Hi: I saw your posting and have the information you need. He works with the Smokey Mtn. Kin website I use often. It is a great resource of information, and you might be able to research what you need online. The address is: http://www.smokykin.com/ David L. Beckwith's email address is: beckwith@interaccess.com Good luck in your search. Loretta Husky Cozart