At 12:50 PM -0500 12/6/1998, Janice Shives wrote: >As I remember there were no changes at all to the services or the doctrine >when >the merger took place, so I think you can assume that Evangelical United >Brethern has been very similiar to Methodist for many, many years. Hi Janice, This is very interesting! Do you know whether it was only your congregation or was it church-wide? The Moravians and Methodists have a long history. Here are some of my notes on the Moravian Church during the Zinzendorf period. You will see Charles and John Wesley, who founded the Methodists, mentioned several times: 1732: Herrnhut, Saxony - first Easter Sunrise service on God's Acre <Sun 1732: Herrnhut, Saxony - arrival of Lutheran minister Augustus Spangenberg <Lang 84 1732: West Indies - arrival of Moravian missionaries <Frie vi 1733: Greenland - arrival of Moravian missionaries <Lang 86 1734: Zinzendorf ordained minister <Lang 86 1735: Georgia - Moravian colonists arrive under leadership of Spangenberg <Frie vi, Lang 86 1735: Lapland - arrival of Moravian missionaries among Swedish Laplanders <Lang 87 1735: David Nitschmann sent to Lizza Poland to be ordained bishop by Dr. Jablonsky, elder bishop of the Brethern <Lang 88 1735: Zinzendorf exiled from Saxony <Lang 88 1735: Surinam - 3 missionaries sent <Lang 160 1735 - 1737: Georgia - Charles and John WESLEY, with Bishop Nitschmann and 25 Moravians, travel to Georgia; impressed with the faith of the Brethern <Lang 99 1736: Ronneberg and Marienborn (later called Herrnhaag = Lord's Grove) - Zinzendorf establishes colonies in ruined castles of brother in law <Lang 91 1736: Marienborn - first Synod of the Reconstituted Church of the Brethern <Lang 93 1737: Herrnhut, Saxony - Second commission from King of Saxony acquits the Brethern of blame (heresey and encouragement of Bohemian emigration) <Lang 90 1737: Zinzendorf visits England, meets with General Oglethorpe re. Georgia <Lang 94 1737: London - archbishop of Cantebury grants Brethren right to preach to the heathens in English colonies <Lang 94 1737: Berlin - Zinzendorf ordained bishop <Lang 95 1738: London - John and Charles WESLEY, under influence of Moravian Peter Boehler, experience evangelical conversion in May <Lang 104 1738: London - first meeting of Temple Bar society on May 1; society soon comes under Moravian influence; later becomes Fetter Lane society <Lang 118 1738: Herrnhut, Saxony - John WESLEY, Benjamin Ingham, and John Toeltschig visit Moravians Jun - Aug <Lang 106 1738: Herrnhaag becomes resting place for missionaries <Lang 134 1738 -1740: Surinam - more missionaries sent <Lang 160 1739: West Indies - Zinzendorf visits missions in St. Thomas <Lang 96 1739 - 1740: London - John WESLEY breaks with Moravians over 'stillness' issue which is later refuted by Moravians <Lang 120 1740: Pennsylvania - Moravian colonists arrive <Frie vi 1740: Synod at Gotha establishes church's mode of operation as 'free congregation of Jesus' working with other churches; make no attempt to proselytize; adopted 'diaspora' method of establishing 'societies' rather than Brethren churches in their mission <Lang 111 1740: Last of the brethren leave Georgia and settle on METHODIST George Whitefield's land in Nazareth, Pennsylvania <Lang 113 1740: Bethlehem, PA - land for settlement offered to David Nitschmann and newly arrived Moravians <Lang 114 1741: Church leaders vote not to replace chief elder Dober and accept Christ alone as chief elder <Lang 112 1741: Zinzendorf resigns as bishop; David Nitschmann, inspector of the seminary, elected at Herrnhaag <Lang 113 1741 - 1742 : Bethlehem, PA - Zinzendorf visits under disguise as Luthern minister; tries to establish unity of German settlers of various sects <Lang 113-117 1742: Zinzendorf makes last of three visits among Indians whom Christian Henry Rauch had evangelized <Lang 115 1743 - 1750: London - Moravians infected by excess of sentimental language and frivolous use of the lot <Lang 123 1745: Surinam - Moravians leave colony for Pennsylvania and Rio de Berbice <Lang 160 1746: Ireland - John Cennick established society in Dublin and a colony (Gracehill) in Northern Ireland <Lang 132 1747: Saxony - royal decree ends Zinzendorf's exile <Lang 134 1748 - 1750: Herrnhaag - disputes with the House of Buedingen leads to Brethern leaving colony; 90 single men to Pennsylvania, others to Saxony, Silesia, Holland, etc <Lang 135 1749: London - Church of the Brethren recognized by Parliament and Crown <Lang 133 1749: Saxony - Brethern given right to from settlements anywhere in Saxony <Lang 135 1751: Herrnhut, Saxony - death of Christian David <Lang 137 1753 - : London - Zinzendorf's Lindsay House is church headquarters <Lang 136 1755 - 1757: Surniam - missionaries attempt to reestablish colony <Lang 161 1757: Herrnhut, Saxony - following the death Countess, Count Zinzendorf marries Anna Nitschmann and takes up residence in Herrnhut <Lang 138 1760: Herrnhut, Saxony - in presence of 100 people Zinzendorf dies on May 9 <Lang 138 Taken mostly from: <LANG Langton, Edward; History of the Moravian Church; the Story of the First International Protestant Church; London, George Allen & Unwin Ltd, 1956. (King library) --- Mike Warren <http://www.netunlimited.net/~mwarren> Sine Nomine Farm, Tobaccoville, NC