This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/2316.4864.6113.6219.1 Message Board Post: There is a Charles E Tipsword b.1881 Effingham Ill. son of Jonathan Tipsword Permelia Force. May want to f/u to see if there is a connection. I hope this helps. Rose Walker