>From: NUM1SCOT@aol.com >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:46:07 EDT >Subject: Census Avlibility Maps >To: ncbkn@earthlink.net >X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 > >Hey cousin, > >here is a great page to check out for census avalibility for >all the various states > >http://www.segenealogy.com/sgo03.htm > >talk to you later, > >Jerry

I am looking for a Rachel Davis who was born in Orange County, NC. She married a William Jolly in 1796 and had several children. If anyone can help me with this, that would be wonderful. By the way, thank you to all those who have responded to my previous post. You guys make this so much fun!!! Stephanie Walton

Hi, my name is Stephanie and I am researching my family. Surnames I am looking for are: Davis, Jolly, Henricks, White, Melton. Here is the begining of my Davis line. It is the main one I am working on. It consists of Noah Scley "Tie" Davis (1887-1944; b. Columbus, GA - d. Dallas, Texas), Noah Lee Davis (1851-1932; b. Rutherford Co., NC - d. Vivian, LA), John Davis (1810-1888; Rutherford, NC), William Davis (1785-1854; b.Brunswick Co., VA - d. Rutherford Co, NC), Simon Davis (1759-1856; b.Brunswick Co., VA - d. Cleveland Co., NC). If anyone has any help on this family I would love to talk to you. I look forward to this list and can't wait to see what everyone is looking for. Stephanie Mother to Austin William Walton <---- 13 Months

The Genealogical Society of Old Tryon County, North Carolina,announces their latest publication, Tryon County Documents 1769-1779 by Kathy Gunter Sullivan, Certified Genealogist. The heart of the volume is a compilation of previously unpublished Tryon County Court Civil Dockets. These records are currently archived in three separate locations and have been virtually inaccessible until this publication. Severe record losses suffered in Tryon's parent county, Mecklenburg, and its parent county, Anson, increases the value of any extant records in this geographic area. Some people were in the area briefly before migrating or dying during 1769-1779; therefore, there may be no other documentation for their presence here. Civil action dockets are companion records to county court minutes and reflect the progress of legal actions pursued in county court. Because not all suits were carried into the courtroom, much information on the dockets is not available through county court minutes, nor in any other record. Legal language and format can discourage genealogists attempting to use this type primary-source record, but the compiler has overcome this problem. She has provided twenty-one pages of explicit guidance on deciphering and applying docket research, reproductions of each kind of document,and a glossary. These are followed by a case-by-case examination of every action appearing in the original papers. The volume also includes an extensive discussion of extant Tryon County records, providing a ready-reference for the researcher. All of the following records available at the North Carolina Archives are transcribed: Tryon County loose civil action papers and any signatures; Tryon County miscellaneous papers and signatures; Tryon County wills and signatures with notation of extant estates papers. Minutes of the Tryon County Committee of Safety are transcribed, accompanied by facsimiles of the original record and signatures of its members. Signatures of presiding Justices of the Peace are reproduced. The only extant map depicting Tryon County is reproduced (1775). Indexed by full name, place, and topic, and cross-referenced. Smyth-sewn, case-bound, 292 pages. Price: $29.00 to Society members plus 6% North Carolina State tax and $4.00 shipping/handling. $35.00 to non-members plus 6% State tax and $4.00 shipping. Genealogical Society of Old Tryon County, P.O. Box 938, Forest City, North Carolina 28043-0938.

In a message dated 5/18/2001 5:01:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I am having trouble finding the marriage record of my 4th great grandparents > Thomas Wilkinson and Anne Nowlin in Rutherford ca. 1802. Has > anyone else came across this problem or possibly have an explanation of > what > might have happened? A mass exodus for a few months? To where? Why no > marriage bonds? Any help is greatly appreciated! > > It is my understanding that only about 25% of the NC Marriage Bonds actually exist. So if you find one, you are fortunate. Reasons vary, but back in the old days they weren't into good record keeping. Court House fires are one obvious reason. Virginia

Hello Everyone, I am having trouble finding the marriage record of my 4th great grandparents Thomas Wilkinson and Anne Nowlin in Rutherford ca. 1802. Two of Anne's siblings who I know were married (James Nowlin, Harden Nowlin) around the same time also cannot be found in the Rutherford county published marriage bonds. It appears from other documents that both the Wilkinsons and Nowlins were in Rutherford in the years the marriage would have taken place. Has anyone else came across this problem or possibly have an explanation of what might have happened? A mass exodus for a few months? To where? Why no marriage bonds? Any help is greatly appreciated! Melody

Does anyone have access to the 1810 Census for Rutherford Co. that would be willing to do a look up? Salmon, Richard Rutherford 152 NO TWP L Thank you. Deborah ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

I am seeking any information on the Patterson family that moved to Rutherford Co. from Va. Specifically,the family of Hampton William Patterson b. June 08, 1806 in Va. He was married to Elizabeth Moore. I don't have any information on Hampton's parents or siblings. Hampton & Elizabeth moved to Transylvania Co. after leaving Rutherford Co. He was a baptist minister. Thanks, Terry _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Is anyone researching this man? I'd like to chat w/you if you are. Could he be the father of MARY Y. CARSON who married JOHN KENDALL WELLS Sr. in 1832? This excerpt is from: History of Old Tryon and Rutherford Counties North Carolina, 1730-1946, by Clarence W. Griffin, County Historian, Rutherford County, Forest City, North Carolina. The Reprint Company, Publishers, Spartanburg, South Carolina, 1977. Originally published 1904. Page 135, Footnote No. 7- SHERIFF WILLIAM CARSON was born about 1773 in Pennsylvania, a son of Dan Carson. His mother was a McFarland. The family emigrated to Rutherford County about 1790, and settled near Hollis. William was one of a family of three brothers and four sisters. General John C. Carson was one of the brothers. Sheriff William married Dorcas Huey, and settled on a good farm near Duncan's Creek Presbyterian Church, in the vicinity of Hollis. To them were born four daughters. General John Carson married a daughter of Capt. James Withrow, and reared six sons and six daughters. William served as sheriff of Rutherford County from 1798 to 1809 and from 1821 to 1836, and as state senator in 1810. His nephew, James W. Carson, a son of Gen. John Carson, later succeeded him as sheriff. He was William's favorite deputy. William Carson is buried at the old Price family cemetery, near Hollis. The inscription on his monument shows that he died January 16, 1845, in his 72nd year. His wife died October 12, 1851, aged 75 years. He was an extensive landowner, and one of the county's leading citizens of his day, and a staunch member of the Presbyterian Church. ~~~~~~~ Glenna Kinard ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Researching: (1) Porter, McCants, Cobb, Martin, Rawlinson, Gill, Higgins, Scott, Harrison, Fetner; (2) Bryant, McDade, Dillard, Tolleson, Wells, Baxter, Eaves; (3) Kinard, Wise, Thaxton, Vickers, Patton, Hubbard, Wilkins, Long/Lang, Latta (Branch 28), Mauldin, Dismukes. Please direct all correspondence to: gkinard@sc.rr.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am seeking any additional information that you can provide about the parents/siblings of Pleasant Webb. Thanks a million. ================================================================ Pleasant (Plesent) WEBB was born about ca 1760-1765. His son, Elias, said that his father, Pleasant was born in Ireland (not substantiated). He died between 1830 and 1840 in Ohio, USA. Around 1800 Pleasant and family came in to the Ohio valley from Rutherford County, North Carolina. In 1803 (reported to be 45 years old) he was in Scioto County, Ohio and was said to be a notorious character. Supposedly, he tried to break up a fight between James Bradley and the wife and children of James Quire (Squires). He ended up shooting Mr. Quire (Squires). After this incident at the Licks, he was driven out of that area. He is also said to have been a Tory during the Revolutionary War. Pleasant was in GreenupCounty, Kentucky in 1820 and in Lawrence County, Ohio in 1830, he did not appear in the 1840 census, so it is believed he died between 1830-1840. Pleasant (Plesent) WEBB and Unknown (Margaret BLACKWELL?) had the following children: James WEBB (1786), Elias WEBB (1788), Thomas Hanley WEBB (1795), Aden WEBB (1797), Temperance WEBB (1799), William WEBB (1801), Margaret WEBB (1806), Sarah (Sally) WEBB (1809), and Baker WEBB (1811). Larry D. Loiselle larry.loiselle@lords.com Route 2 Box 75-G Manor, Texas 78653 (512) 272-5770 =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Larry D. Loiselle larry.loiselle@lords.com http://members.truepath.com/loiselle/

Hello Listers: I am just wondering if there were any CRAWFORD's from Rutherford County from the late 1700's and 1800's ? Your reply would be greatly appreicated. Gratefully Yours, Charles Chatsworth, CA USA

Surname: GILBERT, OWENBY ------------------------- Looking for information on Ollis Gilbert and family. Just found out his first name. All I know for sure is that they lived on Roberts Street, Asheville, NC in 1927 - this info from Asheville City Directory. From notes from my grandmother Ollis and Leah Gilbert were living there in early part of 1920's also. Leah Owenby (or other spelling variation) is my great aunt. She died in 1923. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Linda in Texas ldg@cctc.net

List, I am trying to establish confirmation on the parents of Lucinda Padgett. This Lucinda Padgett was born abt. 1835 and married James McGinnis in Cleveland Co. in April 1855. I have seen conflicting information. One pedigree shows her parents as William Padgett and Jenny Jane Salyers, another shows William Padgett with spouse Letitia Hyder. William possibly could have been married twice, but I was hoping someone out there would have more detailed information that could help focus my search. I could also use any information on the parents of James McGinnis as well. Thanks, Tony McGinnis Raleigh, NC DaMcGncsu@aol.com

Hello, Rutherford Co. researchers :-) I have some questions about some material sent to me by cousin Rhonda Tallman from Charlotte, NC (Hi, Rhonda, and Thanks!!!!). I received a few photocopied pages from the book _Sketches, Historical and Biographical of the Broad River and King's Mountain Associations from 1800-1882_ by John Logan. Rhonda told me she had gotten copies from the OTCGS. I was just wondering if anyone has a bibliographic citation for this publication. Rhonda also sent me copies of Chapters 1-5 (pp 1-29) of a printed history of High Shoal Baptist Church. Chapter 1 is entitled "Beginnings and Growth (1790-1825)". Would any of you have a bibliographic citation for this? Thanks in advance, all :-) Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg

Hello Everyone, I have begun a website in which I am posting information I find in court and other records of Rutherford County concerning my Wilkinsons, Nowlins and related families. There are several other surnames mentioned. The URL is: http://hometown.aol.com/mellybkr/myhomepage/heritage.html Melody

Greetings list, I am despartly looking for a 1840 census lookup for: Mary Green of Rutherford Co. NC. the only other information that I have is that it can be found on Page 268. I would like to know who was living in the house with her. Thank you all for any help you can give. Dena Jordan Pittsburg, Ca. San Francisco Bay Area

Looking for information and family of George D. MCDANIEL [ca. 1794-1884]. He was born in VA. and married Fanny CARPENTER [ca. 1795-ca. 1860] on Feb. 5, 1822 in Rutherford County, NC. Fanny was from Winchester, Frederick Co., VA. George and Fanny had two sons, that I know of, Joseph R. MCDANIEL [ca. 1825] and Spencer R. MCDANIEL [ca. 1831-1862]. George D. MCDANIEL married second Hannah (LNU) [ca. 1841] about 1866. George and Hannah had 5-children: Mary E. [ca. 1867], Remus M. [1870], George Asa { 1872-1908], John [ca. 1875], and Nelia [ca. 1878]. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Ben Cooper [Bella Vista, AR]

To the list please. Does anyone have any additional info on the following marriage? Such as children. ref: IGI Jack PACK Marriage(s): Spouse: Sally ALLISON Marriage: 23 Aug 1810 Rutherford, North Carolina Thanks, Hank Mabe Researching Pack/Mabe mabeone@aol.com

HI, I have 2 Green girls that married into my family. I do not have any other information on any of them except the marriages. Descendants of DEBBIE SUE GREEN Generation No. 1 1. DEBBIE SUE1 GREEN was born Abt. 1850. She married CHARLES SILVANICE SKIPPER in POLK/RUTHERFORD COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA. Child of DEBBIE GREEN and CHARLES SKIPPER is: i. NATHAN FILMORE2 SKIPPER, b. November 21, 1878, RUTHERFORD COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA. AND Descendants of JUDY ANN GREEN Generation No. 1 1. JUDY ANN1 GREEN1 was born Abt. 1830. She married T. B. SKIPPER1 July 17, 1850 in RUTHERFORD, NORTH CAROLINA2. JOY SKIPPER CORNWELL

The following was in the Dailey Courier, Sunday, April 08, 2001: This may be of interest to researchers. County has varied resources for genealogists Forest City - Over 550 out-of-area visitors from 22 states and two foreign countries visited the Genealogical Society of Old Tryon County last year, searching for family or local history. Rutherford County Historian Nancy Ellen Ferguson said that because old county borders extended all the way into present-day Tennessee, Rutherford County is ground zero for many people seeking early historical and genealogical documents. Most people come to the county searching for birth and death certificates, wills, marriage bonds and deeds, said Ferguson. Much of the material can be found at the County Courthouse, but local historical collections at the County Library, the Old Tryon Historical Collection at Isothermal Community College and the Genealogical Society also offer access to information. The Rutherford County Clerk of Superior Court office has old court minutes and wills and the Register of Deeds office has marriage bonds, deeds, birth and death certificates, said Ferguson. The county Tax Assessor's office also has some information about property ownership, but the oldest records are in Raleigh. Ferguson said the county is lucky to have copies of the old land grant records which are also now held in Raleigh. Rutherford and Burke counties were the only two counties to get such copies of the original documents granting private ownership to settlers. "The land grant was the first record made. A deed wasn't made until the land was sold, and with the original land grants, most of them have a plat of the land as it was surveyed," said Ferguson. Jim Womack, president of The Genealogical Society of Old Tryon County which maintains copies of the old land grants, said that the Society has about 700 family histories and over 2,300 history books that refer to area lore. The society also maintains about 6,000 to 7,000 bulletins from other genealogical societies. The Genealogical Society is looking for new headquarters, but is currently located on the third floor of the Old Farmer's Bank Building at 102 W. Main St., Forest City. The society is funded entirely by membership dues and donations. Member ship is $17.50 for an individual and $20 for a family. The society has library, staffed by volunteers and is open three days per week. It is normally open Wednesday through Friday form 9 a. m. until 2 p. m. and on Saturday from 1:30 to 4 p. m. The phone number is (828) 248-4010. Ronald W. Arrowood Rutherford Co., NC