This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/698.3868.1 Message Board Post: have a john and lucinda horsley howard having daughter lucinda born 1871 ky. also have in wadkins side thomas wadkins born 1870 son of sylvester and hetty tussey/fusee wadkins. do not know if either married just one of those matches. will gladly share info. hope this helps. could be same family for they are hard to do any research on. only just found info that sylvesters parents could be cecil and harriett spradlin/spradling wadkins.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Burge Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/797.1 Message Board Post: Actually if i am not mistaked what is now Stokes County was once part of Surry County not Rowan. I'm fairly sure about this, I am a currenty resident of Stokes County, my family traces back in Stokes County/ Surry County and some surrounding areas in Virginia, I think that we trace back to Alexander Burge, but i currently don't have access to that information, I know for a fact i am a decendant of Larkin Burge of Stokes County, I would suggest finding Marvin Burge on either this website, or geneology.com I found him very helpful, sincerely, Bradley Burge

It turns out that the URL for the IL Death Index is http://www.ilsos.net/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html Betty On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 20:48:39 EDT Guyrossjr@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 9/22/02 9:01:38 PM Atlantic Daylight Time, > NCROWAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > > http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/idphedeathindes.html > > > Bad e-mail address. Please check it out. Sounded interesting. > Roberta > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

In a message dated 9/22/02 9:01:38 PM Atlantic Daylight Time, NCROWAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/idphedeathindes.html > Bad e-mail address. Please check it out. Sounded interesting. Roberta

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/2757.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Key, We're on a 2-month trip to the East Coast and won't be able to answer your question until November! If I forget, please email me again and I'll look it up. Sorry, Sharyn Fuller

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/6969.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Larry, Sept. 22, 2002 Received your message, but don't think I am familiar with the Martha you referred to. Some of my family did come west by way of Indiana, but don't know any of those names. The one I am looking for, Michael Swaim, was from Rowan Co.N.C. and his son Herod Blake Swaim was my gr grandfather. Michael's first wife Anna Rosina Lanius died in 1817. He remarried sometime soon after as Blake was born in 1822, but I do not have any record of his mother's name, her parents, where she was from or anything. I am trying to find out some information about her to complete my family tree. I had heard her name was Mary Lane, but can't find any documentation. Also I had been told her name was Miriam Herod, but there again no documentation. I haven't even been able to find either name so don't know where Michael went after Anna's death. I don't have any record where he died either, but do know Blake came to Iowa and is buried near my childhood home Thanks for the reply and if I come across those names I will write you . Good luck as it is very frustrating to look for months and no results. Alice Swaim Shepard

Does anyone have Coleen Tomlin's e-mail address. She is a Deadman researcher in Rowan Co., NC. Betty Pace

Everyone had trouble with the first URL I posted for the MO & IL Death Index (1916-1950) from the Journal of the Rowan Co. Gen Soc. . I tried it myself and couldn't get the sit to open. Here's someone who had success: Betty, Thanks. The suggestion to use the URL http://www.ilsos.net/departments/archives/archives.html got me close. Then the URL for the IL Death Index is http://www.ilsos.net/departments/archives/idphdeathindex.html Thanks for posting it. I found a death date that I had been looking for and hadn't found. Lynn

There is a link from the Rowan Web Page, but it is broken (I notified M. Stewart). You can write to: Genealogical Society of Rowan P. O. Box 4305 Salisbury, NC 28145-4305 Dues are $15.00 a year. I would just put your enrollment request in a letter and send it along with a check. Normal entrollment/renewal is at the beginning of a calendar year, but when you enroll mid-year, you pay the same amount and they also send you the back issues for that year. I think it is a bargain. I discover little things here and there that I could never uncover on my own. Betty Pace On Sun, 22 Sep 2002 08:28:57 -0400 "C Slack" <SlackC@msn.com> writes: > Betty, > I am glad you posted the journal info and thank you. I was going to > email you today and ask you about getting a subscription to the > Rowan Journal. Could you send me the address to subscribe I will go > ahead and write for a subscription or an email address and I will > email them. > > > > Thank you again, > > Carina Gilson Slack > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Betty A. Pace > Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 6:21 AM > To: NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NCRowan] MO and IL researchers > > The Illinois State Archives now has a statewide database of IL > death > certificates for the period 1916-1950, and it is searchable. Free. > Over > 3 million names. > > http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/idphedeathindes.html > > This notice was in the Journal of the Rowan Co.NC Genealogy Society > recently. It is this and other little tidbits that make membership > in > the society well worth the small annual fee . In addition, the > Journal > always contains articles that are interesting and often tucked away > in > someone else's research are clues to my own family. Support your > NC > genealogy societies and join. (They didn't ask me to post this, but > I > have been thinking it for a long time). Membership only costs > $15-20 > annually and the Journals are well worth that. I live too far away > to > attend meetings but stay in touch through the Journals. > > Betty Pace > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/0VB.2ACI/2316.4864.6113.6219.1 Message Board Post: There is a Charles E Tipsword b.1881 Effingham Ill. son of Jonathan Tipsword Permelia Force. May want to f/u to see if there is a connection. I hope this helps. Rose Walker

Betty, I am glad you posted the journal info and thank you. I was going to email you today and ask you about getting a subscription to the Rowan Journal. Could you send me the address to subscribe I will go ahead and write for a subscription or an email address and I will email them. Thank you again, Carina Gilson Slack ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty A. Pace Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 6:21 AM To: NCROWAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCRowan] MO and IL researchers The Illinois State Archives now has a statewide database of IL death certificates for the period 1916-1950, and it is searchable. Free. Over 3 million names. http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/idphedeathindes.html This notice was in the Journal of the Rowan Co.NC Genealogy Society recently. It is this and other little tidbits that make membership in the society well worth the small annual fee . In addition, the Journal always contains articles that are interesting and often tucked away in someone else's research are clues to my own family. Support your NC genealogy societies and join. (They didn't ask me to post this, but I have been thinking it for a long time). Membership only costs $15-20 annually and the Journals are well worth that. I live too far away to attend meetings but stay in touch through the Journals. Betty Pace ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stanley, Veach Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/6974 Message Board Post: I am looking for more information on my ggg-grandparents, Jehu Stanley (sometimes appears as Jahue) and Elizabeth Veach. Jehu (b 5-12-1815) married Elizabeth (b 12-31-1817) in Rowan County on 6-18-183?. The exact year is not known. I would appreciate talking with anyone who has information on this family.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0VB.2ACI/6969.1 Message Board Post: Alice, I ran across your message while looking for something else and thought there were too many coincidences for me to ignore your posting. In your Swaim family tree do you have a Martha (Swaim) with children John and Eva? I do not know Martha's maiden name nor her Swaim husband's name. Martha later married my great grandfather, Joseph Luther Sapp, on October 1, 1924. They lived near Summitville, Madison County, Indiana. Thanks, Larry

The Illinois State Archives now has a statewide database of IL death certificates for the period 1916-1950, and it is searchable. Free. Over 3 million names. http://www.sos.state.il.us/departments/archives/idphedeathindes.html This notice was in the Journal of the Rowan Co.NC Genealogy Society recently. It is this and other little tidbits that make membership in the society well worth the small annual fee . In addition, the Journal always contains articles that are interesting and often tucked away in someone else's research are clues to my own family. Support your NC genealogy societies and join. (They didn't ask me to post this, but I have been thinking it for a long time). Membership only costs $15-20 annually and the Journals are well worth that. I live too far away to attend meetings but stay in touch through the Journals. Betty Pace

I think this is the situation all over the South. The storehouse in Salisbury had supplies for the soldiers but I understand the poor of Salisbury were in a bad way. My Pace family there were just simple people as Abner was a saddle/harness maker and the only son was away with Lee in Virginia. I have often wondered how they fared during the period of the Civil War--soldiers themselves only received about $11-12 a month (if they got paid at all). I know that Union Gen. Stoneman raided Salisbury in late April 1865 and burned the supplies stored there. It must have destroyed the post-war economy in Salisbury and other parts of NC. Betty Pace On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:18:54 -0700 "Jim Franklin" <jimfranklin@gci-net.com> writes: > I just finished reading "Decision in the West, The Atlanta Campaign > of 1864," by Albert Castel. Page 22 > "The only things in abundant supply are tobacco and paper money. > The Confederate government has printed $1.2 billion of the latter. > Since it cannot be back the dollars with gold and silver, it can > only promise to redeem them when the war and independence are won. > In January 1863 a gold dollar had equaled three Confederate paper > dollars, now after a year of defeats, it is worth twenty of them. > Soaring prices are the inevitable consequence. Residents in > Richmond pay $200 for a barrel of flour, $20 for a bushel of corn, > and three dollars for a pound of bacon-that is if they can afford > it. "How the poor live,"muses a government official, " is > inconceivable." > > Jim > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from RowanRoots-L send a message from the address you > subscribed from to RowanRoots-L-Request@Rootsweb.com with the word > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

Thought this might be interesting to some folks....~malinda Albion's Seed Grows in the Cumberland Gap http://xroads.virginia.edu/~UG97/albion/albion3.html

Go to this link to find out how to retreive a record from the NC archives. http//www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/archives/arch/Mail.htm They will do a search by the name of the person and the county they resided. These records are a copy of the actual roster, which is on a piece of legal sized paper with many names and will list the county or military district. Many times I have found future -in -laws and relatives on these lists with the primary person I was researching. The service is worth the $20.00 price (out of state). You can also do a RECORD REQUEST from the DAR or SAR for the name of your ancestor. The fee is $5.00 and will be a copy of an application to the ancestor. Go to www.SAR.org or www.DAR.org, there are instructions and forms, addresses, etc to request a RECORD copy. The advantage of this, is the listing of the names of all of the generations on the application, some of whom might be related to you. This application will also cite a source or sources for prooving service in the Revolutionary war. Good luck Dwayne Meyer

Finally an answer on JOHN JULIAN (D.1886). It turns out he is the brother of my WILLIAM JULIAN and son of DAVID JULIAN and wife ELIZABETH MERRILL (granddaughter of Capt. Benj. Merrill,hanged as a Regulator in 1771).. Betty Pace --------- Forwarded message ---------- Dear Betty, This is in reply to your note of 9/17 regarding the John Julian who died 4/12/1886. This one I know about. He must have a thousand descendants -- all living in the Salisbury area. John was the 3rd child of our David Julian and Elizabeth Merrill and brother to our William. Born in 1800, he married Abigail SHINN. They could not afford a TV so they had 11 or more children including Betsy, William, Mary E., Matilda, Clementine, Caroline, Benjamin, James T., George Washington, and Isaac Ross Julian. Because so many of these names are in other Julian lines, including ours, and are about the same dates, there has been confusion through the years as to what line they were from. I won't even try and list the married names of the girls or their descendants. <snip> From: "Betty A. Pace" <bapace2@juno.com> To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:05:20 +0000 Subject: [RowanRoots] JOHN JULIAN 1800-1886 Message-ID: <20020917.180522.-135221.17.bapace2@juno.com> The most recent issue of the Rowan Co. Genealogical Society Journal (Vol. 16, #3, 2002) contains the obituary from the Carolina Watchman on April 15, 1886 of a JOHN JULIAN (1800-1886). I am not sure who he is but he must be a part of my Julian family somehow. "Death of JOHN JULIAN - Another old and valued citizen of this county passed through the iron gate Monday morning last. Mr Julian was born in April 1800; and was therefore eighty-six years old. He was well known in this county and also in Iredell, where he lived many years. He resided in this vicinity the last forty years of his life. He was a farmer and retained considerable strength up to the time of his last illness; and having been accustomed to active out-door labors all his life, was frequently seen in town, mixing with people, and taking active interest in the subjects engaging popular concern. Respected by all who knew him, reverenced by his children and grandchildren, the memory of John Julian will linger for many years in honor of him whose life was one continued scene of duties well-performed."

The latest issue of the Journal of the Rowan Gen. Society published a paper from the Carolina Watchman 18 May 1863. This article said that the Rowan Co. commissioners had agreed to pay in money or provisions to soldiers' indigent wives and mothers and widows, these monthly allowances. $2.00 a month for herself $1.00 a month for each child under 10 years of age I wonder how well these families would dine on these sums. The Commissioner appealed to the citizens of Rowan with spare provisions to sell such at a reasonable price and not sell to speculators. I wonder if this is what brought on the riot in Salisbury when the women attacked stores with hatchets because they believed that the shop owners were charging exorbitant prices an withholding food from their families. Does anyone remember the year of the ladies' attack on the markets? I would wager that most NC counties had a similar procedure for helping the indigent, if they could prove they were indigent. Betty Pace

If the name of a person from NC, whom you have family writings about being in the war, yet his name is not on the internet, in the rosters that are listed, Do you know how you could find it? Did any of the enlistment records give father, or county they enlisted from? Are there even any records? DA R lists a name and birthday for this same name.. I would like to prove it is the right one, but have nothing else to go on. Thanks for any help.