I have recently placed on my website at http://www.rfci.net/wdfloyd indexes for the 1910 and 1920 Cleveland Co., NC Census and the 1910 Rutherford Co., NC Census. These were made using the Heritage Quest CD's. Bill

Do you have marriage info for them? I have this for marriages in Rutherford Co and am looking for more with WEBB and HANEY. Bride: Drucilla Haney Groom: Sherrod A Webb Bond Date: 09 Feb 1854 County: Rutherford Record #: 01 324 Bondsman: John D Webb Witness: R L Gilkey, Clerk Bond #: 000136651 Barbara D Channell: Do you have earlier HANEY or WEBB involving these HANEY/WEBBS? I believe that my gr3-4grandmother was Nancy WEBB ,married Robert HANEY in marriage of 12/28/1821 in Rutherford Co marriages. I have a few unconnected HANEY and WEBB famlies! Would love to see if there is a connection and any possible family with earlier WEBBS and HANEYs! Diana in AL, A HANEY descendent ----- Original Message ----- From: <CBARBIE2000@aol.com> To: <NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Pleasant Webb 17??-183? > Close -- I have a Drucilla Haney married to Sherrod A. Webb? Barbara Dyer > Channell > > Researching -- Dyer's, Splawn's, Childers, Gibbs, McBrayer's, Allen's, > Griffin's and a whole lot more! > > ______________________________

The Griffins I would like to find out more are James P. and Temperance (Turner) Griffin. They started in Polk County, NC and then moved to Cleveland County, NC around the same time as their daughter Ellen (Griffin) Dyer. She was married to my Granduncle Jonathan Dyer. As, for the Allen my Maternal Grandfather was Pascal Grant Allen. I can trace his father back to Hugh Allen in the 1700's. This was obtained from another researcher. My Grandfather was from Rutherford County. He is buried at the Roundhill Cemetery. His Father Joseph Allen is buried at Centennial Cemetery, Rutherford County, NC. His Grandfather William Allen is buried at Brittian Presbyterian Cemetery, Rutherford County, NC. If you are related I would love to share information. Barbara Channell Researching -- Dyer's, Splawn's, Childers, Gibbs, McBrayer's, Allen's, Griffin's and a whole lot more!

Close -- I have a Drucilla Haney married to Sherrod A. Webb? Barbara Dyer Channell Researching -- Dyer's, Splawn's, Childers, Gibbs, McBrayer's, Allen's, Griffin's and a whole lot more!

OK the vote is in. 32 in favor of full disclosure of the divorce records and 8 for just the names and dates. Those 8 gave some very good arguments for withholding the reason for the divorce but I said I would go with what ever the majority said. A word of caution before you check out the info. I did this abstract several years ago. Over half of the records have only the name and date and sometimes the date of marriage. I can't remember why. The next time I go to the Archives I will recheck these records and post any changes. ALSO - be aware that this was a civil case, not a criminal case. Most of the info came from an affidavit given by the person seeking the divorce. There was usually not a reply from the defendant. Just because the charge was made did not necessarily mean it was 100 percent true. One added benefit you will derive from these records is the date of marriage. There are 52 divorces listed. I only found 10 of these marriages recorded in the Henderson County marriage records. Some of the divorces gave the county where the marriage took place as well as the date of the marriage. Enough said. The records are posted. www.ksummers.com Please let me know if you find them useful. Kathy

Larry, I am wondering if any of your WEBB lines would have had a Nancy WEBB? I have a Nancy WEBB who married a Robert HANEY on 12/18/1821 in Rutherford Co. She would have been born at least before 1805. Descendants of Nancy Webb 1 [2] Nancy Webb b: 1806 in Prob NC or SC . +Robert Haney b: July 30, 1792 in NC/VA ........ 2 Ransom L Haney b: 1819 in NC ............ +Sarah Ramsey b: Abt. 1822 in GA ........ 2 [1] Benjamin Davis Haney b: January 25, 1821 in SC d: June 02, 1912 in Franklin Co AL ............ +Rebecca Elisabeth Wood Williams b: 1836 ........ *2nd Wife of [1] Benjamin Davis Haney: ............ +Susan Jane Skinner ........ *3rd Wife of [1] Benjamin Davis Haney: ............ +Margaret Susan Suddeth ........ 2 Mary A Haney b: 1823 in NC ............ +George W Stewart b: 1824 in AL ........ 2 Sarah Ann Haney b: 1825 in AL ............ +Benjamin B Blankinship b: 1820 in AL ........ 2 James T Haney b: 1827 ........ 2 Luisa E Haney b: 1831 in TN ............ +William W Robertson aka: Robinson b: 1817 in VA ........ 2 William Bradford Haney b: Abt. 1832 in TN d: April 04, 1903 in Millsap, Parker Co, TX ............ +Martha Jane Simpson b: October 16, 1833 in Tuscaloosa Co AL d: July 28, 1889 in Walker Co AL ........ 2 John N Haney b: 1836 d: June 10, 1865 in Civil War in NC ............ +Mary West b: Abt. 1838 in AL ........ 2 Columbus Tilmon Haney aka: Tillman C. Haney b: 1840 in AL. ............ +Mary E S Windham *2nd Husband of [2] Nancy Webb: . +John S Edmundson aka: Edmondson b: 1802 in VA Any info about this couple would be appreciated! Diana in AL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Loiselle" <larry.loiselle@softhome.net> To: <NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:17 AM Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] Pleasant Webb 17??-183? > BlankI am seeking any additional information that you can provide about the parents/siblings of Pleasant Webb. Thanks a million. > ================================================================ > Pleasant (Plesent) WEBB was born about ca 1760-1765. His son, Elias, said that his father, Pleasant was born in Ireland (not substantiated). He died between 1830 and 1840 in Ohio, USA. Around 1800 Pleasant and family came in to the Ohio valley from Rutherford County, North Carolina. In 1803 (reported to be 45 years old) he was at the Licks in Scioto County, Ohio. Pleasant was in GreenupCounty, Kentucky in 1820 and in Lawrence County, Ohio in 1830. He did not appear in the 1840 census, so it is believed he died between 1830-1840. Pleasant (Plesent) WEBB and Unknown had the following children: James WEBB (1786), Elias WEBB (1788), Thomas Hanley WEBB (1795), Aden WEBB (1797), Temperance WEBB (1799), William WEBB (1801), Margaret WEBB (1806), Sarah (Sally) WEBB (1809), and Baker WEBB (1811). > > Larry D. Loiselle > 19967 Blake Manor Rd > Manor, Texas 78653 > (512) 272-5770 > larry_loiselle@hotmail.com >

BlankI am seeking any additional information that you can provide about the parents/siblings of Pleasant Webb. Thanks a million. ================================================================ Pleasant (Plesent) WEBB was born about ca 1760-1765. His son, Elias, said that his father, Pleasant was born in Ireland (not substantiated). He died between 1830 and 1840 in Ohio, USA. Around 1800 Pleasant and family came in to the Ohio valley from Rutherford County, North Carolina. In 1803 (reported to be 45 years old) he was at the Licks in Scioto County, Ohio. Pleasant was in GreenupCounty, Kentucky in 1820 and in Lawrence County, Ohio in 1830. He did not appear in the 1840 census, so it is believed he died between 1830-1840. Pleasant (Plesent) WEBB and Unknown had the following children: James WEBB (1786), Elias WEBB (1788), Thomas Hanley WEBB (1795), Aden WEBB (1797), Temperance WEBB (1799), William WEBB (1801), Margaret WEBB (1806), Sarah (Sally) WEBB (1809), and Baker WEBB (1811). Larry D. Loiselle 19967 Blake Manor Rd Manor, Texas 78653 (512) 272-5770 larry_loiselle@hotmail.com

At 08:50 PM 3/13/03 -0600, Nancie O'Sullivan wrote: >Could someone tell me the hours the Society will be open >tomorrow, Friday ? I have never found the building open when I have >visited. Nancie, The society's webpage is at http://rfci.net/wdfloyd/gsotc.html Here are the listed hours: Old Tryon Hours Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays 9:00 AM to 2:00 PM Saturdays 1:30 PM to 4:00 PM Hope this helps.... Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg

Could someone tell me the hours the Society will be open tomorrow, Friday ? I have never found the building open when I have visited. Thank you --- Nancie O'Sullivan --- drayton5@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

In WD Floyd's list of NC land grants at http://ns1.rfci.net/wdfloyd/grants.html he lists the following: McLerkin, James 29-31 270 1817 Does someone here have access to Deed Books 29-31 who could check p 270 and find this grant for me? BTW, all the information published online by Mr. Floyd is greatly appreciated! He has done, and is doing, a service to everyone interested in the history and genealogy of this part of the country, including a number of counties in both North and South Carolina. Thank you!!! Margaret L Smith

Hi Listers, Sheila Platte was kind enough to transcribe the above named census, and allow me to place it on my website. Please take a look and let me know if you see any errors. She tried to type it the way it was written, so if it says Robins and you know it should be Robbins, we won't correct that. But if she read Gilliam and you KNOW it's Hilliard, well we'll have to look at that :) Here's the link to my website - http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tamara/genie1.html Enjoy! Tamara

1948 Obituaries Rutherfordton, Oct.14- Funeral services for MISS ELIZABETH HUGHES, 62, of Green st. who died at the Rutherford hospital were conducted this afternoon at Spencer Bapt. church at Spindale. MISS HUGHES was a member of Southern Bapt. church here. She is survived by a sister and 2 brothers. { no names} --- Rutherfordton, Oct.9- Funeral services forMRS. CLAUDE JENKINS, 61, who died Friday night at Shelby hospital, were held at Good's Creek Bapt. church this afternoon. She is survived by 4 sons and 3 daughters. { no names} --- Rutherfordton, Oct.9- Funeral services for MRS. I.P. CAMPFIELD, 75, who died at her home in Henrietta, Friday after a long illness were held at Henrietta Bapt. church; burial in High Shoals church cemetery. She is survived by 4 sons, 6 daughters, 26 grandchildren and 1 g-g-grandchild. --- {this is not much help !} Free post- nancie --- Nancie O'Sullivan --- drayton5@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Susannah Hardin b 1795-1800 d 1816 married Martin Roberts J R 1790-1820 mrried 1814 1 child Henderson Roberts 1815 who is susannah parents who raised Henderson? BBarkes barkesms@webtv.net bbarkesms@hotmail.com hardin91159@webtv.net clay co ms

I have a new web site and am including some abstracted court documents from Henderson County NC. Today I have posted bastardy bonds, coroner's inquests and an abstract of the first 85 pages of Henderson County Deed Book #1. Please feel free to email any questions. I will be posting more documents soon. New site is http://ksummers.com

cant get your website to work BBarkes barkesms@webtv.net bbarkesms@hotmail.com hardin91159@webtv.net clay co ms

Hi everyone, Our mail lists have not been very busy the last several months. I wanted to say that as list admin, I am not going to be reachable until sunday but please feel free to post your genealogy questions. I'm sure someone will pop up with an answer for you. Any list admin problems should be okay to wait until I return on Sunday. If you have a bad email address to remove, just go ahead and resubscribe under the correct address...your bad addy will automatically be removed after it bounces 3 times. Until later, Debbie Fowler micajah@numail.org

Thank you, Jeff, for this new information for me! Would anyone have information for Jonathan WEBB is this period? Any birth/death date or cemetery info. in Rutherford Co? Thank you, anyone! Diana in AL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Martin" <jmartin@fairfield.com> To: <NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 6:10 AM Subject: RE: [NCRUTHER-L] WEBBs in Rutherford Co > William Webb, Sr. (1745-1788) had at least two sons, William Jr. and Jonathan. > > William Jr. had a son named Jonathan and a daughter named Nancy. This Nancy was b. c1785 and married Pleasant Earl. > > Your Nancy might have been a d/o of this older Jonathan b. c1750-1775: > > 1790 RCC-p119-WEBB-Jonathan-1-3-4-0-0 > 1800 RCC-p149-WEBB-Jonathan-00100-10100-00 > 1810 RCC-p139-WEBB-Jonathan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fran Akridge [mailto:franakridge@mindspring.com] > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:48 PM > To: NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [NCRUTHER-L] WEBBs in Rutherford Co > > > Alfred Webb, born about 01 Feb 1800 in the Old Tryon area of NC became a > Baptist preacher of some note, both in NC and, later, in Georgia. He > was pastor to my ancestors and their cousins both in NC and in Georgia, > and at least one of his and one of his wife's siblings married into my > dad's family. I do not show Nancy as being one of his siblings, but I > have only tried to verify my part of his family. > > Hope this helps. > > Fran Goode Akridge > > -----Original Message----- > From: DIANA QUINONES [mailto:audiana@msn.com] > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 7:24 PM > To: NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] WEBBs in Rutherford Co > > I need help! In the marriage bonds for NC, there is Nancy WEBB married > Robert HANEY 12/21/1821; bondsman was Jonathan WEBB, JP was Alfred WEBB. > Robert HANEY is my ancestor, son of Robert HANEY Sr and Elisabeth BAILEY > who > came to Ruth Co abt 1785 from SC. Robt. Jr was born 7/30/1792. > > North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 > > Bride: Nancy Webb > Groom: Robert Haney > Bond Date: 28 Dec 1821 > County: Rutherford > Record #: 01 127 > Bondsman: Johnathan Webb > Witness: Alfred Webb, Justice of the Peace > Bond #: 000133925 > > Is there a minimum age for marriage in NC then?

William Webb, Sr. (1745-1788) had at least two sons, William Jr. and Jonathan. William Jr. had a son named Jonathan and a daughter named Nancy. This Nancy was b. c1785 and married Pleasant Earl. Your Nancy might have been a d/o of this older Jonathan b. c1750-1775: 1790 RCC-p119-WEBB-Jonathan-1-3-4-0-0 1800 RCC-p149-WEBB-Jonathan-00100-10100-00 1810 RCC-p139-WEBB-Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: Fran Akridge [mailto:franakridge@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:48 PM To: NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NCRUTHER-L] WEBBs in Rutherford Co Alfred Webb, born about 01 Feb 1800 in the Old Tryon area of NC became a Baptist preacher of some note, both in NC and, later, in Georgia. He was pastor to my ancestors and their cousins both in NC and in Georgia, and at least one of his and one of his wife's siblings married into my dad's family. I do not show Nancy as being one of his siblings, but I have only tried to verify my part of his family. Hope this helps. Fran Goode Akridge -----Original Message----- From: DIANA QUINONES [mailto:audiana@msn.com] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 7:24 PM To: NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] WEBBs in Rutherford Co I need help! In the marriage bonds for NC, there is Nancy WEBB married Robert HANEY 12/21/1821; bondsman was Jonathan WEBB, JP was Alfred WEBB. Robert HANEY is my ancestor, son of Robert HANEY Sr and Elisabeth BAILEY who came to Ruth Co abt 1785 from SC. Robt. Jr was born 7/30/1792. North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 Bride: Nancy Webb Groom: Robert Haney Bond Date: 28 Dec 1821 County: Rutherford Record #: 01 127 Bondsman: Johnathan Webb Witness: Alfred Webb, Justice of the Peace Bond #: 000133925 Is there a minimum age for marriage in NC then? I found Nancy WEBB HANEY remarried in AL to a John Edmoundson/Edmundson, and on the 1860 Census she was with her new husband and age was 54. This would make her born abt 1805-06. If she married Robert HANEY she would have been abt 15-16 in 1821. Since the bond shows a JP who must have officiated, would that mean there was no church marriage or that she was underage and needed parental consent? Was Alfred WEBB related to her? Does anyone know if the marriage bonds contain ages of the bride and groom? Since Robert HANEY was born 7/30/1792, this would make him almost double her age in 1821 (age 29) if she were born 1805-6. Is this not unusual? Does anyone have info on Jonathan WEBB or Alfred WEBB in Rutherford CO? Any church, cemetery info in the area for WEBB names? Thank you. I did locate a Jonathan WEBB on the 1810 Census in Rutherford CO with a female under age 10. There was also a Nancy WEBB living alone, age bet 16-25. Just wonder how they tie together. Thanks for any help! Diana in AL seeking HANEY, WEBB ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com

Betty, One other thing I forgot to mention. William Noblett (my ancestor) who is living next to David M. and Mary Jane Noblett Lavender. His wife Margaret Adaline is also listed as born South Carolina. I have not been able to discover her parentage and have wondered if she could have been a Lavender and a sister to David M. Lavender. Their first child was named David Joseph Noblett. David M. Lavender's wife Mary Jane Noblett Lavender was first cousin to this William Noblett. Charmaine

Betty, I don't know if any of this will help you are not. I don't know that much about the Lavenders but have a connecting David M. Lavender who married Mary Jane Noblett, 24 February 1847 in McDowell Co., NC. She was the daughter of Joseph and Priscilla Vaughn Noblett. Nonetheless, I have wondered if David M. Lavender was a brother to Thomas Lavender, who you are searching for info on. On the 1850 McDowell Co., NC census, page 257, household/family 38 is your Thomas Lavender family: 38/38 Thomas Lavender 39 M Farmer born NC can't read/write Sarah Lavender 22 F NC can't read/write David A. Lavender 5 M NC Eliza A. Lavender 3 F NC He lives one household away from one of my ancestors, Isaac A. Reel (#36) and his wife Elizabeth Allen Reel; next is James Green (#37) and his wife Narcissa; and (#39) Joseph Brown and his wife Mahala. From others living in that area it appears to be what is Montford Cove area. I have marriage bond date for Thomas Lavender and Sarah L. Baxter as 11 May 1845 in McDowell Co., NC, bondsman Jiles Harris. Married by John Ross, J. P. On page 283 B, household/family 411: Sarah Lavender 65 F born NC William Lavender 44 M Farmer NC can't read/write I have wondered if she is the widowed mother of Thomas and David M. Lavender. She lives next to these families: (#408) William Noblett and 2nd wife Elizabeth Goodson Noblett, (# 409) Martin (son of William) and Sarah ? Noblett; (#410) William B. Noblett (Dr.)(son of William) and his wife Adaline Ballew Noblett; (#412) Nancy Noblett and Sarah Noblett (unmarried sisters of William); (#413) Elizabeth Baxter age 45, who may be the widowed mother of Sarah Baxter Lavender, wife of Thomas. On page 284, household/family 420: David M. Lavender 30 M Farmer born S. Car Mary J. Lavender 17 F NC William A. Lavender 2 M NC Sarah P. Lavender 1 F NC He lives near these families: (#416) John Ross, Esq. and his wife Elizabeth Gilliam Ross - he is the J. P. who married Thomas Lavender and Sarah Baxter; (#417) Josiah Mann and wife Catherine; (#418) Noah and Sarah Gilliam Souther - Noah the son of (#418) Jesse and Jane Combs Souther (My ancestors), and (#421) William and Margaret Adaline Noblett (my ancestors). This group of families were living in the area of Crooked Creek/Sugar Hill. Most of the families living as the neighbors of the Lavenders and Baxter family were in Burke Co., NC prior to that area being taken to make McDowell Co., in 1842. I am not sure if the Lavenders are also on the earlier Burke Co., NC census or not. That David M. Lavender is listed as born in South Carolina, while the others are listed as NC sort of throws me but perhaps the family moved down the mountain for a while and then back into NC, or the census taker made a clerical mistake. I am very interested in the way all these families inter-relate and often intermarry over subsequent generations, so I collect data on most of these families. Hope this is useful to you in your research. Charmaine