Thanks, Marilyn, for your kind words! I can't answer most of the questions you raise, but they're good ones. Can anyone else answer them? We have enough people on this list now that this kind of exchange should be very productive. >Isaac BONER married Dorothea (Dorel) Elizabeth MEYER, 8 Aug 1797. >Dorothea was the daughter of Jacob Meyer & younger sister of (Phillip) >Jacob Myers. I do not know what Boner family Isaac comes from but he >was a hatter & had several apprentices residing with his young family in >Bethania, 1810. I believe Isaac BONER (17 Dec 1776 - 3 Aug 1858) was the son of Joseph Wilhelm BONER (b. 1747?) and Margaret ELROD (1752-1820), who married in May 1771 in Hope, Forsyth Co. I have a problem with Joseph Boner's death date, however. ELROD family records (Dr. Parker Elrod) give it as 29 Jul 1785. The Hope Moravian graveyard (from the Forsyth Co. cemetery records books) has Joseph W. Boner age 37 years, died 13 Aug 1786. Either of these dates presents another problem as well. The Elrod family material I have says that Joseph and Margaret's youngest daughter Alsha (or Aaltje) was born 12 Jul 1787, which is inconsistent with either of the death dates given above. Can anybody clarify this? Dr. Parker Elrod, who is now deceased, compiled copious notes on the Elrod family. Various ones of us Elrod descendants have circulated photocopies of these. They are quite useful, but not always internally consistent. Marilyn wrote: >Isaac BONER married Dorothea (Dorel) Elizabeth MEYER, 8 Aug 1797. >Dorothea was the daughter of Jacob Meyer & younger sister of (Phillip) >Jacob Myers. I do not know what Boner family Isaac comes from but he >was a hatter & had several apprentices residing with his young family in >Bethania, 1810. He & Dorothea Elizabeth were lifetime members of the >Moravian Church in Stokes Co. and are well documented in Adelaide Fries, >Records of the Moravians in NC. I would like to find someone currently >researching this family that is a descendant of Isaac & Dorothea. They >had four sons and one daughter. Marilyn alludes to the Records of the Moravians in NC. I hope the copyright holders for this work will forgive me a brief quote concerning this couple: Records 6:2592. "Salem Board Minutes (Aelt. Conf.). Last evening the two single women, Dorothea Meyer and Salome Nissen, left the congregation secretly and in a most unseemly manner. The former proposes to marry Isaac Booner and the latter Jacob Schaub, by whom they were taken away. In the girls' school the place of Dorothea Meyer [as teacher of the older girls] becomes vacant." There is a footnote to this page: "Both couples were married on the day they left Salem. They lived near Bethania, and Jacob and Salome Schaub joined the Bethania congregation. Isaac and Dorothea Boner ultimately returned to Salem, and became the grandparents of the poet, John Henry Boner, and of Joshua Boner, mayor of Salem at the time of the so-called "Stoneman's raid" near the close of the War between the States." Finally, regarding Marilyn's other comment: >The HELSABECK family, can be found on The Shouse House page & again, the >Jarvis Family Home Page. John, if you don't find the parents of Eva >Maria Helsabeck who married Johann Adam Fiscus on the Jarvis Page I am >sure someone will step in and let you know. The List of children I have >for Jacob Helsabeck & Eva Maria Fiscus do not include the name of an Eva >Maria Helsebeck. I haven't checked to see what Faye and I have on our web page yet, but my personal database agrees with Marilyn, no child named Eva Maria Helsabeck for Jacob Helsabeck and Eva Maria Fiscus. It wouldn't have been unreasonable for them to have had one with this name, however. Are we missing one? Or does she belong to someone else? Elizabeth Harris [email protected] state coordinator for NCGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/