C. R. Doggett was Charles Reinhardt "Charlie" Doggett (b: 9 Nov 1863; d: 21 Dec 1938) husband of Laura Gertrude Wray (b: 19 Jan 1868; d: 29 Nov 1936). He was the son of Minor Wynn Doggett and Judith Margaret Blanton. Thanks Ted.... Minor Wynn Doggett, Sgt. [Company E, 12th Regiment of NC Troops "Cleveland Guards"] August 16, 1840-February 19, 1902 s/o Lewis Coleman Doggett (Township 2) & Mary Ann Smith. Margaret Judith Blanton February 12, 1845-August 06, 1924 d/o Charles Blanton (Township 6 - Zion Baptist Cemetery) & Judith Hamrick. Jeff

Thanks to Jeff Martin for all that good background information. The only thing I have to add is that C. R. Doggett was Charles Reinhardt "Charlie" Doggett (b: 9 Nov 1863; d: 21 Dec 1938) husband of Laura Gertrude Wray (b: 19 Jan 1868; d: 29 Nov 1936). He was the son of Minor Wynn Doggett and Judith Margaret Blanton. Ted

J J McMurry was Jesse Jenkins McMurry born 5/1/1849 died 1/5/1934 buried in Sunset Cemetary, Shelby, Cleveland Co., NC his wife was Margaret Hamrick...born about 1846 died 1885 also buried in Sunset I have the children listed as Simeon Andrew McMurry born 2-19-1870 died 9/6/1958 Avery Winslow McMurry born 19/25/1872 died 9/20/1951 Hannah Elizabeth McMurry born 7/27/1874 died 1/1/1903 All three Children and their spouses were also buried in Sunset Cemetery I know that this wasn't the real question that you wanted answered in you first inquiry but I thought you might find it interesting.

Addendum: Here is some info on an albert Green who may have been your other witness: Cleveland Co., Shelby, ED 70, p543C Albert Green, 42, saddler & harness maker Julia, 36, wife, keeps house, Cora E., 18, daughter, music teacher Will B. Corbett, 11, stepson, goes to school C.C. Durham, 67, boarder, farmer all born NC. Lynn Wesson Chapel Hill, NC > > From: Greg Lovelace <gregl@starfishnet.com> > Date: 2004/04/11 Sun PM 04:33:06 EDT > To: NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] McMurray's Store, Cleveland Co. > > Hi, all > > I realize this isn't the Cleveland Co. list, but I have an 1891 marriage > certificate for Samuel Lovelace and Julia Philbeck filed in Cleveland > Co. Both families will trace back to Rutherford Co., which is why I'm > asking the question here. > > Sam and Julia were married by G. M. Webb, Baptist Minister, whom I assume > to be George M. Webb. They were married at "McMurry's Stoare" in > Shelby. The witnesses were J. J. McMurry, whom I assume to be the store > owner, C. R. Doggett, whom I assume, based on 1880 census records to be > Charles R. Doggett, and Albert Green, who I have no idea about. > > Anybody know anything about McMurry's Store or JJ McMurry? I can't find > any McMurray's in the 1880 or 1900 Cleveland Co. census records which might > match this J. J. Just trying to figure out all the principals and > witnesses in this marriage, and any help would be appreciated :-) > > Peace, > Part of the Tree, > Greg Lovelace > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== > > Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Most of the McMurry's were spelled as such in Cleveland Co. J.J. McMurry was on the 1880 census in Sandy Run, Township No. 7. ED 71, p2/569B: J.J. McMurry, 31, farmer, b NC Margaret, 34, housekeeper, b NC A.S., 10, son A.W., 7, son H.E., 5, daughter. You might check the 1880 Manufacturers' census to see if McMurry store is listed or look for ads in microfilmed editions of The New Era published in Shelby. There are issues from 1887-1889 on microfilm. Lynn Wesson Chapel Hill, NC > > From: Greg Lovelace <gregl@starfishnet.com> > Date: 2004/04/11 Sun PM 04:33:06 EDT > To: NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] McMurray's Store, Cleveland Co. > > Hi, all > > I realize this isn't the Cleveland Co. list, but I have an 1891 marriage > certificate for Samuel Lovelace and Julia Philbeck filed in Cleveland > Co. Both families will trace back to Rutherford Co., which is why I'm > asking the question here. > > Sam and Julia were married by G. M. Webb, Baptist Minister, whom I assume > to be George M. Webb. They were married at "McMurry's Stoare" in > Shelby. The witnesses were J. J. McMurry, whom I assume to be the store > owner, C. R. Doggett, whom I assume, based on 1880 census records to be > Charles R. Doggett, and Albert Green, who I have no idea about. > > Anybody know anything about McMurry's Store or JJ McMurry? I can't find > any McMurray's in the 1880 or 1900 Cleveland Co. census records which might > match this J. J. Just trying to figure out all the principals and > witnesses in this marriage, and any help would be appreciated :-) > > Peace, > Part of the Tree, > Greg Lovelace > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== > > Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Hi Lynn... I responded to Greg directly and forgot to CC the group. Here is some additional information for those interested: Albert Green, Pvt. (Coroner) (b. c1836 s/o Elias Green & Rebecca Hamrick) m. Mary Jane Washburn (August 10, 1835-February 9, 1875 d/o Abraham Washburn & Rebecca Durham). Cannot find C. R. Doggett so assume he was born post 1850. Rev. George Milton Webb (c1831-c1917 s/o James M. Webb & Catherine White) m. Priscilla Jane Blanton (c1833-June 12, 1916 d/o George Blanton & Priscilla Harrill). Jesse Jenkins McMurray (May 01, 1849-January 05, 1934 s/o John Wilson McMurray & Elizabeth Jenkins) m. Margaret Hamrick (c1846-c1885 d/o Elijah M. Hamrick, Jr. & Hannah Hamrick) m. 2nd Hessentine Gardner (c1856-c1927) Who were her parents? Jesse had land in Township 6 and Township 7; burried Cleveland Co. NC (Sunset Cemetery - Shamrock Section). Lynn.... I believe Julia (who you show with Albert Green in the 1880) is really his 2nd wife. His 1st wife (Mary Jane Washburn) died in 1875. Julia (or Zulia as shown in some documents) was the 1st wife of Capt. William S. Corbett who died in 1869, the same aprox year as the William Corbett Jr. you list in this 1880 census as age 11. Also on that census you show "C.C. Durham, 67, boarder, farmer." This was Julia/Zulia's father, Charles Crawford Durham, Pvt. (1814-1887). Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Lynn E. Wesson, M.D. [mailto:lynn@fastcode.com] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:50 AM To: NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCRUTHER-L] McMurray's Store, Cleveland Co. Addendum: Here is some info on an albert Green who may have been your other witness: Cleveland Co., Shelby, ED 70, p543C Albert Green, 42, saddler & harness maker Julia, 36, wife, keeps house, Cora E., 18, daughter, music teacher Will B. Corbett, 11, stepson, goes to school C.C. Durham, 67, boarder, farmer all born NC. Lynn Wesson Chapel Hill, NC > > From: Greg Lovelace <gregl@starfishnet.com> > Date: 2004/04/11 Sun PM 04:33:06 EDT > To: NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] McMurray's Store, Cleveland Co. > > Hi, all > > I realize this isn't the Cleveland Co. list, but I have an 1891 marriage > certificate for Samuel Lovelace and Julia Philbeck filed in Cleveland > Co. Both families will trace back to Rutherford Co., which is why I'm > asking the question here. > > Sam and Julia were married by G. M. Webb, Baptist Minister, whom I assume > to be George M. Webb. They were married at "McMurry's Stoare" in > Shelby. The witnesses were J. J. McMurry, whom I assume to be the store > owner, C. R. Doggett, whom I assume, based on 1880 census records to be > Charles R. Doggett, and Albert Green, who I have no idea about. > > Anybody know anything about McMurry's Store or JJ McMurry? I can't find > any McMurray's in the 1880 or 1900 Cleveland Co. census records which might > match this J. J. Just trying to figure out all the principals and > witnesses in this marriage, and any help would be appreciated :-) > > Peace, > Part of the Tree, > Greg Lovelace > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== > > Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com > > ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com

Hi, all I realize this isn't the Cleveland Co. list, but I have an 1891 marriage certificate for Samuel Lovelace and Julia Philbeck filed in Cleveland Co. Both families will trace back to Rutherford Co., which is why I'm asking the question here. Sam and Julia were married by G. M. Webb, Baptist Minister, whom I assume to be George M. Webb. They were married at "McMurry's Stoare" in Shelby. The witnesses were J. J. McMurry, whom I assume to be the store owner, C. R. Doggett, whom I assume, based on 1880 census records to be Charles R. Doggett, and Albert Green, who I have no idea about. Anybody know anything about McMurry's Store or JJ McMurry? I can't find any McMurray's in the 1880 or 1900 Cleveland Co. census records which might match this J. J. Just trying to figure out all the principals and witnesses in this marriage, and any help would be appreciated :-) Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg Lovelace --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

Larry, my husband is a direct descendant of this WEBB family. Let me know if we connect. First Generation 1. Peter WEBB. Born on 1 Dec 1657 in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. Peter died in Braintree, Norfolk, MA, on 12 Feb 1717; he was 59. In 1683 when Peter was 25, he married Ruth BASS, daughter of John BASS (18 Sep 1630-23 Sep 1716) & Ruth ALDEN (1634-12 Oct 1674), in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. Born on 28 Jan 1663 in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. Ruth died in Braintree, Norfolk, MA, on 5 Jun 1699; she was 36. They had the following children: i. Ruth. Born on 7 May 1684 in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. ii. Peter. Born on 25 Dec 1685 in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. iii. David. Born on 27 Nov 1687 in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. iv. Christopher. Born on 30 Dec 1689 in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. v. Hannah. Born on 14 Mar 1692 in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. Hannah died in Braintree, Norfolk, MA, on 17 May 1693; she was 1. vi. John. Born on 10 Mar 1693 in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. John died on 14 Oct 1749; he was 56. vii. Hannah. Born on 8 Sep 1694 in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. viii. Mary. Born on 4 Jun 1696 in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. ix. Joseph. Born on 17 Jun 1696 in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. 2 x. Priscilla (1697-1731) xi. Mary. Born on 1 Sep 1697 in MA. xii. Mary. Born on 5 Oct 1698 in Braintree, Norfolk, MA. Hope this helps, Lanita Sconce Miller www.lanitasloft.com

I am seeking any additional information that you can provide about the parents/siblings of Pleasant Webb. Thanks a million. ============================================================= Pleasant (Plesent) WEBB was born about ca 1760-1765. His son, Elias, said that his father, Pleasant was born in Ireland (not substantiated). He died between 1830 and 1840 in Ohio, USA. Around 1800 Pleasant and family came in to the Ohio valley from Rutherford County, North Carolina . In 1803 (reported to be 45 years old) he was at the Licks in Scioto County, Ohio. Pleasant was in GreenupCounty, Kentucky in 1820 and in Lawrence County, Ohio in 1830. He did not appear in the 1840 census, so it is believed he died between 1830-1840. Pleasant (Plesent) WEBB and Unknown had the following children: James WEBB (1786), Elias WEBB (1788), Thomas Hanley WEBB (1795), Aden WEBB (1797), Temperance WEBB (1799), William WEBB (1801), Margaret WEBB (1806), Sarah (Sally) WEBB (1809), and Baker WEBB (1811). Larry D. Loiselle 19967 Blake Manor Rd Manor, Texas 78653 (512) 272-5770 ditvenet@@hotmail.com

Bill, You are one of the saints for Family History. Thanks for all the you have done and all that you are doing. Fran Goode Akridge -----Original Message----- From: W. D. Floyd [mailto:wdfloyd@rfci.net] Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 10:16 PM To: NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] Photos of Deed Book A-D Folks I have Rutherford Co., NC Deed Book A-D photographed so if you need something from it just give me the page number and I can E-mail the photo. This is the earliest Deed Book in the Register of Deeds Office. Bill ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com

Folks I have Rutherford Co., NC Deed Book A-D photographed so if you need something from it just give me the page number and I can E-mail the photo. This is the earliest Deed Book in the Register of Deeds Office. Bill

Bill, you are the greatest! The amount of work you have done with deeds, cemeteries, etc., is amazing, and everyone researching in the areas you have covered has or will benefit. Thank you! I have quite a few pages from those deed books to request, but will do so in a private email. When I was in the courthouse, I just abstracted the deeds I wanted, as there was no copy machine available and I didn't have a digital camera (assuming such existed at that time!) Margaret Lindsey Smith - - - - - - - - - - - - - - On 3 Apr, Bill wrote: Folks I have Rutherford Co., NC Deed Book A-D photographed so if you need something from it just give me the page number and I can E-mail the photo. This is the earliest Deed Book in the Register of Deeds Office.

At 01:58 PM 3/29/2004 -0500, a Lovelace List researcher wrote: >I came across this while reading. It is from a book. Lewis Family >Genealogy, by William Terrell Lewis date: 1893 from Rutherford >Co. NC >Jesse Taliaferro, son of Charles Lewis, Sr. was born in Rutherford Co, NC in >1808. >Jesse married Susan, daughter of Stephen Cowart, in 1843. >Susan had 7 children. >One of her children: > Nancy Elizabeth, b. 1844 (d. in MO) married William Jay in 1860. >Nancy had a daughter: > Louisa Jane ..b. 1848 married Munroe Lovelace. >(the book was on Heritage Quest) I puzzled over this for a while, and with the help of J. R. Hamrick finally figured it all out. We looked at the page of the book on HeritageQuest, and it has the generation numbers included. Here's the source citation: Lewis, Wm. Terrell: Genealogy of the Lewis family in America from the middle of the seventeenth century down to the present time; Louisville, Ky.: Courier-Journal Job Print. Co., 1893, c 1892, 459 pgs. The Louisa Jane mentioned above is actually Nancy's sister, not daughter. "E11. Jesse Taliaferro, son of Charles Lewis, Sr., was born in Rutherford county, North Carolina, in 1808. He is a farmer and member of the Baptist church at Mountain Creek Meeting-house. He is about five feet seven inches in height, with blue eyes and auburn hair. His post-office is Green Hill, Rutherford county, N. C. In 1843 he married Susan, daughter of Stephen Cowart, of Rutherford county, who died in May, 1886. She had seven children, viz: F1. Nancy Elizabeth, born in 1844. In 1860 she married William Jay, son of James Jay, of Rutherford county, North Carolina. She died in Newton county, Missouri, and left the following named children: G1. Carl Pulfio Cummins, born in 1863 G2. Grisef Dreadnaught Xerxes, born in 1865, and died in 1866 [Greg's note: With a name like that, no wonder the child died in infancy!!!] F2. Mary E., daughter of Jesse T. Lewis, born in 1846; married Jesse Sorrels. F3. Louisa Jane, born in 1848; married Munroe Lovelace F4. William Thomas, born in 1850; died single F5. Richard Taliaferro, born in 1851. F6. James Madison, born in 1853. F7. Laura Elizabeth, born in 1855." And here Mr. Lewis made a mistake. Laura Elizabeth Lewis married Monroe Miller Lovelace in 1881. The marriage record is listed on Bill Floyd's website at http://rfci.net/wdfloyd/rclicdex.html Lovelace, M. M. Lewis, Laura 1881 I've asked Bill for a copy. And my database does show Laura E. Lewis, daughter of Jessie T. Lovelace, married to Monroe Miller Lovelace based on data from Cousin Doug Lovelace and Dr. Marc Hoyle Lovelace. Monroe Miller Lovelace was the son of Nathan Crawford and Mary Elizabeth Boggs Lovelace. Nathan Crawford was the son of Thomas and Judith McSwain Lovelace. Thomas was the son of Asa and Susannah Hardin Lovelace. Asa is thought to be the son of Barton and Lucy Watson Lovelace of Montgomery Co., MD. Barton is thought to be the son of Benjamin and Sarah Lovelace of Montgomery Co., MD. Benjamin is thought to be the son of John Lovelace. Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

The 1810 census is in semi-alphabetical order. Does anyone know of any way in determining where the people in the census were living and by whom? For instance, how can I find out if Thomas Wilkinson was living in proximity to David Nowlin? Is the census arranged by districts? Thanks for any help! Melody

At 06:07 AM 4/2/2004 -0600, Jeff Martin wrote: >Greg... Sorry I cannot help you with parents of Munroe Lovelace. I do >however, believe William H. M. Jay, Pvt. b. c1841 was s/o James Vestal Jay >and Catherine W. Hyder. Do you know anything else about this Charles Lewis >Sr? any dates or parents names? I just browsed through the book I originally cited (available on HeritageQuest if your library has a subscription), and it states that Charles was Charrs Crawford Lewis, son of John and Sarah Taliaferro Lewis, born Albemarle Co,., VA in 1761, married to Elizabeth Russell. His death is reported as being in Rutherford Co. in 1833. There is an entire chapter devoted to him and his descendants. Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

Hi, all On HeritageQuest Online, there is the following book: Title: Genealogy of the Lewis family in America : from the middle of the seventeenth century down to the present time Author: Lewis, Wm. Terrell 1811-1893. City of Publication: Louisville, Ky. Publisher: Courier-Journal Job Print. Co. Date: 1893, c 1892 Page 285 details some of the family of Jesse Taliaferro Lewis, son of Charles Lewis, Sr. To paraphrase: Jesse Taliaferro, son of Charles Lewis, Sr. was born in Rutherford Co, NC in 1808. Jesse married Susan, daughter of Stephen Cowart, in 1843. Susan had 7 children. One of her children: Nancy Elizabeth, b. 1844 (d. in MO) married William Jay in 1860. Nancy had a daughter: Louisa Jane ..b. 1848 married Munroe Lovelace. Is anyone familiar with this family? Does anyone know the parents of Munroe Lovelace? Thanks! Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg Lovelace --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

A copy of the Jesse Horn Book is in the Genealogical Society of Old Tryon County, NC Library in Forest City. Alice Bradley, Librarian

Good morning folks, I'd love to see this book also. Enjoy the trek, Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tamara Stevens" <tamara@bearsandhares.com> To: <NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 1:32 AM Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] Jesse Horn > Does anybody have a copy of THE DESCENDANTS OF JESSE HORN OF RUTHERFORD CO., > NC, compiled by Rollin Wilson Gillespie? I'd like a copy of it or some > copies from it if someone can help -- > Thanks, > Tamara > > > > ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== > > Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Does anybody have a copy of THE DESCENDANTS OF JESSE HORN OF RUTHERFORD CO., NC, compiled by Rollin Wilson Gillespie? I'd like a copy of it or some copies from it if someone can help -- Thanks, Tamara

I am searching for information on Johnston Families of Rutherford county,N.C. John Johnston d-cir.1847 in Georgia, his children are\ John Johnston jr Wiley johnston b-1801 married Rebecca Keeter Nathaniel Johnston William Johnston George Johnston Frances Johnston married Loney Cook Rebecca Johnston married Walker if anyone relates or has info please contact me,I do not know who John Sr married or his parents ,any help is needed thanks