about 70, 000 NC marriages are lost as few church > records exist today. > > Hindshaw's Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy states:When both parties to a marriage > engagement were members in good standing, there was usually no reason why they might not apply to > the meeting, and receive permission to marry under its authority, but here were some exceptions. > Marriage between first cousins or others of close relationship was forbidden. Some couples > chose to marry out of meeting because it was quicker and without the formality which was > necessary in the Quaker meeting. > > Hope this helps > Cindy in NC > Welcome to my Genealogy web sites Evelyn Belle Brooks Long icq#15017803 mailto:[email protected] http://www.rootsweb.com/~txwilbar/index.html http://members.tripod.com/Rebecca_long/index.html http://www.my-ged.com/brooks http://www.my-ged.com/long If you love Quilting you might try our Cyber Bee site at rootsweb. http://www.crafts.rootsweb.com/~quilting/

Cindy Goad wrote: > Since so many of the Wilkes and Surry County lines are related I am > posting these two wills to the Surry and Wilkes list. > > Will of Moses Woodruff, 29 July 1816, Surry County NC > Wf Elizabeth > Daus: mary McBride, Jennett Woodruff, Lydia Pace, Hannah Moore, Pheby > Bryan > Sons: John allen Woodruff, Moses, Gideon > Proved Nov 1817 > > Will of Gideon Woodruff, 24 oct 1820 Surry County NC > Wife: Prudence > Sons: Cornelius, Samuel, David, Moses, Micajah, Allen, Abner > Daus: Mary McMickle, Elizabeth Nichelson, Phebe Berch, Jennet, Rebecca, > Lucinda > Prov Feb 1821

William Davis and Eliza Warf were married 17 Dec 1831 in Stokes Co., NC. In 1850 they were on the Pittsylvania Co.,VA census with the following children: Creed Oliver, Jacob Thomas, Humphrey, Minerva Jane, Eliza, Mary, Susan Catherine (my great-grandmother who married Leroy Henry Whitaker in Surry Co.) James Coleman and William Washington. In 1860, 1870 and 1880 they were in Surry Co., NC. I am stuck on this Davis family. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Will happily share info. Anne Whitaker McCracken Chesterfield, VA

I am looking to buy (new or used) a copy of: The Grayson County (VA) Heritage Book published, I believe, in 1995 by the Grayson County 1908 Courthouse Foundation. I have contacted both the Genealogy Society and the Courthouse Historical Foundation in Independence, VA, and neither of them have copies for sale nor have plans to have more printed. Thank you for any possible help. Jalanda Smith

--part1_0.6edf4469.25329758_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/10/99 8:35:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << > Beatitudes of a Family Genealogist > > Blessed are the great-grandmothers, > who hoarded newspaper clippings and old letters, > For they tell the story of their time. > Blessed are all the grandfathers who filed every legal document, > for this provides proof. > Blessed are the grandmothers who preserved family Bibles and diaries, > for this is our heritage. > Blessed are the fathers who elect officials > that answer letters of inquiry. > Blessed are the mothers who relate family traditions > and legends to the family, > for one of her children will surely remember. > Blessed are the relatives who fill in family sheets with extra data, > for them we owe the family history. > Blessed is any family whose members strive for the preservation of > records, > for theirs is a labor of love. > Blessed are the children who will never say > "Grandma, you've told that old story twice today!" > > > Source: Prairieland Pioneer, Prarieland Genealogical Society, Marshal > MN. > > >> --part1_0.6edf4469.25329758_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:35:02 -0400 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (v61.13) with ESMTP; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:34:46 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01142; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <[email protected]> From: "Roland Elliott" <[email protected]> Old-To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:35:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [KYBATH] Beatitudes of a Family Genealogist Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/2313 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Subject: [KENNEY-L] Beatitudes of a Family Genealogist > Beatitudes of a Family Genealogist > > Blessed are the great-grandmothers, > who hoarded newspaper clippings and old letters, > For they tell the story of their time. > Blessed are all the grandfathers who filed every legal document, > for this provides proof. > Blessed are the grandmothers who preserved family Bibles and diaries, > for this is our heritage. > Blessed are the fathers who elect officials > that answer letters of inquiry. > Blessed are the mothers who relate family traditions > and legends to the family, > for one of her children will surely remember. > Blessed are the relatives who fill in family sheets with extra data, > for them we owe the family history. > Blessed is any family whose members strive for the preservation of > records, > for theirs is a labor of love. > Blessed are the children who will never say > "Grandma, you've told that old story twice today!" > > > Source: Prairieland Pioneer, Prarieland Genealogical Society, Marshal > MN. > > > ==== KENNEY Mailing List ==== > Have you visited Rootsweb lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Support free genealogy on the Internet! Join RootsWeb.com today! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > --part1_0.6edf4469.25329758_boundary--

Nancy Pfannenstiel wrote: "On another note, I have a "cousin " thinking I ought to send them copies of some estate papers I got from NC archives. My feeling is I can run myself ragged making copies for people when they can get it for themselves from the NC Archives just like I did. I don't mind copying Bible records, or photos, etc that is not in the public domain... but I guess I just resent people asking me to give them what they could just as easily get for themselves. am I out of line here?" No, Nancy, you are not out of line. Especially if the other person has equal access. But if you are going - and have told others, they may have considered this information as something you are willing to share. I'm often the one who must ask for help and lookups when I get stuck and can't find what I need on the net or by regular mail. That's because I live in Norway and my family and ancestors have been in the U.S. since the 1600's. But I try to even it out by supplying copies of documents and other information I already have with those who need it. Grandpa created beautiful works of art - inlaid tables and chests. And he never sold anything. He gave it away. He just asked that the receiver "paid" for the article by performing an act of kindness to someone they meet along their way. If you feel it's too much, or it is an imposition, don't advertise your plans or please just tell them how you feel. I would feel terrible if I later learned that someone felt "used" or "imposed upon" in order to meet my request, but hadn't told me. Better at they tell me they are too busy or don't have the time. I think most people feel the same. One last thought: When I was young - and had a lot of questions - I never got an answer before I tried to find the answer by myself! Eventually, I found out that looking for information was much more rewarding than having it "served up". Maybe a good motto for all of us would be "Look first - ask later". Sharon ______________________________

Zanetti wrote: > I have the book, Fisher's River (North Carolina): Scenes and Characters > written by "Skitt" "Who was raised Thar" (Harden Taliaferro) > > The book was first published in 1859 - humorous tales of those who lived > along Fisher's River - considered folklore, but real people named. > > Harden was born ca. 1818 and died in 1875. > > nz --

At 8:55 PM -0700 10/4/1999, [email protected] wrote: >I have no Taliaferros in my line but since you seem to be interested >in the surname I thought maybe this note might help. Thanks Glenn, I don't have any Taliaferros either but I'm glad to know they were here, in Virginia it's practically a royal name <bowing respectfully> --- Mike Warren <http://www.netunlimited.net/~mwarren/> Sine Nomine Farm, Tobaccoville, NC

Mike, Just a quick note here. Noticed the Taliaferro surname in your post below. I am looking hard for Harris and Blackwell in Surry Co., NC and have seen the Taliaferro surname many times in deeds, marriage bonds, and court papers etc. The time frame is from the eariest records I can find (1770's) to about 1810. I seem to remember a Joseph Taliafero for some reason. This all from LDS tapes I checked out. I have no Taliaferros in my line but since you seem to be interested in the surname I thought maybe this note might help. Happy hunting, Glenn Harris On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:58:57 -0400 Mike Warren <[email protected]> writes: > At 9:45 AM -0700 10/3/1999, Cindy in NC wrote: > >> All of these men received NC land Grants 9 Nov 1787 in Surry > county > > Thanks Cindy for the list, which had one of mine, Gray Bynum. I > didn't > know there were any Taliaferros in Surry. Where did you get this > list? > I'd like to cite it in my documentation. > > --- > Mike Warren <http://www.netunlimited.net/~mwarren/> > Sine Nomine Farm, Tobaccoville, NC > > > > ==== NCSURRY Mailing List ==== > Surry County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.geocities.com/~surryco > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

At 9:45 AM -0700 10/3/1999, Cindy in NC wrote: >> All of these men received NC land Grants 9 Nov 1787 in Surry county Thanks Cindy for the list, which had one of mine, Gray Bynum. I didn't know there were any Taliaferros in Surry. Where did you get this list? I'd like to cite it in my documentation. --- Mike Warren <http://www.netunlimited.net/~mwarren/> Sine Nomine Farm, Tobaccoville, NC

I don't have a copy of the 1800 Surry co census, have just had access to several indexes. things just down't seem right. People who I know are neighbors don't seem to be listed near each other on the census and people with the same surname ( and I don't have a clue who they are) seem to be on the same page. Is this census by any chance alphbetical rather than by order of residence? On another note, I have a "cousin " thinking I ought to send them copies of some estate papers I got from NC archives. My feeling is I can run myself ragged making copies for people when they can get it for themselves from the NC Archives just like I did. I don't mind copying Bible records, or photos, etc that is not in the public domain... but I guess I just resent people asking me to give them what they could just as easily get for themselves. am I out of line here? Nancy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Hi All, I'm trying to track down Harris families. What I can tell you is that my Robert Harris was born 1795, in VA? We are told that his father is Robert Harris from NC....at one time we had thought Mecklenberg Co. NC but I've been unable to find the connection. I've found some other Robert's in different counties of NC and I'm trying to follow up on them. My Robert married Sarah (Sally) Carson in Rockbridge Co. VA in 1818. They had seven children. Hope to hear from someone that may know of this Robert Harris family. Thanks Julie ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com

Forwarded for Cindy Goad <[email protected]> Cindy Goad wrote: > Someone asked me to see what I could find on the Hadley surname, but I > cannot find the email, so i hope whoever will see this posting. > > Will of Bridget Hadley, 17 May 1803, Surry County NC . Recorded Feb > 1808. > Bridget was the wife of Simon Hadley. Sons: thomas and Simon each to > have l English Crown. 4 daughters: Ann Lacky, Patience Baker, Margret > Martin, Ruth Marshall. > Wit: William Hough, William Hinshaw, John Stanfield. Exrs: son Thomas > and son-in-law Joseph Marshall. > > Will of Simon Hadley, Sr. l Mar. 1803. Recorded May 1803. > Sons: Thomas, Simon, Jr. 4 Daus. Son-in-laws: Thomas Lakey and wife > Ann; Francis Baker and wife, Patience; john Martin and wife margaret; > John Marshall and wife Ruth. Grandsons: John and Simon Martin; > > Simon hadley was a birthright Quaker , born 5 mar 1737, New Castle > County, Delware; > died 24 March 1803, Surry county. Married Bridget b. 17 Ap 1732, died > l5 Dec l807; > Son Simon was born 6 Oct l765, died 8 oct l83l, wife Elizabeth. > Daughter Patience was > dismissed in l78l for marrying out of unity. Ruth born ll May l770, was > dismissed in l79l for marrying too close to kin. > > Surry couonty Marriage bonds > Hadley, John S and ______ 30 Dec l839, hiram Lovil, bondsman > Simon and mary Spenser 9 Jan 1786, John Martain, bondsman > Spencer and Carroline Wilson, 22 Sep 1828, George Raynolds, > bondsman > Bidy and William Hobson, 10 Nov 1808, Benjamin Hutchens, > bondsman > Anne and David Hobson, 9 Feb 1809, Thomas Vestal bondsman > > Other Hadley Marriages > Hadley, James and jeane Newel 16 Jul 1798 Cabarrus county NC > John and Judith Cope 22 Jul 1798 Cabarrus county NC > Susanna and Jenkins Farmer 29 Aug 1798 Johnston county NC > > Cindy inNC --

Forwarded for Cindy Goad <[email protected]> Cindy Goad wrote: > All of these men received NC land Grants 9 Nov 1787 in Surry county > James Moore 400 A > Abraham Howard, 100 A and 150 A > William Howard 200 A > Richard Horn 100 A, 320 A > William Johnson 300 A > Edmond Hodges 400 > John Taliaferro 200 A,640 A, > Richard Taliaferro 300 A > Richard Clampet 466 A > Gray Bynum 200A > Job Martin 640 > Phillip clayton 100 A > John Connel 200 A and 200 A > Arthur Tate 200 A > William Venable 400 A > Henry Banister 300 A > John Blalock 309 A, 100 A, 100 A > William Sparks 200 A > Johm Merrit 250 a > William Head 640 A > Rodham Moore 500 A > Samuel Gentry 100 A > Joseph Gentry 150 A > Thomas Jacks 250 A > Harris Revis 640 A > Nicholas Hutchens 400 A, 50 A > John Henshaw 200 A > Abraham Reese 500 A > Philemon Holcomb 200 A > Simon Hadley 200 A > John Allen 400 A > James Lindsey 640 A > Greenberry Patterson 500 A > George Hoppis 640 A > James Fielder 200 A > > NC grants were also give to Mary Eason 300, 200, 100 > > Cindy in NC --

Hi, Sorry to send this to the list but I am trying to contact Barty Bryant about his Midkiff line and his mail keeps coming back. Is he on this list???? Rachel [email protected]

I am looking for leads connected to ISHAM SIMMONS, his son THOMAS SIMMONS and Thomas's wife ZILPHA. It is likely, but not certain, that related families will be found in SURRY and ROCKINGHAM COUNTIES, NORTH CAROLINA, and nearby counties in SOUTHERN VIRGINIA. There may be a MONROE COUNTY, KENTUCKY, connection. They certainly had connections in HOWARD AND LINN COUNTIES, MISSOURI. THOMAS SIMMONS, born in Virginia, probably about 1795, was awarded a Missouri land grant of 160 acres as a bounty for his service in the War of 1812 He is said to have been among the first settlers in Prairie Township of HOWARD COUNTY, MISSOURI, settling there between 1819 and 1825. The name of one Thomas Simons (sic) appeared in the 1830 federal census of Howard County. In 1840 he and is family still lived in Howard County. In 1850 Thomas Simmons, then 55 (born about 1795 in Virginia), was living in LINN COUNTY, MISSOURI, in the household of Jesse L. Baskett, an in-law. Thomas died before 1860. His wife, ZILPHA SIMMONS, was born about 1796 in North Carolina. She died in Howard County, Missouri, in February, 1860. I know nothing more of her. It is known that THOMAS SIMMONS'S father was ISHAM SIMMONS, whose will was filed in Howard County in 1838 (though I am not certain that Isham lived in that county at the time of his death). He is known to me only from his will. As to the family, North Carolina and Virginia connections are known from the reported birthplaces of THOMAS and ZILPHA SIMMONS. ISHAM SIMMONS appears to have had similar connections. The name of an ISHAM SIMMONS is found in the 1790 census of ROCKINGHAM COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA. The 1800 census found ISHAM SIMMONS in SURRY COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA. From the census it may be inferred that Isham and his wife were born about 1775. A young son in the family was probably Thomas. While others named Simmons were found in Surry County in 1810 and 1820, Isham was not found. Perhaps he lived in Virginia (where the censuses are mostly lost). In 1820, there was an ISHAM SIMMONS who lived in MONROE COUNTY, KENTUCKY, along the southern border of that state. In 1830, an "ISOM" SIMMONS lived in Tompkinsville Township of in the same county. ISHAM was not found in Missouri, and it may be that the Kentucky listing was for this Simmons. The name of ISHAM SIMMONS has been found in HOWARD COUNTY, MISSOURI, only in connection with the will filed there in 1838. I'll appreciate any information that may be offered. Gerald Pierce

In Grayson county marriage bonds there is a Lucinda Hanks and David Davis, married by William Carrico on 1 Oct 1835( this was a minister's return, bond not found. A William Hanks is shown as the step-father on the bond for his step daughter Sally Carrico when she married John M. Fulks on Apr 30, 1822. Do you have the sketch on joshua Hanks who was the father of your William? There is quite a bit about this Hanks family in the Book Caroll 1765-1815, the Settlements by Perry Alderman. Joshua was a Quaker and provided land for the Quaker meeting house and is buried there. In Joshua's will he names William, mary, Nancy, Lydia, Patience, Rhoda, Thursa, Ruth and Susanna. It does not mention Rebecca Carrico who had died years earlier. Apparently several of his married Moores, Nancy, Lydia, Thomas. There were about l5 children in his family. William hanks who died in 1868 was married four times, but it doesn't list any of his wifes. I will be happy to copy this and snail mail it to you if you will contact me privately. Cindy in NC > Dear Gerri Ann, > Do you have anything on a Martha Moore who married a William Hanks??? They > would > have been born in 1790's. They had a daughter Lucinda Hanks,b. 22 Sept. 1819. > This is all > I have at the moment. They were eventually in Grayson Co., NC. > Thanks, Judy Alias [email protected] > > gerri ann lockman wrote: > > > Does anyone have info about John Moore X Nancy Roberts Moore. Their Children > > were Joel , George and Ruth. Ruth m. Issaic Estep. Joel and Ruth were > > supposed to have gone to IN. What did George do , stay in Surry.? I wish I > > could get all these Georges separated and keep them where they belong! Now > > I hear there was one in Rowan , 1790 and another in VA , on the Matapony , > > but not sure if he traveled to NC or not. That makes 4 . I started with > > George Moore, 1790 census, Surry. Father of Mary Moore who marr. Joseph > > Stanley Jr. 1802, Rowan. I'm getting dizzy from Georges. Help. Thanks,,, > > Gerri Ann > > > > ==== NCSURRY Mailing List ==== > > Surry County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > > http://www.geocities.com/~surryco > > ==== NCSURRY Mailing List ==== > Surry County, North Carolina NCGenWeb > http://www.geocities.com/~surryco