Is she the mother or sister of Elizabeth Ann Oates nee Shipp. Le ----- Original Message ----- From: "LynnJack" <lynnjack904@earthlink.net> To: <NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:32 PM Subject: [spam] Re: [NCSAMPSO] Brown, King, Cobb Do you know anything about Ann Shipps family? Where did they live before Sampson Co? On Aug 25, 2004, at 7:13 PM, Le Bateman wrote: > My maternal greatgrandfather was Stephen OATES, who married > Elizabeth > Ann Shipp in 1807. He had the following siblings Senah who married > Michael > KING. Frances OATES who married John BROWN, Ann OATES who married > Labon, > Michael OATES, who married Mary I do not know her surname. Michel > OATES, who > married Jethro KING, she may have also married a BROWN, after Jethro's > death > in 1823. Miriab OATES, who married John BROWN'S brother Alfred, the > youngest > was the brother James Wyatt OATES d.b. 1797 d.d. 1877. His wife was > named > Mary COBB daughter of Keran COBB. Anyone doing research on these > families I > would like to fill in the gaps please. > There was a sibling named Susannah OATES born in 1795. She was > declared a lunatic by the Sampson County Court. Her will was probated > in > 1862. Her father James was her first guardian, then, her mother Mary, > and > when Mary died in 1821, her brother Michael became her legal guardian. > > > ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== > This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! > Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/clusters/adoptcounty.html > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/clusters/adoptcounty.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Do you know anything about Ann Shipps family? Where did they live before Sampson Co? On Aug 25, 2004, at 7:13 PM, Le Bateman wrote: > My maternal greatgrandfather was Stephen OATES, who married > Elizabeth > Ann Shipp in 1807. He had the following siblings Senah who married > Michael > KING. Frances OATES who married John BROWN, Ann OATES who married > Labon, > Michael OATES, who married Mary I do not know her surname. Michel > OATES, who > married Jethro KING, she may have also married a BROWN, after Jethro's > death > in 1823. Miriab OATES, who married John BROWN'S brother Alfred, the > youngest > was the brother James Wyatt OATES d.b. 1797 d.d. 1877. His wife was > named > Mary COBB daughter of Keran COBB. Anyone doing research on these > families I > would like to fill in the gaps please. > There was a sibling named Susannah OATES born in 1795. She was > declared a lunatic by the Sampson County Court. Her will was probated > in > 1862. Her father James was her first guardian, then, her mother Mary, > and > when Mary died in 1821, her brother Michael became her legal guardian. > > > ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== > This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! > Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/clusters/adoptcounty.html > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

You might check the Walters website for that family. The Walters settled in Robeson, migrating from old Dobbs so probably came right thru Sampson ca 1795. Check out @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/William_Celia/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <BShank4353@aol.com> To: <NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:25 PM Subject: [NCSAMPSO] Waters Surname > I am researching the Waters (Warters) family of Sampson co. NC. Anyone have > any info on this line. Thank you. > > > ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== > This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! > Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/clusters/adoptcounty.html > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Sorry, he was my maternal fourthgreatgrandfather. My maternal great-grandfather's great-grandfather. Le ----- Original Message ----- From: "Le Bateman" <LeBateman@Att.net> To: <NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 4:13 PM Subject: [NCSAMPSO] Brown, King, Cobb My maternal greatgrandfather was Stephen OATES, who married Elizabeth Ann Shipp in 1807. He had the following siblings Senah who married Michael KING. Frances OATES who married John BROWN, Ann OATES who married Labon, Michael OATES, who married Mary I do not know her surname. Michel OATES, who married Jethro KING, she may have also married a BROWN, after Jethro's death in 1823. Miriab OATES, who married John BROWN'S brother Alfred, the youngest was the brother James Wyatt OATES d.b. 1797 d.d. 1877. His wife was named Mary COBB daughter of Keran COBB. Anyone doing research on these families I would like to fill in the gaps please. There was a sibling named Susannah OATES born in 1795. She was declared a lunatic by the Sampson County Court. Her will was probated in 1862. Her father James was her first guardian, then, her mother Mary, and when Mary died in 1821, her brother Michael became her legal guardian. ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/clusters/adoptcounty.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

My maternal greatgrandfather was Stephen OATES, who married Elizabeth Ann Shipp in 1807. He had the following siblings Senah who married Michael KING. Frances OATES who married John BROWN, Ann OATES who married Labon, Michael OATES, who married Mary I do not know her surname. Michel OATES, who married Jethro KING, she may have also married a BROWN, after Jethro's death in 1823. Miriab OATES, who married John BROWN'S brother Alfred, the youngest was the brother James Wyatt OATES d.b. 1797 d.d. 1877. His wife was named Mary COBB daughter of Keran COBB. Anyone doing research on these families I would like to fill in the gaps please. There was a sibling named Susannah OATES born in 1795. She was declared a lunatic by the Sampson County Court. Her will was probated in 1862. Her father James was her first guardian, then, her mother Mary, and when Mary died in 1821, her brother Michael became her legal guardian.

Ron, I am just going to send you Vann records from my data base which might be of interest to you. I apoligize for the size of the print. I am working on a new mail program and don't know how to change it. If you can't read it holler and I'll change the size within my document. Dinkins is an unusual surname and Shade Wilson's brother married a Dinkins in west TN whose mother probably a widow had recently married a John Ward. This John Ward is thought to be their Uncle, brother of Shade's mother Elizabeth Ward-Wilson. Dinkins: 1810 will of JOHN JOSEPH DINKINS names wife Seley/Selah and seemingly young children Anne Lewesar Denkins; Lotty Licinda Dinkins; Lanay Dinkins and Sally Seraney Dinkins. Exr: wife, Swley, Edwd G Gavin, Elijah Gregory. Wit: Lott Gregory, Surrene Gregory. [Sealy (Celia) (Gregory) Dinkins was the dau of Lott & Nancy Gregory and Celia m. 2nd by 1811 a VANN in Sampson Co. See below, Lott Gregory wrote a will in 1811 naming wife Nancy, sons: Elijah, Elisha, Asa; daus: Lana Simpler, Serena Gregory, SEALY DINKINS granddau Molsey Fryer.SELAH DINKINS. Son Owen Gregory children Milsey and Loiza. - no probate.] Followed by a 2nd will written in 1823 & probated 1824: wife Nancy Gregory; Sons: Elijah, Elisha, son Asa, Dau CELIA VANN, dau Lena Simpler, dau Senena Fortner, granddau Molsey Fryer Wit: William Robinson, Benjamin Warters Exr: son Asa Gregory, William Robinson. 1857 Sampson: When Asa Gregory wrote his will he named a son Owne (sic)Gregore in GA; dau Nancy Rackley wife of Joshua; daughter Louisa Dollar wife of Wm G. who had left NC. Dau Polly Ann Petrson wife of Peyton money due her on acc of her Grandfather JOHN VANN; dau Sally Shepherd wife of Lewis Smith and mentions grandfather JOHN VANN Exr: Friend John R BEAMAN Wit: G.W. Atkins, James A Bizzell. [Acc to 1850 census, Asa Gregory was b. ca 1781. Lewis Smith b. ca 1820; Sarah S. (Gregory) Smith b. ca 1825 The Beamans were involved with Thomas Wilson in several patent acquistions in Northampton] 1809 Sampson: JOHN VANN mentioned in group of Jurymen which included WILLIAM WILSON Josiah Blackman, Osborn Holley and JOHN BEAMAN. [Have always thought this could possibly be Shade's real first name. This William is mentioned earlier, Feb 1800 when he and Stephen King and Dobbs Young were named to a Jury. Edwd Vann is on lots and lots of Wilson records.William could also be a missing brother who was not living with the family by the time the first census caught up with them. If he was in the Rev War, he might have taken off for the south or middle TN about this point.] [Of these, some of the Wilsons, Blackmans and maybe Holly's ended up in Sampson Co] Mar 18, 1793 Edgecombe: EDWARD VANN of Edge. to JOHN IRWING JACKSON of same. 225 silver dollars. 99 acs which was a grant to WILLIAM DELOACH Oct 28, 1787, on the ES of EDWIN DANCY'S Mill Branch adj. JAMES PERMENTER's former corner, JOHN WILSON, Widow SHERWOOD; also 100 acs which was part of a grant to JAMES PERMENTER Dec 10, 1778 on NWst Side of KILLEBREWs Mill Swamp, adj. JAMES PERMENTER, WILLSON. Wit: JOHN W MAYO, WILLIAM DANCY. Proved May Ct 1795. DBK 8, p.313. Feb 18, 1736 Bertie: JOHN ALSTON of Chowan Precinct to Thomas Piland. 40 pds 124 ac on SE Side of Ahoskey Swamp by patent dated Apr 1, 1723 to GEORGE POWELL. Conveyed by deed to ALSTON Aug 11, 1726. Wit: HENRY BAKER, JOSEPH VANN, MARY NORRIS May Ct 1737. DBK E, p.121. Colonial Bertie Co NC Deed BKs A-H, 1720-1757 Mary Best Bell. [thomas pyland] Jan 19, 1791 Edgecombe: JAMES PERMENTER of Edgecombe to EDWARD VANN of same. 45 silver dollars. 100 acs which was a part of a patent to sd Permenter Dec 10, 1778, on the Nowst side of Killebrew's Mill Swamp, adj. sd JAMES PERMENTER, FOREHAND(now WILLSON'S line). Wit: L RUFFIN, SAMUEL PERMENTER. Aug Ct 1791. Edwd Hall CC. DBK 6, p.118. [Edgecombe Deeds Vol 4, Stephen Bradley] [This refers to John Wilson, {son of Isaac, Uncle of Louis D Wilson}. The reference is the 152 acs sold by Richard Sarsnett to Isaac Wilson and willed to son John Wilson in 1779. The land had been sold by James Forehand to Richard Sarsnett who held it for some 20 years, and James Forehand had purchased it from William Deloach, planter of Edgecombe in Aug 20, 1763 adj. John Gosney, Wm Sherrod, Hardy Williams. Wit: Wm Haywood, Thomas Bryant. Mar 13, 1791 Edgecombe: WILLIAM DELOACH of Edgecombe to EDWARD VANN of same. 45 silver dollars. 91 acs which was a patent to sd William Deloach Oct 29, 1782, on ES of sd William DeLoach's Mill branch formerly called DEARMANS Branch, Adj. JAMES PERMENTER, JNO WILSON, Widow SHERROD. Wit: EDWIN DANCY , J. KILLEBREW. Aug Ct 1791. DBK 6, p.158 [Edgecombe Deeds Vol 4, Stephen Bradley] [This is John Wilson, son of Isaac, Uncle of Louis D Wilson] Mar 18, 1793 Edgecombe: EDWARD VANN of Edge. to JOHN IRWING JACKSON of same. 225 silver dollars. 99 acs which was a grant to WILLIAM DELOACH Oct 28, 1787, on the ES of EDWIN DANCY'S Mill Branch adj. JAMES PERMENTER's former corner, JOHN WILSON, Widow SHERWOOD; also 100 acs which was part of a grant to JAMES PERMENTER Dec 10, 1778 on NWst Side of KILLEBREWs Mill Swamp, adj. JAMES PERMENTER, WILLSON. Wit: JOHN W MAYO, WILLIAM DANCY. Proved May Ct 1795. DBK 8, p.313. Below are all Sampson Co records: Nov 7, 1820 James Manard of Wake Co., to Isham Wilson Wit: Kidar Vann, James Wilson Negro man named Abram born Dec 1798 $700.00 Registered Feb 20, 1826 Deed Book 21, pg. __ Dec. 3, 1826 John D. King of Alabama to Isom Wilson Wit: James Wilson, Edward Vann 125 acres, (no money mentioned changing hands). ADJ: Beaverdam Creek and east of said Isom Wilsons line, being a part of the land known by the name of the Bush survey. Reg. Feb 8, 1828 Feb 17, 1829 Ct Min.: Ordered letters of administration be granted to Edmond Vann on the estate of Shadrack Wilson, dec'd. Bond $2,500. Securities: Ollen Mobley, Hinton Craddock, and Nathan Williams. Ordered the administrator have leave to sell three negroes: Esther, Peter and Alfred, the property of the said dec'd on a credit of 6 months in order to make an equal division among the heirs. Mar 10, 1829 In the Estate of Shadrack Wilson By order of the court, to: Isham Wilson 1 Negro woman; Susannah Wilson 1 Negro boy; Joseph Maynor 1 Negro boy; James Wilson 1 lot of corn, Isham Wilson 1 pile shucks. Edward Vann, adm. NC Archives CR.087.508.74 May 18, 1829 Ct. Min.: An inventory and account of the sale of the estate of Shadrack Wilson, dec'd was returned by Edward Vann, administrator. The amount of property sold was $1112.02 1/2 May 19, 1829 Ct. Min.: Isham Wilson security for Edward Vann as constable for Piney Grove District. Nov 17, 1829 Ct. Min.: Ordered James Bennett, esquire, Allen King, Thomas Craddock, esquire, I.W. Lane and John L. Clifton settled the accounts of Edward Vann, administrator of the estate of Shadrack Wilson, dec'd. Feb 17, 1830 Ct. Min.: Report of the committee that settled the accounts of Edward Vann, administrator of the estate of Shadrack Wilson, dec'd. was returned and there appears to be $954.28 in the hands of the administrator after having paid all the just debts. Jul 25, 1836 Bryan Dawtry & wife Nancy to John King, Edward Vann, James Wilson, Lewis Wiggins & Barnabas Sutton and their successor trustees 1 1/2 acres gifted? in trust for the use and purpose (building a Methodist Episcopal Church) ADJ: Bryan Dawtry, John King Feb 13, 1840 Deed James Wilson of Sampson Co, NC. to Isom Wilson of the county and state aforesaid 55 acres $100 ADJ: on the East side of great Cohary on the Marsh branch beginning at a stake on the main run of the Marsh branch, James Bennets corner, east side of the long pond, being a part of a tract of land Alexander Watkins bought of John King . Wit: E. Vann, Riley Wilson Sampson Co Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions May Term 1841. Deed proven by Riley Wilson. Sampson Co Deed Book 26, p.257. Feb 13, 1840 Deed James Wilson of Sampson Co to Isom Wilson of county and state aforesaid 250 acres $600 ADJ on the Marsh branch beginning at the run of the Marsh Branch on Joshua ____ line to a ____pond, to big Cypress pond to a line in the head of a lond pond on Marsh branch. Wit: E. Vann Riley Wilson Sampson Co Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions May Term 1841. Reg. Jul 27, 1841. Sampson Co Deed Book 26, p. 270 Dec 28, 1888 Willy Wilson Land division. Susan Vann asked for her 1/8 part. No other names mentiond. Special Proceedings files CR.087.921.3 File 306 Sampson Co. Dec. , 1881 Wiley Wilson, decedent to Susan Vann (Elisha Wilson family?) Book 16, 110 On Aug 25, 2004, at 12:24 PM, Ron Lindsay wrote: > Greetings Lynn, > > Over the past three years, the Lindsay Surname DNA Project has turned > up > indisputable biological branches of my Lindsays in Nash County, North > Carolina (not a surprise), Carroll County, Virginia, Maryland and > Mississippi. We are still trying to establish the most recent common > ancestor (MRCA) for these various Lindsay/Lindsey lineages. > > At this point, I have no knowledge of any of my Lindsays ever living in > Tennessee, however it remains to be seen if any of my Lindsays ever > lived > there. > > I would appreciate any additional information that you might have on > the > Lindsays or Vanns in your database. I graduated from high school in > Mount > Olive (Wayne County), NC with two Wilsons. Cheers. > > Ron Lindsay > San Jose, CA > > =============================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: LynnJack [mailto:lynnjack904@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:34 PM > To: NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCSAMPSO] Vann Family Surname > > I did a little looking at the Lindsays with out finding out too much. > Wilsons, Lindsays and Vanns seem to have been in the same area up near > the Wayne Co border. I don't have the info for Sampson Co on this > computer, > but will later look to see what I have that might help you. > > I have always wondered if the same Lindsays were the name source of > Lindsay > Kavender Tinkle whose daughter married Shadrach "Shade" Wilson in > Gibson Co > TN after the civil war. Shade Wilson was the last generation of our > branch > to be born in Sampson Co., son of James and > Elizabeth Ward Wilson who took their family to Gibson TN in ca 1838. > > Did your Lindsays spent time in middle TN? > > ======================================== > On Aug 24, 2004, at 5:42 PM, Ron Lindsay wrote: > >> Greetings Marilyn, >> >> My Lindsays came from Sampson and Wayne Counties of North Carolina. >> >> I am trying to expand my knowledge of the Vann paternal ancestry for >> my >> great great grandmother, Elizabeth (Dizy) Vann (b. 1811, d. ? ), who >> was >> married to Thomas Lindsay ( b. ca 1810, d. 1839 Sampson Co, NC ). >> They >> were the parents of three children, Caroline, John Devane and Mary. >> Upon >> the early death of Thomas Lindsay in 1839, Elizabeth married Caswell >> J. >> Bryant (b. 1826). >> >> My paternal lineage is ... >> 1.. Thomas Lindsay >> 2.. John Devane Lindsay >> 3.. Algia Arcastus Lindsay >> 4.. Addest Lutrell Lindsay >> 5.. Ron Lindsay >> Could you help me with the Vann or Lindsay surnames? >> >> Ron Lindsay >> San Jose, CA >> >> =============================================== >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LynnJack [mailto:lynnjack904@earthlink.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:51 PM >> To: NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NCSAMPSO] Vann Family Surname >> >> >> Ron, I have an interest, because I suspect an earlier connection >> before >> Sampson Co between the Vanns and the Wilsons. >> >> The Vanns appear on quite a few records with our Wilsons in Sampson. >> >> I also notice your name is Lindsay. Were your Lindays from around >> Sampson >> Co? >> >> Marilyn >> >> >> On Aug 24, 2004, at 2:06 PM, Ron Lindsay wrote: >> >>> Greetings Sampson List, >>> >>> Are there any members on this list who are researching the Vann >>> family >>> of >>> Sampson County, NC? >>> >>> Ron Lindsay >>> San Jose, CA >>> >> >> >> ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== >> This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! >> Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: >> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/clusters/adoptcounty.html >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== > This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! > Interested in becoming the list manager? 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1850 Sampson Co, Southern District census Household# 211 Jesse Waters age 26 Laborer Lucinda 23 Eliza 3 Household# 50 Nancy Waters 62 ? can't make out the name looks like _ _ ngah 21 male Mathew 17 Nancy 21 Mary 32 Julias 3 male

Noticed your posting on Lindsey. Not related but have the 1850 NC census. There is a Lewis Lindsey in Wayne Co. on the 1850 census Household# 169 Lewis Lindsey age 28 Farmer Martha age 20 Charles age 2 Charity age 67 (must be his grandmother) Sucky age 48 (must be his mother) Working of the farm living in their house hold is John Pennington age 17 and Jessie Pennington age 15, it looks like their occupation is Hueling or Huebing can't make it out. Lew is Lindsey was the only Lindsey listed for Wayne Co. 1850. Many other Lindsey's in NC 1850 Sampson Co census Household# 725 Caswell G. Bryant 24 Dizey Bryant 39 Susan Bryant 1/12 months old Caroline Lindsey 16 John Lindsey 14 Mary Lindsey 11 Living in household#723 Edward Vann 63 Farmer Nancy 48 Marshall 24 Farmer Christopher 16 Farmer Household # 751 Nash Co., NC Bennett Lindsey 26 Farmer Elizabeth 25 William B. 7 Temp[er?] 5 female Elijah R. 3 Abaliza 1 female Mourning 12 female Household# 723 John E. Lindsey 54 Farmer Household# Prity Lindsey age 10 living in household with Mourning Bone and Nacy W. Bone I see you were from Mt. Olive, NC. My mother and her family also ae from there. We are the Barfield/Hood/Parker/Bizzell line. Also, Davis/Carr in Lenoir. Have a great day June

I am researching the Waters (Warters) family of Sampson co. NC. Anyone have any info on this line. Thank you.

Greetings Lynn, Over the past three years, the Lindsay Surname DNA Project has turned up indisputable biological branches of my Lindsays in Nash County, North Carolina (not a surprise), Carroll County, Virginia, Maryland and Mississippi. We are still trying to establish the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) for these various Lindsay/Lindsey lineages. At this point, I have no knowledge of any of my Lindsays ever living in Tennessee, however it remains to be seen if any of my Lindsays ever lived there. I would appreciate any additional information that you might have on the Lindsays or Vanns in your database. I graduated from high school in Mount Olive (Wayne County), NC with two Wilsons. Cheers. Ron Lindsay San Jose, CA =============================== -----Original Message----- From: LynnJack [mailto:lynnjack904@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:34 PM To: NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCSAMPSO] Vann Family Surname I did a little looking at the Lindsays with out finding out too much. Wilsons, Lindsays and Vanns seem to have been in the same area up near the Wayne Co border. I don't have the info for Sampson Co on this computer, but will later look to see what I have that might help you. I have always wondered if the same Lindsays were the name source of Lindsay Kavender Tinkle whose daughter married Shadrach "Shade" Wilson in Gibson Co TN after the civil war. Shade Wilson was the last generation of our branch to be born in Sampson Co., son of James and Elizabeth Ward Wilson who took their family to Gibson TN in ca 1838. Did your Lindsays spent time in middle TN? ======================================== On Aug 24, 2004, at 5:42 PM, Ron Lindsay wrote: > Greetings Marilyn, > > My Lindsays came from Sampson and Wayne Counties of North Carolina. > > I am trying to expand my knowledge of the Vann paternal ancestry for my > great great grandmother, Elizabeth (Dizy) Vann (b. 1811, d. ? ), who > was > married to Thomas Lindsay ( b. ca 1810, d. 1839 Sampson Co, NC ). > They > were the parents of three children, Caroline, John Devane and Mary. > Upon > the early death of Thomas Lindsay in 1839, Elizabeth married Caswell J. > Bryant (b. 1826). > > My paternal lineage is ... > 1.. Thomas Lindsay > 2.. John Devane Lindsay > 3.. Algia Arcastus Lindsay > 4.. Addest Lutrell Lindsay > 5.. Ron Lindsay > Could you help me with the Vann or Lindsay surnames? > > Ron Lindsay > San Jose, CA > > =============================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: LynnJack [mailto:lynnjack904@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:51 PM > To: NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCSAMPSO] Vann Family Surname > > > Ron, I have an interest, because I suspect an earlier connection > before > Sampson Co between the Vanns and the Wilsons. > > The Vanns appear on quite a few records with our Wilsons in Sampson. > > I also notice your name is Lindsay. Were your Lindays from around > Sampson > Co? > > Marilyn > > > On Aug 24, 2004, at 2:06 PM, Ron Lindsay wrote: > >> Greetings Sampson List, >> >> Are there any members on this list who are researching the Vann family >> of >> Sampson County, NC? >> >> Ron Lindsay >> San Jose, CA >> > > > ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== > This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! > Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/clusters/adoptcounty.html > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/clusters/adoptcounty.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Ron, I'm out of town at the moment but I'll check when I get home. Robert From: "Ron Lindsay" <ronlindsay65@sbcglobal.net> Reply-To: NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com To: NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NCSAMPSO] Vann Family Surname Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:47:53 -0700 Greetings Robert What can you share with me about your Vann ancestors. My great great grandmother, Elizabeth (Dizy) Vann (b. 1811, d. ? ), who was married to Thomas Lindsay ( b. ca 1810, d. 1839 Sampson Co, NC ). Upon the death of Thomas Lindsay in 1839, Elizabeth married Caswell J. Bryant (b. 1826). I cannot prove the name of Elizabeth Vann's father. Ron Lindsay San Jose, CA ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: Robert P. Lewis, Sr. [mailto:rprestonlewis@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:29 PM To: NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCSAMPSO] Vann Family Surname Ron I'm descended from the Vanns of Sampson County & I have and interest. My GGGrandmother was Catherine Vann, w/o Stephen Peterson, Jr. Robert Lewis ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/clusters/adoptcounty.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

I did a little looking at the Lindsays with out finding out too much. Wilsons, Lindsays and Vanns seem to have been in the same area up near the Wayne Co border. I don't have the info for Sampson Co on this computer, but will later look to see what I have that might help you. I have always wondered if the same Lindsays were the name source of Lindsay Kavender Tinkle whose daughter married Shadrach "Shade" Wilson in Gibson Co TN after the civil war. Shade Wilson was the last generation of our branch to be born in Sampson Co., son of James and Elizabeth Ward Wilson who took their family to Gibson TN in ca 1838. Did your Lindsays spent time in middle TN? On Aug 24, 2004, at 5:42 PM, Ron Lindsay wrote: > Greetings Marilyn, > > My Lindsays came from Sampson and Wayne Counties of North Carolina. > > I am trying to expand my knowledge of the Vann paternal ancestry for my > great great grandmother, Elizabeth (Dizy) Vann (b. 1811, d. ? ), who > was > married to Thomas Lindsay ( b. ca 1810, d. 1839 Sampson Co, NC ). > They > were the parents of three children, Caroline, John Devane and Mary. > Upon > the early death of Thomas Lindsay in 1839, Elizabeth married Caswell J. > Bryant (b. 1826). > > My paternal lineage is ... > 1.. Thomas Lindsay > 2.. John Devane Lindsay > 3.. Algia Arcastus Lindsay > 4.. Addest Lutrell Lindsay > 5.. Ron Lindsay > Could you help me with the Vann or Lindsay surnames? > > Ron Lindsay > San Jose, CA > > =============================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: LynnJack [mailto:lynnjack904@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:51 PM > To: NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCSAMPSO] Vann Family Surname > > > Ron, I have an interest, because I suspect an earlier connection > before > Sampson Co between the Vanns and the Wilsons. > > The Vanns appear on quite a few records with our Wilsons in Sampson. > > I also notice your name is Lindsay. Were your Lindays from around > Sampson > Co? > > Marilyn > > > On Aug 24, 2004, at 2:06 PM, Ron Lindsay wrote: > >> Greetings Sampson List, >> >> Are there any members on this list who are researching the Vann family >> of >> Sampson County, NC? >> >> Ron Lindsay >> San Jose, CA >> > > > ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== > This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! > Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/clusters/adoptcounty.html > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Ron I'm descended from the Vanns of Sampson County & I have and interest. My GGGrandmother was Catherine Vann, w/o Stephen Peterson, Jr. Robert Lewis _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx

Ron, I have an interest, because I suspect an earlier connection before Sampson Co between the Vanns and the Wilsons. The Vanns appear on quite a few records with our Wilsons in Sampson. I also notice your name is Lindsay. Were your Lindays from around Sampson Co? Marilyn On Aug 24, 2004, at 2:06 PM, Ron Lindsay wrote: > Greetings Sampson List, > > Are there any members on this list who are researching the Vann family > of > Sampson County, NC? > > Ron Lindsay > San Jose, CA > > > ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== > This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! > Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/clusters/adoptcounty.html > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Greetings Robert What can you share with me about your Vann ancestors. My great great grandmother, Elizabeth (Dizy) Vann (b. 1811, d. ? ), who was married to Thomas Lindsay ( b. ca 1810, d. 1839 Sampson Co, NC ). Upon the death of Thomas Lindsay in 1839, Elizabeth married Caswell J. Bryant (b. 1826). I cannot prove the name of Elizabeth Vann's father. Ron Lindsay San Jose, CA ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: Robert P. Lewis, Sr. [mailto:rprestonlewis@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:29 PM To: NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCSAMPSO] Vann Family Surname Ron I'm descended from the Vanns of Sampson County & I have and interest. My GGGrandmother was Catherine Vann, w/o Stephen Peterson, Jr. Robert Lewis

Greetings Marilyn, My Lindsays came from Sampson and Wayne Counties of North Carolina. I am trying to expand my knowledge of the Vann paternal ancestry for my great great grandmother, Elizabeth (Dizy) Vann (b. 1811, d. ? ), who was married to Thomas Lindsay ( b. ca 1810, d. 1839 Sampson Co, NC ). They were the parents of three children, Caroline, John Devane and Mary. Upon the early death of Thomas Lindsay in 1839, Elizabeth married Caswell J. Bryant (b. 1826). My paternal lineage is ... 1.. Thomas Lindsay 2.. John Devane Lindsay 3.. Algia Arcastus Lindsay 4.. Addest Lutrell Lindsay 5.. Ron Lindsay Could you help me with the Vann or Lindsay surnames? Ron Lindsay San Jose, CA =============================================== -----Original Message----- From: LynnJack [mailto:lynnjack904@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:51 PM To: NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCSAMPSO] Vann Family Surname Ron, I have an interest, because I suspect an earlier connection before Sampson Co between the Vanns and the Wilsons. The Vanns appear on quite a few records with our Wilsons in Sampson. I also notice your name is Lindsay. Were your Lindays from around Sampson Co? Marilyn On Aug 24, 2004, at 2:06 PM, Ron Lindsay wrote: > Greetings Sampson List, > > Are there any members on this list who are researching the Vann family > of > Sampson County, NC? > > Ron Lindsay > San Jose, CA >

Is anyone researching Maynor (Mainor/Mainer/Maner ~ just about any way you can say it, it was spelled ~ I have over 13+ spellings in my research). Sandra in Durham

RON, I have been all the Way to San Jose. Here is the 1820 US Census for Sampson...... JEROME TEW Underwood Josiah 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 1 0 Spell's 306 Vann Aaron 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 Mathis' 310 Vann Charity 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 3 1 Not Stated 282 Vann Edward 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 1 0 1 0 Not Stated 284 Vann Enoch 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 Robinson's 280 Vann James 3 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 Hargrove's 286 Vann James 0 0 0 0 1 0 4 0 0 1 0 Mathis' 310 Vann Jeremiah 2 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 1 0 Mathis' 312 Vann John 3 2 0 0 1 0 4 0 0 1 0 Gavin's 296 Vann John Jr. 2 3 0 0 1 0 3 1 0 1 0 Gavin's 296 Vann John Sr. 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 Mathis' 310 Vann Keder 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 Not Stated 284 Vann King 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 Westbrook's 288 Vann Needham 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 Hall's 302 Vann Thomas 1 1 0 1 0 1 5 1 1 1 0 Not Stated 282 Vann Thomas 0 0 0 1 0 3 0 1 1 0 0 Gavin's 294 Vann Volentine 1 0 0 0 1 0 4 2 2 1 0 Not Stated 274 Vann William 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 2 0 Westbrook's 288 Vann William Sr. 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 Gavin's 296 Walkins Alexander 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 Hargrove's 286 -----Original Message----- From: Ron Lindsay <ronlindsay65@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Aug 24, 2004 11:06 AM To: NCSAMPSO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCSAMPSO] Vann Family Surname Greetings Sampson List, Are there any members on this list who are researching the Vann family of Sampson County, NC? Ron Lindsay San Jose, CA ==== NCSAMPSO Mailing List ==== This NCSAMPSO list is currently available for adoption! Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/clusters/adoptcounty.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Greetings Sampson List, Are there any members on this list who are researching the Vann family of Sampson County, NC? Ron Lindsay San Jose, CA

I am looking for information on the Joshua Johnston who appeared in the 1790 census in Sampson County. There is a possibility that this is my line. What I know about my Joshua Johnson is this: Joshua Johnston lived in NC until at least 1802. Between 1802 and 1810 he moved to Horry County, SC, where he appears in the 1810 census. We know this Joshua had six sons--David (my ancestor, born in NC in 1802), Enoch, Jacob, Joshua, Nathan, and William--and three daughters--names not known. Joshua Sr. and his wife (name unknown) both died in Horry Co., SC, between 1810 and 1820. His son, Joshua Jr. appears in the 1820 census of Horry Co.but then he moved to Georgia in the early 1820's, as did most of the sons. Apparently, the sons all dropped the "t" from Johnston about that time. I am fairly confident, based on the little bit we know about the sex and ages of his children that this is the Joshua in the 1800 census of Duplin County, N.C. And, of the nine Joshua Johnston/Johnson families in the 1790 census of North Carolina, only two seemed to be likely candidates for our Joshua: the ones in Sampson and Edgecombe counties. I'm hoping someone on this list can help me learn more about the Sampson Co. Joshua. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dorothy (Johnson) Callaway Baxter, Iowa