Hi, all Over the past several weeks I have been working on the family connections of Elizabeth Lovelace Braddy of Rutherford Co., NC. I have known about Elizabeth's marriage to Alfred Braddy for many years, and am now confident enough to offer her parentage. I believe her to be the daughter of Green Lovelace and Rebecca Moore (Green's first marriage) and the granddaughter of Nathan Lovelace. I now have copies of the marriage bond and marriage certificate for Alfred and Elizabeth. I also have census records following Alfred from 1850 (with his parents Joseph and Susan Brady) through 1860, when he is listed with Elizabeth. The roster of NC troops in the War Between the States shows that an Alfred Brady enlisted in CoK, 50th NC Infantry in 1862, and that he died of "typhoid pneumonia" in hospital in Savannah, GA on 22 Dec 1864. Elizabeth's census records begin in 1840, when she is listed as a female under 5 in the home of Green. At this point, Green's wife Rebecca Moore appears to have died. He is listed alone with a boy under 5 (Benjamin), a boy 5-10 (William), and a girl under 5 (Elizabeth). I can't find Elizabeth in the 1850 census, but she shows up in 1860 married to Alfred. In 1870, following the death of Alfred in Savannah, she's living in Colfax Twp., Mooresboro PO, Rutherford Co. in the home of Daniel and Elizabeth (Green) Lovelace. I'm unsure right now of Daniel's relationship to Elizabeth Lovelace Braddy, but they have to be related. Elizabeth is listed in this census as Betty Braddy, and she has a young daughter Lila Braddy, age 8. I cannot find Elizabeth or Lila in 1880, but by 1900 Lila has married John W. Wyatt. She is listed as Delilah Wyett, wife, in the home of John Wyett. Also in the home is Elizabeth Braddy, mother-in-law. She's listed as a widow, mother of 1, 1 still living. Finally, in 1903, Elizabeth Braddy filed for a Confederate Widow's Pension for the service of her husband Alfred Braddy, who is listed as having served in Co. K, 50th NC Infantry. She's listed as living in Island Ford, Sulphur Springs Twp., Rutherford Co. Signing the application as witnesses are J. W. Wyatt (her son-in-law John, also of Island Ford) and E. B. Tate (maybe Ebenezer Tate, who is in the 1900 and 1910 census). Included in the application is a letter from Dr. Romer Hicks (signed as R. Hicks, MD) stating that Elizabeth is so disabled that she cannot travel to Rutherfordton to meet with the pension board. I cannot find any trace of Elizabeth following her pension application, which was approved by the Board of Pensions in July 1903. This has been a fulfilling family to trace. I've been trying for years now to figure out Alfred and Elizabeth. I think this finally has it :-) --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

Hi, all... I have in my hands the Confederate Pension application of Elizabeth Lovelace Braddy, the widow of Alfred Braddy who served in Co.K of the 50th NC Infantry, dated 27 Jun 1903. Both Elizabeth and her son-in-law John W. Wyatt (a witness to the application) were said to have been living in Island Ford PO. Another witness E. B. (Ebenezer?) Tate was said to reside at Ferry. Can anyone give me the locations of these places? Thanks! Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

Does anyone know the earliest documented evidence for Fosters in Rutherford County? I see by the census records that there were a number of Fosters there by 1790. Were they there before that? If so, where did they come from? Are they related to the Fosters in nearby Spartanburg and York Counties, SC? I am particularly interested in the Fosters that intermarried with the Langford/Lankford family, especially the Daniel Foster listed on the War of 1812 muster rolls for Rutherford County. He's on the 1820 census, but has gone by 1830. Anyone know where he went to? Thanks for any help. Bob Foster Williamsburg, VA _________________________________________________________________ From ‘will you?’ to ‘I do,’ MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married

Thanks for everything Bill,you'll never know how much I appreciate you and your hard work,you are the greatest Candi/N.C.

Talk about mistakes... I was so excited when the 1930 census came out. It listed my father as Merl Wilson instead of Dyer. They listed him with my aunt's family. I went around in shock and disbelief! My grandparents died before I was born. So, if there was a chance that my aunt who I adored was really my grandmother... (she had also died) Enough people persuaded me it had to be a mistake. He was a lot younger and could have been playing at her house when the census was taken. I'm still left wondering... Barb Researching -- Dyer's, Splawn's, Childers, Gibbs, McBrayer's, Allen's, Griffin's, Harrill's, Waldrop's, Channell's, Folsom's, Whisler's, Breed's and a whole lot more!

In a message dated 6/17/04 9:14:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wdfloyd@rfci.net writes: First off let me say, I have one of the very few completely free and also ad free genealogy websites on the web. For those not aquainted with it go to http://www.rfci.net/wdfloyd Bill, I think a lot of people should be happy you have so much on your website and there will always be matters of names speeled differently and DOB, DOD being different in different places. My thanks to you for such wonderful hard work and expense you have gone thru to have so much on the web for free. Not many things are free anymore. My thanks to you, Melanie Oates Malone

Hi ALL, I to want to say I love Bill for all the hard work he has done to help the people not just in NC & SC but all across the USA. I'm in northern Minnesota. Finding my ancestors in the cemeteries on Bill's website was a godsend to me. In my early days of research I only had my computer to get me to the places of their births and deaths. From Bill's pages I was able to get Birth Certif. and Death Certif. with the info. from his pages. If a date is wrong to you, it don't mean Bill typed it wrong. I got my fathers birth certif. and guess what, he was listed as being born a girl. The Doctor did that. And the County had to record it as the Doctor wrote it. Even when my Grandmother told them differently. This same father died 1:15AM on the 16th., Doctor recorded it as 17th. and the county would not change it even though the Funeral Home had him in a coffin on the 16th. So I guess the Doctor's word is the law even when it's wrong. Thanks, Bill, Jean in MN

Bill, I cannot express my gratitude for all you have done on the genealogy scene in SC and NC. Your dedication and determination have given us all great strength in pursuing our family history and without your web page (which has been at the top of my favorite places since I discovered it 6? years ago) I would not even be close to where I am now. BRAVO Bill and GOD BLESS  you for all you have done.         Charlotte Yes, Bill, thank you, thank you! Can we erect a statute or name something after you? You don't know how much your work has meant to us. Wish there was something we could do to help. Barbara doing SC & NC genealogy from California.

Bill, I cannot express my gratitude for all you have done on the genealogy scene in SC and NC. Your dedication and determination have given us all great strength in pursuing our family history and without your web page (which has been at the top of my favorite places since I discovered it 6? years ago) I would not even be close to where I am now. BRAVO Bill and GOD BLESS you for all you have done. Charlotte doing SC & NC genealogy from Massachusetts

Thank you, Bill, for putting these records online. Without people like you, a lot of researchers would not have access to many records. I commend you for your efforts and your generosity. Mary Shular Hopper ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. D. Floyd" <wdfloyd@rfci.net> To: <NCRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 9:13 AM Subject: [NCRUTHER-L] Genealogical Records on the Internet > List Members, > First off let me say, I have one of the very few completely free and also ad free genealogy websites on the web. For those not aquainted with it go to http://www.rfci.net/wdfloyd > All the records that are found on the web has all had a considerable amount of time involved in getting them there and in many cases some expense. All of these records will have errors in them. As far as I know there was only one perfect person that ever walked the face of the earth. It is such an easy matter to make errors. I have seen census records where the name may have changed 4-6 times in a persons life time and had a different name on a marriage license and then even different on the tombstone. Just because it is spelled wrong or has the wrong middle initial does not mean that it is not that person that you believe it to be. It got you to this point so try to prove if it is the person you want it to be or not. Without that wrongly spelled name you would not be at this point. I find that people spend a lot of time trying to get names changed to what they think it should be. I am sure that most of them are exactly correct but I have had instants where some one totalled! > disagreed with a cemetery record and wanted it changed to fit their needs and then when I rechecked the cemetery they were wrong. The records that are online are not there to try and mislead anyone. They are there to try and help people find their genealogy breakthroughs and even though they have errors that you want changed they have served their purpose. Every person that does genealogy should verify every thing to their own satisfaction. Many people are perfectly happy just having their line back to 1800 with no proof on anything. That makes me happy. Many people may want some kind of document proving beyond any doubt that their whole genealogy is perfectly correct. This make me happy. All the records online are there to help make you happy. Bill > > > ==== NCRUTHER Mailing List ==== > > Subscribing: Clicking on one of the shortcut links below should work, but if your browser doesn't understand them, try these manual instructions: to join NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word subscribe in the message subject and body. To join NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > Unsubscribing: To leave NCRUTHER-L, send mail to NCRUTHER-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word unsubscribe in the message subject and body. To leave NCRUTHER-D, do the same thing with NCRUTHER-D-request@rootsweb.com. > For questions about this list, contact the list administrator at NCRUTHER-admin@rootsweb.com > >

And you are doing an EXCELLENT job, Bill! I cannot tell you how much I personally appreciate all the time and hard work you have put into your research to make these records public. Anyone who disagrees or has a problem with anything you have posted should 'walk a mile in your shoes'. I commend you for your efforts! Jonnie in SC In a message dated 6/17/2004 9:14:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, wdfloyd@rfci.net writes: List Members, First off let me say, I have one of the very few completely free and also ad free genealogy websites on the web. For those not aquainted with it go to http://www.rfci.net/wdfloyd All the records that are found on the web has all had a considerable amount of time involved in getting them there and in many cases some expense. All of these records will have errors in them. As far as I know there was only one perfect person that ever walked the face of the earth. It is such an easy matter to make errors. I have seen census records where the name may have changed 4-6 times in a persons life time and had a different name on a marriage license and then even different on the tombstone. Just because it is spelled wrong or has the wrong middle initial does not mean that it is not that person that you believe it to be. It got you to this point so try to prove if it is the person you want it to be or not. Without that wrongly spelled name you would not be at this point. I find that people spend a lot of time trying to get names changed to what they think it should be. I am sure that most of them are exactly correct but I have had instants where some one totalled! disagreed with a cemetery record and wanted it changed to fit their needs and then when I rechecked the cemetery they were wrong. The records that are online are not there to try and mislead anyone. They are there to try and help people find their genealogy breakthroughs and even though they have errors that you want changed they have served their purpose. Every person that does genealogy should verify every thing to their own satisfaction. Many people are perfectly happy just having their line back to 1800 with no proof on anything. That makes me happy. Many people may want some kind of document proving beyond any doubt that their whole genealogy is perfectly correct. This make me happy. All the records online are there to help make you happy. Bill

List Members, First off let me say, I have one of the very few completely free and also ad free genealogy websites on the web. For those not aquainted with it go to http://www.rfci.net/wdfloyd All the records that are found on the web has all had a considerable amount of time involved in getting them there and in many cases some expense. All of these records will have errors in them. As far as I know there was only one perfect person that ever walked the face of the earth. It is such an easy matter to make errors. I have seen census records where the name may have changed 4-6 times in a persons life time and had a different name on a marriage license and then even different on the tombstone. Just because it is spelled wrong or has the wrong middle initial does not mean that it is not that person that you believe it to be. It got you to this point so try to prove if it is the person you want it to be or not. Without that wrongly spelled name you would not be at this point. I find that people spend a lot of time trying to get names changed to what they think it should be. I am sure that most of them are exactly correct but I have had instants where some one totalled! disagreed with a cemetery record and wanted it changed to fit their needs and then when I rechecked the cemetery they were wrong. The records that are online are not there to try and mislead anyone. They are there to try and help people find their genealogy breakthroughs and even though they have errors that you want changed they have served their purpose. Every person that does genealogy should verify every thing to their own satisfaction. Many people are perfectly happy just having their line back to 1800 with no proof on anything. That makes me happy. Many people may want some kind of document proving beyond any doubt that their whole genealogy is perfectly correct. This make me happy. All the records online are there to help make you happy. Bill

We've been asked to pass along this update. The next Moore County Heritage Book meeting will be Thursday, June 17th, 6:30 PM (new location) Golden Corral (Private Dining Room), 285 Turner St., Aberdeen (near Super Wal-Mart). Dinner at 6:30, meeting at 7:30 PM. All are invited to learn more about our exciting project! Meantime, click on http://www.nccountyheritage.com/mooreco.html to learn more about our new book! Thanks! _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

Hello! Just following up on the posts about Military storiesn for the Moore Co. Heritage book! What a fantastic opportunity! On the website we found a fascinating story about Civil War veteran Captain John Ritter: http://www.nccountyheritage.com/mooreco_samples.html This sample story of Captain John Ritter is a humorous, yet wonderful account of this notable man. We've got a bunch of Moore Co. Military Veterans we can submit. One picture in uniform, right? Can anyone tell me how many 100 word Military story submissions will be allowed per person? Also, when is the next meeting of the Moore Co. book committee? Thanks, R.P. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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Lynn, I feel pretty sure they are are related, let me look through my McEntire info and see what I find. I'll send it to the list and you also if you want me to when I find it, give me a day or so. Melanie

In a message dated 6/8/04 6:40:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Whitewolfe0510@aol.com writes: Yipes , I had the wrong name You are Sylvia! I did miss this posting. I know that Andrew Aaron McEntire in his will left Jacob Wolf and Nancy his The Original question I had asked was about another Jacob Wolfe on the 1800 Rutherford County Census as my Jacob Wolf married to Nancey McEntire Thompson as on their marriage Bond wouldn't have been old enough to be head of household and married with a child in 1800 being born approx 1798 on Tombstone but different dates from other people even having him born in 1786. Don't know how that much difference could be in one DOB on him. Have another Jacob Wolf married to Mary Polly Deadman ? daughter of Mark Dedmon, form his Rev War pension and Hannah Bailey of Rutherford County, or his sister named Mary Polly Deadman b approx 1759 in Patapsco, MD ? She supposed to have come with her parents Thomas Deadman ans Sarah Griffith, and Mark Dedmon to forks of Yadkin River, Old Rowan County, NC after their land was confiscated because they were Tories approx 1781. He died a short itme after they came to NC. On Mark Dedmon's Rev Pension, ( I have what it says but not copy of it) Jacob Wolf the first one married to Nancy McEntire Thompson, it has Jacob Wolf as his grandson. It also has a Mary Dedmon as dying in 1826( the second Jacob's Wife?) It couldn[t have been the daughter of Mark Dedmon and Hannah Baiely as he married John Proctor and she is found in household of one of her daughters Demony Proctor Singletery in Walker County GA . Will have to find it, not sure where in my info it is. The pension was approx 1839 after Mark Dedmon died, and Hannah Bailey Dedmon applied for it. So who is the Jacob Wolf on the 1800 census? Is he the Jacob that supposedly died in WVA approx 1796 husband of Mary Polly Deadman who was sister to Mark Dedmon or another Jacob Wolf that I don't know anything about? I just can't seem to get any more info past Jacob Wolfe and Nancy McEntire Thompson. Haven't found who the Thompson was that Nancy was married to before Jacob either. The marriage bond ha s her name as Nancey Thompson and Jacob Wolf, it threw me at first a few years ago till I found it was Nancy McEntire Thompson. If anyone can help I would sure appreciate it. I have a lot of info from Jacob and Nancy forward but not the Jacob Wolf who was Jacob's father. Thanks Malanie Oates Malone

In a message dated 6/6/04 4:46:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, evaden@comcast.net writes: I don't have any further info about Jacob Wolf, but Nancy McEntire Wolf was a sister to my ancestor, Mary McEntire Washburn. The parents of Nancy & Mary were Aaron/Alexander McEntire & Ellinder (?). Ellinder Wallace/Wallis married Abner G. McEntire, son of Aaron/Alexander in 1839 (see marriages of Rutherford Co.). At first, this was confusing to Yipes , I had the wrong name You are Sylvia! I did miss this posting. I know that Andrew Aaron McEntire in his will left Jacob Wolf and Nancy his daughter $200 . I don't have a copy of this will and would love to have a copy. In my info I had it was always Ellinder ? ,married to Andrew Aaron McEntire and so have not ever found the last name, just from others who had it as Wallis, so if anyone know her last name it would sure help. Wonder if there was an older sister named the same? Have found in the same families the same names being used over and over. I also have as Andrew Aaron's father Alexander McIntire, his wife as being Hannah Jannet McPhearson, do you have this also? Have also they are buried on McIntire Plantation in Rutherford County? Do you have any pics of the cemetery or if the house is still there? Thanks so much for writing to me, Melanie Oates Malone

George G. Morgan Workshop in Asheville, NC The North Carolina Genealogical Society and co-host Old Buncombe County Genealogical Society are sponsoring a one-day summer workshop entitled "Sharpen Your Genealogy Skills", George G. Morgan as speaker. The workshop will be held Saturday, July 10, 2004, in Simpson Lecture Hall, Asheville-Buncombe Technical College, 340 Victoria Road, Asheville, NC. Mr. Morgan will give four lectures: "Genealogy Orienteering: Using Maps to Find the RIGHT Place" "Bring 'Em Back to Life: Developing an Ancestor Profile" "Immigration and Naturalization Research" "Pursuing Your Genealogical Research on the Internet." George G. Morgan is President of Aha! Seminars, Inc. He has published a number of cover articles in the quarterly "Genealogical Computing." Morgan is a regular contributor to Ancestry Magazine and Southern Queries magazine. His popular weekly genealogy column, "Along Those Lines ", appears each Friday on the Ancestry.com web site and in the Ancestry Daily News. The workshop fee is $30 for North Carolina Genealogical Society and Old Buncombe County Genealogical Society members and $45 for non-members. Lunch, if desired, is an additional $9.75. There is an early bird discount of $5 for registrations received before July 1. Walk-ins will be welcome. However lunches and workshop packet may not be available. A packet with motel information and directions will be sent to registrants. For more information or to register, contact: NCGS Summer Workshop P.O. Box 22 Greenville, NC 27835-0022 Or visit the web site at http://www.ncgenealogy.org/ and click on Calendar on the left side of the page, then on Summer Workshop. The workshop flyer registration form is available as a link from the Summer Workshop page. North Carolina Genealogical Society membership information is also available on the above stated web site. For more information about Mr. Morgan, visit the web site at http://ahaseminars.com/atl/

I would love to share --                                                          His first sibling was Lorenzo N. McBrayer born 1838 -- he died from wounds received The Battle of Chancellorsville, VA on 2 Jun 1863. He was buried in Richmond, VA. but I don't know the location. He was married to Catherine King on 10 Jan 1856 in Rutherford County, NC.                                                                       **********************************************************************************The second was Victoria McBrayer born 1839. I don't have any other information on her. But, I would love to have some if any one has any?                                       ******************************************************************************* **Next, is Delia McBrayer abt 1840. She married Washington Wilkie on 25 Jan 1859 in Rutherford County, NC. She died 28 Mar 1878. They are both buried at the Shiloh Cemetery in Rutherford County.                                            *********************************************************************************Susanna McBrayer born 1842 died Jun 1921 in Rutherford County, NC. Buried at Tanner's Grove Methodist Cemetery, Rutherford Co., NC. Married Frank L. Daniel on 2 Jun 1872 in Rutherford County, NC                                            **********************************************************************************(Next is my Great-grandfather) Napoleon Bonaparte McBrayer born 15 Sep 1844. Died 5 Oct 1923 in Rutherford Hospital. He married Mary Elizabeth Sparks on 12 Sep 1865 in Rutherford County, NC. They are both buried at Kistler's Chapel, Rutherford County, NC. He had 1 child with Armetta Elizabeth Dobbins. And, married a second time after Mary died to Mary Davis. I don't have any thing else on Mary Davis but would love more information.                                                           **********************************************************************************Next, in line is Dr. John Harrill McBrayer.   (more information available)                                                            **********************************************************************************         Next is Amelia Jane McBrayer born 8 Jan 1851 in Rutherford County, NC -- died 25 Jan 1925 in Rutherford County. She married John Brisco Robbins on 10 Feb 1868 in Rutherford County. They are both buried at Holly Springs Bapt. Cemetery, Rutherfordton, N C.                                                  *********************************************************************************Next, Margaret Frances McBrayer born 1852 in Rutherford County, NC. Married John Winfried Roach on 28 Oct 1875 in Rutherford County. She died 10 Aug 1918 in Rutherford County. They are both buried at the Shiloh Baptist Cemetery in Rutherford County.                     *********************************************************************************We have started a group to work on the McBrayer's in this area and Cleveland County, NC. If anyone would like to join let me know.                                                              ********************************************************************************** I am also searching for more information about my Great-grandfather and Great-grand Aunts and Uncles. E-mail if you would like further information. I am also trying to find out where their parents James W. McBrayer and Susan Harrill McBrayer are buried? Thank you, Barbara Channell Researching -- Dyer's, Splawn's, Childers, Gibbs, McBrayer's, Allen's, Griffin's, Waldrop's, Channell's, Folsom's, Whisler's, Breed's and a whole lot more! - McBrayer, J. H. Dr. -- Dr. John Harrill McBrayer (my great-granduncle) John Harrill McBrayer, Dr. b. September 05, 1848 d. January 30, 1905 Cleveland Co. NC (Township 1) (Camp's Creek Baptist Cemetery) m. Ida Palmer b. July 30, 1861 d. December 12, 1944 Cleveland Co. NC (Township 1) (Camp's Creek Baptist Cemetery). John was s/o James W. McBrayer & Susannah Harrill. [Estate Records Cleveland Co. NC: McBrayer, J. H. (Dr.), 1905 (2 folders) Box No. C.R.026.508.37] Ida was 13 years younger than John. Was John married previously? Would you mind sharing names and dates of Dr. John's siblings? Jeff