There seems to be some issues with the line Winkler line. that was presented. Record of Pennsylvania Marriages to 1810 ( Volume1 )2 Volumes (originally published as Volume VIII, Second Series, Pennsylvania Archives) Harrisburg Penn. 1880 Marriage Record of the Swede's Church (Gloria Dei.), Philadelphia 1750-1810. 1797 July 5, Winkler Ludwig and Catherine Dietz. There is another marriage: Ludwig Winkler who married Anna Christina Leutz. There are 2 Ludwig Winklers recorded in Pa LIST OF FOREIGNERS IMPORTED IN THE SHIP QUEEN OF DENMARK, GEO. PARISH. COMMANDER, FROM HAMBERG. LAST FROM COWES, ENGLAND QUALIFIED NOV. 3, 1752. L. Ludwig Winckler (this person makes a mark for a signature in the records) LIST OF FOREIGNERS IMPORTED IN THE SHIP EDINBURGH, JAMES RUSSEL, MASTER, FROM ROTTERDAM. QUALIFIED SEPT. 30, 1754. Ludwig Winckler (this person signs his name) Ludwig Winkler of Rowan County appears in the Rowan County records Deed Book 13 page 661 1 Dec 1773 Henry Eustace McCulloh Esq. to Lodwick Winkler, planter, for L75 proc, 152 A on Tates Branch of Swearing creek adj Tract # 25, and the manor tract, Quitrents were to be paid and some mineral rights were reserved. Wit: Stephen Jett, William Frohock. Thomas Frohock signed for McCulloh. Prvd by Lewis Beard at Aug court 1794 (21 years later) His presence in court and land reocrds seems to be constant until his death in April 1798. Since his will has a signature, I believe that he is the person from the ship Edinburgh. Pennslyvania German Pioneers, Strassburger, Ralph Beaver, Vol 1-2 Norristown Pa. Pennsylvania German Society 1934. Monday Sept 30 1754 at the Court House at Philadelphia. Lists 220 A,B,C Ludwig Winckler page 618 List 220 A Present; The Worshipful Charles Willing,Esquire, Mayor. The Foreignors whose names are underwritten, imported in the Ship Edinburgh, James Russel, Master, from Rotterdam and last from Cowes, did this day take the usual Qualifications. 5 Roman Catholocks. 1 Mennonist. 160 Qualified. Palatinate & Wirtemberg. List 220B page 616 Foreigners imported in the Ship Edinburgh, James Russel, Master, from Rotterdam, Qual. 30th Sept 1754 List 220C Sr. We have carefully examined the State of Health of the Mariners and Passengers on board the Ships Brother and Edinburgh, Capts. Muir & Russel and found no objection to their being admitted to land in the city immediately. to his Honor Tho. Graeme The Govenour Th. Bond Endorsed 30th sept 1754 Doctors Certificate relating to the ships Brothers and Edinburgh. So one is to believe that Ludwig went from North Carolina to Philadelphia to get married in 1797? There is also no mention of a wife in his will. Everyone else is mentioned. If Catherine was his wife, did she die before him? If Ludwig did marry Catherine, who was the mother of his children (1st wife?). Was Jakob really the father of the other Ludwig Winkler? Best Dwayne Meyer