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    1. Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Carolean, High Shoals Township, Rutherford Co., NC
    2. You may want to try and see if you can narrow down your search by using the list that Ancestry.com has out on Enumerator Districts: <A HREF="http://ancestry.com/search/io/choosetw.asp?c=4&f7=NC&county=Rutherford">Ancestry.com - Search the 1900 Census - North Carolina - Rutherford County by T</A> Good Luck! Vicki

    06/17/2003 06:38:47
    1. [NCRUTHER-L] Carolean, High Shoals Township, Rutherford Co., NC
    2. Rhita Covello
    3. Hello, This is my first post to this list and actually my first foray into Rutherford County genealogy. I am researching the family of Landrum Morgan MORRIS and his 1st wife, Eliza F. CANTRELL. The 1910 Census shows Landrum living with his second wife, Elizabeth S. Huffstetler, and his children, Lloyd (13 - born in NC), Macie (10 - born in NC) and Edna (6 -born in NC). They are living in Carolean, High Shoals Township. Eliza died between 1906 and 1910, as she was the legatee in her mother's will, Elizabeth Wall Cantrell LOVELACE, probated in the Rutherford County Probate Court in 1906 and she signed for her $1. Obituary says that Elizabeth was living near Paris Bridge, Spartanburg Co., SC when she died so I don't know why her will was probated in Rutherford County (there is no estate file in Spartanburg County). The children were born in NC. I have checked the 1900 Rutherford Co. census for the High Shoals Township and do not see this family. I cannot find Carolean on the may that I have. Does anyone know what location Carolean or High Shoals Township is near? Any suggestions as to surrounding townships that I can search the 1900 census so that I won't research all the townships just to find that the last township, last page, is the page that I need? And...does anyone recognize the above family(s)? Any help would be appreciated. Rhita Wood Covello

    06/17/2003 06:01:17
    1. RE: [NCRUTHER-L] Obituary lookup question
    2. Lynn E.Wesson
    3. You could check with the NC Collection at UNC Chapel Hill---they have many newspapers on microfilm. Also the State Archives in Raleigh and the State Library in Raleigh have newspapers on microfilm. -----Original Message----- From: Aprpeac@aol.com [mailto:Aprpeac@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:16 PM To: NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] Obituary lookup question Does anyone know where I could find obituaries in Rutherford County in 1909, 1913, and/or 1923? I e-mailed Isothermal Community College but they do not have the specific papers I am looking for. Are there any libraries in Rutherford that would have obituaries from those years? Thanks for your help. ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com

    06/15/2003 05:57:37
    1. [NCRUTHER-L] Will of Charles Hill 1830
    2. Kathleen Summers
    3. I have posted the 1830 Rutherford County NC will of Charles Hill/Hills/Hilles. Charles and his wife Katherine were the parents of Olive Hill Dunkin, wife of Hiram Dunkin who died in Henderson County. Other children were: Rachel, Susannah and William Hill. Go to the Henderson County GenWeb site, click on "Records" then "Wills and Estates" http://www.rootsweb.com/~nchender/index.htm Please consider contributing documents to this site. Kathy Summers

    06/13/2003 09:10:14
    1. [NCRUTHER-L] Obituary lookup question
    2. Does anyone know where I could find obituaries in Rutherford County in 1909, 1913, and/or 1923? I e-mailed Isothermal Community College but they do not have the specific papers I am looking for. Are there any libraries in Rutherford that would have obituaries from those years? Thanks for your help.

    06/09/2003 01:16:16
    1. [NCRUTHER-L] Obituaries for George W. Green/George F. Green
    2. For anyone who is interested I received these two obituaries today from Isothermal Community College in Spindale. Obituary of George W. Green >From the Forest City Courier - dated October 19, 1933. FUNERAL HELD FOR MR. GEORGE GREEN Goode's Creek Man Dies Saturday Night After Extended Illness----Burial at Tanner's Grove Mooresboro, R 1, Oct. 17---Mr. George Green, aged 75, died Saturday at 10 p.m. at his home near Goode's Creek church, following an extended illness. He suffered a stroke of paralysis about two weeks ago from which he did not recover. Funeral services were held Monday afternoon from the Tanner's Grove Methodist church. The funeral ceremony was conducted by the Rev. J.W. Kennedy and Rev. T.M. Hester. Interment took place in the Tanner's Grove cemetery beside his wife who preceded him to the grave about twenty-four years ago. Mr. Green is survived by four daughters, Mrs. William Matheny, of Forest City, R-3; Mrs. Oscar Young, of Wake Forest, N.C.; Mrs. Grover Scruggs, of Cliffside, and Miss Hester Green who made her home with her father. Two sisters and one brother survive. They are Miss Susannah Green, a twin of the deceased, who makes her home with Mrs. J.G. Roach, of Harris, R-1; Mrs. William Tanners, of Mooresboro, R-1; and James Green, of Tampa, Fla. A large number of grandchildren survive. Mr. Green was born August 9, 1858, and at the time of his death was 75 years and two months of age. He was married to Miss Maggie Powell in young manhood. She preceded him to the grave a number of years ago. The deceased was a widely known citizen, a progressive farmer and a leader in thought and action in his community. He was a member of the Methodist church, having joined Tanner's Grove church a number of years ago. Grandsons of the deceased acted as pallbearers. Obituary of George F. Green >From the Forest City Courier - dated November 17, 1932. DEATH CLAIMS MR. GEORGE F. GREEN, JR. Former Spindale Policeman and Deputy Sheriff Passes in Rutherford Hospital Mr. George F. Green, aged 51, of near Tanner's Grove church, died in the Rutherford Hospital Wednesday morning at 1:40 o'clock, following a brief illness. As The Courier goes to press funeral arrangements have not been completed. Mr. Green is survived by his widow and eight children, as follows: Frank of Lattimore; Fred, Forest City, R-2, Leroy, of near Chesnee, Mrs. Guy Toney, of Golden Valley; George Willie, Wade, Lula Mae, and Marie, at home. One son, Gordon, was killed two years ago by the accidental discharge of a shotgun. He is also survived by his father, George Green Sr., of the Goode's Creek community, and four sisters, Hester Green, who resides with her father, Mrs. William Matheny, of West End, Forest City; Mrs. Oscar Young, of Wake Forest and Mrs. Grover Scruggs, of Cliffside. Several grandchildren also survive. Mr. Green was born August 26, 1881 and was about three months over fifty-one years of age at the time of his death. He was married in 1901 to Miss Della Fite. Mr. Green was widely known in the county, and served a number of years as a peace officer. He served several years as a member of the Spindale Police force and deputy sheriff, resigning there about eighteen months ago. Since that time he had been engaged in farming near Tanner's Grove church. He had apparently been in good health, but was taken to the Rutherford hospital Tuesday morning for treatment for a supposed slight ailment, and died there Wednesday morning. Funeral services and interment will probably take place at Tanner's Grove Methodist church Thursday (today.)

    06/09/2003 08:55:21
    1. Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Maggie Powell Green
    2. Judith Parker-Proctor
    3. From: <Aprpeac@aol.com> To: <NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Maggie Powell Green > In a message dated 6/4/2003 10:19:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > JPProctor@carolina.rr.com writes: > > > Yes, Uncle Isaac is listed with his parents &siblings in house #127 on the > > abstract of the 1850 Federal Census for Cleveland County, NC, that I have on > > my website. > > On the website it listed a Rebecca Mode and children as living in the Powell > home and there is a note about a bastardy bond involving Rebecca and Franklin > Goode with Nancy Powell as a witness. In Franklin's household there is a > Newton Powell. Do you know if Newton is related to Issac? Also, do you know if > the Modes were of any relation to the Powells? William Powell's wife Nancy's maiden name was Mode. I think Rebecca was her sister, but haven't done any research on that particular branch of Modes as yet. I don't know about Newton Powell. > > > > > A little hint if you haven't already noticed it. Next door to Uncle Isaac's > > family is a brother of James Lee Green. Also, in the small world > > department, is Mary Whitworth &two of her children. Mary is my husband's > > ancestor. > > > > I hadn't noticed that so thanks. I'm guessing since you didn't note > otherwise that William Powell was a farmer and that there was no one with any sort of > health problem in the household? Also, if you know, were the children in > school and could the family read and write? William Powell was a farmer. Neither he nor Nancy could read/write, nor could Benjamin or Rebecca Mode. There is no mention of whether any of the children attended school during the year. Also there is nothing in the real estate value for their farm. No health problems were mentioned. My particular branch of the Modes had deafness in the family. > Thanks. > > > ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== > > Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com > >

    06/06/2003 02:30:41
    1. Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Maggie Powell Green
    2. In a message dated 6/4/2003 10:19:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JPProctor@carolina.rr.com writes: > Yes, Uncle Isaac is listed with his parents &siblings in house #127 on the > abstract of the 1850 Federal Census for Cleveland County, NC, that I have on > my website. On the website it listed a Rebecca Mode and children as living in the Powell home and there is a note about a bastardy bond involving Rebecca and Franklin Goode with Nancy Powell as a witness. In Franklin's household there is a Newton Powell. Do you know if Newton is related to Issac? Also, do you know if the Modes were of any relation to the Powells? > > A little hint if you haven't already noticed it. Next door to Uncle Isaac's > family is a brother of James Lee Green. Also, in the small world > department, is Mary Whitworth &two of her children. Mary is my husband's > ancestor. > I hadn't noticed that so thanks. I'm guessing since you didn't note otherwise that William Powell was a farmer and that there was no one with any sort of health problem in the household? Also, if you know, were the children in school and could the family read and write? Thanks.

    06/04/2003 05:04:03
    1. Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Maggie Powell Green
    2. Judith Parker-Proctor
    3. From: <Aprpeac@aol.com> To: <NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Maggie Powell Green > > Also, is Isaac the same Issac L Powell on the 1850 census at <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~judytalk/1850.htm"> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~judytalk/1850.htm</A>. Yes, Uncle Isaac is listed with his parents & siblings in house #127 on the abstract of the 1850 Federal Census for Cleveland County, NC, that I have on my website. A little hint if you haven't already noticed it. Next door to Uncle Isaac's family is a brother of James Lee Green. Also, in the small world department, is Mary Whitworth & two of her children. Mary is my husband's ancestor.

    06/04/2003 04:18:21
    1. Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Maggie Powell Green
    2. Judith Parker-Proctor
    3. > I e-mailed the Achives and they told me that they do not search bonds > and that I would have to go there myself or hire someone to search the > bonds for me. Hello, Guess they don't do as much now with all the budget cuts. Sometime last year they began closing at noon for an hour & clear out the research room during that time. I'm not due to go back to the Archives until fall & will make a note to check for you, perhaps someone on the list will be making the trip before that time & can check. Nice thing about these lists, so many people are willing to help. > Thanks for the information. Are Nancy Cogdell Powell and Perry Green > Cogdell related to Adney, Allen, and Richard Cogdell from your website? Also, did > Isaac and/or Nancy die after October 1913, being would their death certificates > be at the State Achives? Yes they are siblings & all but Richard's should be at the archives. > > I also contacted Isothermal Community College and they have been helpful. > They are searching for the obituaries of several people for me, including Maggie > Powell Green, as well as George F. Green and James W. Green. Hopefully if > they are found it will help as to figuring out if Maggie is George F.'s mother > or not. You know, that's one place I had totally forgotten about, but it sure is nice of them to check for you. Might just have to take a ride up that way pretty soon & see what their library has that might be helpful. I've been to the Old Tryon & Rutherford County library, but have never been to Isothermal, other than for a couple of Medicare seminars. Judy

    06/04/2003 04:08:03
    1. Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Maggie Powell Green
    2. Also, is Isaac the same Issac L Powell on the 1850 census at <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~judytalk/1850.htm"> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~judytalk/1850.htm</A>. Thanks. > >>Uncle Isaac &Aunt Nancy both have death certificates on file in Cleveland > >>County. Hers gives her burial place, though she has no tombstone. Uncle > >>Isaac's stone is a government marker with only his initials &unit with > >>which he served in the War of Northern Aggression. Interestingly, William > >>Thomas gave the info on Uncle Isaac's death certificate. > >> > > Thanks for the information. Are Nancy Cogdell Powell and Perry Green > Cogdell related to Adney, Allen, and Richard Cogdell from your website? > Also, did > Isaac and/or Nancy die after October 1913, being would their death > certificates > be at the State Achives? > > I also contacted Isothermal Community College and they have been helpful. > They are searching for the obituaries of several people for me, including > Maggie > Powell Green, as well as George F. Green and James W. Green. Hopefully if > they are found it will help as to figuring out if Maggie is George F.'s > mother > or not. > > Thanks for your help. >

    06/04/2003 01:25:43
    1. Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Maggie Powell Green
    2. > >> of my copies of the Cleveland & Rutherford County pages doesn't bring up >> Maggie. Best thing to do is go to the North Carolina Archives website & >> follow their instructions for sending e-mail queries. Give them all the >> info you can & ask that they check the bonds for you. Nice folks there & >> very helpful. >> <A HREF="http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/archives/arch/default.htm">http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/archives/arch/default.htm</A> >> >> I e-mailed the Achives and they told me that they do not search bonds and that I would have to go there myself or hire someone to search the bonds for me. > >> >> Uncle Isaac & Aunt Nancy both have death certificates on file in Cleveland >> County. Hers gives her burial place, though she has no tombstone. Uncle >> Isaac's stone is a government marker with only his initials & unit with >> which he served in the War of Northern Aggression. Interestingly, William >> Thomas gave the info on Uncle Isaac's death certificate. >> Thanks for the information. Are Nancy Cogdell Powell and Perry Green Cogdell related to Adney, Allen, and Richard Cogdell from your website? Also, did Isaac and/or Nancy die after October 1913, being would their death certificates be at the State Achives? I also contacted Isothermal Community College and they have been helpful. They are searching for the obituaries of several people for me, including Maggie Powell Green, as well as George F. Green and James W. Green. Hopefully if they are found it will help as to figuring out if Maggie is George F.'s mother or not. Thanks for your help.

    06/03/2003 11:30:02
    1. RE: [NCRUTHER-L] Rutherford County 1860 slave schedule
    2. TC
    3. Thanks so much! This is exactly the info I needed! Tanica Campbell, IBSSG Researching MCMILLAN/ CANNON (SC/TN), HAMILTON/ GOODE (NC/TN), KIDD/ ANDERSON/ BRODY (MS/TN), ADAMS/ WILLIS/ ABERCROMBIE/ AGNEW (SC), WHITE/ CANTRELL (GA) -----Original Message----- From: Kit McChesney [mailto:kitmcchesney@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:04 PM To: TC; NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Rutherford County 1860 slave schedule Tanica-- Here are some pages that may help; the first outlines the instructions given to census takers in 1860; towards the bottom of the page, you'll find the instructions concerning enumeration of slaves, with mention of the fugitive issue: http://www.ipums.umn.edu/usa/voliii/inst1860.html The second of these pages is more descriptive of the "fugitive" definition: http://www.ipums.umn.edu/usa/volii/1860slave_datadic.html#FUGITIVE FUGITIVE -- Columns 150 Fugitive slave--identified on slave record Universe: All slaves (see user caution below). Description: FUGITIVE identifies individual slaves who escaped between June 1, 1859 and June 1, 1860 and had not been returned to their owners. Although not present in the holding, fugitive slaves were otherwise described as fully the possession of their owners. Users should use this variable with caution: it was not collected systematically and is not nationally representative. Enumerators were instructed to note how many slaves from a given holding had escaped within the past year, but not to note which individual slaves had escaped. According to the instructions, enumerators were to record how many fugitives had escaped from the holding across from the owner's name. In some cases, however, particular enumerators took it upon themselves to indicate which individual slave(s) in the holding had escaped. We have kept this additional information in the dataset for users who may want to look at the individual types of slaves who escaped. MUser Caution: FUGITIVE provides information on individual slaves who escaped, but the variable was not collected systematically and is not comprehensive. Users seeking a nationally-representative portrait of slave escapes should use the holding-level variable NOFUGITS (see below) or the published census reports by the 1860 Census Office. Kit McChesney [Researching BRADLEY in Rutherford and Cleveland Counties, NC BOLT, BALENTINE, BOYD in South Carolina McCHESNEY and HARMON in Pennsylvania McNAUGHTON, HOWARD, JONES, in Georgia]

    06/03/2003 10:32:18
    1. [NCRUTHER-L] Rutherford County 1860 slave schedule
    2. TC
    3. Can someone tell me what the following statement on the 1860 slave schedule means: "Fugitives from the state"? it's listed after age, sex, and color on the slave schedule, and so far I've noticed that many slaves per page have a check in that column, and most of them are young children, babies to age 18. A few are adults. But I'd like to know if it means something other than that those particular slaves ran away. Thanks! Tanica Campbell, IBSSG Researching MCMILLAN/ CANNON (SC/TN), HAMILTON/ GOODE (NC/TN), KIDD/ ANDERSON/ BRODY (MS/TN), ADAMS/ WILLIS/ ABERCROMBIE/ AGNEW (SC), WHITE/ CANTRELL (GA)

    06/03/2003 09:46:45
    1. Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Rutherford County 1860 slave schedule
    2. Kit McChesney
    3. Tanica-- Here are some pages that may help; the first outlines the instructions given to census takers in 1860; towards the bottom of the page, you'll find the instructions concerning enumeration of slaves, with mention of the fugitive issue: http://www.ipums.umn.edu/usa/voliii/inst1860.html The second of these pages is more descriptive of the "fugitive" definition: http://www.ipums.umn.edu/usa/volii/1860slave_datadic.html#FUGITIVE FUGITIVE -- Columns 150 Fugitive slave--identified on slave record Universe: All slaves (see user caution below). Description: FUGITIVE identifies individual slaves who escaped between June 1, 1859 and June 1, 1860 and had not been returned to their owners. Although not present in the holding, fugitive slaves were otherwise described as fully the possession of their owners. Users should use this variable with caution: it was not collected systematically and is not nationally representative. Enumerators were instructed to note how many slaves from a given holding had escaped within the past year, but not to note which individual slaves had escaped. According to the instructions, enumerators were to record how many fugitives had escaped from the holding across from the owner's name. In some cases, however, particular enumerators took it upon themselves to indicate which individual slave(s) in the holding had escaped. We have kept this additional information in the dataset for users who may want to look at the individual types of slaves who escaped. MUser Caution: FUGITIVE provides information on individual slaves who escaped, but the variable was not collected systematically and is not comprehensive. Users seeking a nationally-representative portrait of slave escapes should use the holding-level variable NOFUGITS (see below) or the published census reports by the 1860 Census Office. Kit McChesney [Researching BRADLEY in Rutherford and Cleveland Counties, NC BOLT, BALENTINE, BOYD in South Carolina McCHESNEY and HARMON in Pennsylvania McNAUGHTON, HOWARD, JONES, in Georgia] ----- Original Message ----- From: "TC" <tanica@thecampbellfamilyhome.com> To: <NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] Rutherford County 1860 slave schedule > Can someone tell me what the following statement on the 1860 slave > schedule means: "Fugitives from the state"? it's listed after age, sex, > and color on the slave schedule, and so far I've noticed that many > slaves per page have a check in that column, and most of them are young > children, babies to age 18. A few are adults. But I'd like to know if > it means something other than that those particular slaves ran away. > > Thanks! > > Tanica Campbell, IBSSG > Researching MCMILLAN/ CANNON (SC/TN), HAMILTON/ GOODE (NC/TN), KIDD/ > ANDERSON/ BRODY (MS/TN), ADAMS/ WILLIS/ ABERCROMBIE/ AGNEW (SC), WHITE/ > CANTRELL (GA) > > > > > ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== > > Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com > >

    06/03/2003 09:03:45
    1. Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Federal prison records in late 1800s
    2. Cheryl Chasin
    3. In addition to prison records, you might want to look for records of his trial. I'm not intimately familiar with federal (or state) criminal law, but I would think if he was in a federal prison, he was tried in a federal court. If you know anyone with access to LEXIS, a search on the name of your ancestor might find something if they have the appropriate records computerized. If you live near a law school, it's possible a law librarian would be willing to help you out. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MaxLaw@aol.com> To: <NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:54 AM Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] Federal prison records in late 1800s > Oral history states that my great-grandfather P.G. (Patillo Golightly) > MAHAFFEE, I am sad to admit, did time in the federal prison in Atlanta after the > Civil War. The charge, my Dad told me years ago, was lynching. What I would > like to get my hands on are the records of the federal prison, which I would hope > had the ancestors and other useful information....Anyone have any idea. > > My great-grandfather was born in South Carolina in 1945 and died in > Rutherford County, NC in 1935. I posted a photo of him and a photo of his grave and > that of his wife Rose A. (Brown) MAHAFFEE on the website www.findagrave.com > > Max G. Mahaffee > Charleston, SC > > > ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== > > Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com > >

    06/02/2003 12:37:10
    1. [NCRUTHER-L] Federal prison records in late 1800s
    2. Oral history states that my great-grandfather P.G. (Patillo Golightly) MAHAFFEE, I am sad to admit, did time in the federal prison in Atlanta after the Civil War. The charge, my Dad told me years ago, was lynching. What I would like to get my hands on are the records of the federal prison, which I would hope had the ancestors and other useful information....Anyone have any idea. My great-grandfather was born in South Carolina in 1945 and died in Rutherford County, NC in 1935. I posted a photo of him and a photo of his grave and that of his wife Rose A. (Brown) MAHAFFEE on the website www.findagrave.com Max G. Mahaffee Charleston, SC

    06/02/2003 04:54:54
    1. RE: [NCRUTHER-L] Federal prison records in late 1800s
    2. TC
    3. Hi Max. I think probably the best place to see if anyone has info on how to get more information is the Black Sheep list. The people are very friendly and helpful. Someone may be able to tell you how to find those records. You can post to the message board http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations. blacksheep or to BLACKSHEEP-L@rootsweb.com. This is what Ancestry has to say about the society (of which I'm a member): "If you've found an ancestor who was infamous, a crook or scoundrel, don't despair over your disgrace: You may qualify for membership in the International Black Sheep Society of Genealogists [IBSSG] found at http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com. Public knowledge of these black sheep, reasons society flockmaster Jeff Scism, enhances the possibility of finding more about these ancestors, who otherwise might be genealogical dead ends." Tanica Campbell, IBSSG Researching MCMILLAN/ CANNON (SC/TN), HAMILTON/ GOODE (NC/TN), KIDD/ ANDERSON/ BRODY (MS/TN), ADAMS/ WILLIS/ ABERCROMBIE/ AGNEW (SC), WHITE/ CANTRELL (GA) -----Original Message----- From: MaxLaw@aol.com [mailto:MaxLaw@aol.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:55 AM To: NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] Federal prison records in late 1800s Oral history states that my great-grandfather P.G. (Patillo Golightly) MAHAFFEE, I am sad to admit, did time in the federal prison in Atlanta after the Civil War. The charge, my Dad told me years ago, was lynching. What I would like to get my hands on are the records of the federal prison, which I would hope had the ancestors and other useful information....Anyone have any idea. My great-grandfather was born in South Carolina in 1945 and died in Rutherford County, NC in 1935. I posted a photo of him and a photo of his grave and that of his wife Rose A. (Brown) MAHAFFEE on the website www.findagrave.com Max G. Mahaffee Charleston, SC ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com

    06/02/2003 04:09:21
    1. Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Broad River Digest
    2. Also, I have read that letters written by James Lee Green are published in the book but what else is included?  How many pages, are there pictures?, etc. Thanks In a message dated 5/31/2003 1:14:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Aprpeac@aol.com writes: > > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the book "A Broad River Digest"? > > I have looked several places and e-mailed the author but have been unable to > > find the book. > > Thanks for your help. > >

    06/01/2003 02:33:15
    1. Re: [NCRUTHER-L] Maggie Powell Green
    2. Judith Parker-Proctor
    3. > Do you know who the Nancy F. Mauney Powell is that is listed on Bill Floyd's > website with William Thomas and his family? Hello again, The 1900 Federal Census for Cleveland County, NC, identifies Nancy as Mary's mother. I think Bill, as well as the WPA workers in 1939, picked up the last name of Powell as all the people listed together have only one tombstone. It is one of the tall obelisk types with Powell as the surname. Would be natural to assume Nancy F Mauney was a Powell, but she was not unless she married one between 1900 & 1907 when she died. > Would the Rutherford County Register of Deeds have bastardy bonds or is there > possibly a book available? Also, have you pulled either George W., Mary > Elizabeth, Hester Ann, James, or Carrie's death certificate? I have George and > Maggie's daughter Cora's but am interested in the rest. Mainly cause of death > as I am sort of keeping track of how people in my family died. There is a book lisiting the bastardy bonds available, however a quick check of my copies of the Cleveland & Rutherford County pages doesn't bring up Maggie. Best thing to do is go to the North Carolina Archives website & follow their instructions for sending e-mail queries. Give them all the info you can & ask that they check the bonds for you. Nice folks there & very helpful. http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/archives/arch/default.htm No I haven't pulled the death certificates of these folks yet, but they are also available from the Archives as well as the Register of Deeds offices. > > Also, are there dates for the birth and death of Maggie's parents as well as > their parents names? I know Isaac is buried in Union Baptist Cemetery but > there are no dates listed. Uncle Isaac & Aunt Nancy both have death certificates on file in Cleveland County. Hers gives her burial place, though she has no tombstone. Uncle Isaac's stone is a government marker with only his initials & unit with which he served in the War of Northern Agression. Interestingly, William Thomas gave the info on Uncle Isaac's death certificate. Judy

    06/01/2003 03:45:00