At 07:52 PM 1/27/2004 -0500, Debbie wrote: >This list has been quite for too long. Please post your name and who you >are researching. Maybe others will be looking or have information on your >ancestors. OK, Debbie.... You asked for it <grin> I'm researching the Lovelace/Loveless and allieds, particularly Green, in Rutherford Co. According to family tradition, the Lovelaces who settled in Rutherford Co. trace back to Montgomery Co., Maryland. The 3 sons Nathan, Asa, and Benjamin are believed to have been sons of Barton and Lucy Watson Lovelace who married in 1778 in MD. Following Barton's disappearance in the 1780s (either by death, as related in the tradition, or by his flight west to avoid the law as has been suggested by recent research), Lucy Watson Lovelace is reported to have met and married Abraham Cantrell, who settled on the Pacolet River in Spartanburg Co., SC. Cantrell sold land in Rutherford Co. to Asa Lovelace in the early 1800s (and supposedly to Nathan Lovelace, too), and he was the bondsman for the marriage of Asa Lovelace to Susannah Hardin in 1806. My research has centered on several Lovelace families of the following generation (ostensibly sons of either Nathan or Benjamin, because Asa's descendants have been fairly well-researched) headed by men born in the early 1800s to the 1810s and for whom no parents have been documented. One of those men is my great-great-grandfather William Lovelace, b. c1815, who married Cyntha Hollifield in 1839. William and his children apparently lived in the area of Walls Baptist Church. I believe I have found his grave marker there, and many of his descendants are buried there. Also buried in Walls are James (b1818) and Sarah Tesseneer Lovelace and many of their descendants. <<<<THE FOLLOWING IS ALL SPECULATION>>> I believe that William and James were brothers. I also believe that they, and possibly others including Green Lovelace who married first Rebecca Moore and second Marty Nichols, were the sons of Benjamin Lovelace. According to the tradition, Benjamin is said to have stayed only briefly in Rutherford Co. before moving west into KY and possibly then up into Indiana. But I believe he actually remained in Rutherford Co. and died there sometime between 1844 (when he was listed as a founding member of Walls Church) and 1850, when a Nancy Lovelace, age 60, shows up as a head of household in the census. Based on church minutes from Sandy Run Church and Walls Church, I believe Nancy may have been a Green before marriage, and may have been the sister of Lewis Green, who is living with his wife Lucy beside Nancy and family in 1850. And to make things even more complicated, those church records deal with one Lucy Green, who was dismissed by Sandy Run Church for marrying a man (Lewis?) who was her uncle. If all assumptions are true, then Lucy Green was actually Lucy Lovelace, daughter of Nancy and Benjamin, and named after her paternal grandmother. So there you have the assertions. I am searching hard to find evidence to either confirm or refute these assertions, and that is the main focus of my research at present. Does anyone have any clues? Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]