hi listers I am new to list and wonder if anyone has any information on Moses McSpadden? he was borned about 1754 inVa? Would like to know his parents and children names. thanks loretta johnson

NEED INFO on JOHN MCVOY/JUAN MAKBOY who emigrated to US from IRELAND or SCOTLAND c.mid 700's. It has been written that he came to the CAROLINAS first in some sources and other sources say that he came to SAVANNAH. There was a JOSEPH MCVOY in LEXINGTON DIST in SC in the later 1700's who married a MARRY KILLIAM. JOHN/JUAN's name was MCAVOY, but spelled it MAKBOY,MACABOY, and he had at least 4 children that I know of, perhaps 6. His wife was ISABEL(YSABELLA)MELSA(MELOS)INDESA MAKBOY(MCAVOY/MCVOY/MACABOY) who was either ENGLISH or SPANISH. (Conflicting sources of info.) THEIR CHILDREN are listed as JOAQUIN,ANN,GUILLERMO(WILLIAM,SR.),DIEGO,SR. OTHERS may have been the JOSEPH of SC listed above (or was he JOHN'S brother?) and ALEXANDER,b.1791. The family eventually moved to PENSACOLA/FL and MOBILE/AL areas of what was then known as SPANISH WEST FLORIDA. THEY CHANGED THE SPELLING OF THEIR SURNAME TO MCVOY and apparently YSABELLA MELSA INDESA had "AMERICANIZED" the spelling of her name to 'ELIZABETH MILLER.' I was told by another source that perhaps MELSA was the name of an occupation,such as a MILLER or farmer in CZECH. Perhaps her name change was simply a translation.???? MCVOYS were still in the CAROLINAS in the 1800's and there were records in the 1900s around Gaston Co. DOES anyone recognize this MCVOY surname and have any info on the above family? Thank you. BONNIE MCVOY TREON gatreon@ctc.net

Some time ago, I began some research attempting to solve a long standing mystery in North Carolina Davidson history: who was Sarah Davidson, wife of Lambert Clayton. This article is going to offer an new theory. The story is not proved yet, but we now have a plausible story that fits the known facts. I am sharing this with everyone now as I suspect that some one of you may have a clue that helps complete the story. The existing mythology is that Sarah Davidson was the daughter of John Davidson and Nancy Brevard who were killed by Indians in 1764 or 1776 or 1779 or 1782. The first problem that people have with this part of the story is that they do not know which John Davidson it was. It was not "Old John" Davidson who was born in Ireland about 1709. He died in North Carolina in 1749 and his history is somewhat well documented. It was not his son John "One-Eye" Davidson, born in Beverly Manor in Augusta Co., VA and baptised on 24 Nov 1744 in Tinkling Spring. He died in 1825 in Maury County, TN and his family is fairly well documented. The John Davidson that was killed, probably in 1782, was known as Judge John D. Davidson. He was the first son of Col. George Davidson (b. 1728, Ireland), son of "Old John" Davidson, brother of "One Eye" John Davidson. John was born about 1750 in Rowan Co. (known as Anson Co. at the time). Nancy Brevard was the daughter of John Brevard and Jane McWhorter of Rowan County, and she was born about 1757. They were married in Rowan County, NC in 1779. Lambert Clayton was born in Delaware in 1755. His wife, Sarah Davidson, is known to have been born in 1759 and died in 1843. The were married in 1782 in Rowan County. These facts are well documented. >From this, it is obvious that Sarah Davidson could NOT be the daughter of John Davidson and Nancy Brevard. This led me to research all of the known Davidson families in the area to see where a Sarah could fit. (E.g., Family of Joseph, Family of Alexander, Family of Samuel of Augusta Co., VA - including sons James and Benjamin, John Davidson of Mecklenburg Co., NC, George Davidson - Old John's Brother). I needed to find a Sarah, born about 1759, and most families already had a Sarah accounted for. I also looked into the possibility that Sarah might have been a young widow. But I could not within those families find a man who had married a Sarah, who could have been born in 1759, who had died before 1782. But this is trickier as we are now looking 20 years later when more families entered the area and more possibilities exist. But, my conclusion was that the most-likely family that had a possible fit was the family of George Davidson's brother Thomas Davidson (b. abt. 1730, Ireland) whose family history has not been documented anywhere that I have found. Little has been recorded about this Thomas Davidson. What was known is that he went to Charleston and died there and left a family. It had also been alluded to that he was the Thomas Davidson who served in the Revolution and was at Cowan's Ford with Gen. Davidson. Based on this, I began inquiries with the South Carolina Dept. of Archives and History concerning wills, deeds, and any other documents extant mentioning Thomas Davidson. I found two distinct individuals. 1. I found a Thomas Davidson of Culleton Co. who was married to a Rosanna, who served in the War and drew a pension, and died in November 1807. I have not yet found a will for this individual or any estate papers. The papers that I do have talk about a man with young children. Based on the census reports, I am going to suggest that this Thomas Davidson was born in the 1760s. This is not my candidate. However, based on the documents that I now have, I think that this individual is somehow tied into the family. 2. I found a Thomas Davidson who left a will in 1764 in Charleston County. He addressed it to two of his brothers George and William to act as his executors. His wife's name was Sarah and he mentions a daughter Sarah. His land was based on a grant from Matthew Rowan on Fishing Creek given in 1754 that because of a boundary change between North and South Carolina became part of South Carolina. I have the following documents: a WPA transcript of this will; a copy of the original clerk's copy that the WPA transcript was made from; a copy of a Mar 1775 document - part of a series of actions that were being made at the time to sort out land that was changing province as a result of the new boundary between NC and SC-: from George Davidson that identifies the source of the land patent from Matthew Rowan to Thomas Davidson, deceased. It also identifies George Davidson as the current owner. a copy of an Indenture made 3 June 1778 between Sarah Davidson of Rowan County and Thomas and Samuel Carson of Camden District, Craven Co., SC regarding the sale of the land. I believe that this Thomas Davidson is the son of Old John Davidson, and that he and his wife Sarah are very likely to be the parents of the Sarah Davidson who married Lambert Clayton. Further, I believe, although more work needs to be done in North Carolina records, that Sarah Davidson and her daughter went back to Rowan County to live with the family of Col. George Davidson, her brother-in-law, (or maybe she went to live with her own family in Rowan Co. that is still unidentified.) What is left to be proved? First, we need to find some way to prove that this daughter Sarah was the Sarah who married Lambert Clayton. This may prove difficult unless we can find some record of her mother's death and a will to go along with it. However, we have an interesting link, just in the names of the children. One of the sons of Lambert and Sarah was named Thomas Davidson Clayton. Further, there were grand children named Thomas Davidson Clayton, Thomas Davidson Orr and Thomas Davidson Brittain. In fact, I have found no instance in the first, second, and third generation of the name Davidson being associated with any male name other than Thomas. I contend as a working scenario it fits much better than anything else. Of course, if any one has evidentiary documents that show anything else, please feel free to share them with me. Second, I would like to address who was the second Thomas Davidson. Now this is going to be a stretch, but some of the associations in the documentation suggests that he might be a son of the first Thomas Davidson who was born after his father wrote the will. Third, who were Sarah, Thomas Davidson's parents. There is one story that the name Scott is somehow involved with the family. There was definitely a Scott family in the area where they lived in SC as I have a document signed by a Scott. Sarah, who would have been born about 1740, could also be from a number of the early families in Rowan County. I suspect that because of the story dealing with the Brevard family, that she might turn out to be a Brevard. And that she might have lived with them after Tom's death and not with the Davidsons. It is even possible that Tom's died so young (abt 34) because he was wounded in an Indian raid. The whole story is not opened to us yet, but, I believe, that you will agree that it is getting more plausible. Your comments please. john. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= John B. Lisle <jbl@tqsi.com> P.O. Box 602, Lexington, MA 02420 Phone: 781-270-1006 Fax: 781-270-1174

Some time ago, I began some research attempting to solve a long standing mystery in North Carolina Davidson history: who was Sarah Davidson, wife of Lambert Clayton. This article is going to offer an new theory. The story is not proved yet, but we now have a plausible story that fits the known facts. I am sharing this with everyone now as I suspect that some one of you may have a clue that helps complete the story. The existing mythology is that Sarah Davidson was the daughter of John Davidson and Nancy Brevard who were killed by Indians in 1764 or 1776 or 1779 or 1782. The first problem that people have with this part of the story is that they do not know which John Davidson it was. It was not "Old John" Davidson who was born in Ireland about 1709. He died in North Carolina in 1749 and his history is somewhat well documented. It was not his son John "One-Eye" Davidson, born in Beverly Manor in Augusta Co., VA and baptised on 24 Nov 1744 in Tinkling Spring. He died in 1825 in Maury County, TN and his family is fairly well documented. The John Davidson that was killed, probably in 1782, was known as Judge John D. Davidson. He was the first son of Col. George Davidson (b. 1728, Ireland), son of "Old John" Davidson, brother of "One Eye" John Davidson. John was born about 1750 in Rowan Co. (known as Anson Co. at the time). Nancy Brevard was the daughter of John Brevard and Jane McWhorter of Rowan County, and she was born about 1757. They were married in Rowan County, NC in 1779. Lambert Clayton was born in Delaware in 1755. His wife, Sarah Davidson, is known to have been born in 1759 and died in 1843. The were married in 1782 in Rowan County. These facts are well documented. >From this, it is obvious that Sarah Davidson could NOT be the daughter of John Davidson and Nancy Brevard. This led me to research all of the known Davidson families in the area to see where a Sarah could fit. (E.g., Family of Joseph, Family of Alexander, Family of Samuel of Augusta Co., VA - including sons James and Benjamin, John Davidson of Mecklenburg Co., NC, George Davidson - Old John's Brother). I needed to find a Sarah, born about 1759, and most families already had a Sarah accounted for. I also looked into the possibility that Sarah might have been a young widow. But I could not within those families find a man who had married a Sarah, who could have been born in 1759, who had died before 1782. But this is trickier as we are now looking 20 years later when more families entered the area and more possibilities exist. But, my conclusion was that the most-likely family that had a possible fit was the family of George Davidson's brother Thomas Davidson (b. abt. 1730, Ireland) whose family history has not been documented anywhere that I have found. Little has been recorded about this Thomas Davidson. What was known is that he went to Charleston and died there and left a family. It had also been alluded to that he was the Thomas Davidson who served in the Revolution and was at Cowan's Ford with Gen. Davidson. Based on this, I began inquiries with the South Carolina Dept. of Archives and History concerning wills, deeds, and any other documents extant mentioning Thomas Davidson. I found two distinct individuals. 1. I found a Thomas Davidson of Culleton Co. who was married to a Rosanna, who served in the War and drew a pension, and died in November 1807. I have not yet found a will for this individual or any estate papers. The papers that I do have talk about a man with young children. Based on the census reports, I am going to suggest that this Thomas Davidson was born in the 1760s. This is not my candidate. However, based on the documents that I now have, I think that this individual is somehow tied into the family. 2. I found a Thomas Davidson who left a will in 1764 in Charleston County. He addressed it to two of his brothers George and William to act as his executors. His wife's name was Sarah and he mentions a daughter Sarah. His land was based on a grant from Matthew Rowan on Fishing Creek given in 1754 that because of a boundary change between North and South Carolina became part of South Carolina. I have the following documents: a WPA transcript of this will; a copy of the original clerk's copy that the WPA transcript was made from; a copy of a Mar 1775 document - part of a series of actions that were being made at the time to sort out land that was changing province as a result of the new boundary between NC and SC-: from George Davidson that identifies the source of the land patent from Matthew Rowan to Thomas Davidson, deceased. It also identifies George Davidson as the current owner. a copy of an Indenture made 3 June 1778 between Sarah Davidson of Rowan County and Thomas and Samuel Carson of Camden District, Craven Co., SC regarding the sale of the land. I believe that this Thomas Davidson is the son of Old John Davidson, and that he and his wife Sarah are very likely to be the parents of the Sarah Davidson who married Lambert Clayton. Further, I believe, although more work needs to be done in North Carolina records, that Sarah Davidson and her daughter went back to Rowan County to live with the family of Col. George Davidson, her brother-in-law, (or maybe she went to live with her own family in Rowan Co. that is still unidentified.) What is left to be proved? First, we need to find some way to prove that this daughter Sarah was the Sarah who married Lambert Clayton. This may prove difficult unless we can find some record of her mother's death and a will to go along with it. However, we have an interesting link, just in the names of the children. One of the sons of Lambert and Sarah was named Thomas Davidson Clayton. Further, there were grand children named Thomas Davidson Clayton, Thomas Davidson Orr and Thomas Davidson Brittain. In fact, I have found no instance in the first, second, and third generation of the name Davidson being associated with any male name other than Thomas. I contend as a working scenario it fits much better than anything else. Of course, if any one has evidentiary documents that show anything else, please feel free to share them with me. Second, I would like to address who was the second Thomas Davidson. Now this is going to be a stretch, but some of the associations in the documentation suggests that he might be a son of the first Thomas Davidson who was born after his father wrote the will. Third, who were Sarah, Thomas Davidson's parents. There is one story that the name Scott is somehow involved with the family. There was definitely a Scott family in the area where they lived in SC as I have a document signed by a Scott. Sarah, who would have been born about 1740, could also be from a number of the early families in Rowan County. I suspect that because of the story dealing with the Brevard family, that she might turn out to be a Brevard. And that she might have lived with them after Tom's death and not with the Davidsons. It is even possible that Tom's died so young (abt 34) because he was wounded in an Indian raid. The whole story is not opened to us yet, but, I believe, that you will agree that it is getting more plausible. Your comments please. john. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= John B. Lisle <jbl@tqsi.com> P.O. Box 602, Lexington, MA 02420 Phone: 781-270-1006 Fax: 781-270-1174

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Seeking information on the Royal North Carolina Regiment or the Royal 71st Regiment which were British units during the Revolutionary War. Have muster rolls from these regiments survived? If so where can they be found? Where did these units serve during the Revolutionary War. Is there a history of the Revolutionary War in North Carolina which mentions these units? Thanks for any help offered. Doug Purcell 633 North Randolph Avenue Eufaula, AL 36027-1209 dpurcell@the-link.net

Hi- Is any one related to the DICKSON ~ McEWEN families that were in NC pre Rev. War? Joseph DICKSON and James McEWEN and families came from PA to NC. Interested in trading info w/ anyone related- or possibliy related- trying to determine the parents of Jospeh DICKSON for sure. I know some theories but need proof. Linda N klnor@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Does any one have information on WILLIAM AND MARGARET BROWN in the 1700's. Thank you for your time. Tina Brown bcastle@ptialaska.net

Looking for information about my ancestors that lived in NC...Duncan(b1792NC and spouse Katherine ________ McCollum(b1794NC) had the following children all born in NC..Archibald(1824--my line); Calvin J.(b1825); James (b1828); Katherine(b1830); and Duncan Jr(b 1831)..Archibald married Mary B (Polly) Linticum(b 1815 Virginia) around 1841 in Virginia with the eldest daughter Emiline McCollum (b Jan 1842),,Emiline is my gggrandmother.The family all above moved to Polk County, Iowa in the 1845/6 time.. Duncan was a wagonmaker by trade and Archibald was a farmer...Any information about this family would be most appreciated.. I would like to find who were Duncan and Katherine parents and where they lived and etc..Thanks very much Dennis Renken 1900 24th Avenue South Escanaba, Mi 49829 e-mail drenken@up.net

Hi James Stewart b.1700 (location?). d.1761 Cumberland co.NC. Could have been born in Craven co. or Chowan co.NC. Living in New Bern,Craven co.NC. around 1720. Migrated to Cumberland co.NC. May have been a land owner and constable in Craven co.NC.in 1745-1750 Listed in court records thru 1755. Cumberland co.court records show land grants to his son John in 1755 and land deeded from John to his father in 1759. James's son John is shown as adminstrator to his estate in Cumberland co.NC.1761. Sales from the estate in late 1761 L49:11:1 and 1762 L69:18:4 I have other info on his decendants. My question is Could his parents have sailed into NC.prior to 1700 or migrated into the Craven co.(Chowan co.?)NC.area.What would have been the logical route prior to 1700? Could he and family have sailed/migrated into the area after 1700? Thanks for any help Gay Stewart Beam

My ancestor Abraham MACKLEMORE, brother of James MACKLEMORE, was in VA first and then in NC, in America from Scotland by the 1690's. Many of these McLEMORES descended from Abraham migrated to TN in the early 1800's. I would appeciate any information on the McLemores in Scotland and America. Millie

Here is the DAR link on the web. Maybe you can find your answer there. Christy. ---------- From: Daniel & Mary Sackett <transitdan@bigsky.net> To: SACKETT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SACKETT-L] DAR Library Catalog is on-line Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 1:50 PM DAR Library Catalog is on-line On January 26, 1999 The Library Corporation of Inwood, West Virginia completed its work to post the DAR Library Catalog on the Internet. DAR owns the database of the records and contracts with TLC to run this catalog for us. It contains information on: Ancestors and descendants of Jonathan Nichols Amsden and Amelia Family of John Sackett / comp. by John Sackett Chapter [Mich.] Harry McKay's family and ancestors, pre-1630 to 1997 / compiled A history and geneology[sic] of the Fyler family / [Wadsworth G Michigan DAR Genealogical Records Committee report ; s1 v324 : Ohio DAR Genealogical Records Committee report ; series : Reub The Sacketts of America : their ancestors and descendants, 1630 The address to access the catalog on-line is: http://dar.library.net Please let those with whom you have contact know about this important development." _ /_/\/\ See Our Sackett Family at this Web Page \_\ / http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/8782/ /_/ \ Remember two wrongs don't make a right, \_\/\ \ but two rights do make a U-Turn. \_\/ ==== SACKETT Mailing List ==== To join the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative, learn more at: http://www.rootsweb.com/

One of my ancestors, John TORREY (TORRIE, TORIE, TORRY, TORY) served as a soldier in the Continental Army from North Carolina during the Revolutionary War. One of his descendants has joined the Daughters of the American Revolution and subsequently was assigned the national number of 298,250. This information is from the "Lumber River Scots and Their Descendants" which was originally published in 1942. I recently checked an on-line listing of DAR member's Revolutionary War ancestors and could not make a connection with the above national number. Does someone have an index that they could check to verify this national number and give me whatever information is available on John Torrey? Thanks for any help offered. Doug Purcell 633 North Randolph Avenue Eufaula, AL 36027-1209 dpurcell@the-link.net

Have tried other sites without much success. Looking for JOHN VANCE, son of David Vance, both born in Mecklenburg Co. AL. John was born 1769 and according to the McClung library in Knoxville, was married in Todd Co. KY. wife's name unknown, and they had a daughter Jane (Jennie) Vance. Both John and his wife died in Christian Co. KY. I know there were several David Vance's in Mecklenburg county, but I am mainly concerned with the one whose son John moved to Kentucky. Thanks in advance to any historians out there.Jim Chandler

Try these sites for info on your Southerlands. http://www.rootsweb.com (also USGenProj Search at rootsweb) , http://www.familytree.com , http://www.ancestry.com . You would be suprised what you find out just by using search engines also. Good Luck. Christy.

In the library at Lillington, NC there is a copy of the McCranie Book, correct title is: "MCCRAINE", in the back room to left as you walk into the door. On a similar note, does anyone have a copy of this book for sale ?? I dearly would love to buy a copy. Thanks. Ron McRaney ron_mcraney@mcg.mot.com -----Original Message----- From: VICCLARK@aol.com [mailto:VICCLARK@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 9:30 PM To: NCSCOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: NC Land Patents Your best source for info on NC Land Patents are in books by Margaret Hofman (1) Province of N.C. 1663 - 1729 Abstracts of Land Patents (2) Colony of N.C. 1735 - 1764 Abstracts of Land Patents (3) Colony of N.C. 1765 to 1775 Abstracts of Land Patents Then we have: North Carolina Land Grants in South Carolina by Brent Holcomb In a book entitled MCCRAINIE by Anthony McCrainie there is a list of ENTRIES OF CUMBERLAND COUNTY LANDS RECORDED IN ATKINS BOOK These are mostly lands transferred during the American Revolution. Best regards, Col Vic Clark Editor of the Argyll Colony Plus, Journal of the North Carolina Scottish Heritage Society If your ancestors from Scotland came to North Carolina You should belong to our Society We have 4 speakers from Scotland coming to our Scottish Heritage Symposium at The Scottish Heritage Center, St. Andrews Presbyterian College, Laurinburg, NC 18.19 & 20 March 99. To join our Society, send our Treasurer your check for $30 and receive three issues of the AC+ each year plus our gathering etc. Treasurer's address Mrs. Anne Landin FSA Scot 1690 Plainfield Cchurch Road Siler City, NC 27344 Email alandinn@sph.unc.edu By the way I am not a professional genealogist. I can recommend several in North Carolina if anyone is interested Best regards and happy hunting, Col Vic CLARK ==== NCSCOTS Mailing List ==== Reminder: the Smartlist software will remove you from the mailing list if your mailbox becomes full and messages bounce. Unsubscribe before leaving on vacation.